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Gibbs: Media 'obsessions' prolonging Gates story

Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:27 AM EDT
politics, us, obama, white-house, barack-obama, harvard-scholar
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Dr. Henry Louis Gates Jr. participates in a panel on CNN's live show 'Moment of Truth: Countdown to Black in America 2,' Wednesday, July 22, 2009 in New York. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)

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WASHINGTON — The White House says the media's "obsessions" are keeping alive President Barack Obama's comments about the arrest of a Harvard scholar seen trying to get into his own house.

Asked whether Obama regretted commenting on the matter, spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters that the president probably would regret distracting the media with "obsessions."

Gibbs says Obama has "great respect" for police officers and understands what a hard job they have.

He also says Obama has said most of what he's going to say on the matter.

When questioned Wednesday night about the incident, Obama said the Cambridge, Mass., police had "acted stupidly."

In an interview a day later, he said "cooler heads should have prevailed."

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crusader-637277

Yep,

Obama's opinion of the police went from "they acted stupidly" to "cooler heads should have prevailed" to "great respect". Perhaps he should have read the police report before he commented. I'd want this to go away too. What a statesman huh???

  • 10 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:17 PM EDT
I am American

If only the man could think before he speaks, he could have avoided it all together. But alas we have an IDIOT ruining this great country...

  • 13 votes
#1.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:08 PM EDT
blll

It's time we equip our police with wearable video cameras. This whole issue would be a non-issue if we could review exactly what happened.

We have the technology.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:33 PM EDT
Norcal2

Whether or not the police acted stupidly may be seen in the charges being dropped. I don't know I'd blame the media for the attention this teeny tiny part of the evening is getting, my guess is Obama did the job in explaining healthcare insurance. Maybe the fact that republicans talk about anything but that is actually good news.

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:49 PM EDT
diversity

Obama's arrogance and false promises of CHANGE is been very disappointing already and for him to even comment on a civil manner just because it involved an African-American scholar goes to show how out of line he was. I seriously doubt if Gates was that of another race he wouldn't have said anything. Its sad that we all now have to feel less favored than others if were not "Obamanatics". He's supposed to be supportive of Peace Officers and understand what they go through everyday dealing with loud ass people and unruly behavior. I don't like cops anymore than the average Joe but this cop must feel really bad to have the President talk down on him without knowing the facts. If its true that Gates said something about the cop's mom in anger than that shows how unruly even a scholar can be.

  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:04 PM EDT
EyesWideOpen-507402

President Obama said what Blacks and Hispanics already know: That law enforcement generally view them as probable lawbreakers, rather than law-abiding citizens. Whereas most Whites are given the "benefit of the doubt", many Blacks and Hispanics are suspects until confirmed otherwise. Because it isn't your reality, doesn't mean it isn't for others. Obama touched the "third rail" and now that's all that matters. This provides an opportunity for Obama detractors to sidetrack the 'Health Care' issue. America, don't fall for the distraction! It's a classic GOP tactic. You're going to have to do better than that!

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:14 PM EDT
OK People

Mr. President:

It is NOT the media's "obsessions" keeping alive your slanderous comment, it is your stupidity. Now, do the right thing and issue a FULL APOLOGYto Sgt. Crowley and the Cambridge Police Department.

Anything less is UNACCEPTABLE.

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:33 PM EDT
themman

BO was the one who seemed obsessed with the situation when he thought the police were bullying a black man and made his comment. Now he says the media is obsessed and he wishes it would go away. Nay Mr. President, this needs to languish for a while. If it leads to that, you need to comment on how stupid your comment was when you apologize to Sgt. Crowley and the Cambridge Police Department for it.

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:47 PM EDT
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Jay Butler

Ahh. Live by the sword, die by the sword. You cannot turn off media attention when you don't want it. Obama wanted attention for Obamacare. Thus, the prime time news conference. But, he wants the Gates story to go away. If that is so, he should not have "stupidly" commented on it as he did.

  • 20 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:43 PM EDT
Dan-12345

Thank you very much Jay!!!!!!!!!

I was going to make a very similar response as to,how an administration that now wants' to pick and choose what publicity it gets'...

