Obama heckled by GOP during speech: 'You lie!'

South Carolina Republican

this alone should tell you all you need to know!

He was my HERO!

I WAS once a republican, too. But then I became a better person.

"dfizz : Sure Benny Boy! We don't allow men who act like women in the club."

Score another one for the Republicans... sexist much?

I know plenty of women who could probably out debate you with their intelligence AND physically kick your ass at the same time.

The republican party may as well resign itself to failure. There are a lot more women and minorities these days than there are angry, fatnecked, white guys. Maybe there is one person left in the party with a braincell, who might explain this to the good old boys club?

after the lie's obama and his admin. has told. i'm changing to republican. he is begining to make Bush look good. and thats bad !!!

bill-423568

You probably always was an republican and just couldn't think of any positive to say....

SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

Apart from the part that Obama was talking about his new plan, HR 3200 definitely prohibits payments to illegals. Any illegals that misrepresents and collects FEDERAL payments thus puts themselves in peril of felonious perjury and in danger of deportation. No matter if some could gain the system or not, Wilson lied and Obama is right. Language could not be clearer in stating illegals not covered.

HR3200 Sec 246 Go straight to Page 143.
http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

Ben-1268009

He was my HERO!
I WAS once a republican, too. But then I became a better person.

I was a Democrat, then a Republican, (we live and grow).

Then the fever broke and I got to feeling better, now I'm an Independent.

its slanderous and a lack of discipline.slander damages integrity .its not excusable .

max-785822,

Damages integrity??? What integrity, Obamas a liberal, he has no integrity.

If you read the article you'd see that he actually did try to apologize because he just realized he made a career-ender mistake. However, an apology isn't nearly enough to absolve him or the republican party of this. Unless the party leadership admonishes him for this, and calls for his resignation, and impeaches him if he doesn't voluntarily resign, they are just as guilty.

dfizz, put down your crackpipe. The republican party is little more than a joke now. More than half of their base has left the party since the election, not that many of those leaving the RNC are becomming democrats, most are going independant. But that doesn't matter because when the RNC can only pull less than 25% of the vote... democrats don't have to work very hard to win. Wait 'til 2010, you'll see. The RNC is finished as a major player in politics unless their whole leadership get's fired and replaced by more sensible people.

dfizz

you and the rest of the republican party must believe he is the Messiah because they are the only ones making that comment.

Just for verification there is only one Messiah and all will know when he has arrived and it is not President Obama, sorry to break the news to you and the rest of your party...

Ben-1268009,

You should really get out more, both Reps and Dems are dropping like flies, all going independent. Reps tired of not having any leadership and Dems tired of getting lied to by their Socialist Pres.

You called it. Been seeing it already, and you're right, what losers.

On the upshot, this made me decide to dig a little deeper into my pockets to donate to the DNC.

dfizz, not to sound trite, but I don't believe someone with such poor grammar skills could afford a house and car. Not to mention having such poor manners that you would think this kind of behavior from a congressman during a presidential address would ever be ok. It really does betray you as someone that's not making enough money to be able to buy a house, or car, even on credit. My guess is that you're either making minimum wage, less than minimum wage, or are unemployed.

I suggest that you learn some manners and grammar before you apply for your next job. No one is going to hire someone with such poor grammar and manners for a well paid position.

give it to wilson dfizz hes going to need it.to call the president a liar falsly in front of the world .isnt just going to go away with a apology .he didnt just cheat on his wife.slander is against the law.i doubt wilson will get to cast a vote on health care.one less republican vote.he must have thought he was at a town hall meeting shouting down some lady in a wheel chair.

but I guess some people are at the breaking point of the lies coming out of the President's mouth

Name one.

I'm tired of the lies coming out of every single Republican congressman's mouth every day...

Intending to doing something and actually calling a sitting President a liar not on the same plane. He was not even done with the sentence when he was heckled. What does it say when they won't even listen.

