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GM exports would be step up for China automakers

Wed May 13, 2009 11:33 AM EDT
business, china, united-states, as, gm
Elaine Kurtenbach, AP Business Writer
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<p>FILE - This Tuesday, April 21, 2009 file photo shows the General Motors world headquarters in Detroit. General Motors Corp. said Thursday May 7, 2009 it lost $6 billion in the first quarter and spent $10.2 billion more cash than it took in, as a sales slump cut revenue by $20 billion. The nation's biggest domestic automaker lost $9.78 per share, compared with a loss of $3.3 billion, or $5.80 per share, in the year-ago period. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya, File)  </p>

FILE - This Tuesday, April 21, 2009 file photo shows the General Motors world headquarters in Detroit. General Motors Corp. said Thursday May 7, 2009 it lost $6 billion in the first quarter and spent $10.2 billion more cash than it took in, as a sales slump cut revenue by $20 billion. The nation's biggest domestic automaker lost $9.78 per share, compared with a loss of $3.3 billion, or $5.80 per share, in the year-ago period. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya, File)

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SHANGHAI — China's auto industry has come a long way since General Motors Corp. set up its first factory here in a brand new industrial zone in Shanghai just over a decade ago.

With monthly vehicle sales topping those in the U.S. so far this year, China is now an auto power in its own right — though foreign joint ventures still dominate.

A reported move by GM to export cars built here to its home market in the U.S. could be just as important to the local industry's own global ambitions as it is for General Motors's survival, industry experts say.

"China is on its way to becoming the world's largest auto manufacturer. It will be nothing out of the ordinary to see cars with a 'made-in-China' label selling in global markets," said Li Chunbo, chief analyst at Citic Securities in Beijing.

Media reports that GM intends to increase sales of cars made outside the U.S., for the first time importing autos made at its Chinese factories with partner SAIC Motor Corp., spell political trouble given GM's reliance on billions of dollars in U.S. government support.

Union leaders have said it is wrong for GM to take taxpayer money to outsource jobs overseas.

GM has said little. Presumably, Chinese-made cars would enable GM to cut costs, and in the hyper-competitive global auto world of crippling labor costs and shrinking profit margins, any advantage counts. American automakers already rely on components made in China to save on costs.

"GM is reviewing various options," its China office said in a written statement. "We are not discussing details of our future portfolio, beyond what we have disclosed in auto shows and our viability plans."

In a presentation GM provided to some congressional offices, the automaker said it plans to import 17,335 vehicles from China to the U.S. in 2011 and 38,351 in 2012. The number of imported vehicles from China is expected to grow to 53,302 in 2013 and 51,546 in 2014.

That would be less than 2 percent of the 3 million vehicles GM sold in the U.S. last year — about one-third of which already are made overseas.

GM imports Chevrolet Aveos from South Korea, the Pontiac G8 muscle car from Australia and the Saturn Astra compact from Belgium. The Saturn Vue, Chevrolet HHR small sport utility vehicles and several pickup truck models are imported from Mexico. Other models are made in Canada.

GM Daewoo Auto & Technology Co., GM's South Korean unit, exported 269,718 vehicles, including kits, last year to North America.

Chinese-made cars may face quality questions from consumers concerned about defects and problems with a number of Chinese exports ranging from drugs and foods to furniture and appliances.

Japan's Honda Motor Co. has been successfully exporting its Jazz compact car from China to Europe since 2005.

This wouldn't be the first time a U.S. automaker has considered making China an export base.

Chrysler LLC and Chery Automobile Co., China's biggest domestic automaker, announced plans in 2007 to produce a low-cost model in China to be sold under Chrysler's Dodge brand in the U.S. and Europe. But they called it off last August. Apart from the fallout from the financial crisis, the companies said they needed to work on safety and emissions.

An earlier alliance between Chery and Malcolm Bricklin's Visionary Vehicles also fell apart.

Chinese automakers already enjoy price advantages, but lag behind the global giants in technology and quality. So far, they've been daunted by the challenge of meeting U.S. standards. Much publicized failures of some vehicles in test crashes have likewise hurt sales in Europe, although several car makers have begun sales of SUVs and other vehicles in some markets.

"All we hear today is premature," said Klaus Paur, Shanghai-based TNS Automotive Director for North Asia. "These export aspirations are a marketing tactic, not a real solid opportunity. But it's certainly a possibility in the future."

