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Buffett says government is doing the right things

Sat May 2, 2009 9:41 AM EDT
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Josh Funk, AP Business Writer
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<p>Berkshire shareholders Donald Chou and his seven year-old son Brent use a hand sanitizer as precaution against Swine flu, at the annual Berkshire Hathaway shareholders meeting in Omaha, Neb., Friday, May 1, 2009. Warren Buffett's famed Woodstock for capitalists begins Friday with various official and unofficial events. About 35,000 shareholders are expected to participate in Berkshire Hathaway's annual meeting Saturday despite what was, by some measures, a disappointing 2008 for Buffett's investment company.(AP Photo/Nati Harnik)</p>

Berkshire shareholders Donald Chou and his seven year-old son Brent use a hand sanitizer as precaution against Swine flu, at the annual Berkshire Hathaway shareholders meeting in Omaha, Neb., Friday, May 1, 2009. Warren Buffett's famed Woodstock for capitalists begins Friday with various official and unofficial events. About 35,000 shareholders are expected to participate in Berkshire Hathaway's annual meeting Saturday despite what was, by some measures, a disappointing 2008 for Buffett's investment company.(AP Photo/Nati Harnik)

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OMAHA — Billionaire Warren Buffett spent Saturday praising the decisions U.S. officials made to right the economy in the midst of a "financial hurricane" and defending the ones he made to help his company navigate the storm.

The state of the economy and Berkshire Hathaway Inc.'s recent performance were among the first things addressed at the shareholders' meeting. Roughly 35,000 people packed an arena and overflow rooms to listen to Buffett and Berkshire Vice Chairman Charlie Munger answer questions for more than five hours.

"Overall, I commend the actions that were taken," Buffett said. But he said no one should expect perfection because the economy experienced a "financial hurricane."

But Buffett said he can't predict how quickly the economy and the markets will improve. He said last fall that the U.S. was facing an "economic Pearl Harbor."

To illustrate the challenges the nation faced last year, Buffett showed a sales receipt for $5 million in U.S. Treasury bonds that Berkshire sold in December for $90.07 more than face value, ensuring a negative return for the buyer. Buffett said he doesn't think most investors will see negative returns on U.S. bonds again in their lifetimes.

"It's been a very extraordinary year," he said.

The economy, succession at the top of Berkshire and the state of the company, which last year had its worst year since Buffett took over in 1965, were on the minds of many shareholders.

Berkshire's Class A stock lost 32 percent in 2008, and Berkshire's book value — assets minus liabilities — declined 9.6 percent, to $70,530 per share. That was the biggest drop in book value under Buffett and only the second time its book value has declined.

But despite Berkshire's rough year — which was depressed by unrealized multibillion-dollar derivative losses — the company still outpaced the market index Buffett uses as a measuring stick. The S&P 500 fell 37 percent in 2008.

Berkshire reported a 2008 profit of $4.99 billion, or $3,224 per Class A share. That was down 62 percent from the previous year, but better than many companies.

The meeting began as usual with a humorous movie, but instead of the traditional comical cartoon, Berkshire offered a reassuring message from animated versions of its products.

An animated Mrs. See of See's Candy told the crowd that it didn't seem right to have a humorous cartoon when so many things in the world don't seem sweet.

Retired shareholder Paul Gallmeyer of the Chicago area said he wasn't especially worried about who will replace the 78-year-old Buffett as Berkshire's chairman and CEO. He said all of Berkshire's more than 60 subsidiaries are run by people who will keep the company going after Buffett is gone.

"I truly don't see that as much of an issue as other people make it," Gallmeyer said.

But some shareholders, like Dennis Hospodarsky of Waterloo, Iowa, were a little worried about the succession issue.

"I hope he's as good at picking a successor as he is at stocks," Hospodarsky said.

Both Buffett and Munger tried to reassure shareholders that Berkshire's future success is not solely dependent on their continued service because the company has a strong culture of responsibility and trust.

"In show business, they say something 'has legs' if it is going to last. I think Berkshire Hathaway's system 'has legs,'" Munger said.

Buffett offered a few new clues about who'll replace him at the helm of Berkshire Hathaway, but Buffett still refused to name the people who will become Berkshire's next chief executive or its next chief investment officer. Buffett received several succession questions.

