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Hey, Tiger Woods: Why so dumb about tech?

Thu Dec 3, 2009 8:59 AM EST
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msnbc.com News — Helen A.S. Popkin, msnbc.com - Only on msnbc.com

CHARLOTTE, NC - APRIL 29: Tiger Woods chats on a mobile phone during the Pro-Am prior to the start of the Quail Hollow Championship at the Quail Hollow Club on April 29, 2009 in Charlotte, North Carolina. (Photo by Scott Halleran/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Tiger Woods

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— Not since Prince Charles of Wales told then-mistress Camilla Parker-Bowles of his desire to be her feminine hygiene product has an adulterous celebrity been so humiliated by a telephone communiqué. We’re talking about Tiger Woods here, and the voice mail message he left to an alleged mistress, released earlier this week by Us Weekly. In review:

One might argue that a British Royal erotically name-checking Tampax while engaging in illicit love talk with a wife that isn’t his is a far more crippling crime than Woods asking … er, pretty much begging … some woman to erase her identity from her own cellular device.

But, dude! Let’s consider the facts. Prince Charles — though never the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree — was busted back in 1993, when a tabloid published a transcript of the conversation. It was the comparative Stone Age of technological awareness, not to mention the fact that Charles was engaging in a one-on-one conversation for which he had every expectation of privacy. Here in the technologically savvy future, celebrities are apparently just stupid.

Woods failed to take even the most basic precautions with his digital behavior. Not that Dude should have run down to RadioShack (or “The Shack,” as it now prefers) and get a Darth Vader voice changer. Just maybe not begin with “It’s Tiger” in a message that for all intents and purposes, might as well continue, “Hey, lady I had the sex with,” include his Social Security number, a camphone image of his driver’s license and a plug for his latest product endorsement.

Woods, our most recent example of the electronically naïve and famous, has been a celebrity long enough to understand the advanced tools available to the gossip machine. This rock star of the golf kingdom obviously knows enough about cell phones to leave a recorded message. Woods has a family and 80 kajillion million bucks on endorsement deals to lose, yet he still willingly and purposely left an incriminating voice mail on some woman’s cell phone … along with 300-plus sexy text messages, according to the woman on the other end.

Yet Woods is not a lone star in his Luddite status. Athletes, entertainers and, of course, politicians are all amazingly ignorant when it comes to the day-to-day digital activities most everyone takes for granted. Yes, yes, you don’t have to be well-known to be technologically sloppy. From cell phones to Twitter, there are plenty of busted spouses and Facebook fired among us plebes to prove it. But unlike us, celebrities and politicians know they’re being watched. And still they fail to budget! (Anyone up for a “hike” on the “Appalachian Trail,” per se?)

Now if you’re, say, Britney Spears or maybe Fox News, odds are some puckish geek out there is going to go after your Twitter account and start broadcasting information about how you, say, worship the devil or that one of your TV hosts, say Bill O’Reilly (the guy who left that sexy “loofah” voice mail), is a homosexual — as recently happened to these two entities, respectively. Not much you can do about that other than remain vigilant so you can run damage control.

Same goes for Paris Hilton’s Sidekick, from which some clever code monkey purloined both the address book and images and posted them on the Web back in 2005 during the height of her “Simple Life” fame. Except maybe if you’ve already had your homemade porn tape released against your will, you’d want to be more careful about the images you record following that learning moment. Not so much for Hilton, whose hacked images revealed a bounty of nudie camphone shots ... not that Paris was much worse for wear. 

But pity (and I mean that sort of sarcastically) poor Miley Cyrus, forced to abandon her 2 million Twitter followers a few months ago for reasons she poignantly described in her DIY “hip-hop” video posted on YouTube. “Everything that I type and everything that I do, all those lame gossip sites take it and make it news,” the “Hannah Montana” star “rapped.” (Either that, or because her boyfriend told her to.)