China's own automakers should eventually compete in the U.S. market. But the changes won't come overnight, analysts say.

"There should be one or two able to do that," said Yale Zhang, an analyst with CSM Worldwide in Shanghai. "Not in five years, but maybe in 10 to 20 years," he said.

For now, Chinese homegrown automakers like Chery, Brilliance and Geely Automobile Holdings are expanding mainly into developing regions — Southeast Asia, Russia, the Middle East, Africa and Latin America.

But even in those markets, where standards and consumer expectations are less rigorous than in the U.S. and Europe, they are struggling to hold on to the gains they have made.

Growth of China's exports of autos and auto parts fell by half in 2008 from a year before, according to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers.

The Chinese hope to emulate the Japanese and Koreans, whose car sales in the U.S. took off only after they did what was needed to please U.S. car buyers.

"It will come. The question is how long it will take," said Ulrich Walker, chairman & CEO for Daimler Northeast Asia. "The question is ... and it depends on the car maker ... how seriously they take this challenge."

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AP Business Writer Kelly Olsen in Seoul, AP Business Writer Ken Thomas in Washington and Associated Press researcher Ji Chen in Shanghai contributed to this report.

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Looks like I will be buying a Ford when my need for a new car comes.

    Reply#1 - Wed May 13, 2009 12:04 PM EDT
    radrex

    Well - I thought I was buying "American" when I bought my Ford Fusion.... Upon closer examination after I got it home.... It is freaking Mexican... So much for buying from Ford.  Next time I'll just get a Toyota and call it a day.

      #1.1 - Wed May 13, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
      douvie

      That's right-- the Toyota is built in America. Screw GM. they take taxpayer funds and then export the money overseas, cut American jobs and take advantage of foreign tax loopholes. They should be dissolved in bankruptcy. Unless of course, you want to buy a Chevy Shanghai.

      • 1 vote
      #1.2 - Wed May 13, 2009 5:55 PM EDT
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      Tappy McWidestance

      If GM ships more manufacturing jobs to China, why should we care if they survive? I know the ripple effect of job loss through the economy is huge when GM and Chrysler die, but really, if they are not willing to buy parts from US suppliers and hire Americans, what's the point.

      I think a tariff on Chinese made cars which makes this idea unprofitable would be a good start.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#2 - Wed May 13, 2009 12:07 PM EDT
      economicparty

      Tappy - why don't you move to MI and start a new automaker? You can then hire the laid of employee's of GM and Chrysler you are so worried about. Today's workers are likely paying for the sins of the past unfortunately.

      So the work day starts at 8 a.m. First the must clock in and then there is the union meeting until 8:30. Then they must walk to their work stations and get ready. Now it is 8:45 a.m. Then there is the mandatory break at 10:00 to 10:20. They start shutting down at 9:55 and it takes until 10:25 to get back up running.

      At 12:00 a.m. it is time for lunch which forces the line to shut down at 11:45 and re-open at 1:15. Now the afternoon break is at 3:00. Another half hour of paid down time. Finally at 4:45 they must get ready to close it down after a tough, tough 5 real hours of work at 60% more pay than the competitors in other states.

      And we wonder why the jobs are going elsewhere? Seriously, does anyone ever wonder why these work rules are so stupid?

      I wish you well in your new endeavor.

        #2.1 - Fri May 15, 2009 11:12 AM EDT
        Justme-517872

        Economic - the unions are there to obtain fair treatment of employees. If the companies have let them go that far to where a huge amount of time and money is being wasted every day then quite frankly then that's their own stupidity. My father was in a union for 32 years and never got to enjoy that type of work day.

        at 60% more pay than the competitors in other states.

        Do you have figures for this? Until recently the "foreign" companies were keeping pace and/or beating UAW wages. Of course now that Americans have shot themselves in the foot, the other companies are beginning to slash that.

          #2.2 - Fri May 15, 2009 11:34 AM EDT
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          jdl-28

          I feel the should go under they take our money just to kick us in the face, any car that they ship to this country should have at least a twenty thousand import tax on it. Obama is wasting our money for nothing.