Three of Berkshire's internal managers are candidates to be CEO. And the board has a list of four internal and external investment managers who could manage Berkshire's $49 billion stock portfolio and investing its $24.3 billion cash.

Buffett says none of the investment managers likely beat the S&P 500 last year, but over the past 10 years they all beat the average performance at least modestly if not significantly.

Buffett said he doesn't see any value in choosing a CEO successor now to follow him around Berkshire's 19-person headquarters because all the candidates are already running businesses now. Plus the other two might leave Berkshire if a successor was named.

"It'd be a waste of talent," Buffett said. "I don't really see any advantages in having some crown prince around."

Buffett has said his son Howard will take over as chairman to ensure Berkshire's culture is preserved. Howard Buffett already serves on the board.

Berkshire shareholders rejected a resolution that would have required the company to produce annual sustainability reports about the company's subsidiaries and investments. Nearly 703,000 votes were cast against the measure and only 49,000 for it.

The group that presented the resolution wanted the company to disclose any environmental, social or labor rights risks associated with Berkshire's holdings.

Simon Billenness, who presented the resolution, said it would have required Berkshire to disclose more about labor problems at its apparel subsidiary Russell Athletic, which has been criticized for closing a plant in Honduras where a labor union had been organizing.

But Berkshire officials defended the way they treated workers at the plant after Fruit of the Loom acquired Russell in 2006, and they said the plant closing was part of the company's response to the recession. Several other Russell plants closed last year, too.

Berkshire's board recommended that shareholders reject the resolution, saying generating the report would require a substantial amount of time and produce little benefit.

Billenness said he was pleased with the level of support the resolution received.

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2TailPuppy

Of course Warren. You're just part of established big corporate America.

And he's being disingenous because he knows better for the long run.

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Sat May 2, 2009 10:16 AM EDT
logdump

And how would you know that or why should we listen to what you say unless you can show us more money than he has.

Thing about this awhile back he said something that went against Obama and to some he was a genius. Now he backs Obama and he is a traitor. facy is he is not alone. SPend 5 mins on the web and you can find tons of people that are sold on whats happening.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Sat May 2, 2009 11:47 AM EDT
2TailPuppy

SPend 5 mins on the web and you can find tons of people that are sold on whats happening.

1. Just because an idea appeals to a lot of people doesn't mean it's wrong.

2. But that's a good working theory.

I’m just assuming that if complete Communism doesn’t work half as much won’t help much either.

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Sat May 2, 2009 11:56 AM EDT
Arlene Tognetti

2TailPuppy

Have you read about how Warren Buffet supports small businesses? Have you read where he gives to many charities and organizations? Have you also read Warren doesn't gamble with the profits from his companies? Have you also read how he has treated his employees and stockholders? He is stellar my friend, stellar...you can argue all you want about wealth. Warren is an excellent example of what Corp America should do.

Warren Buffet has been good to many who have worked with him, worked around him

and has been focused on America and America labor ...on par with the best. Warren Buffet's education and concern for workers/labor is excellent... Find all you would like to know in Wikipedia.

Warren Buffet: America's Best Days are ahead of her...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

Quote about wealth transferred to family/children:

His children will not inherit a significant proportion of his wealth. These actions are consistent with statements he has made in the past indicating his opposition to the transfer of great fortunes from one generation to the next. Buffett once commented, "I want to give my kids just enough so that they would feel that they could do anything, but not so much that they would feel like doing nothing".

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Sat May 2, 2009 12:29 PM EDT
2TailPuppy

Arlene:

You are right and I don't disagree with anything you are saying.

But I disagree with him on this big business bail-out.

I’d like to quote a Viner here Sharn Cedar, he says it well:

But what is the cost? What is the cost of Obamanomics? We always count the cost in terms of the future taxes that young people will be forced to pay to pay back the debt. Sure, that is significant. That isn't the real cost of Robert Rubin's selfish economics. The real cost is the misdirection of investment, which leads to productivity loss that compounds to our future. …more efficient competitors, better ideas, startups and innovators, are being run out of the marketplace by tidal waves of bank capital. Newly created bank capital bets on the old ideas, on the proven ideas, or on personal friendships. It bets on the big names, it gives us Walmart instead of 10,000 innovative and energetic store owners. It gives us GM instead of 100 new and innovative car manufacturers. The cost of Obamanomics is not to be paid in the future, it is costing us literally the future. He is taking the future away from mankind.

