GOP: Obama's first 100 days all spending, taxing

You got it their motto is if we say it enough some people as stupid as we are will believe it. The simulus was needed and appears to be working. Bush spent about the same amount on bailing out the bankks so why not average Americans? The budget is only slightly more than Bush's last budget and this one includes funding for the war drawdown and Bush's did not!

These boneheads should take a gander at the recent polls. Obama is not the one sliding into oblivion! They are and it appears they only have a one track mind. Tax cuts for the rich! This lady need to get some new ideas and a nose job!

Well since they crashed everything we are supposed to think they have the brains to fix it. I pass on that.

This is their new motto.....Flood the message boards..... You see it here.... The poll on Obamas first 100 days ...... Did you know you can clear your cache and vote as many times as you wish? Well that was brought to the attention of staff and it was reported they said it was ok to do that,

"We will lose on legislation. But we will win the message war every day, and every week, until November 2010," said Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., an outspoken conservative who has participated on the GOP message teams. "Our goal is to bring down approval numbers for [Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and for House Democrats. That will take repetition. This is a marathon, not a sprint

logdump (you gotta love that name) said "The simulus was needed and appears to be working."

I listen to Bloomberg radio every day on my way to work. The market is like a "taffy pull", the naysayers they interview are telling us the recession is going to last for years. The optimists (like me) see the bottom and the green shoots are starting to appear. April was the best month in the market in the past 9 years. The market recovers about 6 to 8 months ahead of the economy. Look for strong signals the stimulus is working. Their message is baseless and is a known failure. The 14,000 Dow of last year was a house of cards it was a bloated fake market. It is now adjusting to a true strong economic indicator.

Is it me or does this woman look like a crazed version of Katie Couric?

As for what she said.... really who cares?

The Republican pugnants are like just one of the octuplets screaming for attention over the other ones cueing.

I didn't really want to say anything about anyones looks as uglee as I am. But the tip of her nose reminds me of something...

Who wants to hear the "Grand 'Ol Party" play Dixie one more time?

The party heads throw out one-line statements ... and what really concerns me is that some people actually listen to their nonsense. It would be more productive to listen to the ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic than to madam Jenkins.

The night they burnt ole Dixie down...

i saw the poll done here. a big F!

The GOP continues to move away from reality and toward their own version of heaven. Let them drift.

Yeah...the nose on that woman makes her look like Karl Malden in drag.

Is it me or does this woman look like a crazed version of Katie Couric?

You're quite right. It's actually Katie's prize fighting twin - Lynn "The Bruiser" Couric also known as "The Tea-bag Punch".

I didn't really want to say anything about anyones looks as uglee as I am. But the tip of her nose reminds me of something...

You know Wiseguy, I did not notice at first; but now that you mention it. Wow, what a horrible position for a phallic symbol.... and she is all teeth

CC - So Jenkins is for taking less of our money and stopping waste... Gosh... that would suck.

Raven Watch, I second your motion!

Thank goodness and thank the voters for President Obama...

May all he does show the Republican Party to work with all of us..

or the Republicans may be the ones receiving unemployment checks!

President Obama, we are with you, in these dire times, may we turn

this economy around...fast!

Yes we Will

Arlene in Seattle

And the really bad news is there are quite a few more 100 days before the Obama, Reid, Pelosi problem can be mitigated or cured.

when they are past the 2920 days of Bush/GOP mismanagement they should be thrown to the wolves...until then they are on equal time

Hose -

I have to say - when I read your first paragraph (before I read your second one) I though you were talking about the 100 days leading up to November of last year.

Yeah, Obama did get a head start on screwing things up as a Senator in the Reid/Pelosi Congress machine for the 2 years before he took the helm. Thanks for reminding me.

Hosethemdown got the message from Mr. McHenry to do is "message team" work today.