            Reply#3 - Wed May 13, 2009 12:15 PM EDT
            Albyf1z

            I'm a really big supporter of GM, but even I feel this is ridiculous. Now if they wanted to build the cars in the US and then export the finished product to China, then I could agree but other than that this is stupid.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#4 - Wed May 13, 2009 12:23 PM EDT
            nodomestic4evr

            Chinese made GM cars coming? How exciting is that? Regardless where GM build their cars, the question is, "Who wants to buy their POS's?" Imposing heavy tariffs won't help either since who could afford expensive junks made from China.

              Reply#5 - Wed May 13, 2009 12:28 PM EDT
              Yesse

              I'll never buy any GM cars ever. Why would a US company would sell the cars made in china back to the US? It's like having selling clothing to people with the materials that the people grew and sold. What's wrong with US workers? I know they don't like unions but how will Americans buy cars if their jobs keep being shipped to a foreign country? No wonder China will rival us soon, maybe even sooner than expected. I pray the company fails because at least it would fail in china and not here.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#6 - Wed May 13, 2009 12:58 PM EDT
              jamiewb

              Where's the UAW? shouldn't they be pooping a brick about this?

              • 1 vote
              Reply#7 - Wed May 13, 2009 12:59 PM EDT
              ShadowXX

              I do think GM sales will decline in the United States even further.

              If I were heading up Chrysler, I'd jump on the chance to make cars in the US.

                Reply#8 - Wed May 13, 2009 1:46 PM EDT
                clay-716504

                Bottom line here is GM, Ford and Chrysler CAN NOT build small cars in the States and be competitive. The legacy costs are eating them alive. The contribution to margin on small cars is so slim they can not price small vehicles competitively when trying to compete with the Japanese and Europeans.

                If they do not import some vehicles they may as well forget the small car market which is growing daily.

                  Reply#9 - Wed May 13, 2009 1:47 PM EDT
                  jdl-28

                  Well Honda build small cars here and several other and they are competitive, that I can not buy.

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                  #9.1 - Wed May 13, 2009 4:08 PM EDT
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                  TimB-346367

                  Leave it to the communist to save the capitolist. I'm with the majority on this; if GM imports cars from China then I will never buy GM again. It is time for the American workers to take to the streets and get the corporate crooks out of our government. Obama promised change and he is changing us into endentured servants. Sadly I voted for him and am regretting nearly every move he makes. As usual he's been bought and paid for by corporate America. Our complacency in not demanding our government server the people has ensured that it will server the rich and the corporations. Our complacency will ensure our end.

                    Reply#10 - Wed May 13, 2009 2:17 PM EDT
                    Justme-517872

                    The UAW is in the toilet where so many Americans wanted them. Now we cry for their help? Ironic isn't it?

                    "Made in China" isn't exactly something to brag about. Exactly how does Ford think this is going to "ramp up" sales?? I will keep my "foreign car" (Honda) which was made in the US, not Mexico.

                    It truly amazes me that after all that has been happening, this move shows that Ford has still not learned a thing!!

                    Why can't they keep up with Toyota or Honda? Those companies are building plants over here and were keeping up with UAW wages. At times even topping them. I'm sure it has a lot more to do with TQM, and the execs taking home a helluva lot less money than the "US" companies than it does "legacy costs". Or the fact that with every new car, once they finally get it built right and the recalls die off, they discontinue it and bring out a whole new line to issue recalls on. Look at the Cavalier and Escort. Once those two finally got to the point where they were pretty decent cars, they were discontinued. Brilliant huh?

                    Bottom line is consumers were and will continue to be faced with two main choices when buying a car...

                    A - a car made in Mexico or China which will probably make good use of the warranty, or...

                    B - for a few hundred dollars more....a car made in the US which is proven year after year to be well-built and dependable

                    If for some reason I have to go buy a new car, I will buy a Honda or Toyota since they seem to like creating jobs for us while our good 'ole "US" companies continue to send our jobs overseas. Not to mention when I'm cruising down the highway with my daughter in the car I'd really rather not to be doing it in a car made in China or Mexico!

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#11 - Wed May 13, 2009 2:27 PM EDT
                    jamiewb

                    The UAW is in the toilet where so many Americans wanted them. Now we cry for their help? Ironic isn't it?

                    I assume you were responding to my comment regarding the UAW. I don't particularly care about GM taking their small car operation overseas, I was just surprised that the UAW isn't up in arms about it.