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Sat May 2, 2009 12:47 PM EDT
Arlene Tognetti

President Obama and President Bush had to do a bail out,period

That is how close we were in Sept 2008 of a total meltdown of this economy

Because of the foolishness of people like Bernard Madoff and others running

those Ponzi scheme's on all Americans. Watch the Frontline video: The Meltdown

on WallStreet....On Thursday, Sept. 18, 2008, the astonished leadership of the U.S. Congress was told in a private session by the chairman of the Federal Reserve that the American economy was in grave danger of a complete meltdown within a matter of days. "There was literally a pause in that room where the oxygen left," says Sen. Christopher Dodd

Full link/video here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/view/

We were in dire straits.....We had no other choice to prevent people's

annuities, pension plans, investments and retirements from dissolving....I hear ya, I don't like doing this but people....WE ARE BROKE we HAD TO repair this immediately.

Citizens who are over the age of 65 yrs old have depended upon these investments....Otherwise the FEDS would have to take care of everyone...not just the unemployed....

Arlene in Seattle

thanks for your response

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Sat May 2, 2009 12:54 PM EDT
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jsautee

When Buffett and Gates come out in support of Obama's economic plans that gives me hope that smarter "capitalists" than I are optimistic about the future. Good news.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Sat May 2, 2009 10:34 AM EDT
2TailPuppy

Gates is now an idiot.

He has reached his level of incompetence.

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Sat May 2, 2009 10:40 AM EDT
Arlene Tognetti

Read more about Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation before you call anyone

an idiot: health care, medicine, concern for children around the world. And concern

for America's workers are part of the Gates Foundation's focus.

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Pages/home.aspx

Arlene in Seattle...

and just so you know.. I do NOT work for the Gates Foundation.....

  • 1 vote
#3.1 - Sat May 2, 2009 12:34 PM EDT
2TailPuppy

Read more about Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation before you call anyone

an idiot: health care, medicine, concern for children around the world.

Commendable. So you save all these kids from these dreadful diseases. Who’s going to feed them since these countries can’t feed themselves now? And in a decade these kids will be having families of 10 to 20 more kids to save and feed.

I travel the world and have lived in a dozen different countries including developing countries. I’m completely against foreign aid. You might read a new book by a very intelligent woman from Zambia who is a friend of a friend, “Dead Aid” by Dambisa Moyo.

  • 1 vote
#3.2 - Sat May 2, 2009 2:04 PM EDT
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2TailPuppy

I just heard on some news station that next were going to bail out Mexico because of the damage from the Swine Flu.

  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Sat May 2, 2009 10:41 AM EDT
logdump

And I made the mistake of answering one of your rants because I thought you were aserious individual. My mistake

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Sat May 2, 2009 11:49 AM EDT
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bluecollarbytes

since a decent chunk of market values is based on stock psycho babble that infuses airy confidence in 'investors', it's important that those dumber than Buffet don't get freaked out over the Obama/Democrat govt. that is running leftward, taking the entire economy with it.

    Reply#5 - Sat May 2, 2009 11:59 AM EDT
    Skal

    If Buffet was worried about investors freaking out over a leftward govt why did he support Obama during his candidacy?

      #5.1 - Sat May 2, 2009 12:11 PM EDT
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      2TailPuppy

      As it is we have a half dozen banks that are way too big. What if we let those banks fix themselves by either going bankrupt or spinning off thousands of branches which would happen either way? Imagine the opportunity here for thousands of entrepreneurs and others who would like to own and run a bank? Imagine having your local banker live in your community where you can have a personal relationship rather than getting on a phone tree every time you call your bank?

      • 1 vote
      Reply#6 - Sat May 2, 2009 1:28 PM EDT
      2TailPuppy

      From 2006 through 2008, the 10 largest financial companies in the U.S. awarded their chief executives a cumulative total of more than $560 million in cash, stock and options. Those firms -- some of which are no longer among the 10 biggest -- have lost a total of nearly $1 trillion in market value since the end of 2006. -Wall Street Journal

      These are the people we are bailing out. They belong in jail.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#7 - Sat May 2, 2009 1:36 PM EDT
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