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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama has been reluctant to probe Bush-era torture and anti-terrorism policies, but his Democratic allies aren't likely to let the matters rest.
"I've always preferred my idea of a commission of inquiry to look at all these issues," Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said Sunday.
Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., head of the intelligence committee, suggested that the George W. Bush administration broke the law by concealing a CIA counterterrorism program from Congress.
The Wall Street Journal, anonymously citing former intelligence officials, reported Monday the secret program was a plan to kill or capture al-Qaida operatives.
The Journal's sources said the plan, which was halted by CIA Director Leon Panetta, was an attempt to carry out a presidential finding authorized in 2001 by President George W. Bush.
The Journal said the agency spent money on planning and maybe some training, but it never became fully operational. The plan was highly classified and the CIA has refused to comment on it.
The assertion that Vice President Dick Cheney ordered the program kept secret from Congress came amid word that Attorney General Eric Holder is contemplating opening a criminal probe of possible CIA torture.
A move to appoint a criminal prosecutor is certain to stir partisan bickering that could prove a distraction to Obama's efforts to push ambitious health care and energy reform.
Obama has resisted an effort by congressional Democrats to establish a "truth commission," saying the nation should be "looking forward and not backwards."
Regarding the 8-year-old counterterrorism program, Feinstein said the Bush administration's failure to notify Congress "is a big problem, because the law is very clear."
Congress should investigate the secrecy because "it could be illegal," Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said.
According to Feinstein, Panetta told Congress late last month that "he had just learned about the program, described it to us, indicated that he had canceled it and ... did tell us that he was told that the vice president had ordered that the program not be briefed to the Congress."
"We were kept in the dark. That's something that should never, ever happen again," said Feinstein.
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said he agreed with Feinstein that the CIA should keep Congress informed. But Cornyn said the new assertion "looks to me suspiciously like an attempt to provide political cover" to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats. Pelosi has accused the CIA of lying to her in 2002 about its use of waterboarding, or simulated drowning, which many people, including Obama, consider torture.
"This continued attack on the CIA and our intelligence gathering organizations is undermining the morale and capacity of those organizations to gather intelligence," said Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire.
Reports about the counterterrorism program, Cheney's role in directing its existence be kept from Congress and the attorney general's consideration of a special prosecutor came on the eve of Senate Judiciary Committee hearings for Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor.
A Justice Department official told The Associated Press that Holder will decide in the next few weeks whether to appoint a prosecutor to investigate the Bush administration's harsh interrogation practices. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on a pending matter.
In response to the report, Justice Department spokesman Matt Miller said Saturday that Holder planned to "follow the facts and the law" and noted that Holder has said that "it would be unfair to prosecute any official who acted in good faith based on legal guidance from the Justice Department."
Feinstein and Cornyn spoke on "Fox News Sunday." Durbin appeared on ABC's "This Week." Gregg spoke on CNN's "State of the Union." Leahy spoke on CBS' "Face the Nation."
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Associated Press writer Nedra Pickler contributed to this report.
© 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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{"commentId":8172243,"authorDomain":"b-shaughnessy"}
However, Cornyn said the new disclosure "looks to me suspiciously like an attempt to provide political cover" to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats.
Notice to the American right-wing: losing Pelosi to get to Bush/Cheney is a sacrifice we're willing to make. It's more than day-to-day politics, it's history itself.
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- 6 votes
#1 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:51 PM EDT{"commentId":8173304,"authorDomain":"comsen"}
And you really think Pelosi is the only Democrat exposed in all of this? LOL
{"commentId":8173304,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"comsen"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8173930,"authorDomain":"blll"}
Its unlikely this is going to hurt the Democrats at all. Quite the opposite, it makes the CIA look bad for going along with the illegal orders of a President who forget his oath of office to "Preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution." If anything was not preserved, not protected, and not defended in the last 8 years, it was certainly the Constitution.
{"commentId":8173930,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"blll"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":8175414,"authorDomain":"ulicnyp001"}
Feinstein and company are determined to turn the USA into a banana republic where the losers and former administration people are imprisoned. Why not simply tie them to a stake on the beach and shoot them, as happened some years ago in Liberia. That is the way that things frequently work in the third-world: winners to to the Presidential Palace, and losers to the wall. I think that many of the lefties would be very comfortable with this - until it is their turn at the wall.