Interesting to see the media is now starting to come out of the warm confines of their unabashed love affair with the Obama administration......interesting indeed

  • 9 votes
#2.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
I am American

Hey I have a question about CNN, what does it say that it is okay to have a show about Black in America? I am asking seriously.... If some white group did that they are raciest. but a prime show about black. The divide is getting to be a huge problem.

If we are to move forward as a country should we keep up this crap and stand for it?

I vote NO!!!

  • 6 votes
#2.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:16 PM EDT
CCArm

Hey I have a question about CNN, what does it say that it is okay to have a show about Black in America?

There is nothing keeping you from doing a show about white people, however, 95% of the shows are already about white America.

The chip on your shoulder is showing.

  • 5 votes
#2.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:40 PM EDT
vol fan in chatt, tn

Bingo, Jay!

  • 2 votes
#2.4 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:41 PM EDT
Kate-546578

, what does it say that it is okay to have a show about Black in America?

I had the same thought. It is irresponsible to fan the flame. and they certainly lost no in doing so.

We have Black History Month, Black Entertainment Television and worst of all, The Black Caucus. What? Are there no whites, Asians, Hispanics or any other designation you care to name, in the districts/states those members are sworn (purported) to represent?

If you choose to segregate yourself and perpetuate your grievance mentality to each succeeding generation then the problem will must assuredly continue. It doesn't help to have a President who also fans the flames, but it is to be expected from one who spent 20 years listening to Jeremiah Wright.

As to the besotted media, I think that maybe, just maybe they will realize that they have created a monster and as Dr. Frankenstein would be the first to tell them - monsters cannot be controlled.

  • 6 votes
#2.5 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:43 PM EDT
I am American

CC,

it was a question, and thanks for showing your rude side creep

  • 2 votes
#2.6 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:46 PM EDT
OK People

Right you are, Kate! That's why this July, CNN continues its investigation of the most challenging issues facing Anglo-Americans with "White in America." Soledad O'Brien reports on people who are using ground-breaking solutions to transform the White experience.

Perhaps this long-awaited documentary will help other races begin to understand the complex, multi-dimensional plight of the white.

  • 2 votes
#2.7 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:29 PM EDT
EyesWideOpen-507402

"My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing..." Come on, you all know the words!

  • 1 vote
#2.8 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:40 PM EDT
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mark-348631

so i guess people think its ok to have a public servant come to your house and arrest you for no reason?nazi tactics?

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:48 PM EDT
Jay Butler

A neighbor reported a potential break-in in progress. In that neighborhood, there have been nine daytime front-door break-ins just in the first quarter of this year.

Should the police officer have left without verifying Gates identity and address?

Nine daytime, front-door break-ins reported in the neighborhood in the first quarter of 2009; Gates' own door damaged by a previous, possible break-in attempt, according to the police report.

Boston Herald (link)

  • 8 votes
#3.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:52 PM EDT
Kshark

Seriously mate, give it up.

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:52 PM EDT
George Spring, TX

Mark,

Gates wasn't arrested for no reason. He was screaming racist remarks to the police officer. Gates like Obama feel that as black men they can push a white cop around. I think he guessed wrong. He was detained for Disorderly Conduct as well he should have. You don't challenge a cop whether you are white black or green

  • 11 votes
#3.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:54 PM EDT
Kshark

My 3.2 post was to Mark.

  • 4 votes
#3.4 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:07 PM EDT
AMphoto

he wasn't screaming racist remarks..he was screaming the cop was a racist. Everyone is entitled to their opinion....except Obama and gates.

Regardless I think this whole situation is stupid...stupid on the professors part and stupid on the cops part. They both acted 'stupidly'. END OF STORY!

  • 6 votes
#3.5 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:23 PM EDT
I am American

AM, you forgot STUPID on the Prez for sticking his head into something he should not have...

  • 12 votes
#3.6 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:31 PM EDT
EJCanavan

True AMphoto, but who's life do you think is going to be absolutely destroyed by this ? I can bet ya it isn't going to be Gates. Now the reputation of the entire police force has been compromised within their community and we can thank Obama for that.

  • 4 votes
#3.7 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:12 PM EDT
AMphoto

I really don't think his life is going to be destroyed by this. It is one claim against him. He has the support of his community and department, this will be a small bump in the road. Obama did not create this mess, Crowley and Gates did. Obama was asked a question and gave his opinion..was that poor judgement? I'd agree with that, but I don't think he is to blame for what happens to Crowley.

