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Karzai vows to keep corrupt officials out of govt

Mon Nov 2, 2009 5:16 AM EST
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Robert H. Reid, Associated Press
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<p>An election poster of Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai, who was a presidential candidate in the Aug. 20 vote, is seen, right, as supporters of Afghanistan's presidential challenger Abdullah Abdullah leave a gathering after Abdullah announced his withdrawal from the run-off election in Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, Nov. 1, 2009. President Hamid Karzai's challenger withdrew Sunday from next weekend's runoff election, effectively handing the incumbent a victory but raising doubts about the government's credibility at a time when the U.S. is seeking an effective partner in the war against the Taliban. (AP Photo/Musadeq Sadeq)  </p>

An election poster of Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai, who was a presidential candidate in the Aug. 20 vote, is seen, right, as supporters of Afghanistan's presidential challenger Abdullah Abdullah leave a gathering after Abdullah announced his withdrawal from the run-off election in Kabul, Afghanistan, Sunday, Nov. 1, 2009. President Hamid Karzai's challenger withdrew Sunday from next weekend's runoff election, effectively handing the incumbent a victory but raising doubts about the government's credibility at a time when the U.S. is seeking an effective partner in the war against the Taliban. (AP Photo/Musadeq Sadeq)

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KABUL — The embattled Afghan president pledged Sunday that there would be no place for corrupt officials in his new administration — a demand made by Washington and its international partners as they ponder sending more troops to confront the Taliban and shore up his government.

Also Sunday, NATO reported three more coalition soldiers — one American and two Britons — died in combat with the Taliban in western and southern areas. The latest losses pushed Britain's combat death toll in the eight-year Afghan war to 201.

NATO forces said they were still searching for two American paratroopers who disappeared Wednesday while trying to recover airdropped supplies that had fallen into a river. Afghan police said the two Americans were swept away by the current and may have drowned.

With casualties mounting, corruption has become a frontburner issue in Afghanistan, with President Barack Obama and other world leaders under pressure from their own constituents to explain why they are sending young soldiers to fight and die in defense of a government riddled with graft, cronyism and fraud.

Obama is considering a request from the top U.S. and NATO commander to send tens of thousands more U.S. troops to curb the growing Taliban insurgency.

Hamid Karzai was proclaimed the winner last week in a fraud-marred presidential election after his only remaining challenger dropped out ahead of a runoff, saying he did not expect a fair vote.

With his reputation sullied by the messy election, Karzai gave assurances Sunday that he would rid his government of corrupt officials.

"Individuals who are involved in corruption will have no place in the government," Karzai said in an interview with the U.S. Public Broadcasting Service. The presidential press office released comments from the interview.

Karzai also said donor countries share some of the responsibility for rampant corruption because of a poorly structured system to manage projects. The U.N. and some donor countries have also cited the need for a more efficient system to guarantee the money serves the Afghan people.

"There is no accountability of their contracts, and there is a serious corruption in the implementation of those projects. And the responsibility for this corruption is (with) the international community," Karzai said. "I am hopeful that by joint cooperation we will be able to overcome all these challenges."

Karzai said he was hoping to recruit people "that have the skills and talent, no matter what they are, man or woman."

His remarks were made one day after the Afghan Foreign Ministry accused foreign critics of using corruption allegations to influence the makeup of the new government.

"Such instructions have violated respect for Afghanistan's national sovereignty," the ministry said.

A NATO statement said the American service member was killed in an insurgent attack Saturday in western Afghanistan. The statement said the death was not part of the ongoing search operation for the two missing paratroopers but gave no further details.

Fierce fighting erupted during the search operation Friday, and NATO and Afghan forces are investigating whether a botched NATO airstrike was responsible for the death of seven Afghan soldiers and police and an Afghan interpreter during the rescue operation.

Seventeen Afghan troops, including soldiers and police, five American soldiers and another Afghan interpreter were wounded, NATO has said.

One British soldier was killed Saturday and another Sunday in explosions in the southern province of Helmand, the Defense Ministry announced. Britain is the largest contributor to NATO forces in Afghanistan after the United States with about 9,000 troops in the country and 500 more committed by the government last month.

