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Obama tells nation: 'We are not quitters'

Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:05 AM EST
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David Espo, AP Special Correspondent
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<p>President Barack Obama gestures after his address to a joint session of Congress in the House Chamber of the Capitol in Washington, Tuesday, Feb. 24, 2009. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)</p>

President Barack Obama gestures after his address to a joint session of Congress in the House Chamber of the Capitol in Washington, Tuesday, Feb. 24, 2009. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

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WASHINGTON — To a nation reeling from recession and facing long-festering problems, President Barack Obama has a simple reminder: "We are not quitters."

Whatever the problems, the new president promised in the first prime-time speech of his term, "We will rebuild, we will recover and the United States of America will emerge stronger than before."

Standing before a joint session of Congress on Tuesday night, Obama optimistically sketched an agenda that began with jobs, then broadened quickly to include a stable credit system, better schools, health care reform, reliable domestic sources of energy and an end to the war in Iraq. Specifics will follow, he said, although he conceded more billions may be necessary to stabilize the banking system.

The president drew loud cheers as he made his way down the center aisle, again when he stood, alone, at the podium to speak, and several more times in an address delivered in a hall packed with lawmakers, members of his administration, Supreme Court justices and diplomats.

Humorous and poignant moments took their turns on a night when virtually the entire government gathered under one heavily secured roof.

As when Obama explained his decision to have Vice President Joe Biden oversee implementation of his stimulus plan by saying, "Nobody messes with Joe."

Or when he urged lawmakers to pass education legislation named in part for Massachusetts' Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, battling brain cancer. The 77-year-old lawmaker "has never stopped asking what he can do for his country," Obama said, rephrasing an enduring line from President John F. Kennedy's 1960 inaugural address.

Biden followed up Wednesday morning by serving notice that the administration would be poised to take back unused stimulus money if governors refused to spend it.

Another option, he spelled out on ABC's "Good Morning America," would be to "use the television and the radio and the media to embarrass them for not doing what they're supposed to do."

Biden said the money "cannot be squandered" and warned that states will be held accountable for what they do with the money.

Little more than one month into the president's term, Obama's speech followed congressional passage of an $787 billion stimulus bill, coincided with pending proposals to stem an epidemic of mortgage foreclosures and served as prelude to a budget Obama pledged will cut projected deficits in half by the end of his term.

The new president submits his tax and spending plans to Congress on Thursday.

With solid Democratic majorities in both houses, Obama can count on a reliable base of support as he pushes his agenda. But his drive for bipartisanship depends in part on his standing in the polls — strong so far — and his speech was aimed at lawmakers as well as the viewing public.

"What is required now is for this country to pull together, confront boldly the challenges we face, and take responsibility for our future once more," he said.

Republicans said they were ready to work with Obama and his Democratic allies in Congress — up to a point.

"Where we agree, Republicans must be the president's strongest partners. And where we disagree, Republicans have a responsibility to be candid and offer better ideas for a path forward," said Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, tapped by party leaders to deliver the GOP response.

Jindal, the first Indian-American governor in history, also took the opportunity to pledge to voters his party would try to regain their trust after an election in which Democrats not only won, elevating the first African-American to the White House, but strengthened their majorities in Congress.

"We will do so by standing up for the principles that we share," he said.

The president seemed to do a little political positioning of his own.

He said the recently passed stimulus legislation was designed to "put people back to work and put money in their pockets. Not because I believe in bigger government — I don't." And despite what his critics claim, he said, no family with an income of less than $250,000 would face higher taxes because of his plan.

While Obama's speech was short on specifics, his remarks hinted at legislative battles ahead with Democrats as well as Republicans in Congress.

He said he had already identified $2 trillion in savings to be achieved over the next decade, adding: "We will end education programs that don't work and end direct payments to large agribusinesses that don't need them. We'll eliminate no-bid contracts that have wasted billions in Iraq."

He also pledged to "root out the waste, fraud and abuse in our Medicare program that doesn't make our seniors any healthier," an apparent reference to the subsidies the government pays to private insurance companies offering an alternative to traditional Medicare under a program long nourished by Republicans.

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Elmo Blatch

My favourite line:

Dropping out of high school is no longer an option. It's not just quitting on yourself, it's quitting on your country--and this country needs and values the talents of every American.

Who would have thought that a SOTU speech could pass as great pep talk?

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:34 AM EST
dcstone01

It was an all around good speech...just the right balance of straightforward clarity and hope...

Yes, I liked that line too about school...to me he ranks that up there as a national security issue...without an educated population, there is no hope to compete with other countries economically, and technically in the future.

I liked how he said, roughly paraphrased..."this is the nation that invented solar panel industry and now they're made overseas, we invented car manufacturing, now they are made overseas, we invented renewable energy cars, the batteries are made...overseas...we need manufacturing here..." (This also ties in with an educated population too.)

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:48 AM EST
Christian Areas

Elmo, I loved that line. It's about time someone said it like it is. We can't coddle our youth any longer, and expect them to grow up and be real men and women.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:15 AM EST
clara-749599

OBama needs to stick with NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND. THE GETTO IS FULL OF LEFT BEHIND KIDS WITH NO DIRECTION.

Demand Child Protective look after the getto kids that have parents in jail, who are fending for themselves, trust me, there are lot's of kids in that category. A good place to start, who is missing from school.

These are the kids that are truly at risk. Fix this problem and the nation will shape up. THINK ABOUT IT, THESE ARE THE MAJORITY OF DROP OUTS.

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:38 AM EST
JEN-357892

I thought it was a smart move to have this non-state of adress! Instead of talking to individual groups, he rounded up the politcal gangs, the media and the public and let it rip. He reiterated his positions and as it was not an official adress, he did not have to discuss the dire side of our economy. He countered the issues the GOP has stormed MSM with and corrected the lies (Of course this only effected those of us who can accept different sides). He allowed the opposition to show just how sour they are to a very positive message. We the public got to see who stands where and we the people made the judgement call as to what it means.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:47 AM EST
not over it

NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND

Obama needs to focus on education to be sure but No Child Left Behind is another Bush failure and needs to be dumped or completely revamped. Instead of No Child Left Behind it should be called Every Child Left Behind.

