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Iran angered over films 'The Wrestler' and '300'

Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:23 AM EST
world-news, entertainment, us, iran, ml, hollywood
Nasser Karimi, Associated Press
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<p>US  actresses Annette Bening, left, and Alfre Woodard, right, pose for photographers along with Iranian actress Fatemeh Motamed Arya, prior to start of a seminar "Acting for Film"  given by Bening and Woodard, in Tehran, Iran, Sunday, March 1, 2009. (AP Photo/Vahid Salemi)</p>

US actresses Annette Bening, left, and Alfre Woodard, right, pose for photographers along with Iranian actress Fatemeh Motamed Arya, prior to start of a seminar "Acting for Film" given by Bening and Woodard, in Tehran, Iran, Sunday, March 1, 2009. (AP Photo/Vahid Salemi)

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TEHRAN — An adviser to Iran's president on Sunday demanded an apology from a team of visiting Hollywood actors and movie industry officials, including Annette Bening, saying films such as "300" and "The Wrestler" were "insulting" to Iranians.

Without an apology, members of Iran's film industry should refuse to meet with representatives from the nine-member team, said Javad Shamaqdari, the art and cinema adviser to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

"In my viewpoint, it is a failure to have an official meeting with one who is insulting," Shamaqdari told The Associated Press.

The film "300," portrays the battle of Thermopylae in 480 B.C., in which a force of 300 Spartans held off a massive Persian army at a mountain pass in Greece for three days. It angered many Iranians for the way Persians are depicted as decadent, sexually flamboyant and evil in contrast to the noble Greeks.

Iranians also criticized "The Wrestler" starring Mickey Rourke as a rundown professional wrestler who is preparing for a rematch with his old nemesis, "The Ayatollah." During a fight scene, "The Ayatollah" tries to choke Rourke with an Iranian flag before Rourke pulls the flagpole away, breaks it and throws it into the cheering crowd.

Neither movie was shown in Iran.

While American actors such as Sean Penn have traveled to Iran, it is rare for such a large group to visit. In February, Iran denied visas to a U.S. women's badminton team that had been invited to compete in a tournament in Iran.

The group includes the President of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, Sid Ganis; actors Bening, and Alfre Woodard; producer William Horberg; AMPAS Special Events Programmer and Exhibitions Curator Ellen Harrington; and Tom Pollock, the former Universal Pictures chairman.

According to the Web site of Iran's Cinema Association, the group arrived Friday in Iran. They met a group of Iranian artists on Saturday, and will be holding educational seminars in directing, screenwriting, acting, producing, marketing and film distribution.

Shamaqdari says Iranians will warmly host the visiting Americans "but it will not stop Iranians from demanding an apology."

Iranian political analyst Saeed Laylaz downplayed Shamaqdari's comments, saying they were meant for domestic consumption. He pointed out that the visit must have been approved by the government.

"It is not likely any American, especially Hollywood people, could visit Iran without Iranian government approval," said Laylaz.

Meanwhile, the visiting Hollywood actors and industry officials held their seminars Sunday as scheduled. During one session, Ali Reza Raisian, the head of the Association of Iranian Directors, said the visit would improve Iran's movie industry.

Most ordinary Iranians were not aware of the visit since state radio and television did not widely report it. But those who had heard said they hoped it would improve relations between the two countries.

"The two countries have tried to wrestle in many ways," said Mahrokh Razani, a self-described movie fan who said he found out about the trip on the Internet. "I hope they can have better ties through movies."

Hossein Taghi, an Iranian businessman who often travels to the U.S., said he was surprised and elated that well-known Hollywood figures would visit Iran.

"This made my family and me very happy," said Taghi. "It is a sign of goodwill by both countries."

The visits come as President Barack Obama has indicated a new willingness to open up relations with Iran.

Relations between the two countries have been strained over concerns in the West that Iran is trying to develop a nuclear weapons program, something Tehran denies. The U.S. has also alleged that overwhelmingly Shiite Iran supports Shiite militias in Iraq, which Iran says is not true.

The two countries have not had diplomatic relations since the 1979 Islamic Revolution and the hostage-taking at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.

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graeywolf

This has to be one of the most ludicrous (idiotic) Articles I have read in awhile.

The actions and behavior of Iranians over the last 30 years has pretty well painted the picture of how the world sees them today. In all likelihood most people in the west do not even make that connection of what the once great Persian Empire has anything to do with the country of Iran today.

On the other hand, 300 Spartans kicked butt for days and the Persians, well I can see how that could be embarrassing?

Oh my, more offended people, Apology, Hell No.

  • 25 votes
#1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:13 AM EST
Consultant13Deleted
Darkwood

I can see why anyone who saw 300 might be offended since its depiction of the famous Spartan stand against overwhelming forces was ludicrous from their spandex short-shorts to the promulgation of the myth that there were only 300 warriors participating on the Spartan side. The movie was based on a graphic novel (a large comic book). I would have much rather seen some homage paid to a much more realistic fictional novel "The Gates of Fire" by Steven Pressfield. I can see where depicting Xerxes as some sort of big Nellie boy might be offensive to a country that still has a lot of pride in a culture that flourished 2500 years ago. 300 is Hollywood at its best and its worst, a fabulous production that did much to further misinformation in an audience that needs all the real information it can get.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:10 AM EST
Meloney

I disagree that wearing a head scarf looks ridiculous, implies unseemly submission, is sickening, etc, etc. Of course Michelle Obama will wear a head scarf (and still have a spine) when it's appropriate just like Laura Bush and Condolezza Rice have done in the past.

  • 13 votes
#1.3 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:15 AM EST
spudpundit

300 was bad enough that I'm surprised the Greeks didn't request an apology. As for the scene in The Wrestler, I suppose we could apologize when they've apologized for American flag burnings and effigy burnings.

Um, hey Iran. Sensitive much?

  • 7 votes
#1.4 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:16 AM EST
Consultant13Deleted
Behind My Screen

spudpundit,

I was going to ask "how would we feel if...." regarding our flag, but you bring up a good point. Maybe Iran should shut its mouth on the issue.

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:03 PM EST
ARCHON-PRIME

Another opportunity LOST, the Western Free Woman can make a statement of support instead of rolling up into a stupid idiotic submissive state.

