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Feds probe US Census worker hanging in Kentucky

Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:03 PM EDT
us-news, politics, associated-press, worker, hanged, census-worker
Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer

Map locates Daniel Boone National Forest in Clay county Kentucky

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MANCHESTER — When Bill Sparkman told retired trooper Gilbert Acciardo that he was going door-to-door collecting census data in rural Kentucky, the former cop drew on years of experience for a warning: "Be careful."

The 51-year-old Sparkman was found this month hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery with the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.

"Even though he was with the Census Bureau, sometimes people can view someone with any government agency as 'the government.' I just was afraid that he might meet the wrong character along the way up there," said Acciardo, who directs an after-school program at an elementary school where Sparkman was a frequent substitute teacher.

The Census Bureau has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, until the investigation is complete, an official said.

The law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, did not say what type of instrument was used to write the word on the chest of Sparkman, who was supplementing his income doing Census field work. He was found Sept. 12 in a remote patch of Daniel Boone National Forest and an autopsy report is pending.

Manchester, the main hub of the southeastern Kentucky county, is an exit off the highway, with a Walmart, a few hotels, chain restaurants and a couple gas stations. The drive away from town and toward the area where Sparkman's body was found goes through sparsely populated forest with no streetlights, on winding roads that run up and down steep hills.

Manchester Police Chief Jeff Culver, whose agency is not part of the investigation because the death was outside city limits, said the area where Sparkman was found has a history of problems with prescription drug and methamphetamine trading.

"That part of the county, it has its ups and downs. We'll get a lot of complaints of drug activity. They'll whittle away, then flourish back up," Culver said. He said officers last month rounded up 40 drug suspects, mostly dealers, and made several more arrests in subsequent days.

FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is assisting state police and declined to discuss any details of the crime scene. Agents are trying to determine if foul play was involved and whether it had anything to do with Sparkman's job as Census worker, Beyer said. Attacking a federal worker during or because of his federal job is a federal crime.

Lucindia Scurry-Johnson, assistant director of the Census Bureau's southern office in Charlotte, N.C., said law enforcement officers have told the agency the matter is "an apparent homicide" but nothing else.

Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was inside, she said.

Gov. Steve Beshear expressed his condolences to Sparkman's family.

"The Medical Examiner's office is awaiting test results to determine cause of death, and once a cause and manner have been established, state police will focus their investigation in the appropriate direction," Beshear said in a statement.

Sparkman's mother, Henrie Sparkman of Inverness, Fla., told The Associated Press her son was an Eagle scout who moved to Kentucky to direct the local Boy Scouts of America. He later became a substitute teacher in Laurel County, adjacent to the county where his body was found.

She said investigators have given her few details about her son's death. They did tell her his body was decomposed and haven't yet released it for burial.

"I was told it would be better for him to be cremated," she said.

Acciardo said he became suspicious and went to police when Sparkman didn't show up for work at the after-school program in Laurel County for two days. Authorities immediately investigated, he said.

"He was such an innocent person," Acciardo said. "I hate to say that he was naive, but he saw the world as all good, and there's a lot of bad in the world."

Sparkman had worked for the Census since 2003 in five counties in the surrounding area, conducting interviews once or twice a month. Much of his recent work had been in Clay County, officials said.

The Census Bureau has yet to begin door-to-door canvassing for the 2010 head count, but thousands of field workers are doing smaller surveys on various demographic topics on behalf of federal agencies. Next year, the Census Bureau will dispatch up to 1.2 million temporary employees to locate hard-to-find residents.

Mary Hibbard, a teacher in Manchester, said she recognized Sparkman on the news as the census worker who visited her house this summer for about 10 minutes. Hibbard said he asked some basic questions including the size of her house, how many rooms it had and how much she paid monthly for electricity.

"I know he has a Christian background," she said. "You come to my house, we're going to talk religion."

Hibbard said she thinks most people in the area were shocked by the death.

"I think the negative publicity of it is a stigma on our county. It makes people think less of us even though this is an isolated incident."

The Census Bureau is overseen by the Commerce Department.

"We are deeply saddened by the loss of our co-worker," Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said in a statement.

Locke called him "a shining example of the hardworking men and women employed by the Census Bureau."

Kelsee Brown, a waitress at Huddle House, a 24-hour chain restaurant in Manchester, when asked about the death, said she thinks the government sometimes has the wrong priorities.

"Sometimes I think the government should stick their nose out of people's business and stick their nose in their business at the same time. They care too much about the wrong things," she said.

Appalachia scholar Roy Silver, a New York City native now living in Harlan County, Ky., said he doesn't sense an outpouring of anti-government sentiment in the region as has been exhibited in town hall meetings in other parts of the country.

"I don't think distrust of government is any more or less here than anywhere else in the country," said Silver, a sociology professor at Southeast Community College.

The most deadly attack on federal workers came in 1995 when the federal building in Oklahoma City was devastated by a truck bomb, killing 168 and injuring more than 680. Timothy McVeigh, who was executed for the bombing, carried literature by ultra-right-wing, anti-government authors.

Sparkman's mother is simply waiting for answers.

"I have my own ideas, but I can't say them out loud. Not at this point," she said. "Right now, what I'm doing, I'm just waiting on the FBI to come to some conclusion."

___

Barrett reported from Washington, D.C. Associated Press writers Roger Alford in Frankfort, Ky., Hope Yen in Washington and Dylan T. Lovan in Louisville contributed to this report.

© 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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James Andre

The first Bachmann victim.

  • 40 votes
#1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:27 PM EDT
Roy Batty

Yup. Here we go......

Somehow, I believe that if it was a suicide with a message, he would not have bothered with some remote location.

  • 20 votes
#1.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:38 PM EDT
renard

The first Beck victim

  • 27 votes
#1.2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:30 PM EDT
Mike-584822

The infamous right wing rears its ugly head. Save the babies - kill the adults.