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:07 PM EST
Christian Areas

If they do fix the policy, they should definitely rename it. Maybe something having to do with investment and future. The investment part is crucial, something Bush's policy left behind.

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:12 PM EST
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Rixar13

Insanity is continuing the same policy's, and expecting different results. After 8 years of predictable failures with tax cuts a new sheriff is in town. Pragmatic and common sense trumps ideology of past nonsense and goals of reality based solutions to true problems faced by all Americans has evolved. Health Care reform will be front and center with reduction of dependence on foreign oil and calling all Americans to invest in Education of our youth are top priority's so masterfully communicated to all Americans last night.

What is required now is for this country to pull together, confront boldly the challenges we face, and take responsibility for our future once more," he said.

Republicans said they were ready to work with Obama and his Democratic allies in Congress — up to a point.

My 23 year old son kept calling me and interrupting the speech. He said dad, "I'm so glad I voted for President Obama". Now that I think about it, it might be the first time he ever listened to me....?

  • 7 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:51 AM EST
conservativewarmonger

I loved the speech too! I was laughing the whole time.

I love how Obama was sugar coating the whole lie. You have spend money to save money was what I basically got out of the whole speech, or we'll spend money now and cut taxes and government later. How offensive it was to hear people comparing Obama to some of our greatest presidents and the guy hasn't even been in office for much more then 30 days. Obama is going to cause a lot of grief and heartache in this world and I hope you libs and moderates that voted for this coke head, suffer the consequences.

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:33 AM EST
Kate-546578

But he does have a good speech writer. Timing and empty buzzword/phrases to bring the sheeple to their feet.

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:39 AM EST
janice-376027

I suspect for Kate and conservativewarmonger that President Obama could say it was a beautiful day and they would say he's a liar and oh yeah a coke-head. Both statements patently ignorant on their face.

I am a proud lib (libtard, femi-nazi, tree-hugger oh and my personal favorite suffering from a mental disorder). He laid out specifics of his new budget and his goals - if you disagree from an ideological perspective, fine - I disagreed with Shrub on almost every single initiative, tax cut, environmental rule, war, etc for 8 years and I get it.

However, if you are going to have this philosophical difference, try to frame it with at least a modicum of intelligence. Kate talks about buzz words and sheeple - she is really talking about the GOP - Guns/God/Gays and Drill Baby Drill and Tax Cuts (but not for the working people only for the top - they create jobs don't you know).

  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:35 AM EST
Kate-546578

Janice, I am a registered Democrat and have been since 1976. That does not mean I must suspend intelligent thought. I did not vote for Bush and I did not vote for Obama.

What you see bleeding through is frustration that this country/society has been so programmed by reality TV, news programs that no longer report the news, the cult of celebrity, motovational speakeing being confused with executive experience, the culture of entitlement, the demise of work ethic and the spectator sport mentality that has lead to where we are today.

Do remember, Janice, that in every jest there is a bit of truth, particularly in the last phrase of your post.

  • 2 votes
#3.3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:08 AM EST
Peter-911179

I have misgivings too, but this is a president that presents his ideas clearly and acts. Action may lead to some errors but it will eventually arrive at good result.

I like the president to have wide support and believe that this one is trying to do his best for the USA.

  • 3 votes
#3.4 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:56 AM EST
not over it

You have spend money to save money was what I basically got out of the whole speech

You must not have listened to the same speech I listened to. He was saying the we have to invest money to create money. "You have to spend money to make money" is what it is commonly referred to in the business community and it is true. Creation of new jobs and new enterprise costs money and it is absolutely necessary right now.

The free enterprise system is broken. Banks aren't lending money to the business's that would normally identify a market and then expand on it. Obama is merely trying to get the ball rolling, create new avenues of business and then the free enterprise will jump back into the game and take over.

I thought he communicated that message quite clearly.

  • 3 votes
#3.5 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:31 AM EST
clara-749599

This clown talks out of both sides of his mouth. We sacrifice, he throws a $60 million dollar innauguration party.

I'd like to take back my vote.

  • 2 votes
#3.6 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:42 AM EST
conservativewarmonger

Cara/Kate,

I agree with you two 100 percent.

It's funny how libs tend to lump Bush in with the Conservative types and the real republicans. What they are forgetting is that Bush and the republicans of today act more like liberal democrats. There is no question that Bush was a fiscal democrat and somewhat a liberal when it came to certain social issues, such as illegal immigration.

Bush was a conservative when it came to abortion and traditional marriage. We can't keep blaming Bush for every little thing that went wrong with the past administration. Those who blame Bush for everything obviously don't understand how our government works; otherwise they would be blaming the democratic congress for most of our economic issues start started about two years prior. Keep in mind that our current Congress has an even lower approval rating then Bush.

  • 1 vote
#3.7 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:23 PM EST
conservativewarmonger

Not over it,

I just don't see how 865 billion dollars, and chances another 400 billion will go through, is going to fix the economy. You have to look at the money and how the government is designed. Forget about the sugar coated speeches and all of the promises. It's like going to your parents and asking to borrow money that they don't have at their disposal. Somewhere down the line we are going to have to pay every bit of this back because the government is not a bank or an employer to the people. The government is essentially a borrower that is designed to repay it's debt to the American people.

Doesn't it make logical sense to borrow as little money as possible from the people so that way more money can be at the disposal of the American people? In better terms, make government as little as possible and keep as much money as possible in the American people's pockets.

What Obama is doing has been tried several times throughout history and every time it has failed.

  • 1 vote
#3.8 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:34 PM EST
not over it

I can understand your philosophy but the problem we are having today is that every single industry in America is in "Park". Nothing is moving. The free market is stuck in the mud and needs pulled out. That is why I believe that the government has no choice but to step in and pull the free market out of the mud. The longer everything stands still everything gets worse. There are more layoffs, more business failing, more unemployment, more welfare, more food stamps, etc. That is not going to fix this mess.

These are the 2 main reasons I am in favor of the bail out.