  • 3 votes
#3.8 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:25 PM EDT
Kshark

EJCanavan--

It won't just be that community.

I think the reputation nation wide of the Police forces have probably been compromised by this. If it was just Gates running his mouth off fine we could chalk it up to a ego, as I am doing that more than race.

But since Obama had to say something, sans knowing the facts, HE opened the racial issue even wider. That doesn't sit well since he is the first half black president and white people did vote for him. Now our President opens the race issue. Not good.

  • 5 votes
#3.9 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:27 PM EDT
caroaber

Sgt. Crowley is fine. He has the support of his superiors and a good number of fraternal police organizations throughout the country. He has already said he will not apologize, and I doubt Prof. Gates will sue, despite the noisy threats being made.

Now the Cambridge P.D. is trying to elicit an apology from the President. They, like Gates, will not get one. Mr. Obama was goaded at his press conference, stepped into a trap, and is being castigated for being frank and supporting his friend. It's time for this distraction to go away.

No lawsuit, and NO apologies. Prof. Gates will have to take this one on the arm.

  • 1 vote
#3.10 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:43 PM EDT
CCArm

I think the reputation nation wide of the Police forces have probably been compromised by this.

No they do just fine on their own. Remember the trooper and the Ambulance driver in Oklahoma? There are many stories of blacks being targeted by cops for many many years. If your white you cannot possibly know.

  • 3 votes
#3.11 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:52 PM EDT
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Kshark

So what Gates and Obama can have their say but neither Crowley, nor the officers and department cannot defend themselves and provide there side?

Oh brilliant. What a President.

  • 14 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:50 PM EDT
George Spring, TX

The Cop has to be in the wrong, Gates is black

  • 10 votes
#4.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:56 PM EDT
Kshark

George Spring, TX--

Damn silly me I forgot about that little factoid.

Tsk tsk on me. LOL

  • 8 votes
#4.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:09 PM EDT
Kim-298921

Crowley has been all over the media saying he did nothing wrong. He has had his say too.

  • 8 votes
#4.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:20 PM EDT
Kshark

Kim-298921--

I never said he wasn't or hasn't, but this message came from the esteemed all might White House press mouthpiece. Pandora's Box has been opened enough here, it won't go away for a wee bit.

  • 7 votes
#4.4 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:32 PM EDT
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ronniehutch

Gates is a black radical and baited the officer. He wanted an opportunity to sue. That's their game. Gates & Obama should apologize. Whites are sick and tired of this "sue whittey" routine which is esclating since Obama's presidency. They are setting race relations back 100 years! White policeman can't be second guessing everything they do, worried about being sued by blacks who are looking to do just that!

    Reply#5 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:55 PM EDT
    Fred-1203748

    Well, maybe if Gibbs had not told the media yesterday that Obama didn't call the police "stupid" in his remarks at the news conference, it would go away! You can't tell the world something on live television then the next day deny he said it! Don't lie or was that Gibbs' job? Obama should have replied he did not know the facts of the incident and refused to reply. Instead he made himself look foolish by giving the idiotic answer he gave. Why is Obama so set on injecting racial prejudice in this incident without knowing any of the facts? Could be because he's prejudice himself! He should't be because he is the President of the United States! He should represent all Americans equally!

    • 6 votes
    Reply#6 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:56 PM EDT
    George Spring, TX

    Fred,

    Obama first represents people of color, then his political hacks from Chicago, then the Unions, then the democrats, THEN the rest of America

    • 12 votes
    #6.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:59 PM EDT
    I am American

    OMG!! well said George

    • 7 votes
    #6.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:11 PM EDT
    PanhandleMike

    Wonder why Obama didn't just come out and say what's on his mind? "Whitey screwed up."

    • 5 votes
    #6.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:51 PM EDT
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    magsby47

    I want Newsvine to stop putting Gates' picture on here every day. It's tiresome - he looks like an impudent little snot. Please stop it!

    Obama was extremely stupid to comment on the Gates issue at the news conference. He did a huge amount of damage to himself. He not only attacked the Cambridge Police in that remark, he also got in some snarkiness about Chicago Police, a large, large number of whom are black and Latino.