  • 26 votes
#1.3 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:09 PM EDT
Eric AlbertDeleted
Kshark

Hey since you guys seem to know precisely who did this and are that PSYCHIC can you all give me the next exact and correct lotto numbers I need some money and you all seem to have all the answers.

Much appreciated.

  • 13 votes
#1.5 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:19 PM EDT
Fellow NoName

Right Kshark! An innocent man dies, let's blame the righties!

You all should be ashamed!

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:36 PM EDT
Ryan-

If anyone has been in the back hills, you will have seen the sign, "trespassers will be killed" they don't joke around. Very different environment, and it has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. Many illegal things going on.

  • 12 votes
#1.7 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:45 PM EDT
DonkeyRidderExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

If anyone has been to the White House, you will have seen the sign, "trespassers will be killed" they don't joke around. Very different environment, and it has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. Many illegal things going on.

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:50 PM EDT
Anrkist

I blame the Right because it's better than blaming Blacks and Hispanics for all of my problems. I'm just sayin...

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:51 PM EDT
Ryan-

DonkeyRidder, why did you copy what I wrote?

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:58 PM EDT
DonkeyRidder

I didn't feel like typing the whole thing out.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:01 PM EDT
Aalaf Alot

If anyone has been to the Cheney, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity Offices, you will have seen the sign, "trespassers will be killed" they don't joke around. Very different environment, and it has nothing to do with Democrats, Decent People, Most Americans. Many illegal things going on.

It most likely Right Wing Conservative Republican Extremist or some Criminal. Or both could be the same thing.

  • 12 votes
#1.12 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:17 PM EDT
James Andre

Hey since you guys seem to know precisely who did this and are that PSYCHIC can you all give me the next exact and correct lotto numbers I need some money and you all seem to have all the answers.

12, 15, 32, 42, 44, 45.

33 for the powerball. You're welcome.

in the back hills, you will have seen the sign, "trespassers will be killed" they don't joke around.

And they don't scrawl words or letters on their victims. Not even a backwards 'B'.

  • 12 votes
#1.13 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:21 PM EDT
bonos_rama

"f anyone has been to the Cheney, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity Offices, you will have seen the sign, "trespassers will be killed" they don't joke around. Very different environment, and it has nothing to do with Democrats, Decent People, Most Americans. Many illegal things going on."

In other words, it's the backwoods ghetto.

  • 3 votes
#1.14 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:28 PM EDT
Aalaf Alot

Right Wing dyslexia Wacko was actually trying to spell DEF using a Mirror for Def Leppard who hate Liberal Heavy Metal Music.

  • 7 votes
#1.15 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:38 PM EDT
Jimster

can you all give me the next exact and correct lotto numbers

Sure: 0-0-0-0-0-0 Bonus# 0

btw those are zeros, not O's

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:52 PM EDT
Paul Lucero

This is a crock of brown slop.

The crime here is MURDER nothing else is of importance.

The Killer is deranged and needs to be brought to justice.

  • 6 votes
#1.17 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:06 AM EDT
Sick'N'Tired'Of'It

Hmmmmm....

Let's see... individuals in authority on a certain side of the political spectrum declare that the census guys were coming to "round up everyone and put them into concentration camps."

Cut to just a few weeks later and a census person is found hung out in the middle of nowhere with the word: "Fed" scrawled across the body....

Coincidence?....

There should be some charges of incitement going out if this world were just- but we obviously know it's not so-

oh well, let the political ramblings and tap-dancing resume....

  • 14 votes
#1.18 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:24 AM EDT
Sol-Badguy

Listen, if J. Strom Thurmond would have been killed in 1964, it would be logical - not correct, but LOGICAL - to ASSUME that either a black person or a civil rights activist was behind it. Now, let's take this one step further and suppose that the word "cracker" was branded into Thurmond's chest right before he had been killed. It is now not only logical but highly probable that a civil rights activist would have been behind this plot.

Fast forward to 2009. A bureaucrat is hanged in a deeply conservative area and branded with "fed". Sure, it COULD have been some mentally deranged liberal with a sick sense of humor, but in all likelihood it was a fringe right-winger. It's not that complicated.

  • 18 votes
#1.19 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:24 AM EDT
Aalaf Alot

once battled Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma

Some Right Wing Conservative Republican probably found out Bill Sparkman medical treatment cost too much thus possibly raising his taxes when Healthcare Reform Passes. So Right Wing Wacko killed Bill Sparkman fearing Lymphoma will no long be benign and resurface. Right Wing Wacko in some twisted way with Glenn Beck and Limbaugh brainwashing saw potential bill on some private Right Wing Conspiracy Forum, $100,000.00. Right Wing Wacko thought it was 100,000,000, confusing the period as a comma with a missing zero.


  • 3 votes
#1.20 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:01 AM EDT
JKiff

Perhaps a victim of Glenn Beck's 9/12 movement.

"Our job is to determine if foul play is involved" - ya think!!!

"Th FBI is investigating whether he was the victim of anti-government sentiment" - ya think!!!

Yet another victim to chalk up to the anti-govt, anti-American, nihilist, neo-nazi right-wing terrorism movement spearheaded by the likes of Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.

  • 8 votes
#1.21 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:30 AM EDT
Bd-652717

Sick'N'Tired'Of'It, Jkiff and others,

For most of you tards people in that region of mountains don't get FOX, MSNBC, CNN and other cable tv stations that spew the hatred. That small area of the country is so anti-government and has been so for a very very long time. Those folks don't usually vote and they don't like unwelcomed visitors. Being a Fed made it even worse as they were the one's who generally were trying to stop the boot legging of the old days. So to pop off some of the anti Beck, Hannity and other statements just goes to show your bais of people's character based on political affiliation. I guess ignorance is bliss for both the murder and for some of you folks who are so astute in your assumptions. This person or persons may have been a right/left wing lunatic but most likely just a lunatic who hates government!

