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Calif. wants autos to have reflecting windows

Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:00 PM EDT
us-news, business, us, california, cars, cooler
Samantha Young, Associated Press
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SACRAMENTO — California air regulators voted unanimously Thursday for a mandate requiring auto manufacturers to include sun-reflecting glass on all vehicles sold within the state by 2014.

The move by the California Air Resources Board was intended to keep cars, pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles cooler during hot weather, reducing the use of air conditioning.

That was expected to improve fuel efficiency and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

"The end result of it is the customer gets a car that's more comfortable to ride in, air conditioners don't have to work as hard, and the atmosphere will be happier because we won't be emitting as much carbon dioxide," said board chairwoman Mary Nichols.

The auto industry complained about the expense but won an extra year to comply with the first phase of the regulation. Automakers also will be allowed to find other ways to cool down cars to avoid a tougher window standard to be phased in after 2014.

The board gave automakers more time to meet the standards after representatives for Ford Motor Co., Chrysler Group LLC, Honda Motor Co. and Toyota Motor Corp. lined up to ask the board to extend the deadline.

"We don't have a lot of spare resources right now," said Steven Douglas, senior director of environmental affairs for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers.

California has been a leader for decades in setting auto standards. Its mandates have often brought changes throughout the industry as automakers move to capture the state's huge market.

California was the first state to require the use of catalytic converters in 1975 as a way to reduce smog. A 2002 state law intended to force cleaner auto emissions was the reason the Obama administration implemented greater fuel-efficiency standards earlier this year.

Beginning with the 2012 model year, a quarter of passenger vehicles sold in California must have specially coated windshields that block 50 percent of the sun's heat from a parked car. All vehicles must have those windshields within two more years.

In 2016, windshields must block 60 percent of the sun's heat unless car makers can demonstrate other ways to keep cars cool.

The regulation is projected to prevent 700,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide from entering the atmosphere in 2020, the equivalent of taking 140,000 vehicles off the road for a year. There were nearly 22 million passenger vehicles registered last year in California.

The new windows would cool a sedan's interior by an estimated 14 degrees Fahrenheit or 12 degrees for a pickup or SUV.

The board dismissed concerns from trade groups representing domestic and foreign car companies that sun-reflecting glass would interfere with cell phones signals, GPS navigation, electronic passes for toll roads and tire pressure monitoring systems.

The regulation allows glass manufacturers to leave a small area of the windshield free of the metallic coating to boost wireless signals. However, representatives for navigation and cell phone companies questioned whether it would be effective.

Susan Lipper, senior manager of regulatory affairs at T-Mobile USA, said drivers and passengers might be prevented from making emergency calls from their cars.

"If you need to make a 911 call and material in the windshield blocks it, that's an issue," Lipper said.

Drivers who replace windows in older cars also would have to meet the new standards.

The window mandate is among dozens of strategies pursued by the board in its effort to reduce California's greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels by 2020, the goal set by the state's 2006 global warming law.

A proposal to require so-called "cool paints" was removed from the regulation after the auto industry complained it might have to stop selling black cars in California.

The technology used by glass manufacturers to make more reflective car windows has been around for nearly 20 years, said Mukesh Rustagi, director of strategic product management at Pittsburgh Glass Works, the largest automotive glass supplier in North America.

© 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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dcstone01

Well, this is interesting...

I wonder if it is ging to be required in business and residential windows in the future as well...

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:05 PM EDT
dcstone01

Here was an editorial opinion that was in our local paper...

Editorial: Better windows can help climate

  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Wed Jul 1, 2009 3:09 AM EDT
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USAF Vet-923294

We have reflective tinting on our car that looks silver and as it gets darker out side the tint lightens. You can only see in the car when it is dusk, really cloudly or early morning.

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Reply#2 - Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:49 PM EDT
Mad in the USA-1087261

Another reason I will never live in California. Next thing you know they will start making the citizens sort their trash into compost, metal, glass, etc or face a huge monetary fine...Oh yeah they already do that in San Francisco. Welcome to the USSR oops I meant California

    Reply#3 - Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:06 AM EDT
    iconoclasm

    In principal what they are attempting to do makes sense. My one concern would be if the tinting required by Cali actually illegal to have in other states? There's a limit on how well you can block UV and IR before you dim visible. The tinting law in other states center around being police able to shine lights into a vehicle.