                      #11.1 - Wed May 13, 2009 6:27 PM EDT
                      Justme-517872

                      Hi Jamie, I saw your comment and another asking about the union and thought it was ironic. In so many other articles the UAW has been getting crucified and blamed for the big 3's troubles. I'm sure they're not happy about it, but between the state the company is in and how they've been attacked by the media, public, and government, I doubt they're in much of a position to do anything significant. It strikes me as one of those "careful what you wish for" type situations. Not you personally - just the public in general.

                        #11.2 - Fri May 15, 2009 11:40 AM EDT
                        jamiewb

                        Right, but either way, don't you think its strange that they aren't saying anything? Do they feel like theyve lost their power?

                          #11.3 - Fri May 15, 2009 11:04 PM EDT
                          Justme-517872

                          I do think they have lost a lot of their power. I think Americans have really screwed themselves on that one. I saw an article a while back that said the "foriegn" companies are no longer afraid their employees will unionize because of the way the UAW has been getting crucified. As a result, instead of keeping up with union wages, they're cutting them to around $13/hour. I know there are lots of short-sighted people that will love seeing other Americans brought down but I don't see anything good about lowering the standard of living for everyone.

                          Apart from all of that, maybe also the company is in such dire straits that it the UAW realizes the employees are sol no matter what.

                            #11.4 - Mon May 18, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
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                            bayside-1101189

                            You want to keep jobs here in america buy a honda..They make their cars in america and if you ever own one you get used to owning a quality car..GM thinks we are stupid to believe we would bail them out then buy a GM car from china..

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#12 - Wed May 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT
                            Tom Woolf

                            Sign me up for one of them! After all, the Chinese have proven they can do toothpaste, pet food, and baby formula par ex⋅cel⋅lence.... Can't wait to trust them to do the same for automobiles!!!

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                            Reply#13 - Wed May 13, 2009 5:00 PM EDT
                            Sgt C USMC

                            Tom, the Chinese were the manufacturers of the magic exploding camshafts in 2007 Toyota V8 Tundras and Tacomas, forcing a recall of 15,600 vehicles. The propeller shafts weren't properly heated, and were fracturing under normal driving conditions causing massive engine failure.

                            In May 2007, a Toyota spokesperson stated 20 camshaft failures occurred in Toyota's all-new 5.7 L 3UR-FE V-8 engine. Toyota said the failures were the result of a flaw in the camshaft casting process, and the supplier of the camshafts has since fixed the error. In the event of a camshaft failure Toyota will either replace the engine and extend the warranty or repurchase the truck from the owner. Toyota originally intended to begin selling the 5.7 L equipped Tundra during the summer of 2007 but decided to rush the engine into production in order to meet the February 2007 launch. This decision was the result of product planners and dealers seeking the larger V8's availability at the initial launch

                            On December 13, 2007, Toyota Motor Corp recalled 15,600 4x4 2007 model-year Tundras in the United States because a rear propeller shaft joint may fail. "There is a possibility that a joint in the rear propeller shaft may have been improperly heat treated, resulting in insufficient hardness," Toyota said. Adding, "This may cause a section of the rear propeller shaft to separate at the joint." There has been one reported case of abnormal noises in the affected vehicles. No accidents have been connected to the recall. Tundra owners will be notified beginning in late-December 2007 and are requested to contact their local Toyota dealer for inspection. If the hardness is not correct the dealer will then replace the rear propeller shaft. [44]

                              #13.1 - Thu May 14, 2009 5:32 PM EDT
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                              cm-1101460

                              Why not export jobs to China? They make cars more cheaply, after all, they don't have the same labor standards or standards of living. UAW workers could always potentially seek a transfer overseas. GM's problem is that they made cars that no one wants anymore, they bet on SUVs, Hummers, etc. No person under 50 was ever going to be seen in a Buick, Oldsmobile, Cadillac. Saturn was a decidedly depressing and unexciting brand. GM's cars always looked rinky dink, plastic consoles with buttons that fall off, materials were never quality and didnt seem to fit together. Plus they always had too many product lines and brands. They should have reduced to their best lines and updated those much more regularly. They should have focused on quality sedans, hybrids and alternative fuel vehicles. They should have been more farsighted, peak oil theory has been around a long time, they should know what's coming.

                                Reply#14 - Wed May 13, 2009 6:02 PM EDT
                                Rick 57

                                Where have you readers been the last 20 years? For that time at least, the industrial unions through out the US have been screaming about the greedy companies shipping heavy industry and jobs over seas. Eventually we won't be able to defend ourselves. Remember what happened to the confederacy? All of heavy industry was in the north. Who will build our ships tanks and other defence systems? China. They poison our toys. What do you think the weapons systems will do. Complacency will be our downfall!!!