{"commentId":8175414,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"ulicnyp001"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8176555,"authorDomain":"arsine3463"}
If members of the former administration committed serious crimes, should they not be brought to justice?
{"commentId":8176555,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"arsine3463"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":8177493,"authorDomain":"reddirthippy"}
This is one place I seriouly disagree with obama. He says why look to the past.
So if you commit a crime and don't get caught in the process of that crime, hey it's a freebie.
{"commentId":8177493,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"reddirthippy"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8181140,"authorDomain":"ulicnyp001"}
Senator Feinstein reportedly used her position to funnel millions of dollars of business to her husband's firm. Doubtless illegal.
What is under assault is the peaceful transference of power, from administration to administration. After free and honest elections, the peaceful transference of power is the central hallmark of the western democracies. This is why Presidents are willing to give up power, however relucantly, at the end of their term. Because they are assured that neither they, their family, or their senior advisers will be subject to imprisonment or death by their successors.
This is why GWB declined to have Bill Clinton prosecuted for perjury, despite his obvious guilt.
Now, the lefties want to change the game, and use the criminalization of political differences which they invented, and use so well. They likely can't gun GWB, but are hoping to bag some second-tier people from the previous administration.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8182029,"authorDomain":"malankuhn"}
The Leftists have chosen to use Hate as a means to stir emotion in their masses.
Now that the mindless masses are stirred to a lather, the lefty leadership can't control them. I hope Obama's AG goes rogue on this one. After the trial, they will have less control of the mob they have mis-informed.
Hate should not be used as a political tool even when you are at war with a culture bent on the total destruction of the planet. Evil is to be defeated, not hated.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8182471,"authorDomain":"reddirthippy"}
The 'rule of law' party until it applies to us.
{"commentId":8182471,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"reddirthippy"}
{"commentId":8182598,"authorDomain":"nofluer"}
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{"commentId":8182598,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"nofluer"}
{"commentId":8182824,"authorDomain":"nofluer"}
George #1.6
GWB didn't have anything to do with Clinton's legal outcome.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/22/us/appeal-unlikely-in-clinton-contempt-case.html
Clinton weaseled and the judge let him get away with it. He's still a lying SOB, but then he's a politician so that is to be expected. Show me a politician who's not a liar and I'll put flowers on the grave.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8185785,"authorDomain":"cplmcl"}
George-369262: Senator Feinstein reportedly used her position to funnel millions of dollars of business to her husband's firm. Doubtless illegal.
Which has exactly what to do with whatever the Bush administration did that could be equally doubtlessly illegal? Do two wrongs make a right now?
What is under assault is the peaceful transference of power, from administration to administration.
What a creative way to say "I want to let them get away with it."
After free and honest elections, the peaceful transference of power is the central hallmark of the western democracies.
We don't have free and honest elections any more. We do still have a perfectly peaceful transfer of power however, and this last one has been conspicuously peaceful. You're struggling to make a point that doesn't exist.
This is why Presidents are willing to give up power, however relucantly, at the end of their term. Because they are assured that neither they, their family, or their senior advisers will be subject to imprisonment or death by their successors.
Completely crazy conclusion. You're saying that presidents think that, if they didn't get caught in 4 or 8 short years, that they're home free no matter how atrocious their crimes. It may turn out to work like that -- but "yippee we got away with it" isn't quite the same thing as "peaceful transfer of power."
This is why GWB declined to have Bill Clinton prosecuted for perjury, despite his obvious guilt.
Baloney. Whether or not Clinton was prosecuted wasn't GWB's call. He was a president -- he wasn't a king.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8172674,"authorDomain":"rhwengr"}
They need to pull in Penetta also. He stated infadically, the CIA didn't lie, Now, detracts from his first statement.
Can we say Politics as usual.
What the left won't do to prtect their own (Pelosi)
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- 2 votes
#2 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT{"commentId":8175505,"authorDomain":"jbfarleft"}
What the left won't do to prtect their own
You can say the same thing about the right. Right?
{"commentId":8175505,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"jbfarleft"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":8175711,"authorDomain":"nforbes101"}
JB: Exactly. Why are Sanford and Ensign issues being shrugged off, but if a Democrat does it, they scream and whine for their resignation.
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":8181258,"authorDomain":"rhwengr"}
I'll scream to get rid of those two.
All also scream, if Pelosi lied to get this going, she needs to go too!
One, Sanford and Ensign, seems personal, Pelosi's could be Federal.