    I'm sure Gibbs wants this to go away, but after almost 2 years of the media getting orgasmic every time Obama opened his mouth about anything, I'm actually surprised that they haven't buried this story yet.

    I didn't vote for Obama or McCain, although I did vote, but I was actually starting to warm up to Obama a little, but Weds. night did it for me. Coupled with the ranting racist Rev. Wright, and now this remark about the poor woeful black man, not to mention the remark about his grandmother being a "typical white person," he's done as far as I'm concerned. Nothing presidential in that kind of rhetoric.

    Everybody lambasts Bush for being a country bumpkin, etc., but can you imagine what the media would have done to Bush if he had ever made a similar racial statement? Obama is still getting off easy, as far as I'm concerned.

    I watched several of the news shows last night just to see how they were handling this and CNN and MSNBC were of course all apologists for Obama and Gates. Newsvine has Gates photo all over the place for at least 4 days in a row now.

    I guess another celebrity will have to die to get attention off this issue. Shows just how superficial our society is - we should be discussing the health care reform issue and the economic mess, but we're all getting lathered up about some insignificant college professor and a college town LEO.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#8 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:13 PM EDT
    Kim-298921Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    I want Newsvine to stop putting Gates' picture on here every day. It's tiresome - he looks like an impudent little snot. Please stop it!

    Don't you mean he's uppity, Magsby?

    He's above his 'place' isn't he, Magsby?

    Do you refer to people like Gates as "n-i-___-r" Magsby?

    • 3 votes
    #8.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:23 PM EDT
    Kavidog22

    ...poor kim, you've clearly missed the point....(laughing)

    • 8 votes
    #8.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:26 PM EDT
    I am American

    Sh!ts deep in here!!! jezzzz can't we all get along?!?!?!

    if they want it to go away then stop talking about it, They have a great staff up in the white house;-}

    • 2 votes
    #8.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:34 PM EDT
    TurkNuggetDeleted
    Abut Libsissy

    That's it Kimmy attak where it hurts, call out white guy work on the guilt. We libs know that guilt is a gift that keeps on giving. Heck in our world even when they mean no harm we can still twist it into something that is harmful. Go for guilt jugular wow! That is some crazy lib stuff there. You are a true lib warrior sqwak-sqwak-sqwak!

    • 2 votes
    #8.5 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:39 PM EDT
    Kim-298921

    TurkNugget:

    I'm a bigot?

    What do you base that on? Who am I bigoted against?

    I look forward to your answers.

    • 2 votes
    #8.6 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:24 PM EDT
    Kim-298921

    Abutt:

    Sounds like you have nothing to contribute to this discussion.

    • 1 vote
    #8.7 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:25 PM EDT
    tyler

    Don't you mean he's uppity, Magsby?

    He's above his 'place' isn't he, Magsby?

    Do you refer to people like Gates as "n-i-___-r" Magsby?

    Stop insinuating other users are racist, Kim. If you think there's something racist in the comment, go ahead and address that.

    magsby47, you can always read something else. Newsvine isn't hurting for non-Gates stories.

    • 3 votes
    #8.8 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:56 PM EDT
    Kim-298921

    I think I don't need to 'insinuate', 'infer' or anything if someone says that a black man looks 'arrogant' to them.

    Also, no comment on the insulting remarks thrown my way, Tyler? The ones that call me a bigot and a troll?

    Objectivity? Neutrality? You could PRETEND to have those toward me, maybe?

    • 2 votes
    #8.9 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:14 PM EDT
    Kate-546578

    if someone says that a black man looks 'arrogant' to them.

    Arrogance is color blind. Coming to a conclusion based upon someones actions and demeanor is hardly racist.

    • 1 vote
    #8.10 - Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:43 AM EDT
    DEBEKI

    Kim:

    You are right - Tyler - you should have addressed the comments calling Kim a troll and a bigot - if her comments have been deleted then so should those attacking her.

    I call em like I see em and Tyler this looks biased and unfair.

    • 2 votes
    #8.11 - Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:39 PM EDT
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    More Than Happy

    The cop's actions were indefensible; no one has ever been harmed by being yelled at. That kind of fascist nonsense might work elsewhere, but not in Cambridge.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#9 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:14 PM EDT
    Dave - Twin Cities

    So you do this all the time? Yell at cops that is ... And they just turn their back and let you make an a$$ of yourself without asking you to calm down or refrain from the belligerent activity?