  • 5 votes
#1.22 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:34 AM EDT
Patriotic Dissenter

It was Col Mustard with the rope in the forest. In this case, Col. Mustard is most likely a lib. Since they have no cares about aborting babies upon demand, surely killing an adult is like big game to them. Sort of like hunting bear is for regualr folk. Collapse me ..... please!!!!!!

  • 3 votes
#1.23 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:40 AM EDT
Tappy McWidestance

The first Beck victim

Actually it would be the second or third depending one whether you choose to link the museum shooter to him or not. Dr. Tiller was the first.

I think this one will be shown to be motivated more by Michele Bachmann (R-Minn) instead of Glenn Beck.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., says Americans should refuse to comply with the Obama administration’s 2010 census because the data could be used for nefarious purposes, including the imprisonment of Americans in internment camps

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/bachmann_census_camps/2009/06/26/229377.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/01/michele-bachmanns-census_n_224175.html

  • 6 votes
#1.24 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:54 AM EDT
Kshark

I'm just surprised they didn't eat his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

*smirking*

And people for bloody sake GET OFF THE DAMN political merry-go-round with this story.

  • 2 votes
#1.25 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:39 AM EDT
jdl-28

Idiots blaming something on other people without knowing the fact, very simple minded. So please write more so one group or the other can be blame so you can feel good about yourself.

    #1.26 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:03 PM EDT
    edward j-1337034

    this is very sad and tragic, but i would advise caution to all in looking for scapegoats, the feds are rightly keeping a tight lid on this, we must give them a chance to fully investigate.

    i for one do not want to be witness, to a killing inspired by rhetoric, irregardless of source

    • 2 votes
    #1.27 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:12 PM EDT
    Bill M NY

    Are all of you mental? There are plenty of people who are distrustful of the feds, not because there is a right or left in power, because they hate the government. They didn't trust Uncle Sam 5 years ago, 10 years ago, and don't trust him now.

    There is also a HUGE drug trade in the area. Guess who the main enemies are for that drug trade are? The Feds. You are brewing up some Meth or growing a cash crop of weed, are you going to let a fed walk in and see it? Are you going to let him walk back out?

    I doubt the people cooking in a shack in the back woods are really concerned about politics. More than likely they don't even know who is president. Really, get a grip and a whole world view, not everyone cares about left and right as much as you people do.

    • 4 votes
    #1.28 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:49 PM EDT
    James Andre

    I doubt the people cooking in a shack in the back woods are really concerned about politics. More than likely they don't even know who is president. Really, get a grip and a whole world view, not everyone cares about left and right as much as you people do.

    Such protestations.

    I just have to wonder; before Bachmann, zero people strung up and labeled "Fed." After Bachmann, one.

    I wonder--why these crazy anti-government, back-woods, incestuous, meth cooking, pot growing criminals never got around to writing anything on their other victims.

    • 1 vote
    #1.29 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:14 PM EDT
    R. O. Davis

    So-Badguy: Your logic is very good. It only has one flaw. Anyone killing the person for a different reason, could use the same logic to throw the investigators off the trail. Investigators can not presume anything. They must follow the evidence. I do have one question. If it was a paranoid wacko political nut wo did it, why did they not destroy the computer? Wouldn't they hae been terrified about the information that might have been colected about them?

      #1.30 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT
      James Andre

      why did they not destroy the computer? Wouldn't they hae been terrified about the information that might have been colected about them?

      Simple. They didn't think of it. They never personally provided information, and they never considered that a lack of information could point them out.

      • 2 votes
      #1.31 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:00 AM EDT
      storyartist

      If they are truly hill folks, they may not even have a clue what we do with computers now. Like it used to be with bringing TV in.

      • 1 vote
      #1.32 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:44 AM EDT
      SayWhat-1315936

      Little place down the road just got a telephone a couple of years back. Some places still doing without electricity, let alone cable or Internet.

      And that's here in Idaho, not far from where Farnsworth got the idea for TV out plowing a field.

        #1.33 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:55 AM EDT
        Bd-652717

        Don't all of you feel really stupid now!

        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091124/ap_on_re_us/us_census_worker_hanged

        • 1 vote
        #1.34 - Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:32 PM EST
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        lifeinaraindrop

        Let it be known. This is the day the GOP stepped over the line into political violence.

        • 32 votes
        #2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:46 PM EDT
        Neale Osborn

        What an idiotic statement that was. Not every nut job is a Republican. There are jackasses, scumbags, and violent criminals on both ends of the political spectrum. It could also be as simple as asking census questions of a moonshiner or other common criminal, and being thought of as a federal agent who was undercover. Wait for the investigation before you run your mouth.

        • 18 votes
        #2.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:25 PM EDT
        2scentsworth

        Besides that, I seem to remember that there have been issues of violence toward census workers in the past, just because they were census workers.

        Some people feel threatened by the government, regardless of political persuasion.

        • 13 votes
        #2.2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:55 PM EDT
        Paul William Tenny

        There are jackasses, scumbags, and violent criminals on both ends of the political spectrum.

        Unless there are an equal number on both sides -- there aren't -- that's what's called a false equivalency. You don't see liberals/Democrats/"the left" taking political dissent to this level.

        • 19 votes
        #2.3 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:19 PM EDT
        ComSen

        And in some areas of the country, moonshiners don't particularly like the government.

        • 8 votes
        #2.4 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:37 PM EDT
        Fellow NoName

        This article has nothing to do with partisan politics! I'm not a Republican, but I'll sure as hell never like lefties, and these comments on this thread go to show exactly why.

        • 7 votes
        #2.5 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:38 PM EDT
        DanaR-1273622

        Those on the left stepped over the line into violence long before today

        • 7 votes
        #2.6 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:46 PM EDT
        Honor and Harmony

        I see more of this kind of hate coming from the rightwing exclusively.