Who knew those “lame gossip sites” would go and do that? (See above parenthetical re: sarcasm.) Maybe her failed country star dad, Billy Ray Cyrus, who continued to fail at parenting by begging his daughter to return to “tweeting about pimples” and “living for people,” as she rapped, on the microblogging site ASAP.

As Dad posted: “You can’t leave everyone now. We r countin on u.”

Careful, Miley! Papa Cyrus seems well on his way to be replaying family phone calls for the masses, like that sassy Michael Lohan, before Lindsay and the rest of the clan seemed to figure out it was best not to talk to the former family patriarch before doing a full-on bug sweep. No doubt that’s why he resorted to recording and releasing conversations with everyone’s favorite man in midlife crisis, Jon Gosselin, who’s been famous long enough to know (or not know) better.

Speaking of famous fathers and their misuse of recording conversations, it’s one thing to have a full-on, massive freakout bordering on abusive to your almost-teenage daughter, but when you’re a movie star on a hit NBC show, embroiled in a “War of the Roses”-style divorce with Kim Basinger, you think you’d find the self-control to not leave it as a message on that daughter’s cell phone, Alec Baldwin.

It seems celebrity dads should take special note when it comes to technology turned against them by the children they sired. Obviously David Hasselhoff was in no condition to pick up the video camera his daughter focused on him during one particularly unattractive alcohol-and-Wendy’s fueled binge.

Oh, we could go on and on all day about entertainers soiling themselves on Twitter, politicians incriminating themselves in e-mails, that one time Michael Phelps smoked dope with a camcorder in his face, and all the icky celebrity sex tapes — stills from which TMZ is destined to inflict on us someday soon. But there’s a lesson to be had here, both for those in the spotlight and out. And that lesson comes from none other than ubiquitous Twitterer John Mayer himself.

Want to avoid technological humiliation? Just live like every second of your life is being recorded for public consumption. For example, if John Mayer gets in Twitter trouble blathering about whatever lady he’s about to dump or some other overly confident 140 characters or less, he just thinks it’s cool and ironic and poses in a Borat man-kini or runs out and adds some more ink to his sleeve (I like to imagine).

If, like Tiger Woods, you continue to operate with the willful ignorance about how technology can cut you, it may become sentient and turn against you. Three hundred stupid text messages to your mistress too many, and the next thing you know, there are 3-D videos popping up in Taiwan reimaging the events on that fateful night. There you are all animated, your Sims™-style wife chasing you like a T-10000 Terminator, her liquid metal arm morphing into a golf club, while you flee, like Sarah Connor, in your ill-fated SUV.

Or maybe just don't cheat on your wife.

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Helen Popkin, kindly avail yourself of a dictionary/thesaurus. You wrote "...engaging in elicit love talk with a wife that isn’t his..." -- I think you meant ILLICIT (disapproved of or not permitted for moral or ethical reasons.) and not ELICIT (to arrive at (a truth, for example) by logic. ; to call forth, draw out, or provoke (a reaction, for example))

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST
P.C. Moblee

I don't think Tiger is any more or less tech-savvy than the next guy. A lot of us put stuff out there that we think will never see the light of day again, and every once in a while it takes something like this to remind us:

1) Although you hit 'delete', nothing is ever 'deleted';

2) Not everyone is your friend, and

3) It may have been funny at the time, but when it hits YouTube (or whatever), you're toast.

First it was videotape/audiotape, now it's text messaging, voice mail, Twitter, Facebook and yes, Newsvine...sign o' the times.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:13 AM EST
Joey Boy

The problem is what he did, not how well he handles a phone.

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 4:20 PM EST
deborah -909179

Tiger is an idiot. He has a wife and children. Everyone knows that the bimbo's that work the celebrity network video tape, record, and take still shots. They save it then publish it. Tiger you should have kept it zipped, (pants and mouth), Your wife and babies are the victims here. But she may be the one laughing all the way to the bank. You deserve to lose it all. Cheating on your wife is wrong. Making it public is stupid. If you are going to cheat don't go out with classless tramps that talk. Also don't record voice mails, text, or anything that can come back to bite you. Idiot.