"We will lose on legislation. But we will win the message war every day, and every week, until November 2010," said Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., an outspoken conservative who has participated on the GOP message teams. "Our goal is to bring down approval numbers for [Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and for House Democrats. That will take repetition. This is a marathon, not a sprint

Bringing down Pelosi's and Reid's approval numbers? Is that possible? The entire Congress's approval rating is <20%. They do have kids who will be loyal no matter how stupid or destructive they are. And Obama will bring down the Democrat party. No one who loves America wants irresponsible spending, borrowing and taxation, the Obama plan.

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Oh, I don't know - let's look at who was taxed, where the money that was spent actually went, and who we borrowed from.

Oh, I don't know - let's look at who was taxed, where the money that was spent actually went, and who we borrowed from.

Sorry, forgot that.

That's why I'm Libertarian/libertarian.

How would this be any different than Bush's 8 years in office?

Let's say Obama is not different. How about the left light into Obama like they lit into Bush over it. Where's the "change". The right rejected McCain because of the expected growth of government under McCain. We fussed over the growth of government and spending under Bush, all done with the blessing of the left. If Bush and Obama are the same, treat Obama the same -- disrespect and destroy him, continue the mission started against Bush.

The left has a colon impaction. Obama is fighting the same wars, spending the same and more money, spying on its citizens with the same programs as Bush, but now the left is ecstatic to have Obama. Brain dead.

We fussed over the growth of government and spending under Bush, all done with the blessing of the left.

Are you implying that 'we' are the Republicans/conservatives? If so, are you saying that the Republicans/conservatives 'fussed over the growth of government and spending under Bush'? Are you saying that 'the left' supported ('blessed') the growth of government and spending under Bush?

... disrespect and destroy him, continue the mission started against Bush.

Continue the mission started against Bush - by who? The 'right'? If I interpret your previous statement correctly, then it was they (the Republicans/conservatives) who 'fussed' against Bush. Otherwise, if the 'left' actually started the mission to disrespect and destroy Bush - how is it that his actions were done, as you say, 'with the blessing of the left'?

Conservatives opposed many Bush policies. The left hated Bush, his family, his supporters, conservatives, and the horse Bush rode in on, and tried to destroy them all in most malicious ways. If you want to see how the left treated us, just watch how we treat Obama, his family, his supporters, liberals, and the horse Obama rode in on. If it was good for the goose, it must be good for the gander. I've had enough of being nice to trash.

Conservatives opposed many Bush policies.

Throw me a bone here - post a link or otherwise provide some sort of support for this statement. Which of Bush's policies did the conservatives oppose? The wars, the Patriot Act, No-Child-Left-Behind, which ones? How did they oppose them - demonstrations, marches, votes against them in Congress, resignations in protest? Give me at least two or three examples so I'll know what you're talking about.

The left hated Bush ...

Well, I'll give you that one. However, I don't think 'the left' hated his family, or some of the other folks you mention. I know I didn't - and you'd probably list me amongst those of 'the left'. Besides, you still haven't cleared up the apparent contradiction in your statement. If 'the left' hated Bush so much - how can you claim that they 'blessed' his growth of government and spending? Seems to me that you're just bent on hating some folks, and are willing to make whatever statements seem to support your hatred - regardless of whether they are internally consistent.

I've had enough of being nice to trash.

Maybe I'm being overly-harsh, but call me skeptical - I'd be very surprised if you ever were.

Medicare part D, Illegal immigrant amnesty, the Kennedy authored education program, the bailouts. My how inattentive some people are.

My how inattentive some people are.

If by 'some people' you mean me - I'll have to give you that one. I can't speak for others, but I can admit to being inattentive to these sorts of things.

However, I've taken some time to look into the policies you mention (or, at least, one of the policies). It turned out to be very, very long, but fascinating - so I won't go into the others.

Medicare Part D

When President Bush signed the Medicare drug prescription law in 2003, describing it as "the greatest advance in health care for America's seniors," he was criticized because the plan could prove to be hugely costly and someday end up wrecking the Medicare budget. [source]

So - it seems like Bush liked the new law, which means I assume that it was one of his 'policies' that you claim conservatives 'fussed about'. I did an Internet search for "Medicare Part D critics".