Did Penetta Lie the first time he said there were no CIA Lies?
Is thinking about a program, not implementing the program, but just thinking about it, Senate ready for discussion?
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8203436,"authorDomain":"jbfarleft"}
One, Sanford and Ensign, seems personal, Pelosi's could be Federal.
Sanford's doesn't seem personal. He used state money to fly to Argentina for a booty call. He paid the money back. If I or any other normal person had done that, they would have been prosecuted. It's like robbing a bank, using the money and repaying it and expecting all to be forgiven. LOL
Ensign and his parents need to be investigated.
With regards to the CIA issue, I want to know if Bush, Cheney, Pelosi, Panetta or the CIA lied.
The US government can no longer be trusted. I lost my trust in this government as a consequence of the actions it took due to the events of 9/11. Bush and Cheney used fear to stomp all over the US citizens constitutional rights in the name of security. Only the good Lord knows what else occurred as a consequence of the events of that sad day in United States history.
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{"commentId":8173289,"authorDomain":"comsen"}
Regarding the Bush administration's conduct in the war on terror, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said that "I've always preferred my idea of a commission of inquiry to look at all these issues."
In other words, "we'll investigate the Republicans, but not the Democrats".
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- 2 votes
#3 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:05 PM EDT{"commentId":8174221,"authorDomain":"steviegee"}
I say investigate the whole thing and let the chips fall where they may. There were some very high level abuses in the Bush Admin. If Pelosi or any other Dems did things that are illegal then they should be prosecuted. Dick Cheney is a bad man.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":8175082,"authorDomain":"twinports"}
It takes One to know One... how trite... and how so unforgiving these left wing lunatics are, not only are they unforgiving they are hippocrits on parade. This entire administration is like a SNL variety show you want to gong on the Gong Show. Lets look back 8 years to a CIA program that never happened so THE Illustrious Congress never was informed about its status. What a bunch of whimps and chimps.
{"commentId":8175082,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"twinports"}
- 2 votes
#4 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:13 PM EDT{"commentId":8175687,"authorDomain":"jbfarleft"}
It takes One to know One... how trite... and how so unforgiving these left wing lunatics are, not only are they unforgiving they are hippocrits on parade. This entire administration is like a SNL variety show you want to gong on the Gong Show. Lets look back 8 years to a CIA program that never happened so THE Illustrious Congress never was informed about its status. What a bunch of whimps and chimps.
Speaking of chimps, what is bush and rice up too these days? Cheney is the only one that continually graces us with his presence on television, spreading fear, like always, and the usual blah, blah, blah.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8184665,"authorDomain":"jilwater"}
Never happened? Tell that to the restaurant owner in my old town that got hauled away one night and returned three months later. It is documented, it was in the papers at the time. No legal represention allowed. Now we all know this wasn't the only person hauled away.
What about the many abuses that happened under the eye of the public at the Republican national convention where police and secret agents stormed the apartments of college kids and took away their computers? That was documented and briefly reported on.
There are so many things that Americans don't know and deserve the truth about. I have heard time and again from liberals that they don't care who was involved, the truth is what is important here. So the right should really stop spinning what they think 'liberals' want. What everyone should want is the truth.
{"commentId":8184665,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"jilwater"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8175360,"authorDomain":"jimbrad100"}
This is cover for Nancy Pelosi. Feinstein as a senator and Pelosi as a congressperson are from the same San Francisco Bay Area and have always been as far left as it's possible to be. So are Boxer and Panetta - all in the same 'club'. To decimate the CIA is a huge mistake - the same one Clinton and Carter made during their administrations.
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- 2 votes
#5 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:33 PM EDT{"commentId":8182889,"authorDomain":"nofluer"}
Given the CIA's history, perhaps "decimating" them would be insufficient. They seem to have a tendency to go rogue and to do unspeakable things.
{"commentId":8182889,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"nofluer"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8203750,"authorDomain":"jbfarleft"}
Should the US government just let the CIA do whatever the frack they want to? Why don't we create a new tax especially for the CIA and pay more to them than anyone else? Let them be totally autonomous, no reporting to any branch of the US government.
Why are people worshipping the CIA? If the CIA and the Bush administration (in office 1 yr. 10 mos.) had been doing their job appropriately, 9/11 would not have happened.
Don't discredit politicians to save Bush or Cheney or any of those bumbling morons in his cabinet from prosecution. It's not right, not fair and it's certainly not the Christian thing to do.