    Or do you do like a majority of of people and respect them for the job they are doing and work them respectfully to resolve the situation so that both of you can move on about your business?

    Gates was being a jerk and a crowd was gathering. Yes, they could have left, and maybe should have, but the action they took was not unwarranted nor extreme.

    President Obama is as much to blame for the continuation of this story as anyone. He made a racially divisive comment that he shouldn't have and doesn't have enough humility to admit he made a mistake.

    • 9 votes
    #9.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:38 PM EDT
    More Than Happy

    He made a racially divisive comment that he shouldn't have and doesn't have enough humility to admit he made a mistake.

    Dave, the Sgt. Crowley acted incredibly stupidly; they arrested someone in their own home for yelling. If a cop started bullying me in my home, I'd start yelling, too.

    Or do you do like a majority of of people and respect them for the job they are doing and work them respectfully to resolve the situation so that both of you can move on about your business?

    Are you running for office or something? I do not trust the police as a whole, and this situation is yet another example of why. How can we trust the police when they would readily arrest us for nothing?

    • 2 votes
    #9.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
    Shirley Draeger

    And you would probably go to jail and your ticket would not be dismissed. If cops are called for a break-in and then ask you to identify yourself that doesn't strike me as unreasonable. The police did not escalate this, Gates did and he was the one spewing racial slurs and yelling about being asked a question. And honestly, his actions didn't warrant a great deal of respect in return. Sorry for you More than Happy that you hate and distrust the police. Perhaps you should work with your local authorities to better the force in you area. Or go live where there are no police to protect you. How many cops do you suppose are shot in the line of duty, just asking someone a question? He was arrested for disorderly conduct, not nothing.

    • 5 votes
    #9.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:04 PM EDT
    Dave - Twin Cities

    Dave, the Sgt. Crowley acted incredibly stupidly; they arrested someone in their own home for yelling.

    From all accounts that I've seen, the officer simply did his job to ascertain that Gates actually did live there. Nothing more. Nothing less. Unless you are willing to have your local police accept the word of a possible burglar, the officer was doing the same that you should expect from a cop if they were investigating a possible break in at your home.

    Gates didn't provide him an ID (his college ID wouldn't have an address on it) that would confirm his address. The cop, using the information he had was able to confirm that it was in fact his home and apparently was satisfied and willing to leave the situation. But Mr. Gates continued his unprovoked verbal attack/assault on the officer even after they had proceeded outside and the officer had asked him to quit and had warned him of the potential of arrest.

    If a cop started bullying me in my home, I'd start yelling, too.

    Good luck with that. Don't call me needing bail money.

    How can we trust the police when they would readily arrest us for nothing?

    Would agree had it been "nothing". Persistent public disorderly conduct elevated to a degree that a crowd of onlookers begins to congregate typically doesn't get classified as "nothing".

    • 7 votes
    #9.4 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:08 PM EDT
    More Than Happy

    If cops are called for a break-in and then ask you to identify yourself that doesn't strike me as unreasonable.

    And he did identify himself, and it proved his residence. He wasn't arrested for breaking and entering!

    Sorry for you More than Happy that you hate and distrust the police.

    Oh, are you a victim in this too? It's incidents like these that show that police cannot be trusted in general; if they're cornered, they'll just make stuff up.

    Good luck with that. Don't call me needing bail money.

    It's called the 1st Amendment.

    Persistent public disorderly conduct elevated to a degree that a crowd of onlookers begins to congregate typically doesn't get classified as "nothing".

    Onlooking and yelling are not crimes! The officer had the ID, he should have just walked away, but he wanted to prove a point.

    • 1 vote
    #9.5 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:16 PM EDT
    Kate-546578

    Happy (Not having seen your ID, you could be Dopey, Grumpy or Sneezey for all we know),

    Someone made a very pertinent point on another thread regarding this that you obviously haven't taken into consideration. Due to the wave of foreclosures, just having the address on your ID isn't proof you are authorized to be there. That has implications for all of us which means it would behoove us to cooperate with law enforcement officers if we find ourselves in a similar situation.

    • 2 votes
    #9.6 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:58 PM EDT
    More Than Happy

    Due to the wave of foreclosures, just having the address on your ID isn't proof you are authorized to be there.