        1. the planned parenthood clinic violence
        2. timothy mcveigh
        3. the militias

        etc etc

        Righties want to call liberals weak peace marchers but when yet another instance of rightwing violence comes out they want to say libs do it too.

        NO THEY DON'T!!!!!!

        • 21 votes
        #2.7 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:00 PM EDT
        Ferrari5k

        What a shame, the poor guy must've come across someone who wanted to take out his (their) imangined frustrations on the FEDS. I'm a Conservative and I don't doubt it was some sicko with hard core anti-government sentiment. The investigators are surely pouring over IRS records looking for someone with a real grudge. These people don't make any distinction between those who are just like the rest of us and doing their job, and the guy who maybe did something to make this guy hate feds. To them all Gov employees are the enemy. They'd better find him (them) quick as he believes he's at war with the bad guys now. The guy's no better than a Terrorist or a traitor and needs to meet Mr. FBI and his friends, ASAP.

        • 8 votes
        #2.8 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
        bonos_rama

        Righties want to call liberals weak peace marchers but when yet another instance of rightwing violence comes out they want to say libs do it too.

        Hear hear!

        • 4 votes
        #2.9 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:30 PM EDT
        lifeinaraindrop

        The last time I know there was political violence from the left was when 58,000 soldiers died for the Vietnam war, or during the civil rights protests.

        How was this not what was expected, considering the "exercising" of gun rights and outlandish demonization of progressives and the government? The GOP as a whole is guilty of this obvious murder with their sword rattling; abstaining from philosophical and necessary debate to divulge into rancor over a simple loss of a handful of elections. Glenn Beck's, Bachmann's, Palin's, Limbaugh's claim of ACORN, new world order, white racism, and the supposed take over by nazi-communist-fascist-antichrist leader.

        Lynch mobs of the civil rights era shall return.

        • 5 votes
        #2.10 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:06 AM EDT
        radiowave

        Let it be known. This is the day the GOP stepped over the line into political violence.

        Really? I didn't know moonshiners followed political organizations, your incite is terrific, now I can rest easy knowing there's an agenda here.

        • 4 votes
        #2.11 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:12 AM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        some sicko with hard core anti-government sentiment

        Anti-government progressives? Yeah, sure, okay. Keep dreaming.

        • 4 votes
        #2.12 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:26 AM EDT
        RuthAnn-595820

        I see more of this kind of hate coming from the rightwing exclusively.

        1. the planned parenthood clinic violence
        2. timothy mcveigh
        3. the militias
      • Abby Hofffman, The Weather Underground, Bill Ayers, ELF, ALF, etc, etc.
      • nuts on both sides
        • 3 votes
        #2.13 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:44 AM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        Hey, how many people did Bill Ayers kill...oh yeah.

        Wait, how many abortion doctors have liberals killed...oh yeah.

        Nuts on both sides to be sure, but this nut was a right-wing nut.

        • 8 votes
        #2.14 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:50 AM EDT
        RuthAnn-595820

        I have police in my family . . . so it may not matter to you, but it matters to me that he wanted to kill them.

        Planning on killing innocent people, to build bombs in an attempt to kill and maim innocent people to make your point -- it matters to me. Obviously not to you.

        But at least Canada is smarter than us, did you see that they wouldn't let him into the country when he was invited there to give a speech at some college; they said he was on their terrorist watch list and wouldn't let him in. I have a lot more respect for Canada now.

        • 3 votes
        #2.15 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:59 AM EDT
        Sol-Badguy

        but it matters to me that he wanted to kill them.

        Planning on killing innocent people...it matters to me. Obviously not to you.

        Interesting...rival gangs across the world always WANT to kill their opponents...oh, that's right, here on planet Earth you don't get killed by thoughts, you get killed by guns. I don't remember any gangsters doing a drive-by of bad karma and ill thought anytime in the last decade.

        I have a lot more respect for Canada now.

        You are aware that this is the same Canada in which lawyers tried to keep Bush out of their country (even though he was just giving a speech) on account of his alleged status as a war criminal? I also have respect for Canada's single payer healthcare system. It's obvious you don't know jack-diddly about Canada.

        • 7 votes
        #2.16 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:11 AM EDT
        RuthAnn-595820

        don't get killed by thoughts,

        Uh -- they do get killed by bombs, which they were making. In fact the bomb went off and killed one of his comrades by mistake. So when your 'thoughts' become bomb-making they are deadly.

        Interesting you feel the need to come to the defense of a would-be-cop-killer. (wonder what that says about you)

        • 3 votes
        #2.17 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:40 AM EDT
        Mike-584822

        Sorry Ruth. But these was a splinter group of the Weatherman group and unfortunately the idiot that died was in the radical group. Ayaers was not there.

        • 2 votes
        #2.18 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:34 AM EDT
        Bd-652717

        Some of you on the left need to remember some of your affiliates like PETA, Ayres, Rev White all have spewed hatred and some of them have commited violence against innocent people.

        • 4 votes
        #2.19 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:38 AM EDT
        Patriotic Dissenter

        You don't see liberals/Democrats/"the left" taking political dissent to this level.

        I just spit our my coffee on a coworker reading that most childish and ill informed comment. Dems/libs civil? Dems/libs never taking it to this level? You, my friend, have just got to get out and see the real world. How's this for libs "not" being scumbags.

        http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/rnc-protests.html

        http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/WeatherUndergrnd.pdf

        • 3 votes
        #2.20 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:14 AM EDT
        bonos_rama

        "ome of you on the left need to remember some of your affiliates like PETA, Ayres, Rev White all have spewed hatred and some of them have commited violence against innocent people. "

        Yes, Rev. white is a prime example of what religion does to people. His religion is to blame for his hatred.

        • 1 vote
        #2.21 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:42 AM EDT
        common sense-457836

        How many people has Rev Wright killed? I want an exact figure.