1. Banks are not loaning money to business, which I think is the worst problem we have.

Let's pretend I'm a small business noticing a demand for wind energy. I cannot go get a start up loan from any bank right now to get started. The jobs I would have created are not there. That is only one example. No expansion=no new jobs. The worst part is that many of the already existing business are being put out of business because of the banks. They have no working capital.

2. Too many people are out of work. We are paying the money out anyway in the form of more unemployment benefits, welfare, medicaid, food stamps, housing assistance. Wouldn't it be better to pay money to get these people back to work so they can help pay back into the system? You act like we cut our expenses down when in reality they are going to go up either way we go.

I prefer to pro-actively create new enterprises, new jobs and try to save as many as possible.

  • 2 votes
#3.9 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:45 PM EST
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Tomas Sivan

If Words were Birds he'd be covered in White.... Same OL sh**t ... I thought that Ol. Slick could never be matched for " Tell them what they want to hear but do the opposite " but I was wrong...This joker had him beat by a mile. And that cheerleading section was the best ever. From seeing those 2 old coots pushing the people aside at the beginning, and standing there till they all got in line, to the first and last hollow cheer, it was as staged as the Easter show at Radio City. They reminded me of an FL team waiting to come out of the tunnel.... He's still campaigning. They told him to come out selling hope and hooray for us and out he came. Talk is cheap . He played to the Crowds wants , not to what is possible.... He's fond of using the expression " Putting lipstick on a pig" well he ran out of cosmetics altogether last night... If all you socialists can get the stars out of your eyes long enough, take a look at the increase in spending that is planned... " The Earmarks " another word for payback and corruption... Yup the Republicans threw money away like there was no tomorrow, from the war to New Orleans, but since this innauguration we've spent our granchildren's lives and promised more.... If you think he despicable buyouts and sweetheart deals up till now are an abomination, just wait. Get past the rah rah and party lines America, because you're headed to the breadline... Just do the arithmetic... Just look at the debt and the money we owe China.... Tell me where's it all coming from.... He's expanding Government more than ever ... 65 times, they say , he was interrupted by applause... Well if this is your bag, get a book with all the great speakers and speeches of the past , but look at the package for the truth.... Your in the hole and this guy and smiling Nancy won't get you out... Telling us that Biden will keep watch and how tough he is, must have been the comic relief for the night.... Biden is almost as laughable as he and Nancy are. He got off Bush and doom and gloom for one night. He's well schooled... Of course we all knew that. But talk will get us nowhere and when the bills come due, the landlord won't listen to talk , and he'll want his money..... And he's wrong as usual. Unless he was talking about Germany and not the USA, Benz invented the Automobile....I guess he thought Ford did... Another case of no one correcting him and people believing everything he says.... He stinks America, and be careful you don't end up part of the smell,,, I didn't think Pelosi could get up and down so many times , at her age..... Boy , can these robots be programmed , or what.... Get wise America, all talk and no substance......

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:34 AM EST
PANeal

Oh my. You sounded very angry and very afraid this morning. I hope you are feeling better by now.

As I recall, I was cheering G. Bush for his first speech, before he let Cheney lead us into utter disaster. I wish you could give B. Obama the same chance we gave previous presidents at the beginning of their terms.

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:52 PM EST
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Michele-263704

I am 47 yrs old and I kept calling my Mother to tell her how proud I was, that I voted for this man.

I only hope the Republicans get over themselves, their party, and finally realize we need unity and we need help NOW.

If they continue to to play their political games we are doomed.

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:36 AM EST
BB-375952

only hope the Republicans get over themselves, their party, and finally realize we need unity and we need help NOW.

If they continue to to play their political games we are doomed.

OBAMA is the one playing a political game along with the BIG cheerleader Nancy Pelosi. He is filling Americans with a bunch of "crap" and it amazes me how many people think that his spending all this money and he is still GREAT.

While you are telling your mother how glad that you are that you voted for this man, be sure to tell your children and nieces and nephews and their children that same story when they are paying for what this man has put together in the Stimulus Package.

I remember using the tale when I would go shopping, I did spend this amount of money, but look how much I saved. That is basically what Obama is saying, you have to spend money and it will save you in the end. HUH?

  • 4 votes
#5.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:12 AM EST
lilanomie

Are you even familiar with the history of spending in this country, and how much of the quality of life that you are experiencing at this very moment has to do with money the government has spent?

  • 3 votes
#5.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:28 PM EST
BB-375952

Are you even familiar with the history of spending in this country

Yes, I am.....Do you realize how much the President has spent and he has been in office 30 days plus Now he has another Bill coming up......how can a broke country keep spending. I realize he is a Man who loves to spend money, thinks nothing of hopping on AF ONE and jet setting across the Country, for really no reason, he is taking the Country for a ride and we are not on AF ONE.

  • 2 votes
#5.3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:54 PM EST
lilanomie

Interesting how you stopped quoting me right before "and how much of the quality of life that you are experiencing at this very moment has to do with money the government has spent?".

  • 2 votes
#5.4 - Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:45 PM EST
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aoimiyazaki

"We are not quitters!" - I like that. You have to admit, President Obama will make a good salesman if he ever left his post.

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:44 AM EST
Kate-546578

He already is a good salesman - snake oil.

  • 4 votes
#6.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:42 AM EST
clara-749599

He is really good at talking out of both sides of his mouth though. He is good at wasting money too.

$60 million for an innauguration party, HE NEEDS TO TIGHTEN HIS BELT.

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:48 AM EST
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jason m-909016

again what abotu the little man the people who are losing every thing while the bankers live high on the hog

  • 1 vote
Reply#7 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:56 AM EST
Kate-546578

What about envy being one of the seven deadly sins.

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:10 AM EST
Lara-911313

did you forget about the other six? Greed is right up there with envy.

  • 1 vote
#7.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:04 AM EST
Kate-546578

No, Lara, I haven't forgotten greed. The original comment by jason is becoming too typical to be allowed to pass unremarked.