    He wasn't arrested for breaking and entering, he was arrested for yelling. I don't know what magical utopia you live in where you can trust the government, but this isn't it.

    • 1 vote
    #9.7 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:24 PM EDT
    Dave - Twin Cities

    It's called the 1st Amendment.

    Yes it is. But it still has to be done with respect. Gates was verbally abusive toward the officer. That's not a 1st Amendment right.

    yelling are not crimes!

    It is a crime when it is not down peacefully and/or with intent to assault or provoke another individual.

    he was arrested for yelling.

    He was not arrested for "yelling". Yelling is not a crime.

    • 3 votes
    #9.8 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:49 PM EDT
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    wooks

    Everyone can make an error in judgement when in a verbal defense of a friend, even a President. Put in a similar stressful situation, I am convinced I would have reacted like both the Professor and the Policeman. This story will continue to attract media attention as long as it continues to sell soap.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#10 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:18 PM EDT
    I am American

    That is why the Prez has a staff, to stop him from becoming an ass and doing STUPID things like this.. but he has a POOR staff to work with, friends and all that, they can't handle the BIG STAGE...

    • 7 votes
    #10.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:36 PM EDT
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    Jim Fawcett

    Even some blacks think Gates was wrong. http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-303137

    • 5 votes
    Reply#11 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:18 PM EDT
    More Than Happy

    Even some whites think the cop was wrong... what's your point?

    • 7 votes
    #11.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:21 PM EDT
    Reply
    AMphoto

    p.s. i think you're all stupid for commenting about this.

    how about that!

      Reply#12 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:25 PM EDT
      I am American

      takes one to know one, stupid is as stupid does.

      • 4 votes
      #12.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:38 PM EDT
      AMphoto

      hey i meant that not excluding myself...we all have no idea what happened, yet talk about it like we do.

        #12.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:22 PM EDT
        I am American

        Come on that was funny:-}

          #12.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:24 PM EDT
          AMphoto

          haha it was it was

            #12.4 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:27 PM EDT
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            Abut Libsissy

            When ObamaCzar gets his own police you guys will be sorry!!

            • 5 votes
            Reply#13 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:35 PM EDT
            John Pileggi

            Mr. Gibbs is presumably familiar with the media and how stories get legs. Therefore, if the President should decide to answer a question that may have been avoided with a "local matter, I do not have all the facts" with an impassioned defense of a friend, he should not be surprised with the result. Besides, the media needed a break from the Jackson story.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#14 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:47 PM EDT
            Shirley Draeger

            Good grief, AMPhoto & I am American, go to your rooms! This continues to be news because the President foolishly editorialized without all of the facts. He then was surprised that the words he spoke touched so many people. He then went on to reiterate his previous statement, further editorializing about police procedures. Everything our President said concerning this is utterly breathtaking. More breathtaking is the fact he didn't actually know when to stop and cut his losses, stop the bleeding. I expect better judgement from the person at the top.

            • 6 votes
            Reply#15 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:55 PM EDT
            More Than Happy

            Shirley, someone was arrested in their own home for yelling... what other facts need to be known?

            • 2 votes
            #15.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:57 PM EDT
            I am American

            Shirley, surly you are not reading my post...

            try again; oh wait, can I get a do-over

            • 1 vote
            #15.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:01 PM EDT
            Shirley Draeger

            Well, the cops were called to investigate a break-in. When they ask the man inside who he is I think it is fair for them to expect a civil answer. That did not happen. I will reiterate, if your local cops are called to your home by a concerned citizen they are rather obligated to find out who indeed is inside. That is what these cops were trying to do. Had nothing to do with race. And truly, if you are a smart person you would be wise to not start screaming at a cop and refusing their requests to step outside and provide proper ID. He didn't flash him an ID. He told him who he was. By all accounts, the cop told Gates his name more than once, at his request. Gates' behavior is what escalated this to disorderly conduct.

            • 3 votes
            #15.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:21 PM EDT
            vol fan in chatt, tn

            Obama himself is keeping this alive. Just SHUT UP! But no, he has to keep making excuses and retelling us in different ways that the officers still acted "stupidly". How bout the Prez is acting stupidly? He needs to just say, I am sorry I made a mistake and it "was a boneheaded thing to do", as he has said so many times, but he can't, he can't do it becasue that'll anger too many people of color so he keeps straddling the fence. Brilliant!