The Mideastern woman is trying to obtain her freedom, Western Women in these Mideast headscarves look utterly ridiculous and is an ego boost to the mentally retarded males of the Middle East who's culture is to oppress and abuse.

Nancy Pelosi in a headscarf was sickening.

At least these "liberated" Western women know their place in muslim society.

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:03 PM EST
Digital-904078

OMG whine a little. How do these guys get to run a country. Our leaders have half of everybody in America itself insulting them uncensored and I don't see their panties in a bunch. Guess we got thicker skins this side of the pond.

  • 5 votes
#1.8 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:09 PM EST
JoulesBeef

The actions and behavior of Iranians over the last 30 years has pretty well painted the picture of how the world sees them today. In all likelihood most people in the west do not even make that connection of what the once great Persian Empire has anything to do with the country of Iran today

yeah like when they shot that commerical plane of ours out of the sky.. cant belvie they got away with that..and when they started that war between us and the canadians and supported both sides.. what evil bastids.. and they monetarily support a terrorist group known as the mek in the US and do you remember when they overthrew the US and installed a dictator called the shah.?

Oh wait that wasnt Iran... that was US against Iran

yeah iran loooks soooooo evil until you actually look at history.. then it appears like a country condemned 6to be on a top of a pile of oil just deperate for survival.

We have overthrown them before.. we just overthrew their neighbor.. how do you expect them to act?

  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:24 PM EST
Consultant13Deleted
shawn-

300 was nothing but a vile propaganda and an attempt by Hollywood to depict a people in a negative manner. This is so consistent and pervasive by the Israeli leaning Hollywood who would seem to go to any length to demonize Persians, Arabs any one who they deem an enemy. On this very topic just read the Israeli leaning propaganda and the constant demonizing reminiscent of the Nazi's precursor to elimination of the Jews. That lesson learned at the hands of Nazi's has not gone to waste. Just ask yourself "when was the last time you saw a movie depicting an Iranian or Arab in a positive manner and then ask yourself when was the last time you saw a Jew as a villain"?

Israeli deeds in it's occupied lands are despicable and villainous but you will never see it coming out of Hollywood. Just some food for though from a sickened impartial observer.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:51 PM EST
ARCHON-PRIME

At least these "liberated" Western women know their placein muslim society.

Islam is the lowest of the lowest lifestyles mankind ever invented. Cold, ruthless, disrespectful, misogynistic, masochistic, child abuse, genital mutilation, horror galore, it dehumanizes and turns a healthy being into a hopeless wretched bundle of helplessness. 1400 years Islam has given this planet and mankind nothing but misery.

Can I call you Sherlock?

The biggest lie on this planet: Islam is peace.

The time Bush did lie!

You seem to be proud to be part of this retarded state of mind Archon-Prime.

Really?

Does "knee-jerk reaction" mean anything to you?

Do you know where your "place" is in society?

I do.

Do you know how ironicit is for Annette Benning to submit to an oppressive culture while she mouths off about Republican/Conservative Americans when she's home or in Europe?

300 was nothing but a vile propaganda and an attempt by Hollywood to depict a people in a negative manner.

This is so consistent and pervasive by the Israeli leaning Hollywood who would seem to go to any length to demonize Persians, Arabs any one who they deem an enemy.

300 was written and published as a comic book in 1998 before the film was produced/released and years before the 9/11 attacks.

The comic book was based on the 1963 The 300 Spartans film and written by a New England born & raised, W.A.S.P..

Not quite the Zionist consiracy youd like.

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:53 PM EST
prompt

impartial observer

Hehe.

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:55 PM EST
shawn-

prompt we are entitled a little literary license. "Once an impartial observer...now just sickened" how is that friend?

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 1:09 PM EST
worldcurmudgeon

And I supposed that thirty years of Iranians burning American flags should bother us at all, nor their involvement in insurgent training, arms dealing terrorism, and out right assassination of their own liberals should anger anyone.

If they don't like the movies, don't show them. After a few months most American's have moved on to the next round of movies anyway. Besides, historically, the Persians did get their butts kicked by the Greeks.

  • 5 votes
#1.15 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 2:52 PM EST
Buckeye Voter

300 was nothing but a vile propaganda and an attempt by Hollywood to depict a people in a negative manner...

You realize the movie 300 was based on a comic book, right?

That said, the Persians did invade Greece and Leonidas is a hero for his stand at Thermopylae.

When judging a work of art as offensive or not, I don't look to the Iranians for guidance.

  • 11 votes
#1.16 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 3:22 PM EST
take2la

based on a comic book

The Iranian disapproval was brought to you by the same belief system which has killed & rioted because of cartoons.

I'm just saying.

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 3:36 PM EST
Behind My Screen

That is not a belief system that rioted, that is a culture.

  • 3 votes
#1.18 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 6:22 PM EST
Spikegary

300 was nothing but a vile propaganda and an attempt by Hollywood to depict a people in a negative manner.

Are you kidding me? It's Hollywood's attempt to make money. Anything more is just simply putting your spin on things based on what you think.

  • 3 votes
#1.19 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 6:54 PM EST
Simplistic Reality

Iran angered over films 'The Wrestler' and '300'

Who gives a F**k!

  • 5 votes
#1.20 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 5:57 AM EST
Britlassy

Simplistic..... atta boy !!!

  • 5 votes
#1.21 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 6:01 AM EST
tangojones

Tell 'em straight

  • 5 votes
#1.22 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 6:08 AM EST
Greg-281912

Could someone tell me why these Iranians were forced to watch these movies in the first place?

Were they held at gunpoint during the entire film? Were there guards at the exits to the theatres so that they couldn't get up and leave?

I don't understand. If I don't like a movie, I just get up and leave, but that's America!

  • 2 votes
#1.23 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 12:55 PM EST
Meturaf

This is Islam griping. Persia today without Islam could be Persiadise.

  • 1 vote
#1.24 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 1:30 PM EST
jesusitshot

Could someone tell me why these Iranians were forced to watch these movies in the first place?

It goes with the job as do the porn films, its all part of Millitant Inteligence such suffering for the Islamic nation, of course theres a licence to view and the 007 tag on the prayer mat. lol

To be serious they would have a department to vet films, to see if they are decremental to Islamic moral standards.