  • 2 votes
#7.3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:20 AM EST
Lara-911313

Well Kate, maybe if greed wasn't like a virus swallowing this country in an epidemic, then maybe the nation's CEO's would not have screwed their employees out of jobs and retirement funds, and maybe they wouldn't need the government to bail them out so that THEY can keep THEIR jobs. And maybe people wouldn't be spending way beyond their means, buying McMansions and ridiculously huge cars to fit some kind of distorted version of "the American Dream," and they might not have gotten duped into adjustable rate mortgages and loans that they now are unable to pay back. And maybe if all that were true, then we wouldn't even be in this mess, and people would stop making those "typical" comments.

But, here we are. And unfortunately, your comments are the kind that are too ignorant to "be allowed to pass unremarked."

  • 1 vote
#7.4 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:53 AM EST
Kate-546578

Your diatribe validates my observation.

  • 1 vote
#7.5 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:28 AM EST
Lara-911313

Haha, and your comments that continue to make absolutely no sense validates mine.

  • 1 vote
#7.6 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:55 PM EST
jason m-909016

all this talk about sin is all i see but yet there are familys being forced out on to ther street just because the big ceo's out sourcing to other countrys and all that and all you worry about is sin i can see why the country is about to fold

  • 1 vote
#7.7 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:38 PM EST
Lara-911313

Uhm, dude, I was agreeing with you, and defending your statement. Who keeps talking about sin?

  • 1 vote
#7.8 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:45 PM EST
jason m-909016

sorry look up there is a guy saying that i was sinning because of the fact i want the prez to look at the little man not the big banks the kids who are going with out and the familys that are living on the street

  • 1 vote
#7.9 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:43 PM EST
lilanomie

Oh, brother, donkey ridder

You sound like just as much of a clueless d-bag as you think "the other side" does. Replace Obama, Pelosi & Reid with, say, Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld, and we're back in time.

Ideological hacks really irritate me. Not just because they're simply irritating, but because THEY are what's destroying this country.

  • 3 votes
#7.10 - Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:47 PM EST
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DonkeyRidder

He's right, we're not quitters. But a slim majority, like Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, are perpetual abusers of their fellow citizens using the government, abusers by proxy. A slim majority are cheaters, like Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, perfectly willing to break the rules or change them in the middle of the game to enrich themselves at their own children's and grandchildren's expense and labors.

No, there are many Americans, like Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, who will never quit trying to take what their neighbors have, Americans, like Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, who never quit undermining freedom and liberty, and Americans, like Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, who never quit aggrandizing themselves through words while killing and maiming America with their actions.

The Obama ideas are failed ideas from generations ago. Those ideas have bankrupted California and Illinois. Obama is telling us poop doesn't really stink and it tastes good, just try it (again). It is time for Obama, Pelosi, and Reid to quit.

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:59 AM EST
Mariaud

It seemed to me that the reason Obama got so many standing ovations is, whenever he made a point, the two people behind him stood up - and the audience simply followed!!

My father's favourite saying of politicians was: "I'll turn all your uphills into downhills, and all your downhills I've leave as they are ......." - in other words, I'll do **** all!!!!

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:45 AM EST
asadullahkhan

"we are not quitters" shows his determination.indian-american.african-american and the immigrants sitting together was amusing.will not bank bailout expenditure lead to inflation?

    Reply#10 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:57 AM EST
    Patricia Baker

    This is the first President that really want to talks to us, work with us. We need the small business, middles class business to pump us all back up. We can do it all if we make this unity call. Now that CEO's have ripped us off & the Auto Industry is on welfare with our money.we all must swim in this soup with Pt Obama. He asked for us to pray for him, too. We have to start somewhere.

    I liked his speech. Hope he continues with this transparency. I hope they remind Mr. Cox to investigate his SEC & check out line by line each item not needed. He needs to even check those GOLDEN FLEECE AWARDS, too. There is $$ hiding somewhere. I hope he calls them all out. They want the money but won't work at it. He's truly trying to Protect us.

    The Republicans are a bunch of whiners, & allowed their President to waste millions of dollars in the Middle East, said nothing; blinding us for 8 years. Now they have a Black, Mr. Steele up front. As a Black woman, I say why didn't they do this in the first place? A bunch of old fogies.

    And Palin stating that Obama is nothing but a community activist? Our President is community spirited all over America! What more do you want from this President? We didn't get it from Bush: Just a Pandoras box of mess we inherited. Now let us get to work! We need to stop belly aching like the Republicans & get to work!!

    • 2 votes
    Reply#11 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:09 AM EST
    antoniojvr

    The Republicans are a bunch of whiners, & allowed their President to waste millions of dollars

    Obama has spent over 1 TRILLION dollars in his forst month. Who is leaving their leaders unchecked?

    • 4 votes
    #11.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:31 AM EST
    clara-749599

    Before the election, he was all talk, he was going to fix things up, HE WAS THEM MAN. Now, he needs our prayers to do it. OK, he got them, so when does the fixng start. How much more money does he need to spend?

    IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY PROMISES HE KEEPS. His talk is good, but he can't do the walk.

    I would have preferred Hillary. She is MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT .

    • 4 votes
    #11.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:59 AM EST
    c anderson

    I don't know if she's more intelligent. Maybe she's just much more practical with a whole lot more experience.

    • 3 votes
    #11.3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:00 PM EST
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    Matt-snyderny

    We had to hear such hate and poison coming from peoples mouth over the last eight years. I can understand peoples views and convictions and can respect the passion.

    What I don't get, and never will, is how the same people who felt it was important to tell everyone they came in contact with how they think, no matter what side of the aisle, thanks for the free info by the way, are the same people who have ZERO tolerance for someone with another point of view. So if you disagree with a presidents angle or approach you are automatically wrong? hmm. Guess free speech is accepted only if the words are in accordance with your personal ideals.

    I never trust any politician, no matter what party. GO SABRES!!!!

    • 2 votes
    Reply#12 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:43 AM EST
    lilanomie

    I dont' think I'd trust the Sabres, either, I'm sorry to say.

    • 2 votes
    #12.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:26 PM EST
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    dill-911562

    Give Obama's plan a chance to either work or not work.If it doesn't work,he'll be voted out of office in 2012,that simple.As for the Republicans,who would be getting these "tax cuts" their so hyped up about.Let's see,if I'm unemployed,a tax cut doesn't do me squat!For the rich,they create jobs,riiight.That money goes to an offshore bank account,collecting US tax free interest.Big Gov't:for the poor its pork,for defense contractors,hhmmmm!Thats the ticket!