"Critics of the Medicare prescription-drug benefit on the right and left have seized on the same numbers to brand the program a failure, even as the Bush administration and congressional Republican leaders trumpet it as a boon to seniors and the governing party.

Conservatives who opposed the expansion of an already massive federal entitlement and liberals who complained that it did too little help the needy ..."

and

"Conservatives have regarded the drug benefit, enacted in 2003, as anathema to conservative ideals, but Republican congressional leaders have embraced it."

[source for both of the above quotes]

This seems encouraging, and certainly seems to support your point, but what did those critics do to affect Bush's policy? Why is there a distinct difference drawn between "conservatives" and "Republicans"?

The article goes on to say:

"To win support from the skeptical Republican rank and file, the White House and congressional Republican leaders assured lawmakers that the program provided its highest benefits to those in the low-income category who did not have other coverage."

Of the folks commenting on the legislation that were identified by party:

Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA) wrote a letter to the Centers for medicare and Medicaid Services expressing concern about Part D.

To the contrary, I find:

"The Medicare Part D Prescription Drug Plan is a win-win for American seniors," House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R) said last week." [source]

Ultimately, the Mediare Modernization Act was passed by the House [220 (16-D, 204-R) - 215 (189-D, 25-R, 1-I)] and by the Senate [54 (11-D, 43-R) - 44 (35-D, 9-R)]. It was close - it looks like the conservatives really did, as you say, 'fuss' about this bill. 7.8% of the Democrats and 89% of the Republicans voted to pass it in the House; 23.9% of the Democrats and 82.7% of the Republicans voted to pass it in the Senate. It looks like the 'fussers' caved. But why? - how did it pass?

"One month later, the ten-year cost estimate was boosted to $534 billion, up more than $100 billion over the figure presented by the Bush administration during Congressional debate. The inaccurate figure helped secure support from fiscally conservative Republicans who had promised to vote against the bill if it cost more than $400 billion. It was reported that an administration official, Thomas A. Scully, had concealed the higher estimate and threatened to fire Medicare Chief Actuary Richard Foster if he revealed it. By early 2005, the White House Budget had increased the 10-year estimate to $1.2 trillion.[source]

So - how did the Bush Administration get the bill signed? They lied about its coverage and they lied about its cost - and they told those lies to their own conservative/Republican base! Yet - you can continue to support Bush and his 'policy' of lying. Incredible. Yes, it really is amazing how inattentive some people are.

The photographer must have been a white man.

Since I sent so late (April 15th) again, I have not seen yet.... but this is the 1st time I am not paying state taxes and I have 2 Xs the amount coming back this year. So much for Obama taxing me to death.... btw I made over 35K last year. (with overtime)

Let's see ... I got the LARGEST tax return in all my 32 years on this earth

That ignorant statement alone was a stopper. If you got a big refund from your tax return, it just means you grossly overpaid your estimated taxes. That display of geniushood is a disqualifier from participation in discussions requiring judgment and informed reason.

Let's see ... I got the LARGEST tax return in all my 32 years on this earth

That ignorant statement alone was a stopper. If you got a big refund from your tax return, it just means you grossly overpaid your estimated taxes. That display of geniushood is a disqualifier from participation in discussions requiring judgment and informed reason.

...some one needs to hose you down.

That would be The One, The Hoser in Chief, Obamessiah, hosing me and America down.

It's actually people like you, Hose, that's hosing America down.

Sorry to be blunt, but it's true.

It was conservatives who fled their homes in Europe to come to this land and found America. It was Obama supporter's kind who drove them from their homes. It is Obama supporter's kind who ruined Europe and forced millions to flee to stay alive and have a chance for freedom and liberty, no longer available in Europe. It is Obama's suppoerter's kind who are trying their best to turn America into a super-Europe, thinking the freedom and liberty America enjoys is unfair. They want to make sure the heavy hand of a central planning Obama-style government is there to guide everyone from birth to death to make it fair.

If Obama, Reid, and Pelosi get their way, we maight as well change the name of the country because it won't be America anymore. We should do like other tyrants and change names to honor the tyrant succeeding in the overthrow.