    #1.25 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 2:03 PM EST
    shawn-

    worldcurmud:

    1- What is more "democracy like" Iranians burning Israeli flags for 30 years or Israeli killings, torture and occupation for 60?

    2- Answer another one: Is it not the right of every human to drive it's "occupiers" out by all means available?

    3- Is it okay for victims of Hitler to behave just like their own ole nemesis?

    • 2 votes
    #1.26 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 3:40 PM EST
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    biggerthebetter-620467

    Alfre Woodard and Annette Benning should demand an apology for being forced to go against their own culture and wear Islamic headgear.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:24 AM EST
    Not by might, nor power

    "Alfre Woodard and Annette Benning should demand an apology for being forced to go against their own culture and wear Islamic headgear."

    I doubt Ms. Benning and Ms. Woodard felt in any way "forced" to dress in accordance with contemporary Iranian women's fashion. They understand that there are cultural differences. That's all it amounts to. A cultural difference.

    Demands for apology can take the form of:

    "We are sorry that the films were found to be offensive by the Iranian people who saw them. Any offense was completely unintentional."

    A sincere apology is not a sign of weakness, and can go along way to resolving past disagreements between two parties and restoring good relations.

    • 6 votes
    #2.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:12 AM EST
    ARCHON-PRIME

    I doubt Ms. Benning and Ms. Woodard felt in any way "forced" to dress in accordance with contemporary Iranian women's fashion.

    Don't.

    Muslim nations often place dress-restrictions on visitng non-muslims.

    • 8 votes
    #2.2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:05 PM EST
    graeywolf

    Archon,

    That is one of the basic problems. When we travel to Muslim Countries restrictions are placed on us that we must abide by.

    I believe that when Muslims travel to the West we should be placing Restrictions on them that they must abide by.

    Now that the USA is slowly but surely taking away our rights (US Citizens) it is time that we start passing laws that restrict what Muslims may or may not do in our Country.

    If they do not like they can always go home!

    • 5 votes
    #2.3 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 1:00 PM EST
    ARCHON-PRIME

    it is time that we start passing laws that restrict what Muslims may or may not do in our Country.

    We didn't do it for the last 8-years, we certainly won't be doing it for the next 4!

    Obama spent his first 10 days in office appeasing muslims there's no way hes' going to stop submitting to them now.

    • 6 votes
    #2.4 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 2:28 PM EST
    biggerthebetter-620467

    Women are MADE to wear those headdresses, and it's an insult to OUR women's culture. If they Iranians want an apology, they need to extend one themselves. Or would you like it if Americans forced Muslim females to wear bluejeans or bikinis when they come here b/c it's a "cultural norm"?

    • 7 votes
    #2.5 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 4:49 PM EST
    take2la

    females to wear bluejeans or bikinis when they come here

    AWESOME IDEA!

    I vote yes.

    • 3 votes
    #2.6 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 5:31 PM EST
    biggerthebetter-620467

    Laura Bush and Condoleezza Rice bowed to Muslims and wore those headdresses, too. Nobody has the right to force someone to wear the clothing of a religion they don't belong to.

    On the other hand, as pissed as this makes me, I don't DARE complain when people have to don yarmulkes in Israel, or I'll be anti-semitic.

    Can we force Jewish or Islamic people who come here to wear crosses?

    • 1 vote
    #2.7 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 7:31 PM EST
    Behind My Screen

    clothing of a religion? head scarfs have been used and are used by Christians and Jews.

    Men in all those religions wear head dress as well. It shows respect to God.

    • 2 votes
    #2.8 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 9:14 PM EST
    ARCHON-PRIME

    don't DARE complain when people have to don yarmulkes in Israel, or I'll be anti-semitic.

    Non-Jews are not forced to wear yarmulkes in Israel or any Synagogue.

    • 5 votes
    #2.9 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:22 PM EST
    The OttO Show

    I doubt Ms. Benning and Ms. Woodard felt in any way "forced" to dress in accordance with contemporary Iranian women's fashion. They understand that there are cultural differences. That's all it amounts to. A cultural difference.

    Obviously they "understand" that. The question is why would they still participate? Anyone care to wager on the idea that these actresses aren't committed feminists? Do they know what Iranian women have gone through since the "revolution"? Prior to 1979 there were actually influential and powerful women in government and media. Regardless of whether they supported the Ayatollah's take over or not, they were systematically removed from their positions and those who were trouble or made a stink were imprisoned, if not worse. And Iran, to this day, still sanctions brutal punishments for women who offend the Islamic laws as they are imposed.

    But then we have these smiling dunce elitists show up grinning from ear to ear in their oppressive garments. And for what? For some noble effort to influence change in Iran or send messages of comradeship to the women of Iran? No, rather so they can be big-shots and show the Iranians how to effectively play-act on screen and "improve" Iran's movie industry, because nothing is better than improving a state run propaganda industry.

    To compare this (and Pelosi's visit to Syria) to Laura Bush (who was visiting Jerusalem) and Condi Rice (who was visiting Afghanistan) is laughable. No one in Jerusalem was going to force the US presidents wife to wear headscarf and there is a difference between diplomats conforming to the cultures of allies that we need to work with vs. attention whores like Benning and Pelosi visiting enemy states for no grander purpose than to make themselves seem important. One leftist blog I visited was even, in response to conservative complaints, showing photos of Jackie Kennedy and Audrey Hepburn wearing headscarves as if that proved anything.

    Besides, I don't recall L.Bush and Rice ever being linked to radical feminism. Who forgot to tell Pelosi that feminists probably needn't go on junkets to anti-feminist nations who we are in conflict with and put a big stupid smile on their faces while pretending they are doing something important and productive?

    For once, I'd like to see some famous American full-of-themselves women visit one of these awful countries and get treated like the livestock. Maybe Sean Penn, who thinks Iran is a wonderful and beautiful place, could move his wife and daughter there and see how glorious it is.

    God, I hate celebrities...

    What I missed in the article was whether or not the apology was being given or considered.