    #1.3 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:03 PM EST
    Chris-537131

    I don't see lots of people with the kind of tech savvy that is needed to stay out of trouble.

    1) If you have a cell phone, and it is turned on, there is a permanent record of where the cell phone is located at all times. This is true if the cell phone doesn't claim "GPS" or is you have "Locator" turned off. It is a function of the cell towers keeping track of where you are so that you can be found when you have a phone call. If you are in ping range of one tower only, you are on a circle, if two towers you are in one of two specific locations, 3 or more they have you nailed within a few feet. This is popping up in divorce cases, traffic cases, and searches for missing people. They can be subpoenaed or requested by the police without a subpoena.

    2) All voice mails are kept forever. Patriot Act. They can be subpoenaed.

    3) All cell calls are recorded and kept forever. Patriot Act. They can be subpoenaed.

    4) Voice mail and even cell phones themselves are very easily hacked. In fact they are becoming the source of choice for hackers seeking to steal identities since so many people are ordering online with their phones and therefore storing credit card information on their phones.

      #1.4 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 11:32 AM EST
      Montanaman

      Or, he was referring to her voice mail and didn't want his wife asking, "Who is [enter name]"

      Or better yet - it's none of our business!

        #1.5 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 1:21 PM EST
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        mememe01Deleted
        Michele-366934

        Let's move on - this story is getting old and really isn't anyone's business.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#3 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:23 AM EST
        BJs65-634377

        Then why did you take the time to read the article and post a comment?

        • 3 votes
        #3.1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:01 PM EST
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        Peter Knight-1499704

        Leaving the message wasn't the ignorant part. Asking her to remover her name from her phone was.

        Her name is coming up because it's in his contacts on his phone. LOL.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:24 AM EST
        Christy-896109

        now that's funny! Obviously we all aren't as savvy as we thought~~ (ok, most of us aren't)

        • 2 votes
        #4.1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:30 AM EST
        JLMYERS77777

        HAHAHA, I was thinking the same thing. He had to remove her name back to just the phone number from his list, NOT the other way around!

        • 1 vote
        #4.2 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:39 PM EST
        czbrucie

        I was wondering if I was the only one who thought of that. All the journalists seem to have overlooked that fact.

        • 1 vote
        #4.3 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:58 PM EST
        ChitownMatt

        No,

        He was asking her to remove her name from her voice mail message. So that when his wife saw the number on his phone of bill and called it, she wouldn't get a name.

        As in, "Hi this is Slutty-Jen at 555-1234, I can't get to the phone right now, please leave a message."

        To just, "You've reached 555-1234. I can't get to the phone right now, please leave a message."

        • 1 vote
        #4.4 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 2:17 PM EST
        P.C. Moblee

        So that when his wife saw the number on his phone of bill and called it, she wouldn't get a name.

        LOL, I don't think that even Tiger ever sees his own phone bill on a regular basis

        • 1 vote
        #4.5 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 3:26 PM EST
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        John-398676

        And let's never forget when the elder George Bush was running for President. He was being given a tour of a supermarket and was shown the laser scanner at the checkout stand. He was astounded at the technology, and remarked thet it should be installed in every store in the entire nation! (they already were). Obviously, the rich folks pay others to deal with reality so they don't have to.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#5 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:35 AM EST
        Montanaman

        And let's never forget that regardless of the article, there is always going to be some idiot that turns it political.

        • 1 vote
        #5.1 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 1:23 PM EST
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        gigi1968-1108124

        Helen, do us all a favor and either find a new job or go back to journalism school. If I hadn't seen a name on it, I'd assume it was written by an overweight male sportscaster. Show some class, please.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#6 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:35 AM EST
        annie-1484811

        Helen, I think it was funny and sad, but true. Loved it except for the aforementioned "illicit". I love watching Tiger play golf, but am amazed at his awful and stupid behavior. Maybe he should have graduated from Stanford!

