Turkey: Indicted Sudan leader won't attend summit

Sun Nov 8, 2009 10:40 AM EST
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ISTANBUL — Turkey said Sunday that Sudan's internationally indicted leader, President Omar al-Bashir, will not attend a conference of Muslim nations in Istanbul.

Turkey had faced criticism for its planned welcome of al-Bashir, who is the first government leader to face international war-crimes charges.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan had said al-Bashir would be welcome at Monday's Istanbul summit of the 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference. Erdogan also downplayed accusations that al-Bashir and his regime orchestrated the slaughter, rape and mass expulsion of African natives in Darfur.

But the Turkish government said Sunday night it had been informed that al-Bashir would not attend the summit.

"We have received information that the Sudanese president will not attend the IOC (Organization of the Islamic Conference) meeting," a senior government official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity in line with government policy.

Turkey does not recognize the authority of the International Criminal Court, the Hague, Netherlands-based body that in March issued an arrest warrant for al-Bashir.

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Bob Jones-1211422

Although not indited I am sure Bush would be allowed in Europe. Why not this guy in Turkey?

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Reply#1 - Sun Nov 8, 2009 11:15 AM EST
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Squidward

But the big difference is Bashir was actually indicted. Turkey shouldn't be giving a warm invitation to a war criminal.

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#1.1 - Sun Nov 8, 2009 5:17 PM EST
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Dennis P. McCann

Alleged war criminal, which is the technicality that got him an invitation in the first place.

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#1.2 - Sun Nov 8, 2009 5:33 PM EST
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Squidward

I guess it technically is alleged, but if you take a look at the evidence against him, you'll understand why I omit the alleged part.

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#1.3 - Sun Nov 8, 2009 6:54 PM EST
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krishna-167929
Alleged war criminal, which is the technicality that got him an invitation in the first place.

Nice try Dennis-- but no cigar.

Anyone who's informed knows about the horrors of the genocide in Darfur-- and who's behind it. Erdogan's position is shameful.

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#1.4 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:10 AM EST
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Dennis P. McCann

Includıng me krishna. I know he's guilty as hell. Everyone knows that.

But Turkey, like America, operates under the rule of law, and until he's convicted it's an allegation - nothing more.

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#1.5 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:03 AM EST
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krishna-167929

Includıng me krishna. I know he's guilty as hell. Everyone knows that.

But Turkey, like America, operates under the rule of law, and until he's convicted it's an allegation - nothing more.

That would be a good argument- if he was on trial in Turkey-- then he should not be considered proven guilty 'till determined by a court of law. But he's not on trial in Turkey.

So-- what Erdogan did was invite a war criminal-- I think most everyone knows he is. Erdogan's actions give the guya type of recognition.

Would it have been OK if some nation invoted Hitler-- Pol Pot-- Milosevic-- Ahmadienjad-- Kim Jung Ill-- any other barbaric leader-- if it was still only alledged he was guilty-- and hadn't yet been declared so by the rule of law?

A bad move on Erdogan's part-- although certainly in character for him.

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#1.6 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:36 PM EST
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Dennis P. McCann
But he's not on trial in Turkey.

Irrelevant.

He hasn't been convicted anywhere. He's not a war criminal in a legal sense. Not yet.

A bad move on Erdogan's part-- although certainly in character for him.

In your fervor to bash Erdogan and Turkey, you're making no sense.

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#1.7 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:04 PM EST
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krishna-167929

But he's not on trial in Turkey.

Irrelevant.

He hasn't been convicted anywhere. He's not a war criminal in a legal sense. Not yet.

A bad move on Erdogan's part-- although certainly in character for him.

In your fervor to bash Erdogan and Turkey, you're making no sense.

Bash Erdogan? Yup-- for good reason.Inviting a bastard like Bashir is an indication of the sort of character Erdogan is...

But not Turkey-- heck, if he continues in the direction he's moving, the Turks will be the main ones to suffer.

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#1.8 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:49 PM EST
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Dennis P. McCann

So now you're abandoning the argument that he's a war criminal because you know I'm right - he's been indicted, but not yet convicted...and you've resorted to calling Erdogan a bastard for inviting him anyway.

There are laws that govern international relations. Erdogan followed those laws.

But hey, maybe next time they have some sort of conference here they'll consult with you first.

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#1.9 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:56 PM EST
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krishna-167929
So now you're abandoning the argument that he's a war criminal because you know I'm right

Well-- OK.

Maybe you are right :-)

Maybe inviting Bashir was right thing to do-- in which case-- you win this argument!

(detracking)

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#1.10 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:12 PM EST
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Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan had said al-Bashir would be welcome at Monday's Istanbul summit of the 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference. Erdogan also downplayed accusations that al-Bashir and his regime orchestrated the slaughter, rape and mass expulsion of African natives in Darfur.
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Reply#2 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:06 AM EST
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