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{"commentId":8175385,"authorDomain":"kissmyarsenal"}
Feinstein is an ignorant, anti-American, piece of shirt, fool. She has no place in our government. Let's investigate her government contracts to family members rap sheet. Feinstein isn't fit for dog food.
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- 2 votes
#6 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:35 PM EDT{"commentId":8176577,"authorDomain":"arsine3463"}
Feinstein is an ignorant, anti-American, piece of shirt, fool.
Funny. I think the same of Dick Cheney.
{"commentId":8176577,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"arsine3463"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8177564,"authorDomain":"kissmyarsenal"}
Cheney is out, so now work on Feinstein with me, okay?
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{"commentId":8177810,"authorDomain":"nforbes101"}
sorry kiss, I don't think Buck works with trolls.
{"commentId":8177810,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"nforbes101"}
{"commentId":8178414,"authorDomain":"kissmyarsenal"}
Yeah, I doubt he works at all. Liberal activists are generally on disability or sapping off the government or a family member.
Now he might get together with other liberal dumbbutts to protest something. Has he worked with you on such a project?
{"commentId":8178414,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"kissmyarsenal"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8178421,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
LOL, there's plenty of shenanigans to go around - Sanford and Ensign on the R side and we have Rangel, Murtha, John Conyers, Feinstein herself, Harry Reid, Edwards, etc...the D's circle the wagons and this little stunt is exactly the same thing.
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. And what goes around, comes around.
{"commentId":8178421,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":8178867,"authorDomain":"kissmyarsenal"}
Ain't that the truth.
{"commentId":8178867,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"kissmyarsenal"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8175715,"authorDomain":"malankuhn"}
Regarding the 8-year-old counterterrorism program, the Bush administration's failure to notify Congress "is a big problem, because the law is very clear," said Senate Intelligence Committee chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
Congress should investigate the secrecy because "it could be illegal," Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said.
If the law is "very clear", then why does Dick Durbin use weasel words like "could"?
One would think that the D-Ill. could commit to stronger verb if there was a very clear violation of the law.
But he didn't, so, Cheney did nothing wrong.
Back to your regular scheduled musings.
{"commentId":8175715,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"malankuhn"}
- 2 votes
#7 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:59 PM EDT{"commentId":8175877,"authorDomain":"Profchaos"}
the senator's statement was made on fox news. doesn't that make it extremely biased and fake?
i mean everything on fox news is a lie right? that's all i ever read here.
this is like the third time they are trying to throw cheny under the bus. smoke and mirrors to distract from the current events in the country/world.
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- 3 votes
#8 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:11 PM EDT{"commentId":8175953,"authorDomain":"malankuhn"}
They were out-FOX'ed
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":8175894,"authorDomain":"the-force5"}
Why they don't invetigate JFK, Jimmy carter, Lyndon B Jhonson, Bill Clinton, Gerald Ford., and Ted Kennedy and Mary Joe?. It seems this is a vendetta .,
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- 1 vote
#9 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:13 PM EDT{"commentId":8176158,"authorDomain":"malankuhn"}
Are you implying that the Bay of Pigs was possibly illegal?
Maybe that Johnson did not tell Congress everything the CIA was doing in Vietnam?
That Ted Kennedy may have done something more insidious than drinking and driving?
{"commentId":8176158,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"malankuhn"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8175930,"authorDomain":"the-force5"}
The American Gv't is now a unilateral congress,God Bless America, there is no democracy anymore, just commands(orders).,
{"commentId":8175930,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"the-force5"}
- 2 votes
#10 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:16 PM EDT{"commentId":8176026,"authorDomain":"nofluer"}
Hummm... Feinstein has a problem with illegal things? She didn't seem to have any trouble when Bush and Obama decided to toss the Constitution out the window with the "Patriot" act or the Military Commissions act or FISA... Has she had a change of heart? Or doesn't she know the meaning of the word, hypocrite?
{"commentId":8176026,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"nofluer"}
- 3 votes
#11 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:24 PM EDT{"commentId":8176175,"authorDomain":"gator025"}
look like more blame shift is about to happen. They can't get enough.
{"commentId":8176175,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"gator025"}
- 2 votes
#12 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:35 PM EDT{"commentId":8176190,"authorDomain":"magnoliabel"}
Watch out folks the Communist Democrats are trying to distract us from what they are doing. Don't believe anything these lying Communist say unless it is about taxing or controlling us.