    • 2 votes
    Reply#13 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:45 AM EST
    Wildcard-781265

    Your right, he will be voted out and the country will be in more trouble than ever because of Obama’s “print money as you will” attitude.

    This is the man who is asking us to tighten our belts, bite the bullet, and push on, well, how about him and congress doing the same.

    The man is a well educated and experienced speaker, he has the ability to say what everyone wants to hear, and he uses it very well.

    There is a simple fact here, with what we owed, plus what he added and wants to add to our national debt, this country will never pay it off.

    What’s funny is that he has never said one word about what it is going to take to COVER his “Spending Bill” costs that is what you and I have to pay, not him, not congress.

    Obama seems to think, “all we need to do is print more money and everything will be great again”

    The fact is just printing money is not going to help anything, ((we do not have the reserves to cover the it))

    What he has printed and is passing out is worthless, and the sad part is what you and I pay in taxes is worthless.

    That’s why “precocious Metals and gems” are called “reserves” to cover what is printed, because the printed money is worthless unless it has a valued reserve.

    Now what all this above means is “Obama Further Bankrupted America”

    • 3 votes
    #13.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:07 PM EST
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    Kate-546578

    ............and the DOW is diving yet again...........................

    • 1 vote
    Reply#14 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:49 AM EST
    antoniojvr

    Maybe Hope-n-Change can save us!

    His speech was influential, but a whole lotta nothing. Buy gold and save those little green papers in your wallet... they will soon become antiques.

    • 1 vote
    #14.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:32 AM EST
    Redneckstray

    Janice, I am a registered Democrat and have been since 1976. That does not mean I must suspend intelligent thought. I did not vote for Bush and I did not vote for Obama.

    The last spending package is comformation the Democrat's did suspend intelligent thought. Tell what are you going to do with extra $13 a week. Really what good did it do?

    And just so you don't accuse me of being a Republican, I'm an independent. I think the Repulican's are full of it too.

    • 1 vote
    #14.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:41 AM EST
    lilanomie

    The personification of the executive branch into a singular president is not a good thing, for many reasons. Our founding fathers considered multiple presidents (three), which I think would have largely alleviated that problem. Oh, and a labor party, that would be good.

    • 1 vote
    #14.3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:18 PM EST
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    Redneckstray

    If the president wants to stimulate the ecomomey how about giving the tax dollars(tax cuts) back to the people. Instead of giving our tax dollars to the companies and people(the ones that bought more house than they could afford or bad financing decisions). Some of us did it right and get nothing how is that fair. I don't feel sorry for any of you and plan on making thousands on the markets in the end. And I'm sure Obama going to want a bigger share to help pay for all the bail outs.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#15 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:26 AM EST
    lilanomie

    I think that we need to get beyond "should we cut taxes or spend $$", because I don't think that either one, in themselves, or even in cooperation with one another, is going to solve the problem of an overextended nation and population.

    I think we shouldn't ignore the fact that this is a GLOBAL financial crisis, caused, in my opinion, by two main problems:

    1) Greed which motivates fraudulent activities like those of Bernie Madoff and causes markets like housing and derivatives to inflate beyond market rationality

    2) Capitalist structure that depends on constant growth that can't always be sustained, largely because of #1, and also because at the same time that those in category #1 are saying "buy, buy, buy", they are also saying to peeps who need higher wages to do so "no, no, no".

    • 3 votes
    #15.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:11 PM EST
    Redneckstray

    I must comment on #2. You say people need higher wages, I say a person in this country can make as much as they want to, if they're are motivated. I make over a 6 figure income on a 12th grade education for 3 reasons:

    1)I refuse to wait for someone to hand it to me.

    2)I'm constantly educating myself on matters of money.

    3)Hard work 60-70 hrs a week

    So if a dumb Redneck can do it why can't everyone else?

    • 1 vote
    #15.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:28 PM EST
    lilanomie

    Because, there literally aren't as many jobs that make six figure incomes as people who are motivated/qualified for them. I mean, seriously. Seriously. Think about it a bit. In order for what you say to be true, there would have to be 300 million 6 figure income jobs out there available for the taking.

    My advice would be not to use your own level of success to judge those who have achieved less (financially - I clarify, because there are people who don't have 6 figure incomes who may have found greater success than you in other areas - parenting, personal relationships, whatever - And they shouldn't use their successes in those areas to demean you, either, if you're getting my point).

    And, there are definitely millions and millions of people with your same work ethic, etc., who don't have 6 figure incomes.

    • 3 votes
    #15.3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:49 PM EST
    not over it

    I would also add that not all dumb redneck's are created equally. Some dumb red necks are simply that. And we should be happy because they do jobs that need to be done. It would be nice if they were able to pay the bills and put food on the table while doing jobs that need to be done.

    They don't necessarily "deserve" a mansion on the hill but I think they should be able to provide for their family. The wage discrepancy in this country is disgusting and thereshould be no justification for taking advantage of the poor. They are forced to take these jobs, admittedly, by their own short falls in education but does that justify paying them a mere pittance just because you can.

    • 2 votes
    #15.4 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:58 PM EST
    Lara-911313

    The wage discrepancy in this country really is horrifying. Glad somebody sees it.

    • 2 votes
    #15.5 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:09 PM EST
    Lara-911313

    Let's not forget that the bailouts were initiated by Bush.

    And what you're describing, whether it's applied to companies or to people, is "trickle down economics." It has been tried for decades (Reagan and both Bushes). It has never worked. Ever. And at a time when people are losing their jobs and have to dip into their savings more and more just to survive, it won't work this time either.

    • 1 vote
    #15.6 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:14 PM EST
    c anderson

    Let's not forget the whole gang--BUSH, PELOSI, and REID. Funny how two of the gang are so often left out, isn't it?

    • 2 votes
    #15.7 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:22 PM EST
    Lara-911313

    My point was simply in response to the initial comment, that Obama did not propose the bailouts that are costing the taxpayers millions.

    The bottom line is everyone should have read the writing on the wall. It's been there for almost 30 years.

