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Obama expects passage of 'good health care bill'

Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:53 AM EDT
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Steven R. Hurst, Associated Press
Republican Congressman Joe Wilson of South Carolina says he has already apologized to President Barack Obama for calling him a liar on the House floor, and that's the only apology he intends to make. COURTESY: "Fox News Sunday"
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<p>Demonstrators are shown during a rally at Freedom Plaza in Washington on Saturday, Sept. 12, 2009. Thousands of protesters have packed streets in the nation's capital to protest what they consider the federal government's out-of-control spending. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)</p>

Demonstrators are shown during a rally at Freedom Plaza in Washington on Saturday, Sept. 12, 2009. Thousands of protesters have packed streets in the nation's capital to protest what they consider the federal government's out-of-control spending. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama began a week that will dwell heavily on overhauling the health care system, declaring himself confident Congress will pass "a good health care bill" even though some Republican opponents were trying to kill the measure for political gain.

At the same time, the president and some members of both parties were shifting from hard positions about a government insurance option toward some agreement on reducing medical care costs and restricting insurance company practices.

Consensus appeared to be growing on the need to prevent the insurance industry from denying coverage to those with existing medical conditions or canceling policies when a person becomes seriously ill.

"I believe that we will have enough votes to pass not just any health care bill, but a good health care bill that helps the American people, reduces costs, actually over the long-term controls our deficit. I'm confident that we've got that," Obama said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CBS' "60 Minutes."

Still, he said: "There are those in the Republican party who think the best thing to do is just to kill reform. That that will be good politics."

A Washington Post-ABC News poll published Monday found the public in a virtual deadlock on the Democrats' health plan, with 46 percent favoring the proposed changes and 48 percent against them. Americans are also closed divided on whether they should be required to have health coverage, with 51 percent in favor and 47 percent opposed.

The survey was conducted Thursday through Saturday, after the president's address to Congress, and had a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Obama has retaken the offensive on his key domestic policy issue, most notably with his speech last Wednesday night to both houses of Congress. And he sought to turn down the heat over a government-run health insurance plan.

Obama's spokesman, Robert Gibbs, drove home that point again Sunday.

The president "prefers the public option," Gibbs said. "However, he said what's most important is choice and competition."

Sen. Olympia Snowe, the Maine Republican who could be the party's only senator who votes with Democrats, believes choice and competition can be ensured without the public option.

"It's not on the table. And it won't be," she said Sunday. "We'll be using the co-op as an option at this point, as the means for injecting competition in the process."

Snowe sits on a six-member panel — three from each party — of the Senate Finance Committee that is writing a version of the health care overhaul bill.

Instead of the government running a program that provides low-cost health insurance, Snowe and fellow negotiators are considering a not-for-profit cooperative system. Those backing the measure contend it would substantially lower health insurance premiums by cutting out private-industry profits and guarantee coverage to all who want it.

Such systems exist in some areas of the country but their success has been spotty.

Obama will have to be convinced that such a plan can succeed.

"I have no interest in having a bill get passed that fails. That doesn't work," Obama told CBS. "You know, I intend to be president for a while and once this bill passes, I own it."

Obama wants to make sure that any overhaul imposes strict measures to ban companies from refusing insurance to people with existing medical conditions, dropping coverage when policyholders become ill and imposing caps on what a person can claim for one illness or in his lifetime.

Obama is trying to sweeten the deal for Republicans by indicating he is open to their ideas.

In his Wednesday speech and again in the CBS interview, the president signaled he was open to so-called tort reform. Under current practice, doctors and hospitals must pay huge amounts to insure themselves against malpractice lawsuits by patients seeking large court-ordered settlements for poor treatment.

Democrats, thanks to heavy backing from lawyers, have not supported Republican efforts to limit such payments. Doctors — and Republican politicians — say the current system drives up costs through unneeded medical procedures ordered by physicians who fear being sued.

"I would be willing to ... consider any ideas out there that would actually work in terms of reducing costs, improving the quality of patient care," Obama said in the Sunday interview, which was taped Friday.

While he said he did not back limits on court-ordered rewards for malpractice, he said "there are a range of ideas that are out there, offered by doctors' organizations like the AMA (American Medical Association), that I think we can explore."

Gibbs spoke on CNN's "State of the Union." Snowe appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation."