    • 2 votes
    #2.10 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:53 PM EST
    Simplistic Reality

    females to wear bluejeans or bikinis when they come here

    haha. I'm all for it. Fair is fair right?? >:)

    • 3 votes
    #2.11 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 6:20 AM EST
    jesusitshot

    Can we force Jewish or Islamic people who come here to wear crosses?

    No but if you ask one politely he will be pleased too as long as the Star of David sits on top. lol

    When you step on the soil of a Islamic nation you step into a temple of god, where you can place down a prayer mat facing the holy City. When you step on US soil its not a temple of God and the citizens do not view it that way.

    A good Muslim will however treat it as a temple and follow the Islamic tradition.

    Its a case of understanding the way that a Muslim looks at life, its different than you the non believer and its a shame that many non Muslims do not respect such religions as you respect your own.

    I have read the eye for an eye comments and agree that should be the way but then look at the problem of a lack of respect for a religion that require more dedication in every day live than Christianity and a bit more than Judaism.

    Yes it seems unfair, yes the laws are harsh and could not fit in with Christianity or Jewish societies. But this is how billions of followers of the Islam faith want to live its their culture its the faith they have been born into.

    I rather not cast the first stone, when I am in the social community of Muslims I follow their customs as not to offend its call respect and its the human thing in my mind to do.

    As I would respect and follow the custom of any religious society that was of course within my own acceptance of moral standard.but of course that's my opinion its my message to those that want the eye for and eye that may not realize respect is better than hate and hate breeds hate.

    I am the messenger and by attacking me and not addressing the message will show your non decent low intelligent mentality and not that you are wiser or more school than I am even if you are.you will not receive a reply as you would not be worthy of my time or thoughts.

    • 4 votes
    #2.12 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 10:28 AM EST
    The OttO Show

    Yes it seems unfair, yes the laws are harsh and could not fit in with Christianity or Jewish societies. But this is how billions of followers of the Islam faith want to live its their culture its the faith they have been born into.

    I rather not cast the first stone, when I am in the social community of Muslims I follow their customs as not to offend its call respect and its the human thing in my mind to do.

    Wow. Somehow I don't think the women who are oppressed in Iran (particularly the ones who remember better prospects before 1979) would jump up in agreement. I guess this approach should apply to apartheid in South Africa or Jewish oppression in Nazi Germany or genocide in Rawanda...or are human rights selective and subjective?

    I wonder how this reconciles with the oft-stated beliefs that the Iranian people don't support their oppressive regime and are really pro-moderates seeking a way out...

      #2.13 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 10:07 PM EST
      jesusitshot

      Wow. Somehow I don't think the women who are oppressed in Iran (particularly the ones who remember better prospects before 1979) would jump up in agreement. I guess this approach should apply to apartheid in South Africa or Jewish oppression in Nazi Germany or genocide in Rawanda...or are human rights selective and subjective?

      I have not said that I think the religion is a good one, but gave a small view of how a Muslim looks at religion. The problem is that most muslin women follow the religion and think that their position is norm the religion indoctrination is set into the culture its a way of life, its how they live in a world that belongs to their god.

      I wonder how this reconciles with the oft-stated beliefs that the Iranian people don't support their oppressive regime and are really pro-moderates seeking a way out...

      Its the wish of Allah, and Allah has spoke through the lips of the extremist. What can the moderates do, where do the innocent go. Of course there are moderates and there are definatly innocent people whom want to live a life of peace within the country of Iran. The country is soldiered by ex-terrorist and has a ultimate religious head of state an extremist Islamic scholar and guru.

      Not much you can do if you don't own a gun you have to go with the flow and in the case of moderate muslims they will often quote Its the wish of Allah.

      There idea of religion and their god is completely different, god is there guiding them to be good servants and gods will is within the words of the holy men the clerics.

      The religion can not be modernized and Muhammad's words and thought came directly from Allah. The clerics have great power and the extremist can twist the verses in the Koran to mean what they want them to be. But it does not mean that the moderates believe what is said and they go with the flow, they have to to survive and so do their families.

      • 1 vote
      #2.14 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 5:50 AM EST
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      abacass

      It angered many Iranians for the way Persians are depicted as decadent, sexually flamboyant and evil in contrast to the noble Greeks.

      Yeah because their has never been a movie that has depicted Americans as decadent, sexually flamboyant or evil. Are people really afraid that people think 300 represents reality.

      • 4 votes
      Reply#3 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:25 AM EST
      Yosho

      300 was never meant to be a documentary. If historical accuracy were a priority, the Spartans would have had little room to insult the Athenians in the script.

      I might have seen a point on the Iranians' part if it weren't for the fact that the story takes place before Islam started, and therefore irrelevant in regards to modern Iran regardless of historical accuracy or lack thereof. It would be like someone of Italian descent demanding an apology for the depiction of Roman decadence in the movie Caligula.

      • 2 votes
      #3.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:25 PM EST
      JaimeJ

      Wow the lack of cultural respect amazes me. Its sickening to see america soo wraped up in hollywood glamour, that the loose the respect for other countrirs and culture. Lets take for example that a movie came out pertaining to pearl harbor produced by the japanese glorifying the fact that they kamikazed our beloved country then the cast of the movie came to America flaunting their theatrical production. I think some people might be a little perturbed over the issue. Even though "300" and "The Wrestler" are just movies from the past, it doesn't mean that it isn't a touchy subject for cultures on the short end of it. Many culture take the past very seriously and can be severely offended by sensitive subjects like this. Americans need to start having a little more respect for all cultures weather they feel if it is proper or not, accomplishing this will nip allot of these outbursts in their tracks.

      • 2 votes
      #3.2 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 8:38 AM EST
      KBUTTDeleted
      The OttO Show

      then the cast of the movie came to America flaunting their theatrical production. I think some people might be a little perturbed over the issue. Even though "300" and "The Wrestler" are just movies from the past, it doesn't mean that it isn't a touchy subject for cultures on the short end of it.

      I haven't seen either movie - did this troupe have anything to do with those films?

        #3.4 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST
        MizDelight

        JaimeJ:

        You made a valid point about how much respect we have regarding other cultures. I didn't watch either movie, but my studies are dealing with this exact same subject. The problem is, in my opinion, that Iran does not care whom they offend, or how they offend..........yet we find out they are sensitive....OMG. I think it was stupid for the crew to step foot in that territory, if they would have became statistic's I can't say I would have been outraged. Their mission was purely selfish, and they were the one's being inconsiderate to your country. Why should I care because you let someone in your country that offends you? ( I am using you for an example, I do not know whether you are from Iran or not.) Your point was well taken, but has not changed my opinion.