        • 1 vote
        #6.1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:34 PM EST
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        zaglossus

        Another dumb article by a technophile who thinks if you're not a technophile you're somehow dumb. I didn't know cellphone or twitter know-how is now a criteria of intelligence. Actually even writing about Tiger, as if somehow he's in a position of public trust, is dumb.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#7 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:43 AM EST
        UnConvinced

        Someone on here quoted the book of John, chapter 8, wherein Christ is quoted as saying to the men who'd brought a woman before him accused of adultery to be stoned. In the chapter Christ looks to the men and says to them plainly that whomever amongst them that was without sin could be first to carry out the punishment. Needless to say the woman wasn't stoned because the men who brought her before him realized that they were all hypocrites, and walked away - and that was the whole point.

        You take one look at all the people on these blogs and the writers for the news organizations, they're all bringing this man before the public and saying, in effect, "stone him, for he is an adulterer".

        Well I say no, and furthermore let the first journalist, or the first golfer, or the first anyone who dares to ridicule and chastise this man openly in public because of his alleged affair, let them open up their lives for public inspection. Let them put their personal lives under the microscope and prove themselves pure enough to openly condemn this man for his alleged acts.

        But that won't happen, because in a nation that prides itself on being majority Christian, there isn't a single inhabitant, not one, who's life would be of admiration to the very savior that they all profess to love so much, and who's teaching they hold in such high esteem as to actually live their lives by them.

        Nope, not one. But now is not the time for such trivialities. For there is a man to be stoned, and after all, the economy's not what it used to be, and some of us honestly need the work.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#8 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:44 AM EST
        freakyberkeley

        I think the last line of the article hit the nail on the head. Woods does not have a problem with technology; he has a problem with selfishness, infidelity, and, well, common sense. (Also, apparently, driving).

        • 4 votes
        Reply#9 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:51 AM EST
        Positive Me

        Sex rehab, anyone?

        • 2 votes
        #9.1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:13 PM EST
        mel2877

        He did mess up that SUV. I am surprised there was so much damage at what had to be a fairly low speed (under 40mph?).

        • 1 vote
        #9.2 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 6:49 PM EST
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        henri1626

        Loved this article. I'm like you, I don't understand how someone in the public eye thinks they can get away with stupid behavior. If everyone knows who you are, how can you not get caught when you're misbehaving. I heard one celebrity say, when their sex tape got out, that everybody has one. No, everybody does not have a sex tape. Smart people do not tape themselves having sex. I guess it's mainly people who just can't get enough of looking at themselves who do it. If you don't want to get caught and embarrassed, don't behave in a way that is sure to do that. Some people, seems like fewer and fewer these days, actually have morals and don't cheat on their spouses. If you live a decent life and don't act like an idiot, then you don't have anything to worry about. Look at Tom Hanks, for example. As far as we know, the man doesn't go around being stupid. He has his family and his work and he doesn't need all that ridiculous stuff going on that most celebrities seem to crave. Maybe it comes down to self-worth and what kind of values you have and how much you love your family.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#10 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:51 AM EST
        CP-697866

        I think this story should just go away. It is nobody's business except for Tiger's and his wife's (and the other women involved), I guess. But from my perspective, his wife is the injured party here and the one being humiliated by the dissection of Tiger's alleged affairs. He really isn't going to be hurt by this all that much, but I would wager, she will never get over it. It is bad enough that your husband cheated, but for the whole world to know - - that is a bit much for anyone to take. Leave them alone to deal with this incredibly personal and private matter to either heal or go their separate ways. But, also remember there are children involved and nobody, not even professed "Christians", are perfect.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#11 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 11:53 AM EST
        RDH

        It becomes a public matter if spousal abuse was involved. This point remains unclear. Your comment that "his wife is the injured party here" I find to be sexist. She wasn't the one taken to the hospital. People seem to be jumping on the bandwagon of bashing Mr Woods -this is the story the media is spoon feeding to boost the ratings- but one has to ask, what is worse, infidelity or spousal abuse? If she hit him she's a criminal -undeserving of respect or sympathy.