    • 1 vote
    #15.8 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:37 PM EST
    c anderson

    You're right there. Plenty of blame for lots and lots of people. Still, referring to Bush on the bailouts and not the others isn't exactly honest. It was backed by the Congressional Dems, not Repubs. Don't forget that Obama voted for it. Don't forget that he asked Bush to release the second half. This mess belongs to all of them!!!

    • 2 votes
    #15.9 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:00 PM EST
    Lara-911313

    You want to talk about honest? BOTH parties OVERWHELMINGLY supported the initial bailout proposals. I never said that Obama didn't vote for it. He even said that he doesn't want to give these banks and Wall Street money, but we have to to keep them alive, because once they fall apart our entire economy will go with them. We can definitely agree that there's enough blame to go around, but don't accuse me of being dishonest for leaving Pelosi and Reid out of an off-the-cuff remark if you're also going generalize the truth.

    • 1 vote
    #15.10 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:09 PM EST
    Redneckstray

    Most people who responded to my comments assumed I made all my money from my employment. Sorry, that's not the case. I make the median income for my area (Colorado). I aslo make money from different investments and activities (all legal). And as far as Rednecks go, I'm proud to be one. And have done many jobs that no one else would take because of low pay and/or the job just sucked to get ahead. The whole point of my comment is; if a person wants more out of any aspect of life you have to go out and get it. And take the necessary actions to get there, education(self or institutional), work hard, and never give up. I truely beleave anyone can achive success in anything with effort.

    • 1 vote
    #15.11 - Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:45 AM EST
    lilanomie

    If you truly believe that, than you simply don't understand. Tell that to the 65 million people living in India's slums. Etc. - including here in the U.S.

    I notice that way too many people use their own examples of their abilities to "overcome" socio-economic impacts on their lives to judge others' inability to do so.

    It's the basis of the most pervading structure of our culture --> CLASSISM

    • 2 votes
    #15.12 - Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:51 PM EST
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    eddiebird

    All his talk about "self sacrifice" makes me ill. We've been making "self sacrfices" by paying our taxes all along. I think it's about time the government makes it's own sacrfices like not flying first class over seas, etc.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#16 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:34 AM EST
    Redneckstray

    Best comment on the whole page!!!! When is the last time you ever heard the goverment vote to spend less over all. Spending goes up and up every year.

    • 1 vote
    #16.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:48 AM EST
    c anderson

    I don't think they do fly first class. I believe that most of them use OUR Air Force jets and pilots. Even more expensive than a first class ticket.

    • 3 votes
    #16.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:37 PM EST
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    c anderson

    Well, I guessed this one right!! Everytime Obama or a member of his administration talks--my 401K shrinks more. I wish they'd just SHUT UP~~~~

    • 3 votes
    Reply#17 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:43 AM EST
    lilanomie

    I think it's hilarious that you think all of a sudden that it's Obama's fault your 401K is shrinking. I know my 401K had shrunk by almost 2/3 over 8 months before he was in office.

    • 3 votes
    #17.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:06 PM EST
    clara-749599

    Get your $$$$$ out of that 401k, total rip off.

    • 1 vote
    #17.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:09 PM EST
    lilanomie

    Yeah, I agree with you on that - It's kind of too late for me, now, though. At this point, I am better off clinging to the hope that it will someday recover than cashing out the measly amount that's left. Sad face

    • 1 vote
    #17.3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:12 PM EST
    clara-749599

    Try tapping into that 401k when you lose your job, & can't make your house pymt. I was penalized 10%, not to mention I had to wait until the next quarter to even get my hands on the money.

    • 2 votes
    #17.4 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:18 PM EST
    lilanomie

    Yeah, thank god for John Locke and his rallying cry for private property, right? Who in this country really owns private property? Only those people who own homes and DON'T have mortgages own any significant amount. Cars, maybe, but that's not a whole lot of private property, and many people owe money on those, too. 401Ks are just another way to give money to the real property owners - Who, by the way, are becoming fewer and fewer in number as time goes on, as wealth gets more and more concentrated within a smaller and smaller percentage of the population.

    • 2 votes
    #17.5 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:25 PM EST
    c anderson

    Of course it shrunk before Obama took office. 26.4% to be exact. No doubt about that. Still, it shrinks more everytime he makes a speech.

    Back in October, I stated that the biggest thing working against our economy was Bush's fear factor speech. The fear made people save their money and buy less consumer goods. The sale of less goods decreased the need for manufaturing. The less manufacturing made layoffs happen. It began a huge downward spiral. Now, we just have more of the fear speech except it has become more intense.

    Bush was lousey. No doubt about that either. Obama isn't any better. How does Bush's failure make Obama's failure OK?

    • 1 vote
    #17.6 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:26 PM EST
    lilanomie

    I think Obama is better, even if he's not perfect (which he's not). I think the ways in which he is better than Bush have great, positive repercussions for our image in the world. I appreciate him for that. I really, really didn't appreciate what Bush did in that regard.

    But, I think you're wrong that Bush's fear factor speeches made peeps save their money and buy less consumer goods. All of the evidence says that when Bush said "Go shopping", America did. More than they could afford, actually. In combination with the housing bubble and the big $$ spending that people couldn't afford, we are a nation that is completely overextended. And that's where I think Obama is faltering, because freeing up credit isn't going to help if there's no one out there that can afford to take advantage of it.

    • 3 votes
    #17.7 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:37 PM EST
    c anderson

    The "go shopping" was right after 9/11-not during our current economic problems. It was stupid than too. You haven't seen me defend Bush. You won't see it. When the economy went down last fall, he used the fear speech to pass TARP--with the help of Pelosi and Reid.

    You're absolutely right about the credit thing. The last thing we need is more people getting themselves further into debt that they can't possibly pay. Our government needs to realize that the same rule applies to them. I could have been for much of the stimulus bill. Infrastructure, education, unemployment and health benefits, and job creation are all great. However, the massive spending on nonstimulus projects should have been put into a separate bill. We need to dig ourselves out of this hole before we take on more spending.