{"commentId":8176190,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"magnoliabel"}
- 2 votes
#13 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:36 PM EDT{"commentId":8176324,"authorDomain":"malankuhn"}
But if they start procedings against Bush/Cheney, they may forget to raise our taxes, reduce our emissions and start another pork... I mean stimulous package.
{"commentId":8176324,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"malankuhn"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8176919,"authorDomain":"rallynow"}
Politics, politics, politics. If the Left is willing to give up Pelosi, I wonder if they are also willing to give up Obama and Biden after the GOP regains the House and Senate. You just can't continue to do business like this. Every administration can define torture in a different way. Every administration can decide to take the last administration to court for whatever they want provided the Congress goes along. If Obama is right about one thing......and thats about all.....is that we gotta look for real solutions to our problems, not keep assigning blame to the previous administrations for what is deemed bad decisions.
{"commentId":8176919,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"rallynow"}
- 2 votes
#14 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:33 PM EDT{"commentId":8193992,"authorDomain":"dmrt01"}
Commoncents- The obama supporters have become hateful and deceitful.
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{"commentId":8177247,"authorDomain":"lastories"}
Diane Feinstein suggests the CIA broke the law. You have to be kidding me. Why would anyone quote a biased politician? Where is Pelosi hiding these days?
{"commentId":8177247,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"lastories"}
- 3 votes
#15 - Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:01 PM EDT{"commentId":8180047,"authorDomain":"BigSully"}
As a society we'll be bickering about "the right did this, and the left did that" and every 4-8 years we'll vote either one or the other into the position to bend us waaaay over and have their ways with us, ignoring the constitution and sticking pretty much to the same plan until the end of time.
Think about it-
When Bushy was in the white house, the democrats hated the war and torture- What happened?
Now it's a necessity and imperative to stay, and even the people that torture say it only gives you the answers you seek to stop the torture. Sure they'll admit to planning on bombing a building....but they'll also admit to sinking the Lusitania, inventing Twinkies, and cracking the liberty bell- Just so long as you stop pouring water into their mouths and clamping pliers on the genitals of their children-
ht
tp:
//rwor.org/johnyoo/index.html (have a look if you don't believe it)
We need to stop fighting with eachother about left/right issues- If you take a step back and look at the conditioning we're under, it's easy to see.
OR, don't.... you are right- the lefties are liberal idiots that are ruining the country, so we should vote republican.... and the righties are conservative idiots that are ruining the country, so we should vote democrat...... and over and over and over and over-
Wake up folks! It used to be cute watching you fight with eachother about nothing.... but it's growing old- Both sides of the political coin are manipulated by the bankers- They don't care if it's heads or tails- They OWN the coin! The game is rigged!
I thought this was common knowledge!
{"commentId":8180047,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"BigSully"}
- 2 votes
#16 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:50 AM EDT{"commentId":8180919,"authorDomain":"lastories"}
Very true.
{"commentId":8180919,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"lastories"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":8180380,"authorDomain":"lightningtransport1"}
cia-------------------oh the cia comes up again and again and again and again........................dont you think the cia would have informed congress of cheneys...ABUSE OF POWER....................unless of course they have been on he same page---------------------mr congress page the cia over that< cause albeeit right on fine gaurd defense ----obviously cia fumble----bunch of untrained lacksadaisical uncooperatives.-nsa type x_tar fan....cia suspect......rogue lead.....by way of foreign nation.peabody.com
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#17 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:32 AM EDT{"commentId":8180455,"authorDomain":"dmrt01"}
Kiss my arsenal-
Lets also investigate Pelosi. She and her hubby did some shifty things with their companies.
Also, lets check out her I.G. Scary thought. Scary thought that she is next in line to govern after Biden. That windbag - "has been" should spend less money on tightening her face and instead, invest in some "arricept".
{"commentId":8180455,"threadId":"624977","contentId":"3019839","authorDomain":"dmrt01"}
- 1 vote
#18 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:43 AM EDT{"commentId":8181082,"authorDomain":"richardsaenz"}
Diedre,
Are you a Republican, stupid, or both? My guess is both!!! Do better research you fool!