Whatever Hose. Keep daydreaming about the day that you wish Obama turns this country into a "socialist" country and scream "I TOLD YOU SO!" instead of doing something about this.

It is all those "new policies" that have caused our problems. Those "new policies" are the same old socialism policies that have been around for centuries. It just seems like new policies to Obama supporters because they have no knowledge of the past. They are born too smart to need to learn.

OK Hose.

Everytime I read someone ranting on NV about the awful things the Democrats are doing, I've started to ask them a simple question. I haven't gotten an actual answer from anyone of your stripe yet, so here is your chance, your moment to shine, an opportunity to shut all of us dumb-ass Liberal/Socialist idjits up.

It's really simple.

Ready?

What's your plan?

My plan is undo the government intrusions that caused the problems, shift all but the duties and powers specifically delineated in the Constitution back to the states and the people, and quit pitting Americans against Americans.

Federal government coercions of bad business practices and protection of poor judgment (obviously unsustainable) caused the economic decline, instability, and ongoing uncertainty that is worsening the recession/depression.

Quit taxing the economy into submission.

Insist on personal responsibility.

Do everything to bring business to America rather than chasing it away -- lower corporate tax rates, for one, to the lowest or second lowest rather than the second highest.

Encourage domestic energy production of all kinds rather than raising energy costs and shutting down availability.

Stop the bailout BS. Capitalism with some basic morals and ethics guidance (i.e. limited regulation) and enforcement will work out any bugs.

Get rid of the intrusive, punitive and manipulative income tax and substitute the Fair Tax.

That's a start. Trumps the Obama plan for federal governmentization of the private sector using the crisis his team caused to install an authoritative, overbearing, and Constitution-ignoring oligarchy.

undo the government intrusions that caused the problems, shift all but the duties and powers specifically delineated in the Constitution back to the states and the people, and quit pitting Americans against Americans.

It's a lack of oversight that has allowed this situation to come into being in the first place. Unfortunately, the states depend on monies from the Fed which always (Rep. or Dem) comes with strings. It is overly simplistic when states are interdependent upon each other for so many things to try to keep Federal regulation out. (i.e. interstate highway system, commerce, etc.) It's a pleasant daydream, but out of touch with reality.

Federal government coercions of bad business practices and protection of poor judgment (obviously unsustainable) caused the economic decline, instability, and ongoing uncertainty

The Federal Government didn't force anyone to leverage assets way beyond any sane expectation of a positive return. It's called greed. It has been shown time and time again that it's a lack of oversight that caused the problem. Ever since the words "trickle down" were uttered, we've been on this path.

Quit taxing the economy into submission.

Insist on personal responsibility.

Yup, taxes suck. I could live ever so much further above my means if I paid way less of them. Of course, then we need to figure out who is going to pay for Social Security, Medicare, the Armed Forces, etc., etc.

Personal responsibility? You can't legislate morality.

Do everything to bring business to America rather than chasing it away -- lower corporate tax rates, for one, to the lowest or second lowest rather than the second highest.

Are you aware of how many of our largest corporation pay no taxes at all because of loopholes? How about the outsourcing of jobs to foreign countries by those same companies. Do you really believe that maximization of profits by outsourcing offshore would disappear if greedy companies paid less in taxes?

Sorry Hose, but I think that is just naive. As I (and folks far wiser than I ) have said, you can't legislate morality.

Stop the bailout BS. Capitalism with some basic morals and ethics guidance (i.e. limited regulation) and enforcement will work out any bugs.

How do you propose to solve the current problems that were caused by a lack of the very things you propose?

We're paying the piper the cost of eight years of Republican mis-management. I'm not saying that the Democrats are blameless, but can anyone honestly say that the Republicans were blindsided by this? And if they were, why should anyone trust them to run the show? You can't have it both ways. In your first step you take authority away from the Fed to give it back to the States, then you expect the Fed to step in and regulate?

Encourage domestic energy production of all kinds.

Great. Now repeat after me, "oil is not renewable, burning anything causes pollution". Now tell me how promotion of domestic energy isn't part of the current administrations plan.