          #3.5 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 1:41 AM EST
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          Aalaf Alot

          The Chinese should demand an apology for all recent movies insulting them.

          Blacks should demand an apology for all recent movies insulting them.

          Anyone or everyone should demand apology in recent times for insulting them too.

          BTW, the Jewish people should demand for movies and TV Shows in Iran that insult them like ones denying the Holocaust and worst.

          • 12 votes
          Reply#4 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:28 AM EST
          tom sevigny

          Aalaf,

          You are forgetting Christians. The clergy and people affiliated with the Christian faith as a rule are depicted as unjust, hypocritical, intolerant, deceitful, uncompassionate or pedophiles by Hollywood. The only movie in a long while that portrays a clergyman as a protagonist is John Malkovich in Changling.

          I have never heard a Muslim publicy denounce and decry the mistreatment and persecution of Christians throughout the world at the hands of Muslims.

          • 3 votes
          #4.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:41 PM EST
          ARCHON-PRIME

          The clergy and people affiliated with the Christian faith as a rule are depicted as unjust, hypocritical, intolerant, deceitful, uncompassionate or pedophiles by Hollywood.

          Hollywood has an agenda.

          The only movie in a long while that portrays a clergyman as a protagonist is John Malkovich in Changling.

          Don't forget Clint Eastwood's Pale Rider.

          • 6 votes
          #4.2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:25 PM EST
          tom sevigny

          That was a while ago Arch.

            #4.3 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 9:32 AM EST
            Reply
            zennhead

            Naw. This is b.s. It's only a movie. If they're so worried about it, then demand they actually SHOW the movies, uncut and uncensored, in Iran first.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#5 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:38 AM EST
            Timmy-790009

            My tiny kitten insulted me !

            • 4 votes
            Reply#6 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:40 AM EST
            Britlassy

            Meee--owwww

            • 4 votes
            #6.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:57 AM EST
            Reply
            rlanantelope

            300 was a comic book not just a movie. Guess the writer owes them an apology?

            • 3 votes
            Reply#7 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:42 AM EST
            Simplistic Reality

            The writer can tell them to shove it.

            • 2 votes
            #7.1 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 6:21 AM EST
            Tom-732264

            The writer would tell them to shove it.

            • 1 vote
            #7.2 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 8:22 AM EST
            Reply
            SuperUnspecial

            They shouldn't be insulted by the 300, they should have just asked for their money back like the rest of us. That's what you do when you see horrible movies.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#8 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:47 AM EST
            tom sevigny

            Actually Meet the Spartans is probably as historically accurate, but I digress...

            • 3 votes
            #8.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:49 PM EST
            Greg-281912

            tom, funny you should mention Meet The Spartans. After seeing it, as well as 300, I really couldn't decide which was the satire.

            They were both ridiculous, funny, and what's really odd is that they were both pretty much soft-core gay pornography which middle-America enjoyed in droves!

            Who knew that millions and millions of Americans liked to spend two hours in the dark with hundreds of semi-naked men on screen!

            • 1 vote
            #8.2 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 12:59 PM EST
            Reply
            Old & Tired Shot Up Vet-732760

            Two questions:

            1. Does anyone really care what the Iranians think??

            2. Does anyone really care what the Hollywood crowd & Sean Penn does???

            • 7 votes
            Reply#9 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:48 AM EST
            graeywolf

            1. Uh, NO!

            2. Uh, NO!

            • 4 votes
            #9.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:43 AM EST
            shawn-

            olevet: Don't ever under estimate the power of propaganda. Hollywood or Nazi. Similarities are remarkable and both remarkably effective. Both have caused plenty of grief, hatred and death.

            • 5 votes
            #9.2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 1:27 PM EST
            ARCHON-PRIME

            Does anyone really care what the Hollywood crowd & Sean Penn does???

            2. Uh, NO!

            It's time you should-THEY got Obama elected.

            • 6 votes
            #9.3 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 2:30 PM EST
            graeywolf

            Archon,

            Please get some solid information first. Jesus I have to really hold back as not to get insulting.

            This has nothing to do with Obama, nothing to do with who voted him into office.

            This has to do with the Oppressive regime in Iran and their folly of expecting Apologies for movies made by Hollywood.

            Furthermore, a few greeks kicked their Arses hundreds of years ago and they can't look past that.

            either the Spartans were really bad a$$ sob's or the Persians were Kittens (Pu$$ies) as they are today.! Nuff Said?

            • 7 votes
            #9.4 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 2:50 PM EST
            tom sevigny

            Does anyone care what Sean Penn thinks?

            Nope. That Marxist, Got Milk, Che's tatoo on his asscheek fruitloop should pack up and move to Cuba or Venezuela. I doubt he'll go though. There is too much public recognition being a posterchild for American socialism.

            • 4 votes
            #9.5 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:52 PM EST
            ARCHON-PRIME

            Does anyone really care what the Hollywood crowd & Sean Penn does???

            2. Uh, NO!

            It's time you should-THEY got Obama elected.

            Please get some solid information first.

            You practice what you preach?

            Jesus I have to really hold back as not to get insulting.

            Do try.

            I won't have to put you in your place otherwise.

            This has nothing to do with Obama, nothing to do with who voted him into office.

            YOU'RE WRONG.

            This has to do with the Oppressive regime in Iran and their folly of expecting Apologies for movies made by Hollywood.

            They got their apology and the submission of "liberated" American liberals.

            While it means nothing to you, it means a lot in the Middle East; to them the election of Obama and his immediate submission to Islamo-terrorists around the world, and Hollywood's dhimmi-tude submission are messages that AMERICA IS SUBMISSIVE; hence their demands of apologies for comic-book tales of Persian defeats 1000-years before Mohammed unleashed his reign of terror on the world.

            Hollywood, Sean Penn, Rosie O'Donnell, Whoopie, Michael Moore, Susan Sarandon and the usual Lefty suspects, have been a campaign of anti-American propaganda since their King left the White House; 8-years of AMERICA IS WRONG for all of our enemies and our weak-minded liberal citizens to seize upon and embolden themselves.