            BTW, how did this reporter even get to ask such a question? Aren't they all scripted beforehand?

            • 6 votes
            #15.4 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:52 PM EDT
            Dave - Twin Cities

            Just SHUT UP!

            Two levels of escalation to this story.

            1. Had Gates "Just SHUT UP!" it would have never hit the media in the first place.
            2. Had Obama "Just SHUT UP!" when asked the question Tuesday night, we wouldn't be talking about it three days later.

            Gates and Obama are the only two people making what should have been a "non story" the biggest racial discussion in decades. And at who's expense? Black Americans in my opinion.

            • 3 votes
            #15.5 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:18 PM EDT
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            Thomas-Jefferson

            I think its not a coincidence that Gates was doing a show for CNN called being Black in America and when the officer told him there was a reported break-in and asked to see ID, Gates said 'Why because I'm a black man in America?' I believe the media and the education system conspire to make blacks feel like victims, to make them suspicious of whites, to make them resentful of whites, to make them feel they are owed something by whites, and worst of all they try to 'help' by inspiring 'racial pride' in blacks, which only widens the divide.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#16 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:56 PM EDT
            SeattleBobb

            I found it funny how this point of view tries to skew the obsession to be solely on Obama's comments. What about the obsession with the cop and with Gates and with racial profiling.

            The media is obessing over every aspect of this story. We have people dying in wars, homeless on the street, children being neglected, and the media wants to focus on this stupid story.

            I do not support any type of discrimination or racism in anyway, but would this story have lasted more than about 24 hours in the media if the cop was anything but Caucasian and Gates was anything but African American? Or would Obama say the cop acted stupidly if the cop was African American and Gates was Caucasian??

            • 1 vote
            Reply#17 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:58 PM EDT
            Greg Johnson-900798

            President Obama's stupidity is keeping the issue alive. He needs to apologize in public and he needs to state in that apology that is was his friend who was wrong and that he profiled the police officer.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#18 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:00 PM EDT
            carolg

            Gibbs is right. This is the kind of trash I expect from fox noise, not from professional networks.

            Get on with the news folks. Leave the racism chatter to Murdoch's bunch.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#19 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:02 PM EDT
            OK People

            I agree, but it's going to be difficult to do that now that the entire world realizes our President is a racist pig....

            • 3 votes
            #19.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:13 PM EDT
            vol fan in chatt, tn

            hate to break it to you, carolg, but this is on all of the networks. The "professional networks" have been doing the president's bidding (like the day long healthcare infomercial last month) since before the election, and the easy softball questions at every presser,... how this tripped him up, I do not know...wait, yes I do, if you think about it long enough, I think you'll get it too. [Jeremiah Wright: hint, hint]

            • 4 votes
            #19.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:51 PM EDT
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            ynotmike

            This man is over rated and probably prejudice himself, so please end this story as it has no real meat in it MSNBC. I went to my friends college graduation and the black man that was there professor so in so was talking about us whites and i got disquested and left as he wouldn't leave it alone and was the Most predjudice Black scholar I ever heard.

            Fayetteville state NC is a black college but whites get there education there to so shut the @!$%# up scholar. You should now better.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#20 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:04 PM EDT
            hww

            I don't think it is the media obsession at all. It is the fact that the leader we have cannot answer a question intelligently without a teleprompter and as usual spewed a bunch of crap without knowing all the facts. I can't wait until the next election.

            • 6 votes
            Reply#21 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:10 PM EDT
            stange007

            I wish all the black and white bickering back and forth would stop. No one is right, the Professor should have been a little more respectful and the officer a little thicker skin. It's really that simple. The whole thing reminds me of little children fighting. Leave the president out of it, he is a human and entitled to an opinion.

            Do you really HATE each other that much? If so WHY?

            Stop being a race be a HUMAN.

            • 5 votes
            Reply#22 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:16 PM EDT
            I am American

            Well said!!!!!!!

              #22.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:21 PM EDT
              Yours_Truly

              I completely CO-SIGN!! Couldnt have said it better myself =-)

                #22.2 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:26 PM EDT
                OK People

                I wish it really were that simple....