ShreeK -

okay, I'll give you three for the sake of argument (though it has nothing to do with the thread):

Pres. Obama said that bills would be online for 5 days for the taxpayers to see...oooppps - put on line at night and voted on the NEXT day. Link:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/14/flashback-obama-promises-to-allow-five-days-of-public-comment-before-signing-bills/

Same bill - Pres. Obama says he won't sign pork filled bills ...oooppps same bill had 8000 + earmarks and pork spending Link:

http://www.newsobserver.com/business/story/1357260.html

Pres. Obama said there would be no lobbyists in White House ...unless there is one (over 50 now I believe) Link:

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/01/22/no-lobbyist-in-the-obama-administration--except-when-there-is-one.html

And that was just the first month of his ADM.

Then this: Obama - no gov't funding of abortion in HR3200 ....not quite Link:

http://factcheck.org/2009/08/abortion-which-side-is-fabricating/

And this: Obama - you can keep your doctor and your insurance...maybe and maybe not Link:

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/keep-your-insurance-not-everyone/

Pres. Obama said that bills would be online for 5 days for the taxpayers to see...oooppps - put on line at night and voted on the NEXT day. Link:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/14/flashback-obama-promises-to-allow-five-days-of-public-comment-before-signing-bills/

According to your link, Obama put it online Friday afternoon, and signed it Tuesday. So let's see:

Friday - day 1

Saturday - day 2

Sunday - day 3

Monday - day 4

Tuesday - day 5

I believe the challenge given to you was to name a LIE that Obama has told, not to prove him to be a man of his word...

The Congress had to vote on it Friday - a mere 12 hours or less after it was put online - so did the people have 5 days to review and do anything about it? No - and BTW, 5 days would have been on Wed.

LIE that Obama has told, not to prove him to be a man of his word...

What the crap is the difference?? A lie is when you do something you said you didn't, or didn't do something you said you did. It is being dishonest and telling something that is not true, which he has done. This is but a few of many examples. But thanks for at least admitting he is NOT a man of his word...

You are getting your information from sites that support only your argument. Go to the Library of Congress and the US Census Bureau websites and READ. You can not keep counting on these sites, people, and personalities who only have their own interests in mind.

We were lied to for 8 years about a lot of things. Do not forget that. All of the statements Obama has made can be checked by your own research. Stop being so controlled by the lies of a group of people that HAVE health care.

mrsjones01

Please provide me some proof on what you believe the president has lied about, I believe it is time for everyone to stop making accusation and proved document proof on what they are declaring.....

1.) It has been shown through their own correspondence; the former administration ousted US attorneys who would not cooperate in pursuing charges (against Democrats) they asked them to. Rove, Miers and aides in particular, used this tactic. They whole lot lied about it during the 2-3 (?) year investigation.

2.) Perrino admited to lying about torture on behalf of the administration.

3.) Tom Ridge admits to being pushed to raise the security alert on the eve of President Bush's re-election, something he saw as politically motivated and worth resigning over.

Three quick ones out of their own mouths. I would like to say, I don't for one minute believe President Bush himself knew about most of it. But, these things did happen.

vol fan, you're a little off-base or hyper-critical with most of the cases you cited, although I do partly agree with you on the lobbyist issue where he didn't 100% abide by his campaign pledge. However, even in the case of Bill Lynn he's being held to special ethics requirements so that any potential conflict of interest is avoided. Lynn was appointed at Gate's request, not Obama's. Note that Obama's lobbyist ban is completely different from Bush's complete acceptance of them, so to be critical of one case - or a handful of cases - misses the point entirely. Is it a lie? That's in the view of the beholder. The simple fact is that he's kept that campaign promise 99.9% of the time, and in the one case where he made an exception he took extra steps to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest. Not good enough for you? I'd suggest you're being a purity troll.