    Actually, I'm not feeling the economic problem other than my 401K and that could bounce back. I never bought things I couldn't afford. Credit was only for my home, vehicle and emergencies. A big-screen tv or I-phone is not an emergency.

    • 1 vote
    #17.8 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:45 PM EST
    lilanomie

    People started going shopping after 9/11, and didnt' stop until they had to. It's related, extremely, in my opinion. We were given the federal green light, in all kinds of ways, to overextend ourselves, individually and as a nation.

    To clarify, I don't have a big screen tv or an i-phone either, and I, too will cope. My credit is apparently better than 3/4 of the nation right now. We are feeling it, though. My husband is home today, and was yesterday, because there just wasn't enough work at the heating and cooling business where he works for him to come in.

    As far as Obama, I think it is healthy to discuss and critique what he is doing. However, I also think it is important not to villify him, or even to withdraw support, just because you can't be in 100% agreement. You know, one person's earmark, or pork-barrel spending, is another person's route to job creation and community pride. It's all relative to one's perspective. Public improvement projects are often labeled as earmarks or pork barrel spending, when in fact they often help rejuvenate areas and bring them into their own sustainability. I think that it is more important to focus on what his message is.

    People reacted very similarly to FDR (I am taking a 400 level course called "The American Presidency" at the University of Washington this quarter), but FDR changed our country for the better, no doubt. There are problems with what he did, too - he created a huge federal bureaucracy that provides too many opportunities for waste to occur. There are other problems, too. But he also helped millions of young people get jobs, planted 30 billion trees, created a balance between labor and business, and perhaps most importantly, set up structures so that people would stop starving in this country. There are more things he did that were useful, as well. Presidential action and consequence is more complicated than can be seen in the short run.

    • 2 votes
    #17.9 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:00 PM EST
    c anderson

    I never "villified" him. If you saw that, you read words that were never there.

    And, right now, I'm not sure what his message is. I don't think he's sure what it is either. That's the problem.

    Right now, we need to concentrate on truly necessary and stimulative spending. All the rest can wait for better days. And, there will be better days. There always are. This, too, needs to be stressed more often.

    Many top economists believe that FDR made the economic situation much worse and longer in duration. I just hope our current administration is studying that side of it all. We can't keep spending like the bills will never come due. They always do.

    • 1 vote
    #17.10 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:06 PM EST
    lilanomie

    I'm not saying YOU did. I'm speaking generally.

    Many top economists are unfortunatly caught up in using free-standing models that are completely useless in our interdependent reality. I'm taking microeconomics right now, and have taken macro as well. I think economists are full of shi*, and if we listened to them, we'd have a third world... world.

    And believe me, Obama's administration is studying EVERYTHING, which is why I think he deserves our support. Again, I am speaking generally, not about you.

    FDR did not make the economic situation worse. He caused economic growth, big time. It's a historical fact. What economists are talking about is that he didn't SOLVE the unemployment problem with his policies, which he didn't. He did, however, largely alleviate the conditions of unemployment (back to the starvation thing), and did provide jobs for many, many young people. It was not until the war, however, that employment reached pre-Depression levels.

    Obama has an advantage there, because while he doesn't have a world war to turn to for job creation (thank God!), he does have Energy. China IS the leader on energy right now, but it is early enough into the game that the US can become the leader, with the right investment. If the investment pays off (and who doesn't need energy - forever?), then we'll be able to pay those bills.

    • 1 vote
    #17.11 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:15 PM EST
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    lilanomie

    I truly appreciate what our President is trying to do. I campaigned for him, I voted for him, I support him. Here are my issues, though, with what he said:

    He wants to make sure credit gets "freed up". My issue with that is that, to my understanding, much of the reason not much credit is flowing is that most people and businesses are in up to their eyeballs in debt.

    Furthermore, he says that this will allow young people to buy a home - And that will mean that home needs to be built, creating jobs, etc. My issue with that is that from my understanding of the housing bubble, one reason why it popped was because the speculative market produced an excess of housing. Besides, most young people who buy houses don't buy new construction. So, it might create a small number of jobs in lending, escrow, appraising, and the like, but I don't see a huge difference that can be made by freeing credit up for a small number of people that can afford to buy a house right now, who will likely mostly buy already constructed homes.

    On the other hand, when it comes to energy, Obama is right on! Education and health care, too. He is setting good, achievable goals.

    Think about Obama's speech compared to Bush's. People need to realize that Bush CHOSE to govern by fear and trepidation. It was not necessary. As a matter of fact, the greatest deterrent to terrorism is a nation's ability to be unaffected by it.

    So, overall, thank you GOD for bringing optimism and humanity back to the White House. But I really am concerned about whether or not his plans for credit & job creation as it relates to credit are going to work out.

    We need to remember that no one is perfect, and no one has the perfect solution. I think that it is silly to celebretize our leader the way that Obama has been celebritized, and I think it is silly to villify him the way he has been, also.

    Americans are so caught up in defending their ideological stance that they think in black and white. The Republicans are especially guilty of that at this time. I hope that they suffer at election time so that they will rethink their ideological entrenchment.

    At the same time, I hope someone comes up with a better way to deal with the credit crisis, from the bottom up. I don't know what the solution is, personally, to the problem of a nation full of individuals who are in debt beyond their means. Anyone?

    • 2 votes
    Reply#18 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:57 AM EST
    c anderson

    Do you really think Obama hasn't used fear to promote his spending policies? It just looks like more of the same to me.

    I sure haven't seen that oprimism you speak of. Where was it? Inbetween "crisis"and "catastrophy"

    • 3 votes
    #18.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:00 PM EST
    lilanomie

    Oh, brother. That's ridiculous enough not even to warrant a real response. If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.

    • 2 votes
    #18.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:05 PM EST
    not over it

    It just looks like more of the same to me.

    I guess you haven't been looking then. Obama is investing in OUR country not just Iraq. Other than tax cuts for the rich Bush didn't do one thing in 8 years inside of our borders. That is change.

    • 2 votes
    #18.3 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:11 PM EST
    lilanomie

    Not over it -

    Yes, that was a great thing about his speech. He addressed terrorism without making it our national f-ing theme, and he talked about Iraq in practical, not histrionic, terms.

