Nancy Garrido’s lawyer: ‘She seems a little lost’

I can't believe they're trying to put a "human" twist and perspective on this woman, who's just as guilty as her husband. Shame on that defense attorney of hers, the crime she committed is evil and cannot be defended. How a woman can stand by and let another one of her kind get raped and impregnated multiple times, and still stand by that man's side is beyond me. I don't buy that she loved Jaycee or those kids or she would have tried to put a stop to her husband and get them out of there; she's just not the best judge of character considering she married a man that was behind bars for rape. In short, I don't believe her insanity defense and hope the jury can see right through it and convict her accordingly.

The defense attorneys are paid to try to spin this anyway possible.

The nature of the crimes are so despicable , that there will be no public sympathy for a pair of evil, calculating, conniving, whack jobs .

I have no doubt that Nancy Garrido did and does love Jaycee and the kids. That is how people are. Kids abused by their parents love their parents anyway. They also can hate them, feel angry, everything else, but people are not one-dimensional.

Similarly, parents who abuse kids love their kids too. They don't usually hate them. Parents who kill their kids are usually genuinely sad they did it.

And Jaycee doubtless has positive feelings toward the Garridos. He is the father of her kids. She isn't the first woman to have sex with her father-figure. Women tend to love the father of their children, it's just natural. She will also have anger and all the rest of it, but it isn't going to be what people tend to think.

That doesn't mean that the Garridos shouldn't stand trial and go to prison for the rest of their lives. That will be very hard on Jaycee and the kids, but it should happen. Just because people are not entirely awful doesn't mean they shouldn't pay for what they did.

Even Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin and Mao had people that loved them, that they loved. And they were arguably the worst people the world has ever seen with their mass slaughters.

One reason for trying to put the "human twist" is that a majority of people do not know how easily many mentally-ill people can "flip a script". But it is strange that people from the court system, many of whom come in regular contact, with the mentally-ill do not recognize this phenomena.

It's his job... I'm sure he doesn't like it any more than the rest of us. He took an oath and swore to do his job to the best of his ability. I don't think it's the lawyer we should be angry with here...

I agree with ATOwen. While he will be in the media spotlight, Maines was "assigned" to the case by the court. While our Constitution may be taking a beating, it does still guarantee competent defense. What I'm grateful for, at the moment, is that no one has volunteered to do this pro bono because of the high profile nature. Of course that might change - then you'd have a valid point.

And while it is his job to provide a good defense, it's possible the position he is in sickens him to death. And know this, if he fails to give her adequate defense, the case could be tossed (or more likely a mis-trial), and the defense attorney tossed in jail, himself.

And Maines is being honest I think. Nancy is a very screwed up lady. She loved Garrido, and probably always will.

Just because people do terrible things doesn't mean that they are not human. It is very rare to find a person who is so sociopathic that they truly have no human feelings.

Gangsters love and have families. So to pedophiles and rapists. It's kind of disgusting to think it, but they also feel the same things that everyone else does. It's just that they do things nobody else would do.

Just remember that if you ever happen to be falsely accused of a horrible crime, there will be someone out there willing to represent you and you will be glad of it.

That being said, I think these two are guilty and should be hung from the highest tree, side by side.

Just what is it you are trying to say here, raging bull? Were you being sarcastic? If you like that kind of woman. then it is too bad that you are not in jail because that is probably where you belong. I sure hope you were being sarcastic.

Come on, Stephanie!

Stephanie,

Are you serious? I mean, really?

It's called sarcasm, Steph.

Stephanie.....Get a grip.

Isn't one of Mansons' Girls getting out??? Somehow Tex and the boys managed to get married and have a family while serving their TateMurder sentence.

But, I digress!!!

People are human, even when they do bad things. We have a need to think of them as non-human, so distant from us that they couldn't feel anything we feel.

Reality is very different. This isn't a TV show. The lady is complicated and has human feelings. Doesn't mean she shouldn't go to prison for what she did.

If the . . . "lady is complicated and has human feelings". . . then lets start asking what the "lady" went through in her own childhood that got her involved with Philip. Other than that, the past is the past, the crime was horrible, and what could be rectified should be rectified.

Yeah, just looking at pictures of these folks tells you that something is a little twisted in their configuration!

Don't blame backwater towns for being mentally ill or deranged. Sick people come from all walks of life.

You are totally right Tor.