On the abortion issue, you're simply wrong. The Hyde amendment prohibits federal funding of abortion except for rape, incest, and to preserve the life of the mother. The plans in Congress will have a work-around, so that federally subsidized plans do not use federal money to fund other abortions - they will use a sequestered portion of the private premium. You might not like that, but tough luck - such plans will have to have equivalent benefits to other plans. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one.

wrice, one clear lie Bush made was "America doesn't torture", which was especially ludicrous since the DoJ had recently successfully defended the conviction of a Texas sheriff for the same crime Bush had been committing (torture through waterboarding).

Another obvious lie is this:

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/bush-caught-on-tape/

Now, by the way, anytime you hear the United States government talking about wire tap, it requires—a wire tap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we’re talking about chasing down terrorists, we’re talking about getting a court order before we do so.

A few other lies related to Bush's illegal violation of FISA are here:

http://mediamatters.org/research/200512240002

shrekk, if I can't use "right sites" you can't yse left sites such as in post 6.12 according to msjones1 in post 6.8. BTW, msjones1, us news and fact check are not right wing organization.

Okay, well here's a few questions I have from last night then.

Q. Well, how is it that Obama, who just last week referred to the 47 million Americans who are uninsured, suddenly last night said there were 30 million uninsured? Where did the other 17 million people go? And Why did he say the illegals won't be required to be covered in HR 3200?

A. Because these two are linked together - the 17 million that was suddenly dropped as being uninsured , IS probably the illegals who will end up being granted amnesty - that is the next step down his road.

Q. Obama kept talking about "my plan"? What is his plan? Has he shown us his plan outside of about 5 things in HR 3200?

A. No, he just went to Congress to try and debunk "myths". We still don't know what his plan is, outside of 4 or 5 things he outlined that may or may not be true.

Q. If he could save 500 billion in medicare by cutting waste and fraud after this bill is supposedly initiated, then why are we not DOING IT NOW?

A. I have no idea why he isn't.

Q. Why did he say this: "If you lose your job or change your job, you will be able to get coverage. If you strike out on your own and start a small business, you will be able to get coverage."

A. Because under the plan, not only will you be able to get coverage, you will be fined a large amount of money if you don't.

Q. Why did he say preventative care "makes sense, it saves money, and it saves lives."?

The Congressional Budget Office wrote in August: "The evidence suggests that for most preventive services, expanded utilization leads to higher, not lower, medical spending overall." It might save lives but it doesn't save money.

Q. Remember when Obama said, "if you like your doctor and your plan, you can keep it...PERIOD?" Suddenly last night it changes to this, "Nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have." What happened to the "PERIOD"?

A. Because you may/will have to change your plan and your coverage. Why else would he have removed the guarantee?

A couple of other questions:

He said the public option would not eliminate private insurance and yet, here he is explaining how it may have to be done incrementally. Link: http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/

He says we are turning the corner on the economy last night, and yet the unemployment rate keeps rising - 9.7% this month. And he guaranteed us, with the stimulus, unemplyment wouldn't rise above 8.5%...

There's just too many lies, half truths, and unanswered questions...

vol fan, I see that your tactic is to attack the messenger when you don't like the message. Are you saying that the lies I cited by Bush are not accurate? If you think that, you're delusional - google the Bush quotes I cited.

vol fan, regarding Obama's proposal, the President does not write legislation. That's not his job or in his authority. He can tell Congress what he wants to see in a bill, and in this case he's given them a mandate without many specifics. You're criticizing the wrong branch of government.

if you don't think for ONE minute, he has a hand in this you are delusional.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/06/03/obama-gives-congress-some-health-care-marching-orders/

Apologize? He's now the front runner for 2012.

If he doesn't apologize and soon, it'll be a major black eye for the entire GOP. You can bet that no one is more angry at him then the GOP leadership in Congress and are expressing that anger at him right now.

Wilson has already apologized (but not for being an idiot, and not for being wrong on the illegal immigrant issue):

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/09/wilson-apologizes-i-let-my-emotions-get-the-best-of-me/

"This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility."