Trumps the Obama plan for federal governmentization of the private sector using the crisis his team caused to install an authoritative, overbearing, and Constitution-ignoring oligarchy.

See. Now this is the part were I lose all respect for you all over again. Please explain how Obama caused all of this before he even got into office? This is where the Repubicans lose it every time. Nice try though. Up till here it was a more intelligent response than I've seen from most Reps. and Teabaggers.

It's a lack of oversight that has allowed this situation to come into being in the first place.

Is incompetent and corrupt Democrat oversight that caused the problem.

We can't legislate morality, of course, but we can create a penalty for activities deemed immoral or unethical, the root of most laws.

Obama was in the Senate, the Democrat controlled Senate, for two years of Democrat control. He did squat to help this country then, and he's doing the same squat now. To assign zero responsibility for Democrats in their two year reign is a self-serving denial.

And you, personally, assign exactly how much responsibility to Republicans, who have controlled two out of three branches of the government for roughly 25 of the last thirty years?

You know, for the sake of honesty and clarity.

Because I see an awful lot of squawking on your part about the Democrats, and absolutely none about the Republican causes of our current mess.

I squawk at Republicans at election time, the only time poiticians listen. I squawk at Democrat supporters year-round, because they yack year round.

I am forced to pick either Republican or Democrat if my vote is to have any effect. I am conservative first. Neither party has had a conservative since Reagan, and none before Reagan in my lifetime. Did Reagan do some less than conservatives things? Sure. He was dealing with a Democrat Congress and he did compromise. Have Democrat Presidents done good things? Sure, in compromise with the Republican Congress.

What good freedom and liberty loving American wouldn't squawk about both parties? They all sit up there trying to think of new legislation that can get passed, like their job is to make new laws, volume over quality, rarely simply reworking, fine tuning, or discarding the existing ineffective, outdated, or failed legislation.

Senator Obama was ONE VOTE and you lay responsibility for the fiscal crisis at his feet?

Just think about that, tell your therapist about it, then let us know which loony bin to send the get well card to.

So the answer to my first question was "none"? Thanks. I thought as much, but it helps to have it confirmed.

If you want to say the leader of the Democrat party, the leading contender for Democrat President candidate, had no responsibility for anything ever while a Senator, go ahead. That would make him the most inept, worthless dolt politician ever. So you might be right.

If that had been what I had wanted to say, Hose, then that is exactly what I would have said.

If your comprehension of the English l language were even passable, you would have understood that I was asking you a question. (the question mark would have been your first clue) You apparently believe that Senator Obama's lone vote carried far more weight than any other Senator, Rep. or Dem. because you blame him and him alone for the shape the economy is in. You and you alone on this seed are blaming one person. He is responsible for his votes, as you are responsible for your words. Your apparent belife that one Sentor's vote trumps the President is very revealing of your ignorance.

Don't bother to respond. You have proven that you are a vitriolic, partisan, hate spewing, contemptable person who has issues with reality and a frightening lack of self-awareness.
Good luck with that.

Don't bother to respond. You have proven that you are a vitriolic, partisan, hate spewing, contemptable person who has issues with reality and a frightening lack of self-awareness. Good luck with that.

I think you need more proof.

Wildcard -

"... billions given to GM and now they are still going under and the money will never be recouped."

Where do you think this money is? Do you think that GM has it in a bank account? "Recouped" by whom? By the government - or by the American people? From whom? It's my understanding that the money that was given to GM was used, among other things, to pay workers, to pay creditors (who in turn paid their workers), to help consumers finance car purchases [source]. The money has been returned to the people. Thus, to my way of thinking, the money has already been 'recouped'.

"The country is bankrupt because of this “stimulus” and people are still losing jobs and homes every day."

"BHO has not as yet nor is there any sign of his helping this country in any way ..."

The country is not bankrupt. If you don't believe me - ask Ben Stein, who said as much in a Fox News video (see Msg #18.1).