            Hollywood took great efforts to push Obama and to this day liberal progressive's will tell you how Sarah Palin actually said she "could see Russia from her house" never realizing that an angry, bitter, scarred woman is the source of the perceived "stupidity".

            Hollywood is behind this overture to Iran, and that's just the tip of their ideological iceberg that is heading OUR way.

            Ginger Rogers wouldn't have visited Hitler and worn a matching arm-band.

            'nuff said!

            • 5 votes
            #9.6 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:16 PM EST
            KBUTTDeleted
            Reply
            Redthing

            This just shows how insecure Iranians are.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#10 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:52 AM EST
            Aalaf Alot

            It not insecurity of the Iranian People. They are pawns of the Iranian Religious and Political Elite. The Religious and Political elite want Iranian people to only see the world through their eyes and limited their view of the world.

            Why do you think the elite keep denying Holocaust and make anti-Semitic remarks probably daily? They want to keep in control for their failures by blaming Jews for everything and anything.

            • 5 votes
            #10.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:02 AM EST
            Britlassy

            I would more more inclined to think instead of insecure... it exhibits a great deal of arrogance.

            • 2 votes
            #10.2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:17 AM EST
            Reply
            Britlassy

            President Obama's 'willingness to open up relations with the country, should not mean we use Hollywood actors as the liaisons! What I cannot figure is why they are there in the first place, with the mindset that the Iranians have about USA in general, every little issue could potentially boil over and become a political nightmare.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#11 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:01 AM EST
            MedTech

            Exactly what I was thinking. But you forget, Hollywood can work miracles and do things the average person can't do, at least they think so. It seems they forget that the movies they act in AREN'T REAL.

            • 3 votes
            #11.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:55 AM EST
            Behind My Screen

            uhh... can you read? The actors are not there as liaisons of the administration, they are there to teach film industry workshops to help Iranian artists and business people learn how to run a film industry of their own.

            the part at the end of the article about Obama wanting to open up relations with Iran was added in by the author because it was related material.

            • 5 votes
            #11.2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:07 PM EST
            Britlassy

            ... And yes I can read quite well, thank you. However, since the 'area' is so wrought with sensitivity to the western culture, I cannot imagine that President Obama was not informed and in agreement with the actors endeavours. So my general statement stands.. as they were liasions of some measure from the USA.

            • 2 votes
            #11.3 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 3:19 PM EST
            Behind My Screen

            No, they weren't, any more than any other private citizen who goes there is a liason for our government.

            Get over yourself. You want an excuse to bash Obama and he didn't even do anything here.

            • 1 vote
            #11.4 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 6:24 PM EST
            Britlassy

            Excuse me? Bash President Obama? I may not agree with his ideology, and certainly do not care for his wifes attitude. However in no way was that statement meant as a bash. And kindly, do not attack me for your suppositions. This forum is here for our exchange of OPINIONS..

            • 3 votes
            #11.5 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 6:38 PM EST
            Behind My Screen

            President Obama's 'willingness to open up relations with the country, should not mean we use Hollywood actors as the liaisons!

            maybe you should choose your words more carefully next time then.

            • 1 vote
            #11.6 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 9:16 PM EST
            Reply
            jesusitshot

            Just drop a plane load of candies and the people with an education of a five year old's running Iran will be quiet for 5 minutes. lol

            • 3 votes
            Reply#12 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:06 AM EST
            novo12Deleted
            Dan Hallo, aka, Zoilus

            If you don't like it Don't rent the video then.

            They sound like fundamentalist Christians complaining about the "Harry Potter" movies or "The Golden Compass".... the only difference between them are the ideologues they adhere to.

            • 8 votes
            Reply#14 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:11 AM EST
            jesusitshot

            Actual the books and films concerning Harry Potter is part of an Israeli plot and its due to the old hot potatoe the Star of David is of course the main sybol of witch craft. Dan Harry Potter is all ready been assessed by these five year olds.

            Yes I agree with the connection

            • 2 votes
            #14.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:32 AM EST
            Dan Hallo, aka, Zoilus

            Sorry but that is just beyond the realm of ridiculous and puts you in with the lunatic fringe dwellers.

            Please Don't agree with me, I wouldn't even let you alone with my kids.

            • 5 votes
            #14.2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:38 AM EST
            Behind My Screen

            jesusitshot,

            The star of David is not a witchcraft symbol. Wicca use a 5 point star, Jews use a 6 point star. Totally different.

            • 8 votes
            #14.3 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:10 PM EST
            jesusitshot

            Behind my Screen. There is a connection actually and some extremist clerics do use this connection in propaganda from time to time. The seal of Solomon is also connected.

            Pentagrams were used symbolically in ancient Greece and Babylonia, and are used today as a symbol of faith by many Wiccans, akin to the use of the cross by Christians and the Star of David by Jews. The pentagram has magical associations, and many people who practice Neopagan faiths wear jewelry incorporating the symbol. Christians once more commonly used the pentagram to represent the five wounds of Jesus,[1][2] and it also has associations within Freemasonry.[3]

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Solomon

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_David

            I have a small problem of wearing my own Star of David a thing I hardly do now days as the locals here in Asia think I could be a devil worshiper, sad but true. As a confirmed atheist it not that worrying but it felt un-comfortable at first not wearing the symbol, as I had not taken it off for many years.

            Dan

            Please Don't agree with me, I wouldn't even let you alone with my kids.

            Would I lie to you? lol

            Hey I am just the messenger, the writer is the one to blame oh-oh-those-sneaky-israelis Lol.

            I don't baby sit kids the sick and the screams and stamping of feet does not do much for my stress problem, lol so please, please don't offer. lol

            • 2 votes
            #14.4 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:45 PM EST
            Dan Hallo, aka, Zoilus

            You're a disseminator of propaganda with a message of lies. Words deceive as well as educate. Look up Sophistry.