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SUNNY SIDE

It's NPR history on tactics used to defeat healthcare reform , http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112315433&ps=rs

Don't let insurance companies and paranoid citizens stop America from moving forward on this issue. Fear isn't a good enough reason to let our fellow Americans down.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:28 AM EDT
DonkeyRidder

Don't let some infatuated adorers of Obama turn America into a Marxist state, ruin healthcare, redistribute wealth from the workers to the irresponsible, and bankrupt the country with flagrantly irresponsible spending so the government can seize all means of production, seize all wealth, in another phoney crisis management scheme. Our crisis were caused by the government, the Democrat party government. They must be stopped.

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:40 AM EDT
SUNNY SIDE

America lags 38th in the world for life expectancy after 37th Cuba. These idiot protesters cheer to throngs of idiot republicans that did nothing to improve upon that in their entire 8 yrs in office leading the country.

If you think America should be proud of bankrupting fellow Americans due to rising healthcare costs and booting people off insurance rolls, then keep on with calling Barack a Marxist, Nazi, Communist, Socialist, Muslim, Alien but don't fault people for calling you a Republican crazy head.

It goes without saying that Obama can't be all of those things simultaeneously. These shizophrenic protesters are being duped by insurance companies that don't even care about them or our country.

GWB and the GOP nearly ruined America with their stupid trickle down policies that failed, their deregulation of EVERYTHING, and their idiotic IRAQ war. We are back from the brink of Depression. It's too bad SOME people can't tell what direction America is going in. Learn about economic indicators at least: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125261100485400509.html . Indies like me are tired of people that just talk the party line and don't do a thing to try and find out what is really happening to our country. No, the Dems aren't going to be perfect in their endeavor, but at least they've cared more about Americans who need our help in the months they've been back than the GOP cared in ALL of the last 8 years in office!!

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:27 PM EDT
DonkeyRidder

America lags 38th in the world for life expectancy after 37th Cuba. These idiot protesters cheer to throngs of idiot republicans that did nothing to improve upon that in their entire 8 yrs in office leading the country.

Only an idiot wouldn't see that it is due to irresponsible people killing themselves in cars and killing their fellow leftists with guns, and killing themselves with the benefits of choice prosperity provides. That statistic means nothing. The data coming out of third world countries isn't reliable. I doubt Castro put forth his political murders in his health statistics.

Obama is a Marxist. We don't know if he will employ any Nazi techniques for controlling the population but he has threatened to do so with his well funded civilian army on par with our military. Marxist covers the commmunist/socialist dimensions satisfactorily.

And there will be death panels.

And Obama appointees will be between you and your doctor.

And seniors will be given the pain pills and put in hospice.

And there will be a total phase out of private insurance.

And Obama TyrannyCare will bankrupt us.

And Obama will extend coverage to illegal aliens -- those here now and those to come.

We are still in economic, moral, and morale decline. Only an idiot would think we are recovering. We have massive tax increases in line for next year, with the expected job losses and recession, with an even further decline in tax revenue. Inflation is starting now.

Obama is still doling out retribution to America and we ain't seen nothing yet.

    #1.3 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:45 PM EDT
    SUNNY SIDE

    #1.3 I can see why people are so frustrated in their altered reality, propaganda statements like all of those stated in #1.3 usually work off fear and aren't substantiated by any credible sources. #1.3 fits that bill to a tee. Those Americans aren't satisfied that we have our hands full with terrorists, they have to heap on Marxists, Nazis, Socialists, Aliens, hell I'm sure they'll be seeing UFOs coming out of the sky pretty soon, too. Their turning their message into "THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH!". They might as well join the circus.

      #1.4 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:42 PM EDT
      lilian101

      When President Obama proudly announces that illegal aliens will not have health care in the United States, and fails to describe how he intends to reverse the right of every illegal alien to absolute health care coverage in the United States, it tends to make his statements less than credible and cause for concern.

        #1.5 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:08 PM EDT
        SUNNY SIDE

        If illegals are your first and biggest priority, you have bigger problems understanding everything this country has been going through. Both Dems and the GOP caused the depression we just avoided. Obama doesn't have to guarantee anything about illegals anymore than any other president in American history, not Reagan, Bush Sr., GWB, even all they way back to George Washington. You're argument is illogical and doesn't fix any major problems. I'm sure your ears are firmly plugged with teabags by now. Oh well.

          #1.6 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:16 PM EDT
          hvymtl83

          DonkeyRidder is either a Repub shill or one of the most propagandized people I have ever seen. His arguments, all of which are Repub and insurance industry talking points, boil down to: "Over twenty industrialized nations along with several "poorer" nations have successfully implemented nat healthcare and all have significantly higher rankings and much lower costs than the US, but we are too stoopid to do it."

