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Messages detail friendship between engineer, teen

Wed Mar 4, 2009 6:12 AM EST
us-news, train, documents, collision, ntsb, robert-sanchez
Daisy Nguyen, Associated Press
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<p>The crash site is displayed on the screen as Wayne Workman, right, Investigator in Charge, talks during a hearing on the 2008 train collision in Chatsworth, Calif., Tuesday, March 3, 2009, at the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) in Washington. A Metrolink commuter train and a Union Pacific freight train collided on Sept. 12, 2008, killing 25 people and injuring numerous other people. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)</p>

The crash site is displayed on the screen as Wayne Workman, right, Investigator in Charge, talks during a hearing on the 2008 train collision in Chatsworth, Calif., Tuesday, March 3, 2009, at the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) in Washington. A Metrolink commuter train and a Union Pacific freight train collided on Sept. 12, 2008, killing 25 people and injuring numerous other people. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

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LOS ANGELES — Commuter train engineer Robert Sanchez and his young rail fan became fast friends with their constant chatter in text messages about their shared love of trains.

Sanchez exchanged dozens of messages with the teenage boy while driving his locomotive and even made plans to let him take the controls.

"I'm REALLY looking forward to getting you in the cab and showing you how to run a locomotive," Sanchez wrote about the plan.

But it never happened. While they texted about the final details, the Metrolink commuter train ran a red light and collided head-on with a freight train, killing 25 people and injuring at least 130 others. Sanchez died in the collision.

A transcript of the text messages released Tuesday by the National Transportation Safety Board detailed the close relationship between the two, with Sanchez acting as a mentor to the unidentified boy.

The messages revealed that Sanchez had allowed him and a friend to ride in the cab and sit at the controls four days before the crash.

"Touching the controls ... i was frothing at the mouth," the teen wrote in one text message.

They also showed that Sanchez intended to let the teen drive the train between four stations on Sept. 12, the day of the crash, even though unauthorized ride-alongs are considered a serious violation of safety regulations.

"I'm gonna do all the radio talkin' ... ur gonna run the locomotive & I'm gonna tell u how to do it," Sanchez wrote.

Sanchez sent and received 43 text messages while on duty that day, including one to the teenager about an apparent meeting place that he sent 22 seconds before the collision

The teenager told NTSB investigators that he met Sanchez last May through a group of train enthusiasts. He said he and Sanchez communicated by phone and text messages once or twice a week, mostly about train operations.

But the transcripts told a different story, showing the two stayed in close touch, calling each other and exchanging dozens of profanity-laced texts the week before the crash.

They provided frequent updates on their activities from morning to night, made jokes, gossiped about other rail fans and shared their excitement as they arranged for the boy to operate the train.

"I feel like your a cool uncle or something," the teen wrote in one message.

Sanchez appeared to relish his role as a mentor. Between discussing a work-related matter with a colleague, dealing with a flat tire and running errands, Sanchez made time to encourage the teen to pursue a career in train engineering, the text messages show.

Sanchez also opened up to him about the downsides of his profession. The engineer worked a 10 1/2-hour split shift requiring him to start at 6 a.m., take a 4 1/2-hour break in the middle of the day, and end the work day at 9 p.m.

One text indicated he was having trouble sleeping.

"i had the worst night of sleep since the fatality. tossed & turned all night," Sanchez wrote to the boy.

Sanchez's family told investigators the engineer had been upset because someone committed suicide by jumping in front of his train.

His brother, John Sanchez, declined to comment Tuesday on the latest revelations.

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Sandie Seward

Tragic, because as a railway enthusiast myself I can totally relate to this article. When I was much younger, I regularly used to go "Train-Spotting" at my local Station, and had many a cab ride in the old steam loco's.

Although, now, as a mature adult, I suppose I ought to say that the Engineer should have showed a little more "responsibility" both towards his job and his young friend.

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Reply#1 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 8:31 AM EST
diversity

That engineer had no business being so "personal" with a teenage boy. I think the train was a front to get close to him because it sounds a little more intimate than "train interests". Nobody sends 30 text messages without some kind of further connection than just a "curious passenger".

The sloppiness of the whole situation hopefully will wake up public transportation operators into not letting this happen again.

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Reply#2 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 5:38 PM EST
Sandie Seward

Diversity, if I read between your lines, I think you are implying an "unnatural" friendship between the two.

Of course it's possible, but if it wasn't that at all, but just a platonic friendship between a young boy who loved railways and a man who he probably hero-worshipped doing the job that seemed so glamorous and powerful to him, then, I think it's so wrong to read into this something that perhaps wasn't there?

It is possible for people of different generations and age groups to be friends you know, without anything sexual between them.