        • 2 votes
        #2.22 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:52 PM EDT
        Bd-652717

        boons_orama,

        Rev. White is only an example of how not to be a Christian. The difference is that Rev. White does not teach Christian values. He only teaches hate for the Government and hate towards whitey. Maybe, you should read the bible before espousing delusional ideas and speading your hate and fear.

        • 2 votes
        #2.23 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:53 PM EDT
        Bd-652717

        common sense,

        Try acting like your screen name and use a little common sense and read the entire post. I never said he killed anybody.

          #2.24 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
          Sol-Badguy

          Rev. White is only an example of how not to be a Christian.

          Does the name Tim Haggard ring a bell?

          • 2 votes
          #2.25 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:37 PM EDT
          Reply
          mstanley2265

          Uhhh southeast ky doesn't have a good history as in lotta DEA needed. We probably need to wait and see what the investigation turns up. Some of their locals are real touchy about any gov't worker seen as "too nosy". I wouldn't apply for that job.

          • 9 votes
          Reply#3 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:10 PM EDT
          Frank BlackDeleted
          2scentsworth

          Some of their locals are real touchy about any gov't worker seen as "too nosy".

          mstanley2265, exactly!

          • 5 votes
          #3.2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:56 PM EDT
          ComSen

          Special Ops forces should go in there and wipe out these American Talibanners!

          Other than this being against the law.

          • 8 votes
          #3.3 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:38 PM EDT
          Mike-584822

          I think the National Guard has Spec Ops troops. The Guard is the only military that can legally arrest USA citizens.

          • 4 votes
          #3.4 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:43 PM EDT
          tyler

          And why should anyone be afraid to apply for this job if the good citizens of SE Kentucky are not Whitewingnut teabagging potgrowing moonshiners? If this part of Kentucky is so dangerous then Special Ops forces should go in there and wipe out these American Talibanners!

          Trolling a region of a state? Really? Cut it out. Frank Black, you're suspended for a week for violating #5 of the Code of Honor - second suspension in a week.

          • 5 votes
          #3.5 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:42 PM EDT
          NativeAmerican-1289371

          hmm- I see that Brother Black was suspended until October 1. Apparently some people on this travesty of a discussion forum can't handle the truth.

          • 1 vote
          #3.6 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:15 PM EDT
          Fellow NoName

          What the hell are you talking about Eagle? The travesty is taking an innocent mans murder and politicizing it. Hell, I'm not even religious, but I'm taking offense to this nonsense!

          • 1 vote
          #3.7 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:01 PM EDT
          edward j-1337034

          people are unfairly jumping to conclusions, but i have noticed that fox barely mentions this murder, compared to other stations.

          • 1 vote
          #3.8 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:49 PM EDT
          mike lonkouski

          Maybe it's because one murder in our bloodbath of a country isn't all that significant.

            #3.9 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:57 PM EDT
            R. O. Davis

            Mike: The National Guard can only arrest or detain people under marshal law. When marshal law is decleared, any troops used have the same power.

              #3.10 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:58 PM EDT
              Reply
              Frank BlackDeleted
              servus_aus_tex

              Okay. NOW can we nuke the South?

              • 16 votes
              Reply#5 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:41 PM EDT
              Rahlly

              ::hands her my 2 digits of the 4 billion digit code:: here ya are!

              77

              • 1 vote
              #5.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:53 PM EDT
              Max Black

              For the kazillionth time, it's not the whole South, or even the vast majority of Southerners. We have our lunatic "American Taliban" fringe, but they are not representative of the region's populace as a whole. Save your nukes.

              • 9 votes
              #5.2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:07 PM EDT
              RuthAnn-595820

              When I lived in Chicago there were a couple of meter readers who were killed . . .

              it can be dangerous anywhere, there can be nuts anywhere . . .and they don't necessarily care whether you are a governement worker or not, (it might be -- but that could be a red-herring too), often I think it's just opportunistic nutcases.

              • 3 votes
              #5.3 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:49 AM EDT
              Reply
              waukone

              We should be worried about home grown terrorists. Militia's, tea baggers, wacko's are more a threat than foreign terrorists.

              • 15 votes
              Reply#6 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:18 PM EDT
              renard

              I have never been afraid of foreigners, some of them hates us and I accept that fact, but the lunatics and wackos here in America they are a real problem.

              • 16 votes
              #6.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:32 PM EDT
              Ryan-

              renard, go to a third world slum, and tell me you aren't afraid. I would rather walk around the streets of LA, were I have been held at gun point, then a slum in South America.

              • 4 votes
              #6.2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:51 PM EDT
              Sol-Badguy

              I'd rather walk around a slum in South America (I know enough Spanish) than own a donut shop in Russia. Ever heard of "the roof", or khrysha?

              • 2 votes
              #6.3 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:29 AM EDT
              Reply
              Samantha Joy

              Bachmann or Beck, he's hardly the first.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#7 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:44 PM EDT
              Andi-1045453

              Why is this the first time we're hearing of this if he was found 11 days ago?

              Well, the Right has achieved their goal. We've turned on each other like animals.

              • 11 votes
              Reply#8 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:12 PM EDT
              Paul William Tenny

              Obviously the liberal media is covering this up because...wait, .. I'll think of something in a second.

              • 12 votes
              #8.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:21 PM EDT
              Reply
              renard

              The government has been attacked and the first attack as predicted came from the south.

              I clipped this column to all Groups that I belong to and every one needs to do the same. So that every one can see that the silly season has arrived.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#9 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:36 PM EDT
              mstanley2265

              Uhh I don't think they're in the wingnut business..it's more like Clay County, ky keeping up the older traditions of the heck with any gov't people and doing what they do shall I say otherwise producing and selling non walmart merchandise?

              • 1 vote
              Reply#10 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:40 PM EDT
              theebelle

              WOW...I dont think its north, south, black, white or political...JUST PLAIN IGNORANCE!