          I am baffled by this thinking, but no one ever accused the wingnut ideologues of cogent thought.

          • 1 vote
          #1.7 - Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:11 AM EDT
          jdl-28

          No government health care program, no reason we can not pay for our own medical, let stop buying so many toy's.

          • 1 vote
          #1.8 - Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:39 AM EDT
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          Dave Jordan

          This isn't about health care, it's about taking more power for the government. An egomaniac like Obama will not give up on his goals. How many communists/socialists/radicals do we have to see this man support and believe in before we realize that that is exactly where he's coming from. His mother and grandparents were communists, the man he calls his mentor in Hawaii was a communist, after listening to Wright for 20 years he didn't know where he was coming from (BS), he knew what Ayers is about, he made an illegal deal with Rezka, he appointed Jones (and how many more like him?), he shows respect for the world's dictators, and is upset with Hondorous because they dared to follow their constitution . . . What a BOZO!!!!!!

          • 5 votes
          Reply#2 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:38 AM EDT
          rewetzel

          Yesterday I went to the local private hospital here in Japan.

          I got a full physical examination, 3 xrays, and a full blood test. For this I paid around 67 USD. I will then return in a week to get a neck MRI that will cost me about 170 USD.

          I'm on the apparently "evil" single payer public option "kokumin kenko hoken" national option so maligned by the Americans. I don't feel that the government is trying to take away any freedoms. Private insurance exists in Japan and, in fact, many more people have that instead of the national option. I can't understand what Americans are so frightened of.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#3 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
          DonkeyRidder

          I can't understand what Americans are so frightened of.

          We are not Japan. What is the tax rate in Japan? Someone paid down the cost of your services. How much do they spend for national defense? How many drug abusers and HIV patients do they care for? How's their trauma rate?

          The Japanese have a regimented society and the kids are indoctrinated by the government from day 1. We don't want that here.

          If there is fear, it is fear of the government. We have idiot Marxists in charge. That is not America's history and it will not be our future.

          • 3 votes
          #3.1 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:45 AM EDT
          Wildcard-781265

          Yes we do, and I agree, this is not Japan.

          The government should fear the people, not the people fear the government.

          This country was founded and based on The People, not the government, the government was set up AFTER the nation was formed, not the other way around, and it was the people from every walk of life who went out to fight the British, not the government. Give America back to the people, and let them have a greater say in how the government is ran, get rid of the Socialist, Marxist and do nothings in Washington.

          • 4 votes
          #3.2 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:12 AM EDT
          lilian101

          Japan has not had a national defense budget of any moment since the end of WW2. Nor does Japan have an illegal alien problem, but they so have trade benefits with the US

          • 1 vote
          #3.3 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:09 PM EDT
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          George-369262

          Americans are frightened of a government run health care system which will be like the DMV. Plus be extremely expensive. Assuming it works like other social programs, @ 75% of funds allotted will be absorbed by administrative costs. The remaining 25%, used to attempt to satisfy the unlimited demand which comes from something "free", will lead to rationing.

          Medicare reimburses health care providers at @ 60% of market rate. Private insurance makes up the balance, via inflated charges to cover the shortage. However, these private insurers are slated to be squeezed out of the market, regardless of what the current Administration says. Result: further rationing.

          The bottom line is that a large chunk of America simply doesn't trust our government.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#4 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:00 AM EDT
          lilian101

          But we believe President Obama when he says that illegal aliens will not have health care in the United States and says it with a straight face.

            #4.1 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:11 PM EDT
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            powg

            Yesterday I went to the local private hospital here in Japan.

            Are you serious? You gave up your God given rights for cheap health care!! I'm gonna go shoot some guns now. And your not! LOL,LOL,LOL

            • 2 votes
            Reply#5 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:49 AM EDT
            Ask the Rascal