The really amusing part of this is that his son, Alan, announced his candidacy for SC Attorney General yesterday. Helluva campaign endorsement!

http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2009/09/09/wilson-launches-atty-gen-campaign/

I'm surprised the apology came so early. However, in the hours or weeks ahead he may be forced to apologize to his home state, those in attendance, those at home, and the First Lady. And I guess his son, Alan, may have his own list.

The really amusing part of this is that his son, Alan, announced his candidacy for SC Attorney General yesterday. Helluva campaign endorsement!

well, he can kiss that goodbye. No excuse for what he did, none!

Personally, I don't think any apology is good enough. Resignation or impeachment is the only way the GOP can keep this from being their biggest black-eye in the past few decades. Even if they do oust him, it still won't be good for them, but at least it won't be such a bad black eye.

Will he have to apologize to Rush for apologizing to OUR President?

Making more sense than you, dfizz. You're just flat.

Just another dumb cracker.

wait, is't that racist or something?

ignore dfizz - he's a troll!

Joe's childish diatribe should be an affront to every decent American. But I guess the exception would be the equally childish boors, like yourself.

There is really nothing left to say to a person who applauds bad manners.

dfizz, you said you sent your pal money yesterday. Are you doing this daily???

That's because the mainstream left shuns the extreme left. I think the mainstream right has pretty well left the republican party though, so all they have left are the extremists.

You are the perfect clown to lead it, fizzle!

again ignore dfizz - trolling.

All you have to do is check out comments to realize he's new and apparantly just wants to troll. Time to ignore.

why?

If this is the standing of the majority of Americans how then did this Socialist make it to office?

Why, simple! Americans are standing up to Government take over as this Administration spouts out words such a right wing nuts, mobsters, and liars. GOP is sick of listening to the name calling and lies and stood up in their own way for the majority of Americans.

Poppycock. You forget that the guy "standing up to Government" is part of that government. He was unable to control himself, out of line, boorish and an embarrassment to the Republican party.

And you compliment someone for standing up to name-calling by calling someone a liar? Nice going. lol

They gave their opinions at the appropriate time.

They certainly didn't shout out during a join session of congress while Bush was speaking, if they had we'd still be hearing about how unpatriotic and unameican they were.

Nor is it a Mike Vick fight night extravaganza.

melb : For over 300 hundred years there has been a double standard in this country with how the majority race is treated versus the treatment afforded the minority race(s). And I am here to tell you that not even Obama who is considered a minority, though wearing the trappings of POTUS is immune to that double standard.

It's not just skin color, it's religion as well and a few other things too. Heck, once upon a time the Irish and Italians were discriminated against because they were Catholic or because they were lazy and stupid, or they were all mafia or... it goes on and on. It's xenophobia.

your an idiot to even bring racism into this. A liar is a liar no matter their darn color. You must be a complete fool to concern yourself with the skin color of a man and must be the racist yourself to even go there when he was simply called a liar which is what he is. SO shut up if you are not in touch with the subject being discussed. Go find a place to picket or complain about racism somewhere else and help tear down our country. You didn’t hear everyone say it was racism when they attacked Bush but now they disagree with this guy who happens to be black and suddenly it is only because of racism. People like you are the reason our country is on the brink of collapse because you are so full of crap you want to cause decent in our land instead of uniting everyone. We can all disagree and have for over 200 years but now it always has to have a bunch of idiots like you stirring the pot until soon you will see our country collapse and then you won't say it was the white people or the black you will simply learn to speak a new language that is our new home tongues being spoke on our land because of fools just like you. I am black more black than the president and I say he is a liar as well doe that mean I am saying it because I am a racist? No simply because he is a LIAR! SO shut up with this garbage already.

Concerned... We are fooling ourselves if we think this has nothing to do with race. No one ever asked Bush if his race would be a factor in his governing. They did Obama! Why? Because they are as ignorant as you.

I am an American first and a white woman second. Why could Obama not speak to our lilly white children down in Texas (I'm ashamed to be here right now) about staying in school?

