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Swine flu has airports, airlines scrambling

Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:58 PM EDT
health, news, travel, only-on-msnbc-com, mexico, flu, airlines, north-america, swine, travelers
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epa01710863 A Chinese mainland tourist who failed initial temperature screening has his temperature double checked by health workers on his arrival at the International Airport in Hong Kong, China, 27 April 2009. The World Health Organization warned countries around the world on 25 April to be on alert for any unusual flu outbreaks after a unique new swine flu virus was implicated in possibly dozens of human deaths in North America. WHO Director-General Margaret Chan said the outbreak in Mexico and the United States constituted a 'public health emergency of international concern. EPA/VINCENT YU / POOL

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— The swine flu outbreak has officials in North America and around the world on their toes as they attempt to stem the disease’s transfer and impact. Airports, airlines and agencies are taking preventative measures and monitoring the traveling public for signs and symptoms.

In response to reports of more than 150 deaths in Mexico and, according to the World Health Organization, more than 100 confirmed cases in the U.S. and elsewhere with more likely to follow, the U.S. government has taken the precautionary measure of declaring a public health emergency.

The State Department on late Monday warned U.S. citizens to avoid nonessential travel to Mexico and those who live in Mexico to avoid hospitals or clinics there unless they have a medical emergency.

Cuba on Tuesday suspended flights to and from Mexico as a precaution against the spread of swine flu. The 48-hour suspension makes Cuba the first country to halt air travel with Mexico. Later in the day, Argentina announced a five-day ban on flights arriving from Mexico.

Canada, Israel and France warned citizens to avoid nonessential travel to Mexico, as well.

Cruise lines Carnival and Royal Caribbean, as well as other tour operators, are skipping scheduled stops in Mexico and Australian airports will not allow planes from North America or South America to land unless the pilot radios ahead with information about the health status of all passengers.

That means travelers heading to or from Mexico and elsewhere will need to keep up-to-date on the latest travel advisories and consider whether or not they want to change plans.

Travel agents are being inundated with calls and cancellations. Albert Ko and some friends have already scrapped plans for a June trip to Cabo San Lucas, but Michel Moore and her boyfriend are determined to go to Puerto Vallarta on May 10. “We’re both in our late 20s and considerably healthy, so we’re not overly concerned with the consequences of getting ill. My only fear is that our trip, which has been arranged since February, will be canceled at the last minute due to health concerns at the border.”

What do travelers need to know?
Specific travel advice related to swine flu is fluid and will no doubt change over coming hours, days and weeks.

For now it’s a good idea to monitor the health information and updates posted on the Web sites of CDC and the World Health Organization.

International SOS, a travel medical-assistance firm, has also created a very useful and easy-to-maneuver site specifically on this topic.

Dr. Myles Druckman, a disease and pandemic expert who works with International SOS, notes the risk of falling ill in Mexico is relatively low, but warns of delays for traveling from Mexico and other countries back to the U.S., especially if the situation intensifies.

For the time being, Druckman advises leisure travelers to have a plan in place before making trips to Mexico and to add items such as surgical masks, over-the-counter cold and flu medications and extra supplies of regular prescription medications to your first aid kit. “You would be kicking yourself if you said, ‘Heck, I’m going to go,’ and then things escalate and you’re stuck there.”

Airports and airlines taking action
Airports and airlines are also implementing precautionary measures.

At Denver International, spokesperson Chuck Cannon said: “If there is advance word of an incoming flight from Mexico with a possibly infected person aboard, the plane will be held away from the gate until Denver Health paramedics can meet the flight, examine the passenger and determine the next course of action.”

On Saturday, San Diego International began working with the San Diego County Department of Health & Human Services to put posters throughout the terminals with messages about the importance of good hygiene, including covering up coughs and washing hands.

At Los Angeles World Airports, which operates Los Angeles International and L.A./Ontario International, spokesperson Nancy Suey Castles said “nearly 200 dispensers of hand sanitizers were installed on the walls and on counters in the customs arrivals halls in the five terminals where we have international receiving flights, but we receive Mexico flights in only three of the five terminals.”

At Sacramento International, spokesperson Gina Swankie said the custodial staff has been urged to wear masks when cleaning areas in the International Building and the airport is stepping up the frequency of when it changes the air filters. “We have additional masks that can be made available should the need arrive and have a Pandemic Action Plan in place to be implemented if and when the need arises,” she said.