    Since these are metal based solutions (which is why the cell phone compaines mentioned emergency calls) tin foil hat wearers should be relived that they can remove their hats in these new cars.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#4 - Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:42 PM EDT
    dcstone01

    "Since these are metal based solutions (which is why the cell phone compaines mentioned emergency calls) tin foil hat wearers should be relived that they can remove their hats in these new cars."

    lol

    Well, THAT is a positive now isn't it???

    I am not sure about what the car manufactorers do about this. But wasn't one of the things recently passed in Congress/EPA rules that California can be the defacto leader on car requirements and that the other states have to go along with it...I know there was something said along those lines about something like that...and if its Federally mandated, even those states that have different laws have to abide by the fed standard...or am I could be mistaken...

    • 3 votes
    #4.1 - Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:33 PM EDT
    iconoclasm

    California can set the auto industry standard and the Federal goverment can override local regulation but California laws don't override local regulation outside of California.

    I remember tinted windows being an issue but I don't think you can get fined for just driving though a place. The impact would be selling the car outside of California to a place that requires more visible light to go though the tinting. If you get fined you have to replace the windows and you can't blame it on the people who sold you the car even if they are local and didn't get caught themselves.

    They'll figure it all out. My car gets too hot too on these long summer days.

    • 1 vote
    #4.2 - Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:46 PM EDT
    dcstone01

    "They'll figure it all out. My car gets too hot too on these long summer days."

    That I can agree with, I live in the great Central Valley of CA, here in Sacramento it is not uncommon to have triple digit days and high temp nights...too darned hot. Today is one of those days. I have 'dark windows on the side and back windows of my vehicle and a 'special' treatment/glass on the windshield that cuts the uva?/and heat...but its not a 'dark' window...

    I also use one of those window guard/screen things for the windsheild and it does make a difference...but its still hot in the car...So, if this requirement can help keep the vehicles cooler, then it won't take as long for the AC to kick in and cool it down...I could see where with sheer numbers this would make a difference somewhere.

    • 2 votes
    #4.3 - Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:03 PM EDT
    dcstone01

    So, I am not sure if this counts but I think this can/could be made into a case for the 'window treatments' that increase the vehicles efficiency and therefore increasing the mpg...and as long as the feds approve, then it would be applicable nationwide...

    I found it...It just came out in todays paper...

    Go figure "ask and ye shall find"...

    EPA gives green light to California's pollution rules

    • 1 vote
    #4.4 - Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:10 AM EDT
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    Ming Bucibei

    Many if not most states reflective window tinting is illegal, cops want to be able to see into your car at all times; which is a stupid reason to ban reflective tinting btw!!

    ming bucibei

    • 1 vote
    Reply#5 - Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT
    yogiman

    Well, this makes sense, doesn't it. A police officer stops a car for

    a justified reason and as he nears the car, unable to see in... BAM!

    What common sense are these idiots using?

      Reply#6 - Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:51 PM EDT
      hub-934650

      "California has been a leader for decades..."

      There is a distinct difference between 'leadership' and 'political activism' that seems completely lost on the writer!

      And if you ever get to spend some sommers in Phoenix, you'll find out there is very little difference between a car where the inside temperature is 195 vs. 210 degrees. CA desert areas reach the same temps. You kill a baby in that car in about the same time! Unfortunately it does happen too frequently....

      And all based on that FRAUDULENT 'climate change' garbage!

        Reply#7 - Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:38 AM EDT
        dcstone01

        Well I live in Sacramento, it was only 108 yesterday, it broke a record that was set at 107 in 1900...most of the cities around here are in the 109 to 114 degrees...Today was a little cooler, only 104.

        So I do know what you mean about heat...I have to leave my dog at home in the summer and she doesn't like that too much. I never left my daughter in the car and frankly only fools do that...

        • 2 votes
        #7.1 - Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:44 AM EDT
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