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                                Reply#15 - Thu May 14, 2009 10:46 AM EDT
                                breelaboyDeleted
                                Todd-1641627

                                I think I’m going crazy!

                                I find it interesting that GM has spent the last 26 years investing it’s profits in China and Europe. We now have 10% (or more) unemployment in the US. We just loaned GM money we don’t have, only to watch them reinvest it in operations in China. Oh and if we didn’t get it to them the American economy would have collapsed. I’m still looking but I’ll bet almost none of it hit our streets. We have given the backbone of our US economy to the Chinese and at the same time we barrow money from them to help pay for all the people that are still unemployed. Even the Mexicans are complaining about being sold out for pennies per part and say things like, “ we worked hard for 15 years for them, were is the loyalty”.

                                Unemployment caused the home values to decrease by 40%. This cause foreclosures against over leveraged loans by banks and borrowers. Banks inflated the purchasing values to buyers over the last 15 or 20 years from all the home equity loans they marketed and made trillions from. They created and pushed on people to fix-up their homes and send their kids to college on it, “hey take a vacation we can loan you 110% of the value of your home” Hell, these kids that went to college, can’t find jobs. Then the banks sold these loans to overseas investors and these banks received more money that we borrowed from the Chinese.

                                Now every breathing American (including your children) owes about $375,000 each.

                                Today we have seen the Fed increase the discount rate from .50% to .75%. We are looking down the road to inflation, the US currency actually rises against the euro and the Chinese display their uncertainty in the American people’s ability to pay it back. A man actually flies a plane into the IRS office in Huston TX for whatever reason. WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!

                                Our generation needs to wake the hell up and get in to what’s going on around them before it’s too late.

                                No more…… “That’s our government…nothing we can do about it”

                                I’m not the smartest person in the world, but if there are people smarter than I, they should have seen these days coming years ago. This deal was presented as the US extending it’s helping hand to less fortunate countries, only to be shackled and sold out by special interests. The people that seen this coming were most likely called crazy and pushed aside or politely encouraged to look the other way.

                                If we don’t get it together soon, this will be us going to buy milk and bread with our life savings …….

                                Todd French

                                PS……………..

                                Below is a interview I thought you might find interesting. I’m sure that this is only one model of a large part of our economy.

                                When you think buy American, think about what’s American!

                                This interview came from The China Business Network.

                                http://www.thechinabusinessnetwork.com

                                GM China's First Employee - from China market as GM's dream, to the USA market as a Chinese dream. Time Flies.

                                1/4/2010 - Part of TCBN's Quality Series
                                As GM's first employee in China, Steve Schnell knows about China's automotive industry. Currently President of Consultants 2 Management, Steve has held many positions along the chain of vehicle production throughout his tenure in China.

                                TCBN: Greetings everyone, I’m Michael McCune. And this is The China Business Network.

                                Selected to be a part of General Motor’s original China market team, Steve Schnell has played a first-hand role in the evolution of the China auto market. After 10 years of due diligence and negotiation, he was employee #1 in the PRC back in 1994. After serving in executive positions across GM, he’s worked in operating and advisory roles with various players in the global auto parts sector. We caught up with him on his cell phone to hear some of his perspectives on doing business with China’s dynamic auto market.

                                So Steve, I understand your first responsibility with China and GM started in 1994. That was just about two years into Jack Smith’s tenure as CEO at General Motors. I was wondering if you could share with us a little bit of perspectives GM had in terms of what the China market opportunity was at that time, and how it fit into its global operations.

                                SCHNELL: I really started China in 1984, not 1994. In 1984 is when the GM executive team wanted to make China a prime target. And they brought in a new employee from outside of GM by name of Ron Gilchrist to head up China team. I was asked to join that team in, again as I said, it was 1984. In 1985 we made our first trip to China as part of this new team to get GM established there.

                                TCBN: Now at the time, I’m curious about building up an organization from scratch. I know that you started with one, and built up more than a few operation entities there. In terms of talent, in terms of training, what type of challenges were forefront in the other executives’ minds in terms of building organizational capacity in China beyond just manufacturing but actually management capability there?