            Health Care is a Right not a Benefit : Coverage for All

            The Republicans have the Democrats on their heels about health care but the real losers are the American people. We stand to lose something that should be ours as a birthright not a negotiated benefit . Access to affordable health insurance needs to be as basic a freedom as eliminatinating bodily fluids, no one should be able to tell another person where, when , or how to do it. The Democrats need to stand up for once in the last 40 years and make that point to the American people. The cost of providing health insurance to every man, woman, and child is as irrelevant as the price of food. Congress needs to pass a bill that would provide access to health insurance to all Americans, plain and simple. Controlling the cost is something that should be dealt with on an ongoing bases through regulations like every other form of insurance.
            It is time for the American people to understand that we are the life's blood of the world's economy and act accordingly. Working people , union and non union have been giving up concessions in their health benefits for decades. It has to stop. We are being conditioned to believe that health care is a benefit instead of demanding that it be treated as a right . Surely if medical cost were what the our now at the time of the revolution , is it not reasonable to assume that they would have guareenteed health care for everyone ? Of course they would have. WE ALL KNOW THAT. We need to put politics aside . Put idology aside. Put economics aside and do what our hearts tell us is right. It is a human rights issue and we must do the humane thing. Do the right thing. It is an issue that's time has come. Just like the civil rights movement of the 50's , the voting rights issue of the 60's, the peace movement of the 70's, the individual rights movement of the 80's, the corporation's rights movement of the 90's, and the extremists rights movement of the 00's , Health Care Rights is here now and as citizens we must stand up now and demand our rights be respected. Just like the Blacks, Women, Hispanics, Peace Niks , Hippies , Yippies, Corporations, Muslims, ect. , ect. -we must demand our birth rights. Health Care Now.
            The debate about the cost is just that , a debate about the cost. It is like talking about the rising cost of food or gas but the debate does not stop us from eating or driving. When neccessities go up , we change our habits. Economize. That is what we need to do about Health Insurance . Make changes in our habits that will help control the cost is the future , but first we need to get everybody covered. Some form of coverage that provides adequate medical treatment for all citizens. Health care should be as basic a right as voting, even more so.A person can live a good life without voting but without Health Insurance-hmm I am not sure any us want to roll the dice. It is wrong for our Senators and Congressman to use the current debate to push their own agenda.Right now millions of American are hurting not only financially but physically. Many more of them are dying than those that died 8 years ago in the World Trade Center. All of us had no problem backing President Bush when he so boldly stated "either you are with us or you are against us". We didn't ask whether the freedoms we asked our troops to provide to the citizens of Iraq would some day allow a teenage girl a to terminate a pregnancy or if some one who crossed the border from Syria would be enjoying the "good life" in Iraq. Why not ? Because it had nothing to do with the issue at hand. It didn't have any reason to be put of the debate then and it doesn't now.
            Now is the time for Congress to focus on one thing and one thing only. Getting everyone one of us Health Insurance. There will be plenty of time to "fix" it later. As is our Constitution , all our laws and regulations are fluid in this country. Subject to be changed by future generations to fit their needs at the time. That is what make this the greatest country there ever was, the understanding that no rule is so absolute that it can not be changed when it no longer applies. It is time for every one of us to go to the phones, the internet ,the fax machine, the pen and paper, or just yell out the window and tell our Congressmen and Senators "that We are Mad As Hell" and we want our Health Care Rights Now. If we don't get them we will use another of our most sacred rights , the right to vote , and I got a feeling that many of those that continue to use this debate as a device to divide and conquer the American people's right to adequate health insurance are not going to be happy with the final tally.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#6 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:29 AM EDT
            DonkeyRidder

            You have no right to services provided by another, ever. That would mean the provider of those services is a slave to the greedy needy. That won't fly for long.

            • 4 votes
            #6.1 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:35 AM EDT
            AmAfrican

            If you are looking for a good book to read, get the book by Tim Wise: Between Barack and a hard place- Racism and White Denial in a age of Obama 13.95 paperback
            This book is well written and articulates what we all know is really going on.

            • 1 vote
            #6.2 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:28 AM EDT
            DonkeyRidder

            Try Mark Levin's book "Liberty and Tyranny" if you want to know what is going on.

              #6.3 - Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:24 AM EDT
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              Mary-268849

              Everyone is for Healthcare Reform....just not the bill that is in place now. It's ridiculous. And the Democrats have tried to rush and ram this thing down everyone's throat. Just like the ridiculous stimulus bill. It ain't happening again!!!The Gov. has no business running Healthcare. Hell, they couldn't run a lemonaid stand on my street corner. They can't even run their own CONgress. What I can't figure, and haven't heard too many mention...the Dems have the votes...could have passed this fiasco two months ago. Why didn't they? I'll tell why...it's because there are a few Dems in there with a smiggin of intelligence, that knows this 1,000 page bunch of horse sh** SUCKS!!! And worst of all it's a scam...a LIE. Maybe if the rest of you bothered to research this crap, you would understand.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#7 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:06 AM EDT
              AmAfrican

              If you are looking for a good book to read, get the book by Tim Wise: Between Barack and a hard place- Racism and White Denial in a age of Obama 13.95 paperback
              This book is well written and articulates what we all know is really going on.

