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NC officer: Stopping nursing home shooter 'scary'

Mon Apr 6, 2009 10:27 AM EDT
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Associated Press

In an undated file photo provided by the Carthage Police Department, Carthage Police Officer Justin Garner is shown. Garner, who stopped gunman Robert Stewart as we went on a shooting rampage in a North Carolina nursing home says he first thought the emergency call was a misunderstanding, but knew it was serious when he saw a car with shattered windows in the parking lot. Garner told NBC's "Today" show on Monday April 6, 2009, he was scared as he walked through the halls past multiple doors in search of the shooter.(AP Photo/Carthage Police Department)

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RALEIGH — A young police officer who stopped a shooting rampage that killed eight people in a North Carolina nursing home said Monday that searching the building alone for the gunman was "very scary."

Justin Garner, 25, was the only police officer on Sunday morning duty in the town of Carthage when emergency calls came in about shooting at Pinelake Health and Rehab on March 29. He told NBC's "Today" show on Monday that he first thought the report was a misunderstanding.

"When they gave me the call, they said there were some shots had been fired at the building, and I was thinking maybe somebody could be nearby shooting," possibly for target practice, Garner said.

Then he saw a car in the parking lot with the driver's window shot out and realized "something serious was going on."

He entered the nursing home alone and saw a woman in a wheelchair who had been shot.

"When I went in, like you said, there were doors, hallways, there were rooms everywhere. I was just going through. I didn't know where he was at. It was very scary. Very scary," said Garner, a past winner of his department's Officer of the Year award.

Garner said he was standing in one hallway when the gunman emerged from another hallway, about 35 yards away. He told the gunman three times to put down the shotgun that was in his hands before opening fire himself.

"He managed to get a shot off, apparently about the same time I did, because I never heard it, I never heard his gun go off," Garner said, adding that he did feel the shotgun pellets hit his leg.

Seven patients and a nurse were killed in the shooting, which ended four minutes after Garner entered the home. Robert Stewart, 45, was wounded and is charged with eight counts of first-degree murder and a single charge of felony assault of a law enforcement officer.

Stewart's estranged wife worked at the nursing home and survived the shooting by hiding in a section of the home for Alzheimer's patients that was behind a locked door. Authorities have declined to speculate on a motive but say they are looking into whether the shooting was "domestic-related."

Carthage Police Chief Chris McKenzie, who appeared on the "Today" show with Garner, said more people certainly would have died if Garner hadn't acted so quickly.

"Certainly, had Justin not done what he did, the loss of life would have been a lot greater," McKenzie said.

Garner said that realization didn't hit him until he got home that night.

"When it all first initially happened, it didn't really dawn on me until later on that night when I was home and got ready to go to bed, it really hit me pretty hard," he said.

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Tex-988483

Though I have serious problems with a militarized battle rattle clad local poleece force I tip my hat to this kid.

I listened to the police chatter that went on during this tragedy and this kid was impressive. If the time line of chatter is true this young man engaged on his own with no back up within what must have been a minute or so. Even if it is a misrepresentation of time this guy is still one gnarly feller. He could have waited and stood around for another hour while protocol and tactics discussed. No doubt more lives would have been lost.

I'm still tempted to ride over there and thank him in person. The only thing that stops me is the fact that this economic FUBAR has eliminated my livelihood and I'm afraid to use up my petrol.

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Reply#1 - Mon Apr 6, 2009 11:55 AM EDT
BeMyJellyfish

Tex,

Have you noticed that the "militarized battle rattle clad" police forces are the ones who are usually on the scene long after the victims have assumed room temperature? Or the ones standing around trying to figure out what to do? I don't blame them, but I blame their leadership, or lack thereof. There are too many people out there who are scared to death to make a decision. Too much indecision leads to inaction, which allows the body count to mount.

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#1.1 - Mon Apr 6, 2009 1:50 PM EDT
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roselilly

I saw and listened to this young man. He still seems to be in shock. This police officer walked into a battlefield by himself. He did what he had to do to stop the attack. Some will call him foolish , and be critical of his behavior. However, there is one thing we should all remember, he didn't kill. He wounded. Whoever trained this young hero should be proud of their efforts.

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Reply#2 - Mon Apr 6, 2009 12:11 PM EDT
BeMyJellyfish

Roselilly,

If he wounded, it was accidental. Police officers are taught, correctly, to shoot to kill. Attempting to shoot-to-wound is dangerous for the police officer as well as bystanders. Shoot-to-wound tricks are best left to precision snipers when trying to disarm suspects from a distance, with a precision shot.

I commend this young officer for his ACTION. Too many times, it is inaction that causes greater fatalities.

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#2.1 - Mon Apr 6, 2009 1:47 PM EDT
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patsym546

He deserves a medal for bravery. Then he deserves one for valor. He then deserves a medal for honor. Then one for courage..I could go on and on, but you get my drift. This is one brave young man, and he saved potentially many lives! Let him be an example for other young men, and other cops.

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Reply#3 - Mon Apr 6, 2009 12:28 PM EDT
take2la

With the frequency, randomity, & intensity of these types of events, we ALL better get brave.

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Reply#4 - Mon Apr 6, 2009 12:45 PM EDT
Tex-988483

BeMyJellyfish: Yup. That seems to be standard protocol. I realize the wisdom of caution, planning and tactics but sometimes you've just gotta hope the Gods are in your favor and git gone with it. Like this young man did. Again, this kid gets real high marks from me....

I've also noted that many local SWAT teams seem to have a real jihad going against our canine pards. Google "botched SWAT raids" if you wish to get depressed. Seems like it is a Conservative Think Tank site. CATO Institute I believe. At any rate, they have an interactive map of all the, well, botched SWAT raids throughout the country.

You are correct in regard to training. A double tap to center mass is standard operating procedure. Can't say as I blame them.

    Reply#5 - Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:14 AM EDT
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