              • 6 votes
              Reply#11 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:45 PM EDT
              zennhead

              Keep your eyes peeled for incidents in CATRON COUNTY, NM. It's about 5-7000 square miles of empty NM country, and with a population of 3000 or so, it's very sparsely settled. A federal wolf reintroduction program has been underway for a decade or more, and the wolves are tracked by radio collar and have been killed that way. I'd bet money ranchers have formed some committees that fund special hunters and trackers, and I hope the recent arrest and sentencing of one wolf killer leads to him spilling the beans on who these ranchers are.

              If they've attacked Forest Service or BLM workers in CATRON COUNTY, NM, then it won't surprise me. It's redneck heaven. And worse. They even tried to pass a county ordnance that required everyone to be fully armed ... no one allowed to NOT own a gun. Wow! It died, I believe, but who knows what they've done to or resorted to doing, with the wolf hatred, which IS like a mass hysteria in RESERVE, NM.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#12 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:12 PM EDT
              ohiogal-479871

              Horrible.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#13 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:17 PM EDT
              CuriousG

              I'm embarrassed to admit I grew up in Kentucky.

              My heart goes out to his family and students.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#14 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:26 PM EDT
              oneburn

              i mean, it is kentucky. he probably meant to write "FRED"

              • 21 votes
              Reply#15 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:33 PM EDT
              Brian Ford

              Not appropriate. But still made me laugh.

              Gets a vote.

              • 11 votes
              #15.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:35 PM EDT
              mike lonkouski

              Fred! That's awesome!

                #15.2 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT
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                DonkeyRidderExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                The poor census worker said something fishy about Obama's TyrannyCare and was turned in to flag(at sign)whitehouse(dot)gov. There are going to be a lot of flu deaths and accidents in the coming months, as well as more set ups framing the Obama opposition.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#16 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:35 PM EDT
                Ledif Nieht

                Might I interest you in my new line of finely crafted tin foil hats?

                • 17 votes
                #16.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:38 PM EDT
                DonkeyRidder

                Only if you have one with the Obama Joker picture, and I'll take ten of them.

                • 3 votes
                #16.2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:52 PM EDT
                Honor and HarmonyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                DR the typical repub; silly and ignorant.

                • 8 votes
                #16.3 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:05 PM EDT
                DonkeyRidderExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Whatever. Beats ship-for-brains liberals/statists/progressives/Marxists/Obamaphiles. And we're better lovers.

                • 3 votes
                #16.4 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:10 PM EDT
                ohiogal-479871

                And we're better lovers.

                lol! No. No you're not.

                :o

                • 5 votes
                #16.5 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:34 PM EDT
                SayWhat-1315936

                Rider- glad to see you're still up to your old tricks.

                And we're better lovers.

                So was that a reference to your donkey? Sorry, I tried to restrain myself but you make yourself such an easy target. Maybe it's because you target others in such an elegant way.

                How you can joke about someones murder, insult the President, insult millions of Americans and sit back and laugh shows your true character. I have hope that someday you'll pull your head out of your donkey and come up for air but I won't hold my breath. Enjoy riding that donkey, lover.

                • 5 votes
                #16.6 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:18 AM EDT
                Sol-Badguy

                And we're better lovers.

                Oh really? Do the names Tim "Crystal Meth for Christ, Born-Again Heterosexual" Haggard, Larry "Wide Stance" Craig, Mark "You And I Both Know What Trail I Was Hiking" Sanford, Newt "We Had Oral Sex" Gingrich, John "Hey, I PAID For My Affair, So It's Okay" Ensign, Bill "Was That a $10 Million Out-of-court Settlement?" O'Reilly, J. Strom "I'm Racist, But Ignore My Black Love-child" Thurmond, and Rudy "St. Patrick's Day Serial Adulterer" Giuliani?

                But of course, only Democrats have sex outside of marriage.

                • 4 votes
                #16.7 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:38 AM EDT
                DonkeyRidder

                How you can joke about someones murder, insult the President, insult millions of Americans and sit back and laugh shows your true character.

                Here we are in a serious seed about a murder perhaps prompted by the community aggitator Obama and one or more of his brown shirts and you have to make sick jokes about your liberalism derived fetish with animal sex. It justs shows the content of your character has evaporated.

                • 2 votes
                #16.8 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:01 AM EDT
                Sol-Badguy

                a murder perhaps prompted by the community aggitator Obama and one or more of his brown shirts

                Sure, yes, disagreeing with the president's policies is a justifiable pretense for murder...please, do continue.

                you have to make sick jokes about your liberalism derived fetish with animal sex.

                That doesn't even make sense. Let's parse the sentence. "Sick jokes", that's the subject/direct object of the verb "make", okay, then we've got "about your liberalism-derived fetish" and "with animal sex" as the prepositional phrases...what terrible prose. Regardless, your statement still makes no sense at all in context.

                It justs shows the content of your character has evaporated.

                This coming from a person who claimed that one party was more proficient in bed than the other...but go ahead, just keep on digging.

                • 2 votes
                #16.9 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:43 PM EDT
                DonkeyRidder

                You lose!

                  #16.10 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:45 PM EDT
                  Sol-Badguy

                  You lose!

                  Whoa, you must have temporarily mistaken me for John McCain.

                  • 2 votes
                  #16.11 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:39 PM EDT
                  SayWhat-1315936

                  Beats ship-for-brains liberals/statists/progressives/Marxists/Obamaphiles. And we're better lovers.

                  You lose!

                  Here we are in a serious seed about a murder perhaps prompted by the community aggitator Obama and one or more of his brown shirts and you have to make sick jokes about your liberalism derived fetish with animal sex. It justs shows the content of your character has evaporated.

                  It is the right who believes the killer should be brought to justice and eligible for the death penalty. And no, I don't care about the politics of the killer in any attempt to justify such an act, the penalty should be the same.