Over the weekend, most U.S., Canadian and Mexican carriers — including American, Continental, United, US Airways, Delta, Air Canada and Aeromexico — posted notices on their Web sites waiving change fees for travelers with scheduled flights to or from Mexico for at least the next week.

American Airlines’ Mexico Travel Policy, for example, will allow changes to tickets for travel to or from Mexico through May 6 and is allowing travelers to change their destination as well. As of Monday, airline spokesperson Andrea Huguely says, the airline has not canceled any flights relating the swine flu alerts, “nor has any agency asked us to do so.”

US Airways updated its change policies for travel to and from Mexico, according to spokesperson Valerie Wunder. “We’ve extended the date range for changes through May 8th.” Passengers can now move their itinerary up to 14 days before or after the scheduled origination date.
A lternatively, travelers can put the full value of the ticket toward a ticket for a new destination, provided they set out for that new destination within seven days of the scheduled origination date.

US Airways hasn’t canceled any flights, but Wunder said crew members are taking extra precautions, including wearing rubber gloves and using hand sanitizers during meal and beverage service.

AirTran Airways will waive change fees for passengers who wish to alter their travel scheduled to or from Cancun through May 4.
The carrier is urging those flying to be safe, “reminding both crew members and passengers that good sanitary practices are the best way to avoid getting any type of flu,” said spokesperson Christopher White.

Alaska Airlines spokesperson Bobbie Egan said Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air, which operates 16 flights a day to Mexico, are offering to waive change fees for passengers with tickets anywhere in Mexico through May 20. In addition, “passengers who wish to keep their travel dates, but rebook to another destination, will not be charged a change fee, just the difference in fare.”  The same policy applies travelers who wish to reschedule travel for after May 20.

In response to calls and customer concerns, Continental Airlines is allowing customers to re-schedule or re-route travel without penalty if they are ticketed for travel between April 24 and May 6, to or from all cities in Mexico.

On its Web site, AeroMexico is reassuring passengers that flight and ground crews must be in good health to be on duty, that food served onboard is being prepared under strict sanitary controls and that the air conditioning systems on its planes continually change the interior air by drawing in clean air. The airline is also asking passengers to fill out forms about any influenza symptoms before passing through airport security and is working with medical specialists in the airport “who are providing authorizations for boarding as needed.”

Act now or wait?
For now, all travelers with scheduled trips to Mexico and other destinations are urged to keep an eye on the news and check with their airlines, travel agents and hotels for policies on changes or cancellations to existing reservations.

Nicole Angerone and her fiancé are determined not to cancel their July honeymoon to a resort on Playa del Carmen, about 30 minutes from Cancun. “My fiancé is extremely worried about the trip and thinks we'll come back with swine flu. Both of our parents are urging us not to go. But we’re still going on our trip because we’ve been told by our travel agency that if we do cancel, we would lose all of our money.”

It’s a similar story for Cybil New and her husband, who are planning to travel to Riviera Maya, Mexico, with several family members for a wedding in early June. “The trip is already paid in full. As of today, all plans are still on. We did purchase travel insurance when we booked our trip so if we have to cancel we won't be out too much money.”

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ljmahuiki

this could not be at a worse time for America or it's citizens, it will hurt the economy more and more people will lose their jobs. How sad. Stock up America in case you have to stay in your homes for a while. A little precaution is worth a ton of worry and stress, and god knows, we have had enough worry and stress to last us a very long time.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:45 PM EDT
Consultant13Deleted
Rev G -812396

Who wants to bet that now the airliines are going to need another bail out now?

Here is another bet. The ACLU has the stones to sue for racial profile of anyone looking hispanic that may have come from Mexico..lol.

Any takers?

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:59 PM EDT
R. Ford

Just as I started to read this story, my cousin in Barbados called me through Skype. Ironically the conversation pertained to the Swine Flu. My cousin related a story to me that scares the B-jesus out of me. He said "during one of my trips to North America, I was on a bus and saw the mother of a young child wipe the child's extremely running nose with her bare hand and then hold on to a support pole. They got off at the next stop and a woman who just got on the bus, held on the to very same spot that the hand that wiped the running nose had just vacated. I don't know right now what I will use, but I can assure you that the next time I get on bus or train; I'll have something disposable to put between my hand and a pole or strap.

