Up to $3,800 fine for failure get health insurance

I think the whole healthcare reform crap is exactly that, CRAP. I do not understand why, if healthcare is a right, they are going to fine me if I fail to get insurance. I would much prefer them to fine everyone who fails to excercise their 2nd amendment rights, or fine THEMSELVES for VIOLATING ALL OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. This is just another scheme to steal money from those who work to support those who do not. Of course, they will never admit it, but it is a handy way to bribe the losers and Illegal aliens to vote for the partythat will give you everything that the working man earns, THE DEMOCRATS.

who do you think will collect the fines?

Neale Osborne. If illegal aliens weren't getting jobs here they wouldn't keep showing up. If American companies quit hiring them, they would stop showing up.

I'm not sure if the statistic still holds but not long ago, caucasians were the biggest users of welfare in this country. I'd like to see some of the latest statistics on that.

Baucus is the one who is trying to put through the Fine for those who do not have medical insurance, Not President O'Bama.

The GOP did too its in their proposals as well, and its been in HR3200 for months, quit buying into the hype. Just because you fell for the lies and choose to be mis informed due to hatred of Obama doesn't mean you have to stay that way.

You can still hate Obama, but at least get informed.

Do your remember when your parents met the door to door insurance salesman in your home? And they signed you and everyone up for only $4.00 per person, per month? And everyone grew up and went their own ways? I wonder who has collected those small premiums that your parents paid for years and years. I bet it was not your parents. Money just gone, even though they thought they were doing the right thing for their kids.

The insurers, the Blue Dogs, Baucus and GOP played Obama like ukulele. They got him to get rid of everything that would lower premiums while making having insurance mandatory. Now they are insured maximum profits from all of us.

Obama finally got his bi-partisanship. A plan that will screw us all.

No one said it is going to pass and that senator can put it where the sun does not shine.

Obama should become a man and say hay I was wrong this health care policy is bad for this country at this time. I hope everyone who voted for this guy is happy now, maybe I should just become poor and live off of the government. By the way will illegal be fine the $3,800 if they do not get coverage for their family.

Of course not, you know they have more rights than you do already (MAINLY TO YOUR PAYCHECK). The one way to cure the illegal immigration problem is simple: let them all come, with no check on them, just register at the border. The only thing is, ANYONE applying for public assistance must show 5 yrs of US tax returns before receiving even one dollar of welfare, SSI, Healthcare freebies, education, whatever the handout. I would bet that 95% will decide to stay home, and the other 5 % will be welcome as PRODUCTIVE citizens. Since this country was built by people who just packed up their things and came, (YES, even the "Native Americans" aren't the "Rightful owners of this country, they killed off their predecessors), there is no reason to prevent newcomers. Just prevent newcomers from immediately joining the welfare rolls. Let's face it, most of our hardest workers are newer immigrants (Koreans, Japanese, Indian, Middle Eastern), you know, all the ones who you b!tch about running convenience stores and gas stations. THEY aren't wasting their time worrying about who gets what, they just work hard and produce or sell products we all want and need. The current wave (Mexican and South American) are just the 21st century's Italians and Irish. In the late 1800s and early 1900s, they were considered the scum of the Earth. Now, they are the salt of the Earth, and a vital part of our society. If we just give them time, and don't turn them into welfare drones, these new immigrants will become the same, and even sooner if we just shut up and point them towards the jobs we all claim "Americans" do not want to do. They will step up and do these jobs, and well, paying taxes, educating their families, and improving society.

If I choose NOT to have health insurance, and I have a heart attack, does the guy next to me get a heart attack?

No, but when you go to the hospital during that heart attack and then go bankrupt because you can't afford your $100,000 bill, we (meaning society) have to pay for you through higher prices.

When you have only enough money to pay for your rent, power, water and phone bill, car insurance to get to work, put gas in the car and have a few bucks left over, you are NOT going to spend it getting health insurance.

HOW COME THEY DONT FIGHT SO HARD TO GIVE PEOPLE A DECENT WORKING WAGE. While companies that make fortunes only worry about giving investors a strong return on their money.

FINE people all you want - you will still get no money from those who cant afford it.

Tappy... who said I'm going to the hospital?

And if I did.... without insurance I'll be just like the millons of poor and illegals going now, right? We are already paying... like it or not.

Will, you just hit the nail on the head...

What do you think the cash for clunkers was for? yes the government.

Are you saying, it was the government that changed everyones television? And that people could buy a box that would delay their new TV purchase? Who's idea was it to change television? The government IS telling you what to do.

That statement does not define "Why". Can you explain?

There is a slight difference here. You can avoid car insurance by not owning a car. You can avoid homewoners insurance by not owning a home. Can you avoid medical insurance by not owning a body?

Government: "You are free to choose: pay us, be taxed, or get fined."

Talk to all the DEAD people who had health insurance that get procedures refused, because the insurance company denied the service. See how much they love their health insurance.

I've read they are still voting for Obama.

I'll have to assume you have much better contact with the dead, I haven't checked.

Sooooo, who paid for your and everyone elses unemployment? We pay for each other now, anyway, whether people know it or not. Just think about it.

I was rear ended by some young girl who wasnt paying attention. Im grateful to have had auto insurance to go to the hospital and then to my primary care physician who felt it was to costly to give a MRI to make sure my messed up back was okay. Now 4 years later still having issues.

All they care about is getting their big bucks, making lawyers lots of money. Bottom line is most of them dont give a dogs squat about people unless its someone they know. Your just $$$ to them.

My point about car insurance was that the REASON it is mandated is because there is a very real potential that you could hurt someone OTHER THAN YOURSELF. Insurance is supposed to pay for that accident.

With health, assuming no genetic problems, it's ME that I am hurting.

If I choose not to buy health insurance, but rather put the money in a bank. And if I have a heart attack, don't call for help. My family gets the money. The way I want it. After Uncle Sam takes his share, of course.

If someone found me and took me to the hospital, because I don't have insurance, I will not get the best care... not get the MRI or whatever. They'll try to get my assets, probably.

With health insurance, the doctors will perform every test to keep me alive and drain the system, for what... another year? Taking $100 a pill medication?

If this is a free country, I should be able to refuse health insurance. Put an ID braclet on me that says "do not revive", if you want. Let ME make the choice.

I agree, health care insurance is a good thing, but to Fine those who do not have health insurance?

In most states if you can show you have the ability to pay for the damage you might inflict you can avoid buying insurance. You can also choose not to drive just like you should be able to choose to not buy health insurance.

Its a bombshell and the Dems are meeting on Capital Hill right now to try to see how to stand behind the plan they were waiting for.

Show Stopper: MANDATED HEALTHCARE. FINES.

I think he has tossed a bomb in the reform ring to delay it further. No way will this get passed. The bill also stated cutting Medicare and Medicaid. He is just creating a new firestorm. Max Baucus, the best Senator Heath Insurance money can buy.

Sit back and watch the fireworks.

Sit back and watch the fireworks.

Indeed, but i would suggest we keep writing our congress people.

Its hilarious, this is not new, this has been in every proposal, even the GOP ones. Cost of caring for the uninsured adds on average 1100 dollar per covered person or aproximatly 8 percent (including employer contributions)

But because we spent last month debunking lies, all of a sudden this is some bombshell.

Does this not seem to align with communism ?

rtbird

If you don't pay your auto insurance, they impound your car. Maybe, if you don't pay your health insurance, they will impound your body?

Where I live they do not impound your car

They can for repeated violations.