                  By the way, statistically, it is about 10 times as likely it was an Obama supporter that commited the murder if one looks at all murders.

                  immediately clear this was planted for Obamaphiles to start the aggitation. I plan to counter the idiotic liberal/progressive/Democrat/Marxist/statist perverted use of the murder to attack the right and to justify their hatred for traditional America and their political opponents. The article was posted for only one reason, to aggitate the masses by fueling the anger the left perpetually generates.

                  The poor census worker said something fishy about Obama's TyrannyCare and was turned in to flag(at sign)whitehouse(dot)gov. There are going to be a lot of flu deaths and accidents in the coming months, as well as more set ups framing the Obama opposition

                  Any one else think this guy should send in his resume to Fox?

                  • 2 votes
                  #16.12 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:47 PM EDT
                  storyartist

                  You betcha!

                  • 2 votes
                  #16.13 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:22 PM EDT
                  Reply
                  SteveL-1363662

                  Us politicizing acts of violence like this will only help polorize the country. You can't sneeze nowadays without someone hysterically associating it with the left or the right.

                  Although we don't have all the details we should see this for what really is: an awful act of violence and loss of life. If acts like this divide us and not unite us then we are really in for trouble up the road. It's time we come together as a nation regardless of politics. Don't let the pundits and politicians dictate who is right or wrong. Make up youe own mind but respect your neighbor [even if he is different than you, that is the point you see].

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#17 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:37 PM EDT
                  renard

                  If reporting a killing means the country has to be polarized then polarize the country.

                  • 6 votes
                  #17.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:01 PM EDT
                  SteveL-1363662

                  I don't mean to suppress the news of the killing but it sickens me that people are more concerned about blaming the right wing than the actual individual who did this. The GOP didn't kill this guy, Glenn Beck didn't kill this guy. Whoever did it is the guilty person and he should be judged for this heinous act and not for his political affiliation especially when so little details are known of exactly what happened. We can't explain and justify everything through partisan lines but that's exactly what we are doing

                  • 2 votes
                  #17.2 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:38 AM EDT
                  Reply
                  Rixar13

                  During these hard economic times this poor soul was just trying to supplement his income...?

                  She said he later became a substitute teacher in Laurel County and supplemented that income as a Census worker.

                  • 9 votes
                  Reply#18 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:40 PM EDT
                  Ronald Reagan '12Deleted
                  Upscheidt Creek

                  It would be a safe guess that every state in the union has produced their fair share of lunatics, murderers, crack-pots etc. To denigrate an entire state for the actions of a few is asinine. (But that seems to be par for the course)

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#20 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:43 PM EDT
                  Mike-584822

                  But we do the same with Muslims. A few took down some buildings and we blame their entire population for it.

                  • 8 votes
                  #20.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:46 PM EDT
                  Upscheidt Creek

                  I don't believe Muslims are the topic of discussion here.

                  • 5 votes
                  #20.2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:53 PM EDT
                  Proud Non-arab muslim

                  Maybe not.. But he/she sure makes a good point about how many people are hypocrits... oh yeah... I forgot.. Muslims are the new blacks/hispanics/irish/ect. so that makes it ok. (rolls eyes)

                  • 4 votes
                  #20.3 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:13 AM EDT
                  Upscheidt Creek

                  from Mike in post # 20.1

                  But we do the same with Muslins

                  Did you not read the following on my post?

                  But that seems par for the course

                  • 1 vote
                  #20.4 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:42 AM EDT
                  Mike-584822

                  Upscheidt Creek I did and I think I was reinforcing your viewpoint. We can't blame the whole group for the misdeeds of a few lunatics.

                    #20.5 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:41 PM EDT
                    Reply
                    bigmeat42

                    Wow, just another sad story in America. If whoever did it didn't like Gov't, they could at least just scare him and let that man alone to live his life just like they are

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#21 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:51 PM EDT
                    Max Black

                    Why scare him? Does he not have the right to his views? Thanks for your non-lethal intolerance, but I'll pass, thanks.

                    • 4 votes
                    #21.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:11 PM EDT
                    Reply
                    Cris K

                    This is a true tragedy. If this was a politically motivated killing then the worst is really here. Whoever inspired this action, if it is political, is the true criminal here. If any good can come of this, maybe just maybe, it will wake up both sides in this idiotic rhetoric and convince them that the irresponsible words spoken on the airwaves do indeed have consequences and responsible media MUST be encouraged over 'shock' entertainment. Sadly, if this is indeed the result of an extreme result to all the rhetoric, the media will claim innocence and wash their hands. If this horrible tragedy is the result of a weaker mind giving in to the hateful preachings we see, then lets, as a community, condemn them and withhold any attention to 'shock' 'journalists'. This has gone way too far!

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#22 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:51 PM EDT
                    Mike-584822

                    Concur Cris. The rancor should cease.

                    • 5 votes
                    #22.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:53 PM EDT
                    renard

                    I can see Glen Beck crying now, he rubs onions on his hands

                    Sean Hanitty twirling his pen trying to look concerned and sincere

                    Bill O'Reilly talking about cultural values folks

                    The 3 stooges early in the morning feigning genuine surprise

                    And the rest of them Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, and other FNC contributors acting really dismayed.

                    But folks when you play with fire something or some one is going to get burned.

                    • 4 votes
                    #22.2 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:36 AM EDT
                    Reply
                    Besibug-561369

                    Anyone think the census worker stumbled upon a pot farm and was caught and killed?

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#23 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:53 PM EDT
                    Mike-584822

                    I knew an Airman that went bike riding with his friend in Kentucky and they were found murdered. Pot farmers are big in the sticks. This is the only incident that I personally know about.

                    • 1 vote
                    #23.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:58 PM EDT
                    renard

                    No them folks got enough money to pay their way out of a prison sentence.