    • 2 votes
    #18.4 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:15 PM EST
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    lilanomie

    Just a quick, totally unrelated to the subject comment - Do you notice how many people post pictures of dogs for their avatar? Interesting.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#19 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:20 PM EST
    c anderson

    I'm sure that's supposed to be some kind of backdoor insult. It isn't done very well and says more about your poor attitude than the dog pictures.

      #19.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:28 PM EST
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      lilanomie

      Oh my god! It is not! Don't project your attitudes on to me, dude - or lady - or whatever. It was just an observation! Who's the one with the attitude? Geesh! Sensitive?

      • 1 vote
      Reply#20 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:29 PM EST
      c anderson

      You're a perfectly fine looking lady. But, trust me, the Newfie puppy is much more pleasant to look at than this old Gramma of 7!

      • 3 votes
      #20.1 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:53 PM EST
      lilanomie

      Well, that wasn't what I was trying to imply. Promise. It was just an observation, really.

      • 1 vote
      #20.2 - Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:01 PM EST
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      c anderson

      Unfortunately, I was right agian. (see #17) The market was up a little yesterday. Obama came out and spoke just before close. It closed down 80. Interesting how that works, isn't it?

      • 2 votes
      Reply#21 - Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:28 AM EST
      PANeal

      My suspicion is that movements right before the close are hedge fund traders raking in their greedy almost illegal profits based on insider knowledge.

      I wish i didn't have to be so gloomy about that, but until Obama's regulations get in place in a couple of years, I think the ups and downs of the stock market are mostly due to manipulation by the pros, and don't have much to do with real wealth or the real value of the day's news.

      I would be open to a more optimistic, healthier, view of the securities business. But I think the majority of the country shares my gloomy suspicions right now, and I think we better follow our elected leader toward a peaceful solution before the poor and the disenfranchised have to take to the streets like we/they did in the 60s.

      I happen to believe that President Obama's team is focused on and competent to achieve a longer view recovery that will result in compassion and participation for all of the people in this country, and not just the elite. I realize that he and many of his advisors are now part of the elite. But we have to trust them anyway and follow the sacrifices he is asking of us.

      The energy crisis, global warming, the abysmal state of our health care and education systems demand our attention much more that a few hundred point blips in the indexes of 30 or so corporations.

      • 1 vote
      #21.1 - Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:00 AM EST
      c anderson

      We don't HAVE to trust them. We are allowed to think with our own minds.

      • 2 votes
      #21.2 - Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:01 AM EST
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      foxygrandma

      I sit here reading all these coments which most of them are always putting down Oama (by the way he is the President of the US and people cant call him President Oama) that is so sad.......NO one had a probelm with Bush........He was voted the worst president in history......It goes to show how bad our counrty really is........so much hate and discontent there is.......Now we have someone that is trying to do what is best for the america people and all you can do ,,,,,,,is put him down........I dont hear anyone with any plans to got us out of the mess we are in......President Oama has only be if office for just over a little more than 30 something days........and he has done a lot more for us than bush did in his whole 8 years...so many people have short memories........who put us in this messssssss......It wasnt President Oama......it was Bush...............most of you just complain but no solutions offered.........just like all the rep. do........those that call us dem. names while you dont even know me.....so you dont have the right to call me any name................this world we live in is in a real messs.......but no one can offer any ideas to got us out of the mess.......all i ask is at least give President Oama a change................

      • 1 vote
      Reply#22 - Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:16 PM EST
      dcstone01

      The ones you hear complaining foxygrandma, are just noisy sore losers. There are alot more out there that are working with the president on making things better and they aren't noisy. (But we do hear the noise and won't let it go unanswered.)

      Don't let it get you down foxy, do your thing, speak out like you did, stay positive, help your family, friends and neighbors, thats all we can do...while Mr. Obama is working for ALL of us, including even them.

      • 2 votes
      #22.1 - Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:56 PM EST
      BB-375952

      I find it very interesting when one talks about Republicans not excepting Oama as President Oama, Is that his name? I have been calling him OBAMA..........I can tell you that ABC, NBC, and CBS, rarely....if ever....called Bush....President Bush.....and the ones who are WHINING about people talking against OBAMA are the ones who spewed hatred for GEORGE BUSH since the very day he was elected. So if you live in a glass house don't be throwing stones.

      • 3 votes
      #22.2 - Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:48 AM EST
      dcstone01

      Hey, I don't know about other people, but I walk the talk...I respect the office but can disrespect the man...so the former president Bush was Bush...and I also do refer to Pres. Obama as simply Obama....

      • 1 vote
      #22.3 - Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:01 PM EST
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      Shub Tnediserp Remrof

      Another option, he spelled out on ABC's "Good Morning America," would be to "use the television and the radio and the media to embarrass them for not doing what they're supposed to do."

      Bad idea and hopefully was only a joke. That money if used in media should be used not for negative purposes but to give hope to American citizens. Extra money should go to taking care anyone but the banks. Banks need to be nationalized no matter what the government and or Obama has said about that issue.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#23 - Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:09 AM EST
      Beckyal

      I worked at HHS and fraud is so bad that Congress gave HHS money to set a fraud unit and it still could not fix the problem. If HHS is unable to control what they had why does anyone believe that sending money will fix any problem. By the way for all those that believe those of us who have retired and taken two additional jobs so we could afford things that we could not afford earlier, take responsibility for yourself. I didn't have a new car until I was 50, didn't have a cell phone until two years ago, didn't purchase a house until 5 years ago, now Obama wants me to pay for yours because you don't save. I also paid for medical insurance when I wanted to use the money to buy a house but I knew that medical insurance was important. I refuse to work so that people who gambled and purchased a house they really couldn't afford so that they could sell it later, lost. Gamblers do that!!!! People who have more kids than they can afford should learn self control and not expect me to pay for them. Grow up people you are driving the country into bankrupty, one of the problems that many big corporations have is that they have personnel benefits that they didn't save to pay for. THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO AMERICA! Welcome to the land of debtors and people who have their hand out!!!!

        Reply#24 - Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:11 AM EST
        dcstone01

        True...but examples are set from the 'top'...

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        #24.1 - Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:04 PM EST
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