You should know that the very same week President Bush is speaking at the new Cowboy Stadium and many schools are taking field trips to hear him.

Race is indeed an issue in this country. If we continue to pretend it's not we will never move past it. No other President has been so disrespected on so many levels. Ever.

Interesting - I can't send an email to the guy. My system keeps adding (automatically) @aol.com to www.joewilson.house.gov. Very weird

Be sure and do that sweetie. I am sure it will be a great comfort for him to know that he is not the only rude and ridiculous person in America.

Keep trying! Tell him it was nice to see an American stand up and have some balls for once!

What a juvenile mindset one must have to believe that making an ass out of oneself and one's party and being an uncivil boor is something to be applauded.

What I told Wilson was this -

In a time when MY Republican party is looking like a bunch of crazy conspiracy nuts, unwilling to do anything to help Americans less fortunate than we are, I was at least never humiliated by the way a member of my party acted at a Presidential speech before Congress. Well, until now.

Your boorish behavior is unforgiveable and does nothing to try to help the harm that has been done to our party by outlandish accusations, fear-mongering and divisiveness. When did we become the party that revels in hate and incivility?

I'm finding fewer and fewer reasons to remain in the political party I've been in all my life.

Thanks - I'm sending him a big thank you!

dfizz are you that arrogant that you feel you can speak for the Republican party? VerbalBarb wrote a well-thought out letter to a member of Congress and all you can do is insult with your one-liners. If you expect people to take your views seriously, you'll have to change your tune.

Okay, so I just tried the link to joewilson.house.gov.

I couldn't get in. Too much traffic.

I just hope he's getting more flak than praise. I'm not holding my breath, though.

Well said... even from a liberal standpoint. LOL : )

So, it is your contention that illegal immigrants will receive taxpayer money to pay their medical bills.

I'd ask you for a link but you would just direct me to FOX, Rush, or some other group that tells lies.

I'd ask you to do an independent search for truth, but I doubt that's going to happen.

Here you go, Eileen. I did your homework for you.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/

"the bill does explicitly say that illegal immigrants can’t get any government money to pay for health care. Page 143 states: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." And as we’ve said before, current law prohibits illegal immigrants from participating in government health care programs."

They already get free taxpayer paid health care at the local ER, why would this ever change? So I say Susan-649485 get a second job to pay more taxes to pay for health care for illegal immigrants! I'm tired of paying my hard earned money in taxes that support health care "free" for illegal immigrants, when there are senior citizens and children of our own country suffering for lack of quality health care. Obama wants to redistribute the wealthy to the poor, guess who falls in this category, 20 million plus illegal immigrants!

Blythe, you must be one of the few conservatives who favors a national identity card, or perhaps a serial number tattooed on each of our foreheads. I'm not sure how the language of HR3200 could be any more clear:

SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.

Either you willfully are choosing to disregard the plain-language of that section of the bill, or perhaps English isn't your native language. How much more clear could it be?

Since you're "tired" of having a negligible portion of your tax money used for services to undocumented aliens, what's your solution? How do you propose preventing undocumented aliens from driving on federally subsidized roads, or using our federally subsidized postal system or national parks?

Shekk

Its just amazing how now Obama and the Democrats are pursuing proper legal terms in their health care legislation so that there is no loop holes that allow illegal immigrants to acquire free health care. So I guess Joe's statement "you lie " must have had relevance just poor taste in yelling it out in the Congress setting. So obviously I do understand English, as you so pointed out that I may lack those skills as my native language. I suggest you should get better informed before you attack the credability of a viner.

Names we called Bush? Hmmm, let me think...."war criminal", "torture conspirator", and "FISA violator" come to mind.

I think the man is a Hero to finally stand up and say what all of the world is now seeing as true

This is your idea of a hero?

How sad.

Glamma,

Where do you see in Joe's simple statement " you lie " He showed his true colors, a racist pig who thinks a black man in the whitehouse is an abomination?

You must know Joe personally to know his personal views. I wonder who really is the racist here, surely not Joe,