The latest deaths brought the total number of British service members who have died in Afghanistan to 232 — including 201 due to hostile fire.

The head of Britain's armed forces, Air Chief Marshal Jock Stirrup, acknowledged Sunday that the British public is not convinced that the NATO coalition can succeed in Afghanistan.

In the east of the country, militants twice attacked a fuel supply convoy as it traveled along a main supply route between Pakistan and the Afghan capital of Kabul. Police said at least two private security guards and a policeman were wounded in the attacks.

The convoy first came under fire near the city of Jalalabad, during which two fuel tankers were set on fire and three other trucks were damaged, provincial police spokesman Ghafor Khan said. Two security guards were wounded.

Afghan police later joined the convoy to escort the remaining vehicles to Kabul. But the vehicles came under attack again in the neighboring province of Laghman, leaving one policeman wounded and damaging three other trucks, said deputy provincial police chief Naqibullah Hotak.

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Associated Press writers Rahim Faiez, Elena Becatoros and Deb Riechmann contributed to this report.

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The Confessor

The first round was marred by massive fraud.

Read Karzai lost.

    Reply#1 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 7:01 AM EST
    1standlastword

    Karzai is to Bush as Abdullah is to Gore

    • 1 vote
    #1.1 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 7:39 AM EST
    Eric AlbertDeleted
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    BelindaK

    So, who didn't know this would happen? I think Abdullah was threatened into dropping out. Karzai is a crook so Afghanistan is screwed once again. And the Taliban threatening to kill anyone who showed up to vote? - The Taliban needs to be blown off the face of the earth.

      Reply#2 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 8:43 AM EST
      Gelbkreuz

      What did he really "win?" I mean, really.

      He officially won control over something he has officially lost control over.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#3 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 10:45 AM EST
      Jain

      Real democracy is an alien concept to the Afghan people. They would rather follow a divinely inspired leader. ( a theocracy). Democracy will not flourish everywhere. We have to acknowledge this truth and move on and stop trying to impose this form of government on people who are clearly not ready for it.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#4 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 10:58 AM EST
      OBAMA-FAN

      Jain,

      Real democracy is an alien concept to the Afghan people. They would rather follow a divinely inspired leader.

      I think this is a rather general statement that does not apply to all or most Afghan citizens. If you already have a fraudulent government in place it's that much harder to turn it into a fair-minded government of the people. I don't think the Afghan citizens should stop attempting to have a democratic government, but I do agree it's not our place to spread democracy throughout the world. The U.S. shouldn't care what type of government they have as long as they do not condone the actions and theology of the terrorist regimes that exists in their country!

      • 1 vote
      #4.1 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 11:06 AM EST
      BelindaK

      I think that is an interesting question - Do the Afghans really want democracy? If they don't, what the hell are we doing, what right do we have to force it on them? If they do, is it our place to make that happen? I don't personally get the sense that democracy is terribly important to them.

      • 1 vote
      #4.2 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 11:22 AM EST
      Gelbkreuz

      They are tribal and don't care much for a strong central government. There a some good expressions that sum things up over there.

      "You can rent an Afghan, but you can never buy one."

      "When an Afghan builds a house he first builds a wall. When the wall is complete he starts building the house." - Michael Yon.

      • 1 vote
      #4.3 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 11:28 AM EST
      OBAMA-FAN

      gelbkreuz,

      Your comment lacks any factual basis! Many Afghans went to the polls to vote even though their lives have been threatened, and some were killed. The went in the face of fraud, knowing that their vote would probably not even matter do to the corruption of the government!

      Afghan government officials reported that 73 incidents of violence had taken place in 15 provinces throughout the country during voting. That number of attacks represented a 50% spike over NATO figures for the violence in the days leading up to the poll.[8][30][94]

      The Afghan government also reported that at least 26 people were killed in the election day violence, including eight Afghan soldiers, nine police officers and nine civilians.

      Americans complain about having to get to the polls to early, or getting home late after voting! What if the odds of you coming home from voting were 50-50??? Now you tell me! How quick would you me running to the polls if this was waiting for you!