            • 2 votes
            #14.5 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:54 PM EST
            Dan Hallo, aka, Zoilus

            A swastika was once used as a Jewish good luck symbol, and the Romans didn't crucify anyone with a cross until almost 200 years after Christ, so what.. they are just symbols and have no power. Oh No Please, don't sic the easter Bunny on me... I could have Mohammed's face put on on Jesus nailed to a cross and then have it tattooed on the ass of a pig and it has no power other then what it gives you. meaningless. superstitious nothing.

            • 3 votes
            #14.6 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 5:37 PM EST
            jesusitshot

            Dan like the very Swastika your giving a mirror image of the truth, tut tut, lol

            I have no need to look up sophistry as I know the art and the many followers here on the vine and elsewhere on the internet , I hate propaganda, love humor and hate attacking the messenger and not the very message it self.

            As for what I am, lets me state what I am not.

            Zionist

            Anti-sematic

            Anti-Islamic

            Racialist

            Political motivated

            Left wing or right wing

            Anti-Religious

            religious

            A sexual pervert

            Corrupt

            A liar

            indoctrinated

            Stupid

            Thus of course I am easy hurt by such assumption that I am not centerline, normal, kind, caring, non bias human being or have a lower intelligence than my accusers.

            Yes words do deceive so please be careful, sensible, peace loving and a decent human being when you use them. To me every word show the type of person they really are and also their form of indoctrination and how there minds works plus of course their motives good bad or that just trying to impress people with a superior than thou arrogant self vanity.

            As they know there own motives and characters I tend to reply to attacks upon the messenger with some amusement to show I am not impressed, not superior, not bias and just wiser through the experience of many years (15 or so to give a guess) of debate and being a moderator of my own forums etc, on the Internet.

            Dan believe me I can tell what type of person you are but I will not attack the messenger as that would show that I could not address the message sensibility because of a lack of intellect and show that i was arrogant bias individual that leads a selfish life not caring who's feelings I hurt and completely inhuman possibly thinking mad thoughts that i was some kind of super human being with the brain of a genius, the I am better than thou syndrome.

            But I would rather show that I am wise and really hate to hurt the feelings of a fellow human being and respect every bodies rights to an opinion. Trying not to be too selfish and then to be balanced and open minded.

            I am glad to see there are many people with the same approach to life and debate. But with regret I have to say those that are arrogant selfish club together to attack the sensible minded ordinary folk with open minds and bless with respect and the common decency to address the message and not their fellow messengers.

            Hatred breeds hatred and thread wars are normally started by warp minds.

            • 1 vote
            #14.7 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 9:41 PM EST
            BJK-798627

            Actually the books and films concerning Harry Potter is part of an Israeli plot...

            That's the kind of crap supporters of Iran's government gobble up.

            Out of curiosity, what part of Asia are you visiting? It doesn't sound like a developed part for sure.

            • 3 votes
            #14.8 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:12 PM EST
            jesusitshot

            BJK..

            Philippines, Hong Kong, Main land China, India, I live in Dumaguete Negros Oriental been down this way for nine years. I go back to mainline China on April fools day, no jokes please, lol

            Actual I think the story by the writer was a bit of Ironic fiction, I was amused by his article and thought I would bring a bit of humor into this debate. lol It is however the type of crap that Iran's government loves but you not the head of state the chief guru cleric stays quiet like a baby sitter seemingly being amused by the rug rats. lol

            • 1 vote
            #14.9 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:30 PM EST
            tyler

            13 deleted, two words, no contribution. Come on, novo12.

            • 2 votes
            #14.10 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 3:06 PM EST
            Reply
            sevens7777

            Screw EM'

            • 1 vote
            Reply#15 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:23 AM EST
            Adam-840879

            At what point do we stop listening to what the government of Iran thinks or does. Its all rhetoric!

            • 3 votes
            Reply#16 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:28 AM EST
            BJK-798627

            At what point do we stop listening to what the government of Iran thinks or does.

            What they think is meaningless.

            What they do is another story altogether.

            The sooner we put an end to AhmedinaNUT and the fundamentalist government of Iran, the better off the world will be.

            • 3 votes
            #16.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:07 PM EST
            Reply
            old enough

            although you choice of the verb I find hard to use I agree why do we care that they are insulted. we as women find them insulting for the way they treat their women and the must cover hair a joke,what is it that is so offensive in a woman's hair that it must be covered in the presence of men?

            • 1 vote
            Reply#17 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:29 AM EST
            take2la

            Oh yeah, are they going to chop off our collective heads now or what?

            Psycho: The name's Francis Soyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.
            Leon: Ooooooh.
            Psycho: You just made the list, buddy. And I don't like nobody touching my stuff. So just keep your meat-hooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. Also, I don't like nobody touching me. Now, any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.
            Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis.

            Stripes-1981

            • 3 votes
            Reply#18 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:41 AM EST
            graeywolf

            Thanks for the walk down Memory Lane! LOL

            • 3 votes
            #18.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:46 AM EST
            rlanantelope

            haha great movie

            doubt they'd like that one either

            • 2 votes
            #18.2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:48 AM EST
            Reply
            RDW-375737

            Send Michael Moore over there to iron things out...Maybe they will keep him...Besides that Iran can kiss my butt.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#19 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:48 AM EST
            tom sevigny

            Send Michael Moore over there duct-taped to an ICBM.

            The obese moron would probably throw off the navigation though and wobble it into a poor trajectory. Maybe a cruise missile would be more appropriate.

            • 3 votes
            #19.1 - Mon Mar 2, 2009 12:01 PM EST
            Reply
            MCLiepshutz

            And this is shocking because????????? The Iranians also wanted Obama to apologized for the cia planned coupe that installed the shah as the ruler of Iran after they democratically elected a leader(obama was prolly 12 at the time)... is it really for obama or these women to apologized for these acts.. I dun tink so..

            • 3 votes
            Reply#20 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:56 AM EST
            Behind My Screen

            Ummm... Obama was not even born yet when the Democratic government in Iran was overthrown by the CIA.

            It is for the US government to apologise for that act and Obama is the diplomatic face of that government right now.

            • 3 votes
            #20.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:12 PM EST
            Reply
            graeywolf

            excerpt from www 300spartanswarriors com.

            According to Herodotus and other historians, the Greek garrison which consisted of approximately 7,000 hoplites, 300 of whom were King Leonidas' fellow Spartiates, held off the numerically superior Persian army for several days. Several scholars, researchers and contemporary historians have conservatively estimated the invading force of Xerxes I at 200,000 warriors, comprised from a multitude of nations from the east.