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:03 PM EDT
Daveinpgh

There's alot of talk about Americans traveling to Mexico, what about the millions of migrant workers coming from Mexico with the Flu. I know of one person who went to Mexico within the last 10 years, I see migrant workers everywhere, everyday, picking and handling our food, using our public transportation. Are corporations taking the proper precautions and hiring Americans to do the work?

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:05 PM EDT
marie thomson

It will hurt the American Economy a great deal--even the threat. That is one of several reasons I believe this is a weaponized virus let loose on purpose with that objective in mind. For example this is not flu season--that is several months past. Also, the DNA has not been seen before.

There is a lab that I'm aware of in the former USSR that has/had a whole floor dedicated to weaponizing bacteria and viruses (and also developing a vaccine to prevent it an/or cure it). This bug has a strange mutant combination of pig and bird viruses that could occur naturally, but by all overt signs, did not.

Who buys these weaponized bugs? The highest bidder.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:02 PM EDT
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dave g-334379

What about the planes? if someone is infected that came off the plane what are they doing to disinfect the aircraft?

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:00 PM EDT
Chris-537131

Even worse --- a friend who is a reporter at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution told me that the Honeland Security through the FAA had requested that Delta/Aeromexico stop using recirculated air on flights to and from Mexico to help keep down the spread of the swine flu virus. Delta (and Aeromexico) refused, saying that there was no way to force them to do this and if the FAA tried, Delta would keep it tied up in the courts for years --- long after the swine flu issue would have been resolved.

Doesn't seem like a big thing except that aircraft recirculate most or all of the cabin air. They do this because outside fresh air must be pre-heated by the engines prior to coming into the cabins. This reduces the efficiency of the engines. This means less gass mileage for the airliners. Recirculated air in airliners is a well-known vector of airborne disease. It usually isn't much of a problem, but occasionally as many as 80% of the passengers on a long flight will contract the same strain of rhinovirus (the common cold). This is because the virus is constantly recirculated to every seat on the airplane.

This is doubly interesting because airlines are still collecting fuel surcharges, even though fuel prices are still way down.

    #2.1 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:39 PM EDT
    marie thomson

    Our old company had a device that could be put into the airstream to eradicate bacteria and most viruses in the planes airstream. Boeing looked into it briefly but the industry was hit so hard by 9/11 and subsequent problems that they just looked the other way at anything that would cost money. This device is only hundreds to maybe a thousand per plane (size dependent). If it still exists planes should immediately be retrofit (easy) with something similar. It is not a carbon filter that plugs up and also is a biohazard in and of itself to those removing it.

    Don't know if the company is still around.

    • 1 vote
    #2.2 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:13 PM EDT
    marie thomson

    My Doctor said there is a documented account of a flight from Alaska with one woman on board with regular old flu and when they traced the outcome, 85% of the passengers were infected.

    This must stop now. If the airlines won't do something about it and just threaten to tie it up in court, the government certainly has the authority to deny airport access to all those who will not comply immediately.

    By the way, a lot of studies have been made on health problems of air line attendants due to poor air quality. The sam fuel efficiency issue that prevents bringing in more outside air also leads airlines to keep levels of oxygen low. One survey revealed that pilots were actually rewarded for cutting fuel costs at the expense of the passengers in both these ways. Greedy greedy greedy.

    • 1 vote
    #2.3 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:17 PM EDT
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    Fraustbyte

    As all of this goes on, hundreds if not thousand of people die each day from the effects of cigarette and second hand cigarette smoke.  Don't you think this is of pandemic  concern?  The world needs to get the priorities of health  in order.  Anyone and everyone knows that the mexican condition is FILTHLY.  What happened to an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Or is this just a slow news month???

      Reply#3 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:31 PM EDT
      beenthere-989011

      What about potential carriers? This does nothing to screen if someone is newly infected and not yet showing symptoms.

      I agree, this could not come at a worse time. I agree with all 3 previous posts on their opiinions, too.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#4 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:22 PM EDT
      marie thomson

      Viruses are most contagious right before symptoms manifest.

      • 1 vote
      #4.1 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:18 PM EDT
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      EENAR

      I'm not too worried I am a agoraphobic...kidding, but I was thinking didn't spring break just end and all college kids go to Mexic , so this could be bad.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#5 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:03 PM EDT
      Ms Spirituality

      Looks like a pandemic is coming...how many went undetected that probably just caught the virus by the passenger that was next to them on the flight?... How many more spreading it at airports to travellers and airport staff? How many of those infected spread it to the cab driver on their way home? How many people did that cab driver spread it to before realised?These are just examples, but highly probable...and the virus continues to spread....