      • 1 vote
      #4.4 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 11:48 AM EST
      BelindaK

      Obama-Fan - You make an excellent point. I didn't think of it that way, but that would certainly be indicative of their desire for a democracy. And, lucky for us, we can't imagine the thought of paying for our vote with our life. Your comment really gave me some food for thought. Thanks.

      • 1 vote
      #4.5 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 11:57 AM EST
      OBAMA-FAN

      Thanks Belinda.

      • 1 vote
      #4.6 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 12:05 PM EST
      Gelbkreuz

      OBAMA-FAN, I agree with you, and I followed their election too. I shouldn't have said "don't care much" regarding a strong government. I should have said, "not since the Mongols invaded" did they have one.

      • 1 vote
      #4.7 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 12:12 PM EST
      Jain

      Many Afghans went to the polls to vote even though their lives have been threatened, and some were killed. The went in the face of fraud, knowing that their vote would probably not even matter do to the corruption of the government!

      This is going to sound absurd, but I dont believe the Afghans went to the polls because of their intense desire to co-operate in the democratic process. They went precisely because the Taliban asked them to boycott the elections. It was an act of bravado and defiance and nothing more. You have to understand the Afghan psyche. They are unimaginably proud and defiant people. They will give up their very lives just to prove a point. They will not sustain any loyalty to a democratically elected government nor to the Taliban unless governed by force and fear. And that is precisely how the Taliban will govern Afghanistan.

      • 2 votes
      #4.8 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 12:44 PM EST
      OBAMA-FAN

      Jain,

      They went precisely because the Taliban asked them to boycott the elections.

      I think you are confused. When I said they went to the polls I was talking about those who voted. The Taliban didn't want the election to tack place and are not the type to "Boycott". The Taliban threatens and kills their opposition. So here is the question, if the Taliban asked them to "Boycott" the election how do you explain the millions who actually voted, in direct defiance to the Taliban? "Boycott" is a word used by the author of the article you read.

      This was regarding the run-off.

      In their latest threat the Taliban says they are committed to defeating the electoral process and anyone participating must take the risk of being hurt.

      This was regarding the general election in August.

      LOY KAREZ, Afghanistan —The notes appear at night, border police say, dropped off around town, always with the same ominous message: Don’t vote or we’ll slit your throat.

      Even if the Taliban don’t make good on those threats, such warnings alone could be enough to keep many Afghans at home on the Aug. 20 election. U.S. troops moving into remote areas are hoping to bolster public confidence that it will be safe to vote.

      Amidst deadly bombings, rocket attacks and threats of violence against voters, Afghanistan's national elections took place on Aug. 20. While hazardous conditions likely suppressed at least part of the women's vote, the good news is that two women ran for president, five sought the vice presidency, and some 300 women ran for election to provincial councils.

      The Taliban has threatened to attack Afghan voting stations, escalating its bid to derail imminent polls despite deadly government operations against rebels.

      In the final campaign countdown, President Hamid Karzai took part in his first live television debate with two of his main rivals on Sunday, promising to restore security after a daring Taliban attack targeted NATO forces.

      The Taliban threat was made in leaflets posted on walls and dropped in villages in the south, and authenticated by a spokesman who said the militia would accelerate its bloody campaign of violence on the eve of the elections.

      Afghanistan's 17 million voters will go to the polls on Thursday to elect a president for the second time in history, as well as 420 councillors in 34 provinces in a massive operation clouded by insecurity and logistics headaches.

      Seems a bit more serious than a "Boycott". It also seems as though you would really want something if you knew you could die trying to obtain it, especially given the track record of the Taliban! None of these voters were saying "Oh the Taliban is just kidding. They never actually kill people!"

      • 1 vote
      #4.9 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 2:40 PM EST
      David-1303729

      As an Afghan citizen I would say you have some of very good information about Afghanistan, I would say if you want Afghanistan to become a Democratic government you need to listen to Afghan people. allot of people do not like the Taliban but they don't believe your powerful than them and you will be able to defeat them. you need to either prove that you are powerful or let them decide what they want.