                    • 2 votes
                    #23.2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:58 PM EDT
                    oneburn

                    1960 called, it wants it's tagline back

                    • 1 vote
                    #23.3 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:58 PM EDT
                    Upscheidt Creek

                    Anyone think the census worker stumbled upon a pot farm and was caught and killed?

                    Anything is possible....it's even possible that if that was the case... that it was being operated by an out-of-stater.....maybe someone from New York, California, etc......you know, one of states where everyone is well educated, have all their teeth, know everything there is to know about everything.....

                    • 3 votes
                    #23.4 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:24 PM EDT
                    mstanley2265

                    LOL and thumbs up good one

                      #23.5 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:10 AM EDT
                      Upscheidt Creek

                      Thanks! :0)

                      • 1 vote
                      #23.6 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:46 AM EDT
                      Reply
                      bigmeat42

                      Also who cares if it is the left or right, aman lost his life do to someone evil that is still free

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#24 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:54 PM EDT
                      DonkeyRidder

                      How do you it was Obama?

                      • 2 votes
                      #24.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:03 PM EDT
                      Cris K

                      Aww DR is trying to talk, isn't it cute?

                      If you plan to use a man's murder as a platform for your rhetoric, at least try to make some sense! It makes no difference what platform may have resulted in this tragedy, a person's life was taken, their family is shattered. You are disgusting!

                      • 6 votes
                      #24.2 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:27 PM EDT
                      DonkeyRidder

                      It makes no difference, huh? No need to figure that out so it doesn't happen again. No need to figure it out so the killer can be captured and brought to justice.

                      You think I planned to use this as a platform? I didn't seed it. I started reading the comments and it was immediately clear this was planted for Obamaphiles to start the aggitation. I plan to counter the idiotic liberal/progressive/Democrat/Marxist/statist perverted use of the murder to attack the right and to justify their hatred for traditional America and their political opponents. The article was posted for only one reason, to aggitate the masses by fueling the anger the left perpetually generates.

                      It is the right who believes the killer should be brought to justice and eligible for the death penalty. And no, I don't care about the politics of the killer in any attempt to justify such an act, the penalty should be the same.

                      By the way, statistically, it is about 10 times as likely it was an Obama supporter that commited the murder if one looks at all murders.

                      • 1 vote
                      #24.3 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:14 AM EDT
                      James Andre

                      By the way, statistically, it is about 10 times as likely it was an Obama supporter that commited the murder if one looks at all murders.

                      Fortunately, about 93% of all statistics are made up.

                      • 4 votes
                      #24.4 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:01 AM EDT
                      DonkeyRidder

                      So true since Obama started trying to justify his take over of health care, banking, investment, and salaries.

                      • 1 vote
                      #24.5 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:31 AM EDT
                      Sol-Badguy

                      So true since Reagan started trying to justify his tax cuts for big business ans the wealthy, trickle-down economics, the moral majority, and reverse discrimination.

                      Swords cut two ways, my friend.

                      • 2 votes
                      #24.6 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:48 PM EDT
                      Reply
                      brianfromPA

                      Bachmann is the one that told people to avoid the census bureau. I know it was someone else that committed this act, but this is where it starts. Who the heck even knows where it will end.

                      These people keep speaking, and we laugh, but there are too many unstable people in this country that hear the words and turn it to violence.

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#25 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:08 PM EDT
                      Ryan-

                      Do you also think Marilyn Manson and Judas Priest made people kill people? Should we get rid of Rap music too?

                      • 4 votes
                      #25.1 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:00 AM EDT
                      renard

                      I don't know, but I do know a man is dead and it looks to be related to right wing Republicans.

                      • 3 votes
                      #25.2 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:38 AM EDT
                      Fellow NoName

                      No, Renard, you don't know Sh!t. Way to go taking a man's murder to join into a pissing partisan argument.

                      • 6 votes
                      #25.3 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:03 AM EDT
                      brianfromPA

                      In the end someone committed a murder... Am I saying anyone pulled the trigger with their words? No... but people need to pay attention and wise up. Nobody knows yet the motivation, but there are definitely some unstable people out there.

                      Marilyn Manson no... Charles Manson did make other people kill though.

                      By the way... I am not being political on this issue... There is a lot of hate spewed in the media right now on both sides... I hate both Democrats and Republicans... they are killing us all.

                      • 2 votes
                      #25.4 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:07 AM EDT
                      Fellow NoName

                      brian, I couldn't agree more! Hate em both, and this thread shows exactly why!

                      • 4 votes
                      #25.5 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:12 AM EDT
                      Reply
                      Meturaf

                      To be honest, the way the article is framed here, I thought that someone had was starving somewhere and couldnt get food, so he ended up carving up his chest for deli slices and then hanging himself when pain got too great. Not trying to be funny at the mans expense but the title had me thinking i would be reading a totally different story.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#26 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:16 PM EDT
                      James Andre

                      That's hilarious. Yeah, 'fed' should be in quotes LOL or "Census Worker Hanged, "FED" Scrawled on Chest."

                      • 4 votes
                      #26.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:27 PM EDT
                      Reply
                      AlKhidr

                      Yes, folks, we should wait on this one until we have more evidence. There's about enough to go on here as there was yellowcake uranium in Iraq back in 2003.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#27 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:44 PM EDT
                      Upscheidt Creek

                      Slid that one right in there, didn't you? smooth......

                      • 2 votes
                      #27.1 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:56 PM EDT
                      AlKhidr

                      Yeah, I was going to make a joke about dueling banjos, but I didn't want to get flamed for joshing about those backwoods "real Americans" Palin was referring to.

                      • 1 vote
                      #27.2 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:04 AM EDT
                      Tappy McWidestance

                      Yeah, I was going to make a joke about dueling banjos...

                      I'll bet he was killed because he didn't squeal just right.

                      • 1 vote
                      #27.3 - Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:09 PM EDT
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