      Load up on food....enjoy a home vacation....good luck to all of us

      • 2 votes
      #5.1 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:20 PM EDT
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      ADifferentBG

      ...Michel Moore and her boyfriend are determined to go to Puerto Vallarta on May 10. “We’re both in our late 20s and considerably healthy, so we’re not overly concerned with the consequences of getting ill. My only fear is that our trip, which has been arranged since February, will be canceled at the last minute due to health concerns at the border.”

      So the jerks don't care if they bring it back and give it to all the other 150 or so people on the plane, some of them young or elderly who could die from it. I say cancel their d*mned trip.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#6 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:08 PM EDT
      Chris-537131

      A point about this swine flu is that it seems to be following one very scary part of the 1918 flu pandemic. It is attacking women in their 20's and men in their 20's and 30's and it is there that it is causing the most deaths. Remember that the mortality among soldiers in 1918 was much higher than in the general civilian population. This was despite soldiers being considered among the most healthy of the healthy --- best age group, best nutrition, best physical conditioning, best medical care (for the time.)

      I had wondered why this was until I heard an epidemiologist on TV explain why it is hitting the young and healthy so much harder. Infants do not have well-developed immune systems and tend to respond slugglshly. This works well for the relatively mild swine flu and they get over it with little trouble. Older people have had the flu and have not only some little immunity but also their immune systems act a little sluggishly. Unless they have complications, they are getting over it pretty well. Young people, on the other hand, have absolutely zero immunity to this virus and have a well-developed and well-tuned immune system. Their immune system then reacts with a full-court press --- and this over-the-top immune response floods the lungs and causes very serious pneumonia.

        #6.1 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
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        Beatriz

        Prepared by USA labs. Go figures

        • 1 vote
        Reply#7 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:14 PM EDT
        WILDWONDERFUL

        More reasons to ship all illegals back now

        • 2 votes
        Reply#8 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:28 PM EDT
        Jean-721732

        These are the new hot jobs. Airline Security Tongue and Ear Wax Swabber. Okay, it ain't glamours, but it's work. Where do I apply?

        • 1 vote
        Reply#9 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:31 PM EDT
        ShadowXX

        EEEEWWWWWWW...

        However you'll need a background check back to before conception

          #9.1 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:04 PM EDT
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          Joseph-540297Deleted
          dans-1012635Deleted
          dam tired of this

          Bet your bottom, something else is going on behind the scenes!

          Let's see:

          The government just took a majority stake in GM, Obama told Harry Reid "I have a gift" after giving a speech, Central Mexico had a 6.0 earthquake, Washington scared the hell out of NYC residents with a low flying airplane that sent people running into the streets......Maybe this is a lesson in how to create world panic!

          So, What's going on that they don't want us to know about?

          • 3 votes
          Reply#12 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:51 PM EDT
          Mikey_likey

          Central Mexico had a 6.0 earthquake

           LOL!!! Obama must have gotten hold the C.I.A.'s top secret earthquake machine.

          Strong post!

          • 1 vote
          #12.1 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:01 PM EDT
          Jean-721732

          dam tired of this, that low flying plane in Manhattan today was confirmed as a major military contractor's photo for a marketing brochure. The President already gave them hell, and they probably won't get the contract and that company's Marketing Director is probably in big trouble. All is well about that behind the scenes issue.

            #12.2 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:10 PM EDT
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            Laura-766785

            All that I can think about after reading this is I have no desire to fly any time soon. Considering a person that has been exposed/infected may have no symptoms today and sitting on that plane, passing around the stuff by just breathing normally, then comes down with the symptoms the next day. Meanwhile, that airplane is little more than a giant incubator of germs, and the people on board are the recipients......this isn't going to be pretty folks. (Healthwise or economically)

              Reply#13 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:55 PM EDT
              Dagney Taggart

              I'm not as scared of the airliners as I am of the subway and bus system here in Los Angeles. They are insanely filthy. I am going to take my car wherever I need to go, regardless of whether I am in gridlock for hours.

                Reply#14 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:23 PM EDT
                wtf-780172

                I flew to NC in December. I became ill with what I thought was simply bronchitis. I managed it with OTC meds and returned home to Massachusetts within 6 days.

                Upon touching down in Connecticut, my symptoms became worse. I am a considerate traveler, and was very cautious about coughing, touching, etc.