      • 1 vote
      #4.10 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 4:33 PM EST
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      lilian101

      Peter Galbraith, who was sacked as the deputy head of the UN mission in Afghanistan after alleging a cover-up of election fraud last month, said there was no doubt that the Karzai was running another massive fraud for the run-off polls against the former foreign minister.

      "It's a sure thing," Galbraith said. "It is beyond blatant. This is in your face.

      Karzai organising run-off poll rigging: ex-UN official. 2009 PTI. Retrieved Nov 2 2009 from http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_karzai-organising-run-off-poll-rigging-ex-un-official_1305783

        Reply#5 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 1:06 PM EST
        rz-547309

        The Taliban will end up killing Karzai just as they did Ahmed Shah Massood.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#6 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 1:56 PM EST
        David-1303729

        As an Afghan citizen i have the following to say!

        Election does not mean any important thing for normal Afghan people because most of people think whoever America wants will be announced the president.

        the feuture of Afghanistan seems more troublesome for me personally.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#7 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 4:20 PM EST
        Jain

        the feuture of Afghanistan seems more troublesome for me personally

        David, My advise to you; Get the hell out of Afghanistan and take your family with you. The fate of some countries, just like that of some people is destined to be hell on earth.

          #7.1 - Tue Nov 3, 2009 2:08 PM EST
          BelindaK

          David - I pray for the safety of you and your family. Good luck to you.

          • 1 vote
          #7.2 - Tue Nov 3, 2009 2:49 PM EST
          David-1303729

          Jain

          David, My advise to you; Get the hell out of Afghanistan and take your family with you. The fate of some countries, just like that of some people is destined to be hell on earth.

          I am thinking the same way but unfortunately The U.S and EU are considering all Afghans the same, and there is no legal way for people like me to come to either U.S or EU I don't know what is gonna happen to me and my family.

          BelindaK

          David - I pray for the safety of you and your family. Good luck to you.

          God Bless you too and thanks for your thoughts about me.

            #7.3 - Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:09 PM EST
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            BZe1

            Change can only take place when the people of the country demands it and are willing to fight for that change themselves imo.

            If the Afghan people are not willing to fight their oppressors for their own freedom then why is some other country (USA) trying to fight their supposed oppressors for them? It is like the battered wife who stays with her batterer and will even make excuses for his behaviour towards her, until something happens that forces her to realize that she is in peril or she has had enough and do something about her abuser/abuse.

            You cannot make/force adults (or even children these days) to do what they do not want to do imo. If the Afghanis wanted to expel their oppressors they would have do so long ago as they know their country, terrain, politics, connections etc and know what to do and how to do it imo. They surely wore the Russians down after so many years and billions of dollars and many Russian soldiers lives lost.

            People grow and develop at their own rate and in their own way thus the Afghanis will expel those that they feel need to go when they are ready to/for change imo. For example the Iranian people, this year, have shown that they will effect change in their own country and in their own way and at their own pace and without help from outside.

            The only thing that is going on is billions of dollars and American lives are being lost for nothing, in an attempt to change the circumstances (financial,educational, etc) of a people who do not appear to want same. Perhaps you may be able to bring them into say the 15th or if one is lucky into the 19th century at best. They are an old society and in many areas are probably still living a BC (Before Christ) lifestyle, thus I doubt they are ready for the 20th much less the 21st century. Leave them alone, and bring the soldiers home.

            This is not about winning or losing a war or conflict by the USA or/and its allies. Unless all the countries in the world are ready to get together to control terrorism through out the world this war on terrorism is a waste of time, human resources and money, because from the various reports, experts etc it seems that every country seem to have their own homegrown attention seeking vicious malcontents (groups) who want to bend others to their will through violence for their own questionable reason anyway.

            There are enough problems in this country that needs addressing and solutions. Our problems at home need fixing first, before this country decends into becoming the first Third World country of all the First World countries.

            I wonder if the financial meltdown could be viewed as an act of terrorism on the people of this country by the financial folks? Hmm LOL How about the bonuses they intended to pay themselves while many ordinary folks are either losing their retirement savings, jobs, homes, healthcare, etc and shareholders losing dividends and say in the companies compensation packages of the management teams. Hmmmm LOL

              Reply#8 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 9:28 PM EST
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