Nancy was a pawn of sorts. She probably thought of herself as working on her husband to make him better by loving him. That's a very normal thing for a woman to do or want. Nancy is way out there in terms of what she is willing to allow to happen around her, in her "family". But that is a matter of degree, not an absolute.

After all, how many women have bought a nice dress for a great price and cared nothing for the terrible suffering of the people literally enslaved to make it? How many women have not cared how their gangster husband made his money? There are parallels.

You're absolutely correct. I feel the same about my husband, but if I ever had an inkling that something like this involved him, it would take all of about 2 seconds for me to contact the police and then boot him to the curb.

If she had loved Jaycee she never would have allowed any of this to occur, including the kidnapping. She's an opportunist - she sees a possible way out of this hideous crime by pretending she not only loved Jaycee, but by acting as if she's uncertain what's going on. She knows exactly what's going on and that is that the gig is up.

Suck it up Garrido - you went along with it, now you pay for the crime too. I have absolutely no sympathy for either of the Garrido's. I hope they both burn in hell.

Her lawyer's setting her up for an insanity plea...how else can she be defended? Letting the info out of her meeting/marrying that freak in prison for being a rapist....bringing up "state of mind"..... he'll totally go for an insanity defense (I know, I watch Law & Order ! :) )

BUT....I wonder if Jaycee would defend her? As screwed up as that poor girl's got to be, she may say that Mrs. Garrido was good to her (ie: feeding her, perhaps not beating her, etc.).

Sadder still, there's probably so many more stories like Jaycee's out there. Don't hundreds of kids go missing every day in this country?

I agree Jo-Jo. Only a shell of a person would do these things.

Yes, hundreds of kids suffer worse. Most of those kids die I think.

17 years ago I called the cops because I saw two little boys in a store trying to catch my eye. They were clearly scared of the huge, fat man who had them by the hands. I will never forgive myself for not attacking the man, not being willing to go to prison to help them get away. The cops, when I called, refused to even send out a squad car. They flat refused. But hearing the Berkeley cops on the news say, "They looked at me with eyes that went through to your soul." has given me nightmares since. I saw those eyes and I didn't do enough.

A few years ago I met a woman who was living in her car. It was quite odd, because most homeless people don't have a "straight vibe" if you know what I mean. She just seemed like a housewife who had something terrible happen to her. She was attractive, had a degree in chiropractic. (I confirmed as much of her story as I could, and everything I checked was true.) She told me that after she came home and found her son being sodomized for a movie that she ended up having to run for her life. She thinks it stopped, and her son grew up, but without her. She claimed that after she reported it to the cops in LA that there was no report in the system after the cop took one. And she said that threats happened, and the last straw was when she realized that a private investigator who had happened to get in touch with her and working pro bono was actually setting her up. She was nearly killed, and given a message to disappear forever or die. She was not allowed to see her son. She fled and lived under an assumed name for 15 years as a schoolteacher in another state. She said she was coming out of hiding and had contacted her son, who had been only told his mother had run away and was crazy. Of course, one cannot be sure, perhaps she was. But it all held together and I probed hard for inconsistencies.

First off, I mean no offense to you by this comment or to make you feel worse. My bio father abused me the first 16 years of my life. Nobody helped me until after I ran away from home at 16. One of my mom's friends asked me when I was 14 I think, if my dad was doing stuff to me. I hated that evil demon so much but because of how demented I knew he was, all of his threats, and what I knew he would do if I told...the only way I could communicate was to look at the ground and try and hold back the tears. She looked at me for a second and that was that. She never asked me again and never told my mom her suspicions. There was another incident where I was asked and again exhibited the same behavior. People need to open their eyes and listen to their intuition to stop this chain of torment. Not every look means the kid is abused, maybe those boys just got in trouble for breaking something, so don't blame yourself, you don't know. You did more than most people would have though by calling the cops. A lot has changed since then. But adults do need to start standing up and speaking out when we feel something is wrong. How can we expect a child to speak up and stand up for themselves, when the normal adult can not. Children pick up on behaviors, they see and sense that other adults do nothing, so they feel they can do nothing. But also, God has his course of action and you have to trust in God. As I already posted elsewhere, I hate my past but had it been different, then I would not have my husband and two precious children, those chain of events led to other chain of events. AS FOR THIS HOMELESS WOMAN--She is probably overcome with guilt right now. I can not imagine this woman! I would do anything to protect my kids, I have such maternal instinct it's not funny. Those bastards would be dead withing 5 seconds of me seeing that. And if I died in the process, so what! It is our jobs as parents to protect our kids, who cares about death threats! I have no sympathy for her what-so-ever. What another sorry excuse for a human being. "Oh, let me save myself and leave my poor defenseless child to suffer horribly because I'm a self absorbed, dreadful excuse for a waste of life and space on this earth." She is a horrible story, though I am glad to hear her son is ok today, and I know I shouldn't judge people, but any decent parent would die for their children.