                  #22.3 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:16 PM EDT
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                  Caryl S. Foster

                  The truth is both parties acted "stupidly".

                  Professor Gates did so by going off on the officer while not recognizing that the officer was responding to an actual break-in that was being perceived as a burglary and the officer did so by arresting Professor Gates after it was established Professor Gates was indeed a homeowner "breaking into" his own house to enter it not to burglarize it.

                  Both parties failed to effectively communicate with each other, both acted "stupidly", and both should apologize to each other.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#23 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:16 PM EDT
                  Real Talk-1235804

                  I like how all the "police" and righteous folks are ignoring the original issue. I have read the report in detail and I do remember a little forgotten document called The Constitution of The United States which was written to prevent a "Police State" from developing in the first place. I know a lot of people remain "politicaly" correct in stating their disdain for President Obama but let's be clear. Unitl America is ready to come face to face and have a real discussion on the issue of race and it's sad legacy in this country then don't keep jumping on this lynch mob bandwagon about what the President said and ignore the real issue. Lets see how you would act if the Good Ole Cops ran up in your house and arrested you for raising your voice and saying hey wait a minute. racism is racism no matter what color or uniform you stick it in.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#24 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:22 PM EDT
                  George Spring, TX

                  Real Talk,

                  If you are looking for an administration looking to protect the Constitution, you elected the wrong guy. Obama is slowly implementing a Police State with every new program he puts in front of the American people.

                  The real issue to this issue is the president chose to support and defend a person of color (his words) before he even knew what the facts were. The fact is under the same circumstances Gates would have been charged the same if he were white, red or green. He (Gates) was the one that escalated the situation with the white police officer.

                  This whole back peddle today at the news briefing was Obama trying to say sorry without actually saying it

                  • 3 votes
                  #24.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:20 PM EDT
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                  Rixar13

                  It was the professors house, can we move on now?

                  He also says Obama has said most of what he's going to say on the matter.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#25 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:31 PM EDT
                  kifagi

                  I am a victim of racial profiling. Undercover cops have pulled me over several times since moving to South Florida in 1992. Profiling is the most humiliating thing that a person can go through. Therefore, I can understand the frustration of Dr. Gates, along with many others in the African-American throughout the country. White or white Hispanic white cops, male and female, profile most often blacks. Every time they pulled me over it is always the same things being said, you look like a person of interest we are looking for or your make and model car looks like a car we are looking for in a suspected burglary, etc.

                  Two of the most infamous and incapacitating forms of racism is racial profiling and Blame-it-on a black man syndrome. Racial profiling is widely used by police departments across the United States (Weitzer, R. & Tuch, S.A., 2002). Past presidents (Weitzer, R. & Tuch, S.A., 2002) have condemned racial profiling. Most people who view racial profiling as being acceptable or those who feel that blacks should not complain about it are not thinking critically about the affects and impacts this has on the African-American community, and ultimately the impact it has on society as a whole. It also shows a lack of compassion from non-black people in the community, which, historically, this has always been the case. Just like when white women become mentally ill and kill their children, etc. they blame it on black men (Sweeten case, 2009).

                  It sickens me to think that people think the police are justified for profiling blacks. The police are not gods, they are people who work for all citizens and should treat all people of color and non-color the same. There should be a law against racial profiling. I think President Obama should make a law prosecuting any government agency that has racial profiling.

                  Reference

                  Weitzer, R. & Tuch, S.A. (2002) Perceptions of Racial Profiling: Race, Class, and Personal Experience *, Vol. 40, No. 2, Pg. 435. George Washington University, HeinOnline

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#26 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:38 PM EDT
                  George Spring, TX

                  kifagi,

                  I have an honest question and I'm not baiting or anything else, please accept this with an open mind.

                  What exactly is Racial Profiling?

                  A robbery is reported. An eye witness says it was a young black guy in a white tee shirt and low hanging pants with his underware showing.

                  A patrol cop drives past a neighborhood park and sees three black youths in the park. One youth had a red tee shirt and shorts and the other two had a white tee shirt and low pants with his underware showing.

                  Is it Racial Profiling if the cop stops the two with white tee shirts knowing full well that one or both may be Innocent?

                  How is Racial Profiling even relevant in this case as the initial report was someone trying to break into a house?

                  • 3 votes
                  #26.1 - Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:32 PM EDT
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