                Reply#8 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:26 AM EDT
                PCMan-615609

                ........and what exactly is it we all know is going on.....??? Please elaborate.............!!!

                • 3 votes
                #8.1 - Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:55 AM EDT
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                Shawn-552481

                I keep hearing the reason this is not passed yet is because of the republicans. The democrats can pass this tomorrow. They have majority/filibuster-proof in congress and a president that will sign it. What else do they need? Goodwill? Why does Obama say, "...even though some Republican opponents were trying to kill the measure for political gain."?

                  Reply#11 - Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:32 PM EDT
                  Ask the Rascal

                  brascal53 wrote:
                  All this debate about Health Care is dishearting. There should be no debate at all. Health Care is a right not a benefit and Health insurance coverage should be extended to every American citizen without any strings attached. When are people going to stand up and be counted on this issue. It is not a liberal or conserative issue. It is not a economic issue and it shouldn't be a political issue. It is a Human Rights issue. If the framers of the constitution, that the "political conseratives" like to fall back on every time they can, had any idea that medical care would become as expensive as it has -a reasonable person would have to assume that they would have addressed it in the Bill of Rights. Plain and Simple. It is time for the Democrats to "take the kid gloves off" and come out swinging. There is no reason to debate the issue at all. A perfect law is not necessary. We have a constitution the was so well thought out that it "allows" our law makers to change our laws any time change is warranted. The only issue is getting a bill the extends health care coverage to all Americans now. If it has flaws it can always be tweaked, overhauled, or scrapped in the future. Congressmen and Senators who feel the need to derail or delay this proposed legislation are the enemy not President Obama and if you are a real American you know that without be told.
                  Health coverage is not something that should be available to people because of the job they do, or because of the organization or union they belong to, or because of the amount of money they posess. It is a birth right and it is about time we voters understand that. This is not the time for petty politics or is it the legislation for pushing political agendas. Every once in a while , we Americans have the obligation to put idealogy aside ,jion together and do what is needed to promote the betterment of our society. We did this when we fought the British, when we abolished slavery, when we defeated the Germans(twice) and in the sixties when real Americans stood up and demanded that civil and voting rights be enjoyed by all of our citizens no matter what the color of their skin.
                  It is a shame that in a country that has sacrificed so much ,so many different times to stand up for the less fortunate people of places like Bosnia, Somalia, Vietnam,Iraq, and dozens of other hell holes that we feel the need to "debate" the merits of "Obamacare" when so many of our own citizens are at risk. See that 55 year old gentle standing in front of you at the supermarket checkout -he has no healthcare insurance because he lost his job 19 months ago and no one is going to hire him because he is "too old". He worked in a factory making Kevlar vest for our boys in Iraq but the financial crisis caused the factory to close. He was a little too young to serve in vietnam and too old for the Gulf War so he isn't eligible for Veterans Health Care Benefits but his father died in WWII. The republicans don't want "illegals" to get healthcare insurance, I don't blame them, none of us do -but if it come down to a few of them "beating" the systems so the American son of a war veteran can get health insurance then I vote on the side of the American son of a war veteran.
                  We take too many things for granted in this country. We shouldn't. The republicans have an easy target in the illegals but what if things get worse and more Americans get laid off and we still don't have a Health Care systems that provides coverage for all citizens. Where will they draw the line then ? Maybe it will be all redheaded people that don't qualify at first, after all there aren't that many redheads, right? If we don't stand up and let our elected Congressmen know how we feel then by the time the debate is over and we finally do get Health Care Insurance for all -it will be so watered down that Blonds and brunettes won't be eligible either.
                  Be an American. Don't get "sucked in" to a debate that shouldn't shouldn't even be happening. Americans stand up not only for their rights but the rights of people who need standing up for. Call , write, E-mail ,text message , or just yell to your Congreeman or Senator. Tell him or her that you are standing up for some poor, unfortunate, oppressed person. A person who is being denied his Human Rights.Tell him that you don't think it should matter that the person just happens to be American
                  9/17/2009 6:50:57 PM

                    Reply#12 - Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:20 PM EDT
                    Shawn-552481

                    Hey Rascal-go to any hospital and tell me if you cannot get treated. Even Obama is now saying it is a health insurance program. See:

                    http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/bradleyportnoy/gGM7N8

                    where it starts with "The Health Insurance Reform Now"

                    So given that you are now saying every person is entitled to health insurance, what about car insurance, flood insurance, life insurance, ID protection insurance, hell, why not pet insurance?

                      #12.1 - Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:12 AM EDT
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