                                SCHNELL: It was a major challenge. When I went there in ’94, as you said, it was an office of one. That was me. I had to find a staff of both engineering-type people, business people, and accounting people in order to help around the office. So it was a challenge just to first get an assistant who was bilingual, and then once the assistant was hired, we started to do background checks using networks within different organizations contacts with in Shanghai: the local governments, the local universities, and also the hotels. The hotels had quite a few people that were bilingual.

                                The biggest challenge was trying to find engineers that we could mold and teach the more modern way of doing vehicles compared to the technology that had been used in China up to that point in time. We did have – when we did select an engineer, of course we did background check sand everything. We actually sent a lot to the US for training programs within GM tech center. A number of them went to Germany to work at Opel. A couple weeks, couple months, so we could see their experiences and they could see what we were trying to do in China. So it was a challenge but it worked out. When I left Shanghai in 1997, there were about 170 people in the office. And the joint venture was just being formed at that time. A lot of those people went to work in the joint venture.

                                TCBN: And can you talk a little bit about how you’ve seen that evolution of that sales and service market in China? We hear a lot about the manufacturing statistics that come out, and of course China has become by volume largest market. I’m curious about the evolution of that after market and even, of course, dealer networks. Clearly this has to have evolved concurrent with the vehicle sales. I’m wondering if you can comment a little bit on how - or what challenge sector has faced as the market has grown.

                                SCHNELL: Even before we had the joint venture there was a small growing dealer network for imported vehicles. Import duties were extremely high so sales on that not that great. But we were able to at least have a little network before the vehicle production began. Once production began we were interviewing companies in order to establish networks and those networks had to meet all of the normal requirements for the size, the service, for quality, and for availability of parts. So that was going on simultaneous with the development and feasibility study and formation of the joint venture. So when the production started coming out we did have a network to work from, and we had a lot of good number of candidates who were being qualified to become dealerships.

                                TCBN: I want to go a little bit deeper into comment about having engineering team in China to help with quality. I, and many people of course, hear about how difficult to manage for good quality in China. I wonder if you could talk about the operational level about how the interaction should work well between the buyer and the supplier in partnership - what elements, instead of just specs, sort of soft knowledge transfer, or timing of how frequently interacting both sides, or openness transparency? What are the keys to success for making good quality products come out of those supplier relationships?

                                SCHNELL: The key to any success in China is partnership. You have to go in there with an open mind. You have to be willing to share your knowledge and experience so they can learn and meet your requirements. If you find a supplier that has reasonably good quality, take a look at that product and you’re going to have your engineers look at it and see what needs to be done to make it a high quality product. And some of that in most cases has to do with production where you have to have someone go in there and take a look at the production process, take a look at machinery, take a look at the measuring devices, and give them the standards that they should be following in order to produce that quality on consistent basis. So you find someone good and you make them better, and they’ll follow your lead when you give them a supply agreement says “we’re going to buy X from you for this number of years as long as you meet quality standard, and we’re going to help you meet quality standard.” So they are getting a lot. They’re getting a business deal with you; they’re improving their quality which is going to give them additional customers. So it’s a win-win situation. That’s why I saw partnering and partnership is the key to every success in China.

                                TCBN: As a final question, we talk about Chinese brands going global, and when you look at the auto sector here in the US, what opportunities are coming along the ways with China as the globalization of Chinese auto part brands and Chinese car brands for US companies here? What do you see coming down the pipeline?

                                SCHNELL: Well, I know there’s several different brands of Chinese vehicles that developed for export. Chery is one of them. It has not passed the federal safety and emissions requirements. It hasn’t passed in Europe either. But there’s a number of vehicles that are relatively low priced that could come out into US market in next couple of years. That’s one of the big dreams of the Chinese government is to be able to start exporting vehicles. They have enough technology now within components, it’s a matter of harnessing technology and the production process to make sure the quality is consistent over time. The other thing is when the vehicles are made for consistent quality within the vehicles and also to make sure when the vehicle’s designed has all safety parts build into it. So I can see over the next couple years vehicles coming into US and Europe, in addition to the components.

                                TCBN: Well Steve, I’m sure that will pose new opportunities and challenges both for Chinese firms and companies operating here in the US and European markets. I look forward to another conversation with you as that becomes more of a reality, but I thank you very much for having time to speak with us today

                                SCHNELL: Okay, been a pleasure Michael. Good talking to you. Look forward to speaking to you again.

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