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#2.1 - Thu Mar 5, 2009 3:53 AM EST
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diversity

Sandie it is unnatural for a complete stranger at this day and age to be that much involved with another stranger of that in his teens. It does appear that way with amount of texting and the sexual innuendos involved in the text messages. "Touching the controls I was frothing at the mouth".........what the hell kind of text is that. ??

That man had no business going behind regulations and not clearing up this "friendship" more openly. They texted in secrecy from what I know of the story. If it is "perfectly innocent" as you may suggest, than they went about it the wrong way. This may have been acceptable behavior 20 years ago, but there are a lot more predators out there this day and age and it seems the Engineer seemed a little more eager to cater to this teen than what would seem normal.

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Reply#3 - Thu Mar 5, 2009 1:56 PM EST
Sandie Seward

I think that the Predators have always been with us, what hasn't always been with us is the recently-found openess from the Media in reporting these cases.

I still like to think that it was an innocent friendship, though.........

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Thu Mar 5, 2009 4:46 PM EST
diversity

I still like to think that it was an innocent friendship, though.........

Most people wanted to believe that also when they sent their altar boy to stay the night at the priest's house back in 50's and 60's .........look how many predatory accusations surfaced 20 years later. There clearly shows an "abnormal" obession between the teen and the train engineer. Of course this is just mere speculation.

  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Thu Mar 5, 2009 7:51 PM EST
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Darkwood

Sandie, enjoyed your article. I tend to agree with you that the friendship could be simply a shared love of trains. Diversity brings up a point that is worthy of thoughtful consideration. I doubt that many people who payed attention to this news story escaped the thought that Mr. Sanchez was baiting the boy. Whether that was the fact of the matter or not interests me less than the fact that in "this day and age" a prudent person, such as diversity, believes that it would be highly unlikely for an adult to take interest in children except as a sexual predator.

Sexual predators are out there, and there has been a reality show about luring these deeply disturbed and harmful individuals into the klieg lights for the edification and entertainment of huge audiences. The show is a little gamy for my tastes, but there is some justification for raising the level of public alarm. My question is what have we sacrificed for raising the public alarm?

Mr. Sanchez was definitely wrong in allowing the boy to make an unauthorized visit to the cab of the train. He certainly knew that to allow the boy to run the train would have lost him his job. The boy on the other hand thought of Sanchez as a "cool uncle." Unfortunately uncles are probably more notorious than priests when it comes to indecent dalliances with nieces and nephews. However, my uncles were great guys who took me to woods and the movies and taught me a lot about being a boy and a man. None of it involved anything in the least sexual. Would diversity have been suspicious of my uncles? Would I have been allowed to hang out with them in "this day and age"?

There is probably an appropriate way to interact with children which satisfies their need for adult friendship without sounding the alarm for diversity and so many others. It would include being in the open and with the knowledge of the parents. It would include not being partners in crime for all the power of that bond. It could still include frequent text messaging and sharing interests that excite both friends and it should include sharing experience and adventure which is what makes a youth grow straight and tall---and, diversity, that is not a sexual innuendo.

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Reply#4 - Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:13 PM EDT
diversity

First off - I don't think every situation where an adult befriends a young person as sexual. I think this particular case is somewhat considerable of it possibly being that way because of the secrecy of things and the contents of the text messages. I said in my last post that it was a mere speculation and it still is in my eyes a strong but mere speculation and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought it.

When I was 14 yrs old, I myself was lured into the cab of a truck owned by my Post Explorer (like boy scouts) Den Leader. He was an older married man and he tried to show me Pornographic playing cards on a camping trip and wanted me to expose myself. So I know how these so called "friendships" can turn out. I myself an am Uncle and would never even entertain the thought of something of that nature with my nephews or nieces.

If an adult wants to be friends with non-relative youth then he or she should go about it the right way and do it publicly and with parental consent. Not inviting them to drive a train in secrecy.

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#4.1 - Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:42 PM EDT
Darkwood

I am in complete agreement with you, diversity. Although I suppose I was extremely fortunate not to have experienced any even vaguely threatening episodes as a child, I have great empathy for those who have. In my job as an emergency room physician and as a worker at my community child advocacy center I have seen the ravages of this sickness. My worry, as I tried to convey above, is that we are destroying an important village connection between children and adults. I am sorry that your den leader was a pervert and I hope that the truly horrible experience that you described hasn't left you with any permanent damage.

You are right concerning the suspicious nature of Mr. Sanchez communications and I tried to say that in my post. Still it is not uncommon for a zealous response to over reach. In this case I tried to point out that Mr. Sanchez had gone beyond acceptable behavior, but that, at least until further facts to the contrary are brought out, we should not condemn him for more than we can prove. We can blame him for the carelessness involved in causing a horrendous train wreck.

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#4.2 - Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:22 PM EDT
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Sandie Seward

Mr. Sanchez, for all his responsible job, does not come over as a very "mature" individual, which is rather sad.

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:52 AM EDT
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