Unfortunately, the Constitution and our form of government guarantees everybody equal protection under the law. Fortunately, the law considers everybody innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. There are some countries that operate the other way.

"Even a %$#@^%$ werewolf is entitled to legal council."

- Oscar Acosta

You are absolutely right. That is our legal system and there has to be defense attorney's and prosecutors to make it work. We HAVE to provide her a defense attorney. I'm sure this guy wasn't lining up to defend this lunatic.

My offender had a court appointed lawyer. I found out after the trial from my DA that he had tried to get removed from the case because he didn't believe him. Before and during the trial, I had harsh feeling toward his lawyer, but he only asked me 3 stupid questions during cross examination...and I know for a fact that my bio father (offender) was the one that wanted those questions asked. Lawyers have to do stuff sometimes that they may feel is morally wrong, but it's their job. Some are good, and some are just scumbags. All we can do is pray for the most important things here: that they are never allowed out of jail, and that Jaycee and her girls find peace and comfort and heal.

I believe that Garrido probably heard from Satan, who likes to try to masquerade as God. God would not tell anyone to abduct a young girl and turn her into a sex slave. When people hear voices telling them to do evil, let us not blame God.

If garrido talked to God,then God knew about this!!!! therefore God is ultimately at fault for not stopping this!!! I suggest we bring God to trial and charge him with gross negligence and indifference to the crime! plus how do we know that God did not command garrido to do this!?

LOL! Well Jack, I just imagined myself saying this in front of my parents. No backside is too old for whipping.

Anyway that was blasphemy. And I believe you were just trying to ruffle some feathers.

Ummmmmmmm, NO!!

Of course my opinion is just that: my opinion.

you're crazier than they are for even asking the question. Scary!

Legally, probably. Morally, no way. His children should get the benefit of any money from his assets though.

i hope your kidding

Other two women? Didn't hear about that one.

I agree. Society will be better off, and she will be protected and secluded.

I'm sure if they can't use the insanity defense they will try to say she was abused and feared him so much that she did all of that. I don't care HOW afraid a man might make me, if he told me to snatch a little girl I'd let him kill me first. Remember the saying, "If you love someone set them free?", and here she just kept her locked up while her husband was in prison for MONTHS. Of course, she really truly COULD be legally insane but we'll see.

Larry - read a few posts back, unfortunately it is a necessary evil to have defense attorney's and prosecutors. That is the way our legal system works. They would be let go on technicalities if they were not provided proper presentation. Being a defense attorney means sometimes you defend guilty people and sometimes you defend innocent people. As blatantly guilty as they are and as much as I and probably the rest of the world would like to see them castrated, shot, etc., etc, under OUR legal system. They are unfortunately entitled to a day in court.

Can't disbar attorney from doing his job. Sorry, that's just the way this country's criminal justice system is set up to function!

Larry

What in the hell does Jena 6 have to do with this story? I guess then that the poor little inciteful fellow that got his tail whipped was just being a kid when he tied a black doll hanging from noose to a tree so it will offend the black students. I guess Jessie and Al should have ignored that inciteful behavior from this poor inocent (white) kid.

Larry,

It's good to know that if you're ever accused of any crime you would like to be given the harshest sentence possible without any trial. There are some countries like that in Africa and the Middle East -- you can go there, if you think that's such a great system. It's twisted people like you that are trying to turn the U.S. into a 3rd world country.

Didn't you ever take elementary-school level civics, that you are incapable of understanding what a horror that would be?

Nevermind, all it takes is to look at your comments to see the what kind of irrational, hateful freak you are.

If he doesn't try to mount some type of defense for his client it could cause a mistrial, their freedom and his disbarment.

The Judge that gave this macadamia nut custody should not be on the bench in any jurisdiction!!!!!!

While I think you are right, I suggest you go observe family court for a few days. It is quite enlightening.