            For two days, the 300 Spartans and their allies inflicted heavy losses on the invaders before their position was compromised by a Malian traitor. On the third day, rather than surrender, the remaining Spartans and the remnants of the Thespian contingent which originally numbered 700, fought to the death so that their countrymen could withdraw safely. It was their heroic self-sacrifice which inspired their Greek countrymen to subsequent victories at Salamis, Plataea and Mykale.

            Therefore, this movie pays homage to not only King Leonidas and the heroic '300' and their fight for freedom, it also pays tribute to Greece, the birthplace of democratic principles.

            • 8 votes
            Reply#21 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:56 AM EST
            dems fightin words

            Thanks Graywolf. Someone finally told it like it really was. Good post. There was also a major sea battle going on against the Persians at the same time to keep them taking flanking positions down the beach. The Greeks were out numbered in that battle also but their "sea smarts" was way above that of the Persians. The Persians geared up for a battle that they thought would take place at dawn, But the Greeks unexpectedly attacked in late afternoon and before the Persians knew what hit them, it was nightfall and they couldn't regroup for a response. The Persians may have invented chess, but they sucked a tactical warfare.

            • 2 votes
            #21.1 - Thu Mar 5, 2009 3:43 AM EST
            Scott Isaacs

            Iran can kiss my ass.

            dems fightin words:

            On the naval battle at Salamis, one reason that the Greeks waited was to catch their opponent with the sun in their eyes. Also, their smaller vessels equipped with rams gave them more maneuveribility than the Persian navy which were like sitting ducks after the Persian admiral gave the order for the Persian ships to cluster together. The Greeks cut them up in a confined area and the Persians couldn't do so much as even turn their ships to face them head on.

            As for the conflict between the Spartans and associated hoplites with the Persians, the Persians were simply not equipped for heavy warfare. Their armor was made mostly of wicker because their warring in the east had been comprised of quick strike attacks and the lightness of their shields conformed to that. When they ran head on into the Greeks their armor cracked and was cut through like paper by the Greeks' spears and short swords. An army that is predicated on maneuver to win should never engage in a battle where their forces' movement is constrained because what is light, fast and effective on an open plain turns into suicide in a bottleneck battle. The pass at Thermopylae forced Xerxes to do precisely what Leonidas wanted him to do: send his army forward against Leonidas' piecemeal which negated their numerical advantage. If Ephialtes had not shown the Persians the path around the pass the Persians would have been trying to crack through that defensive position for weeks.

            • 2 votes
            #21.2 - Thu Mar 5, 2009 4:05 AM EST
            dems fightin words

            You are correct Scott. And the Spartans weren't wearing speedos either. They had superior body armor and I believe they were the first to incorporate a sleeve into there shields along with the hand grip. Thus giving them better control of the shield and enabled them to use it for protection, and as a weapon. The Persians shields amounted to nothing more than wicker garbage can lids. And yes, Iran can kiss my ass also.

            • 3 votes
            #21.3 - Fri Mar 6, 2009 1:17 AM EST
            Reply
            Walt D

            If 300 pissed em off, the South Park parody of 300 is gonna kill em.

            • 8 votes
            Reply#22 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:00 PM EST
            Spikegary

            How about 'Meet the Spartans'?

            • 2 votes
            #22.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 7:07 PM EST
            Reply
            rick-889629

            Let me say I'm sorry your upset. Should have gone with my idea and sent in the ashault trucks and made a nice parking lot out of the entire country years ago.

            Yes... you may kiss my made in the US butt..!!!

            • 2 votes
            Reply#23 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:00 PM EST
            TackKS

            Aww, did Hollywood offend those poor 'Persian Americans'????.....Oh wait, they weren't 'Persain Americans', they were just plain Persains.

            I liked 300. It was one movie which did not present one ioda of 'white guilt'. Perhaps this is why many on the left do not like it? I mean, after all, how dare anyone with a white history, project said history in a proud manner!

            • 3 votes
            Reply#24 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST
            Behind My Screen

            white guilt? WTF are you talking about?

            • 1 vote
            #24.1 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:16 PM EST
            RDW-375737

            White guilt? Surely we are not going to start this crap again are we?

            • 1 vote
            #24.2 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 1:43 PM EST
            Reply
            Der_Denkfabrik

            my2cents. I don't see how 300 portrayed the "Greeks" as noble. King Leonidas describes most of the Greek kingdoms as "Boy Lovers" or Cowards. He includes his own kingdom in that as well(especially relying on the Decadent,diseased and corrupt priests/oracle). The stories of the Persian empire do seem decadent. Why does the Iranian Government bother with this drivel.They are the leading force in "embarrassing" the Iranian public. The Iranians I meet annually on Vacation in Asia(such warm nice folks) all say the same thing; "We just want to be like everyone else in Europe or America. Have a business,raise a family, or go to school. Just be happy". I agree. They really deserve better. Their Government is a diseased, corrupt and decadent embarrassment ( I guess many governments qualify for that).

            • 4 votes
            Reply#25 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST
            NH Tom-896720

            When in Rome, do as Romans. For those of you who think that the rest or the world has the freedom that we enjoy here WAKE UP. It is against the law in Iran for a woman to go in public without adhering to the "dress code for women" as set forth under Islamic Law. Islamic Law is the law of the land. If these women were to protest Iranian Law by not not covering their hair etc. they would be put in jail. Their Constitutional rights do not apply outside the borders of the US of A.

            Do these Hollywood, Left leaning, actresses think that the Iranian people even know who they are much less care about them? Did they think that they would be treated like Hanoi Jane when she went to North Vietnam during the war. My fellow Viet Vets know what I'm talking about.

            Yeah, let's see if Mrs. Obama will go to Iran bare armed, bare headed just to insult the Muslim people and break their law. That'll show them. I suppose you would support Mr. Obama if he were in meetings with Muslim diplomats cross his legs so as to show the soles of his shoes, or sit down at dinner with them and eat with his left hand.

            I know some of you have no idea what I'm talking about and think I'm just another delusional right wing, conservative.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#26 - Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST
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