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{"commentId":8183144,"authorDomain":"BigSully"}
They are corrupt....the other side is just as corrupt- They cover each other's butts and go have a laugh at our expense behind the scene-
It's a WWE wrestling match, you stooges! They put up a big show, tell each other how stupid and corrupt each of them are, and go have drinks after the match! (and you fools buy into Rowdy Roddy piper calling the The Ultimate Warrior and idiot, while they are roommates..... it's frustrating you don't see the folly of bickering about NOTHING.....ABSOLUTE AND COMPLETE NOTHING!!!!)
Aren't you folks paying even a lick of attention?
C'MON!!!!
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8195052,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
Rs is a troll. And he doesn't even know what he is talking about. Hit the ignore button.
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{"commentId":8181076,"authorDomain":"richardsaenz"}
Cheney is just a dick! He is the worst piece of sh*t any of us has ever seen!!!
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- 3 votes
#19 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:54 AM EDT{"commentId":8193918,"authorDomain":"dmrt01"}
R Saenz=
You pathetic leech.
You go and do the research-- Or are you afraid to know the truth about the idiots in Washington you support.
You Moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8203822,"authorDomain":"jbfarleft"}
Cheney is just a dick!
Cheney and all of his republican friends need to go on a hunting trip.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":8181280,"authorDomain":"mbbeach723"}
This is the past - we have serious problems now and in our future if the present admistration does not start doing something about the economy, North Korea and many other issues. Leave the past alone and work on our current problems.
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#20 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:27 AM EDT{"commentId":8181446,"authorDomain":"SuaSponte"}
Barry stated that he wanted to move forward and quit looking to the past.
So.
Either he is lying, thus the prompting of the AG in "possibly" pursuing.
He does want to move forward, while also trying to appease to those who voted for him (this being one of the things they wanted...heads to roll)
Or the circle of dems that be basically told Barry to drive on with hopeychangey, we got you into office, now we're going after the last administration.
And finally, an extreme lame attempt to cover for Nancy "the blinker" Pelosi.
"Kept in the dark about programs"? Yes, spend your days being briefed on things NOT happening, that's the ticket.
Nothing but politics and typcial beltway CYA.
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- 1 vote
#21 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:10 AM EDT{"commentId":8181581,"authorDomain":"davidemeadows"}
They should investigate other crimes by Republicans, too. Wall Street crooks are still there...
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- 1 vote
#22 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:31 AM EDT{"commentId":8182896,"authorDomain":"amphoto87"}
I think its ridiculous people would defend Cheney just to save face and defend their party....He's an idiot just like Pelosi..ooooo a liberal actually admitting Pelosi is a joke! Open your eyes people, they're all untrustworthy snakes.
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#23 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:35 AM EDT{"commentId":8183098,"authorDomain":"repoman"}
What a joke. This will be a typical partisan witch hunt. I love the precedent this sets because when it is done and the Dems lose teh white house again the Republicans can prosecute Obama for every violation of the constitution...maybe with all the back and forth prosecution our government will start thinking about what they are doing and will do less damage....
well I can hope.
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- 2 votes
#24 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:50 AM EDT{"commentId":8185881,"authorDomain":"ScienceGuy"}
The Bush/Cheney regime took an ideological dump on the U.S. Constitution. The ends DO NOT always justify the means. Gonzales, Rove, Yoo, and Rumsfeld should also be held accountable for their actions.
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- 2 votes
#25 - Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:15 PM EDT{"commentId":8191311,"authorDomain":"jimbrad100"}
...and Clinton and Carter for their inaction?
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{"commentId":8195099,"authorDomain":"fisherlady-1"}
hmm, seems like I saw this exact same post in another place. Try something original. And answer the question on 25.1 - inquiring minds want to know.
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{"commentId":8204059,"authorDomain":"jbfarleft"}
The Bush/Cheney regime took an ideological dump on the U.S. Constitution. The ends DO NOT always justify the means. Gonzales, Rove, Yoo, and Rumsfeld should also be held accountable for their actions.
Wrong. We should prosecute Bill Clinton because of 9/11 and the freedoms that we lost as a consequence. [Sarcasm]
Perhaps, Chelsey Clinton will run and be elected President in the future and she will find Osama bin Laden to make her father look better just like George W. Bush went to war with Iraq to capture Saddam Hussein to make his father , George. H. W. Bush look better. I don't think so. I'm guessing that Jeb Bush will run at some point in the future when he can stand up to the scrutiny and he will go after bin Laden. However, I'm hopeful that President Obama will find bin Laden before his term runs out in 2012. ROFL
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