                I was hospitalized that night. BLOOD WAS DRAWN. I was told it was to check my white count to verify prescription for antibiotics! THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I WAS EVER TESTED when I went to a hospital complaining of nasal and chest congestion. I was then grilled of my travel arrangements, who where what when how long.

                I contend the CDC KNEW ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR.

                I was issued a HEAVY dose antibiotic, and it took over 10 days for me to feel human again. I am 39 years old, excellent health, and rarely if ever get a sniffle. This knocked me down in 3 days.

                  Reply#15 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:28 PM EDT
                  Jean-721732

                  2008

                  some evil scientist got ticked off with the military cuts, took their stash and moved to Mexico.

                    #15.1 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:02 PM EDT
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                    a.w.riddels, BIOT

                    is noone going to mention that we need to secure our borders NOW! or is the immigrant vote more important than American lives.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#16 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:53 PM EDT
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                    hurricaneharry-1059988

                    I was on a flight from Portland to Dallas that got diverted to Salt Lake City due to a medical emergency on Sunday. The passenger came to the back of the plane as we lifted off complaining of a stomach ache and was allowed into the rest room during takeoff. After some time she emerged and went to the front of the plane. Minutes later a request for a doctor came over the speakers. Then minutes later an announcement of the diversion to Salt Lake City. Upon landing she was able to exit the plane unassisted. A paramedic came to the back of the plane to sample the rest room. It all makes me a little nervous. Should the airline have info on the patient and her outcome?

                      Reply#17 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:59 PM EDT
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                      bepatient

                      Homeland Security at a code orange over the Swine Flu yet or what? I hate to say it folks, but I never did go and buy that duct tape and the plastic to cover my house with either. Maybe now would be a good time. I might even get on the news for being the most ultra paranoid. Seriously, all those pictures of people wearing masks just gives everybody the creeps too. Here is some information for you, that virus won't even get slowed down by that piece of cloth. That virus passing through that cloth would be like a fly buzzing through a jumbo jet hanger right before it gets to your face.

                      I feel like this event was over sensationalized.

                        Reply#19 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:04 PM EDT
                        Female Vet 43

                        I work for a Japanese auto parts manufactuer and my plant manager and parts manager (American) along with two Japanese managers went to Tokyo a few years ago. The Americans came home ill with the flu. Within 4 days, 3/4's of the plant was down with it, it was so infectious and had spread so fast. It was not your typical Type A or Type B Flu that runs through the States. It was an Asian flu the doctors don't normally see. It was almost a month before the plant was back to full capacity because it went through the families after it went through the workers. It went through the QC lab, where I work, in 1 day.

                        If this swine flu is as infectious and moves as fast as that flu was, we are in deep sh!t.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#20 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:30 PM EDT
                        fight

                        well they say this is similar to the spanish flu that killed 40 million people back in 1920 not looking good.

                        • 1 vote
                        #20.1 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:32 PM EDT
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                        fight

                        this could get real ugly, just when we thought the economy was our peoblem , this could be the nail in the coffen for our country.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#21 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:30 PM EDT
                        Dagney Taggart

                        Only if there is widespread panic, placing blame where it doesn't belong and false rumors.

                        Oops... too late.

                        • 1 vote
                        #21.1 - Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:23 AM EDT
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                        cm-390342

                        Maybe now the airlines will clean their planes. The seats, arm rests, tray tables, rest rooms are filthy!!!! People worry about breathing the air on a plane, well, touching anything on the plane is a big reason for becoming ill. Take a good look around the next time you are on a plane............

                          Reply#22 - Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:50 PM EDT
                          Bernie-294418

                          It's all Bush's fault!!!

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#23 - Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:21 AM EDT
                          Nick Magdaleno

                          close the freakin borders- start there dummys..for 72 hrs.. or 96 hrs.. with full exams on mexicans coming into the usa.. ill guess we start this after a few hundred die.. wake up- america- email your congressman-assemblyman.. stop this nonsense in its tracks..at the border!... no im not racist- im a 53 yr old mexican american..american first. its like a bad movie-- and we all know truth is stranger than fiction..in many cases..get with it folks.. or stay home..

                            Reply#24 - Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:29 AM EDT
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                            Bonnie Mendez

                            The one question I ask myself is why the hell they can't check the passengers before they go on the plane so that they can avoid getting other people sick too. The airports should check the passengers before they board the plane and after too in case they missed something before they boarded. Just something to think about.

                              Reply#26 - Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:30 AM EDT
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