People are still losing jobs and homes every day, but that's not due to the stimulus package 'not working'. The stimulus package hasn't even begun to kick in yet. Did you think that the entire $870 billion (or whatever the amount is) was sent out FedEx the evening that Obama signed the Bill? If so - then re-think things. Take a look at the www.Recovery.gov web site. You'll see that the government agencies - whose responsibility it is to distribute the funds - have barely started. For example:

US Small Business Administration
Funded amount: $58,225,101
Disbursed so far: $11,632,497
Percent disbursed so far: 20

US Department of Housing and Urban Development
Funded amount: $4,534,686,328
Disbursed so far: $231,721,323
Percent disbursed so far: 5

US Department of Education
Funded amount: $17,683,347,545
Disbursed so far: $349,593,009
Percent disbursed so far: 2

US Department of Transportation
Funded amount: $9,342,651,744
Disbursed so far: $31,165,668
Percent disbursed so far: 0.33

US Environmental Protection Agency
Funded amount: $1,811,131,239
Disbursed so far: $639,481
Percent disbursed so far: 0.035

My state (Virginia) received 9,000 proposals for the money they are to receive. The due date for the proposals was March 15 (or so). They haven't even been reviewed yet - much less the monies awarded and distributed. My county (Shenandoah) has yet to see a penny of the funding. Things take time - it doesn't mean that they're not working, or won't work.

"Now, I don’t care what the polls say, most of them are made up and doctored by both sides,..."

Then it probably would be best if you didn't cite them as proof of a point you're trying to make.

"The man is a dismal failure and a poor excuse for a leader, not an opinion, a shown fact, ..."

Look at who you're talking about - the President of the United States. I'd hardly consider someone who has achieved that position as a 'failure'. What have you done lately? He must have been able to lead some folks - over 50 million if I recall correctly. A 'fact'? Hardly. Pure opinion.

The country is not bankrupt.

But it has an excellent chance of getting there with everything you cite above.

Everyone of those organizations should be put out of their misery and everybody fired due to incompetence and corruption.

I just heard on some news station that someone is proposing ...

Please do better than that. I just did an Internet search for anybody saying that we should bail out Mexico as a result of Swine Flu damages. I found no source whatsoever. Apparently, the Internet is not aware of anybody making such a proposal.

I see that you posted exactly the same comment on the recent Warren Buffett article. It is off-topic there as much as it is off-topic here.

Please provide more specific details when making such outrageous statements. Otherwise, your posts seem to take on a 'troll-ish' aspect.

2TailPuppy -

Aha! Found it! I looked at the Fox News web site and found a link to a video titled "Time to Bail Out Mexico?" (center of right-hand column, under FOX NEWS VIDEOS).

The proposal to 'bail out' Mexico was from Ben Stein. He portrayed the U.S. as being 'the Dad' - with countries to the south of us being, I suppose, 'the kids'. "Bail Out" was actually Cavuto's (?) words - what Stein was proposing was more like aid, since Stein mentioned only providing money for things like 'gauze masks' - which he said weren't very expensive. He did mention losses in tourist business, but he said that those costs were small, and that they were likely to be short-lived.

He also mentioned that aid to countries south of our border were 'almost always' paid back.

Good catch - you must have sharp eyes and are a fast reader. I always found those scrolling things annoying since they keep me from focusing on what's being said.

Ben Stein generally has some good ideas until he gets into his religious rants when he loses all rationality. I don't know if I like this one though???

...along with name-calling, obstructing, and lots of amusing in-fighting. The GOP has been reduced to the equivalent of a dysfunctional family whose only purpose in life is to make their more successful neighbors as miserable as they are.

You'd be upset too if your country was controlled by the likes of the Deliverance family demanding you squeal like a pig while politically committing a forcible rear entry on you.

Uhm, I live in a place that's heavily filled with gun-loving republicans, and they despise obama's guts. My parents and family friends are the only ones who seem to have voted for him in our area...but Oregon still went blue :)

Plus, my area is filled with either poor people, or the few middle classes (raises hand). We voted for Obama because we liked his policies over McCain's. Had McCain been like his 2000 self, we might've voted. But Obama's in office now, so whoo.