          #11.1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:27 PM EST
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          Bill, FL

          Helen A.S. Popkin - All you had to say was, "Anything done on the internet and telephone can be traced." 10 words as opposed to all that twattle you just said.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#12 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:05 PM EST
          mrdearnaley

          Why is this news agency trying it's best NOT to cover the unfolding CLIMATEGATE story? This IS news worthy and it is this news agency's duty to deliver to us the news that affects our lives. I would think that the fact that global warming may be a fraud is actually GOOD news. I don't want global warming. You don't want global warming. This is a great 'feel good' story. My grand kids will have a chance after all. Climategate is great news for all of us, so why avoid reporting the story? If Tiger Woods' love life is fit for front page so is climategate........unless of course it is not part of the news agency's agenda!

          • 1 vote
          Reply#13 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:21 PM EST
          veh-1027773

          Well, as we say in Detroit....Kwame a river. Perfect example of texting while stupid.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#14 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:29 PM EST
          Geodude

          Sorry, I read it as he is asking her to change the message on her voicemail to the default. You know the one where a computer reads off the number instead of recording a personal message. It makes sense, when his wife calls she will hear a computer message instead of a female's voice. Which makes the entire "hook" of this article wrong.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#15 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:34 PM EST
          Josh-1499815

          he was asking her to update her voicemail message so that it didn't announce her name.....ie, "Hi, This is Jane."..........to "Hi, you have reached 999-999-9999"

          who's so dumb here?

          • 1 vote
          Reply#16 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:40 PM EST
          Ryan Brubaker

          Agree, this is how I read it. I think the author completely missed this plausible explanation. Now, him leaving a voicemail in the first place isn't that smart, but neither is getting into these affairs in the first place.

            #16.1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:13 PM EST
            Peter Knight-1499704

            "If you can, please take your name off that and, um, and what do you call it just have it as a number on the voice mail"

            It sounded like he was asking both to remove her name from her phone and from her voicemail message.


              #16.2 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:53 PM EST
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              ash-258279

              I am sick to death of hearing about Tiger Woods. He's a golfer. He's not just another corrupt politician who has sold us out, for Pete's sake. Why the media and John Q Public are such bottom-feeders and scavengers of gossip that they feel they have a right to know every blasted thing about a person's personal life and then pass both hypocritcal and sanctimonious judgement utterly escapes me.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#17 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:12 PM EST
              whatashame-659313

              ever wonder why his golf game turned to sh...--STRESS-- couldn't concentrate on the game because of all the underlying agenda--"what if I'm found out...", "hope my wife doesn't get wind that I'm messing around..." "who am I going to be with tonight...." and on it goes--just saying

              took a while, but the "truth"outed itself--it always does; "there's no place to hide..."; sit on the moon a few hours and you see the whole world pass beneath you; open your mind and eyes and you can't miss it

              • 1 vote
              Reply#18 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:16 PM EST
              mel2877

              I think he was sleeping around so much he didn't have time to play golf anymore.

                #18.1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 6:54 PM EST
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                Johnny Kettle

                The smaller the person, the more they love this story - it makes them feel better about themselves.

                Who'd thunk it, Tiger Woods, psychologist.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#19 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:19 PM EST
                Solver1

                With his bucks, he could have just bought her a prepaid phone with no VM on it. That way if his wife ever saw the number in his phone log it would 1) not have a name associated with it, and 2) if she called the number it would be a generic box, again with no name on it.

                And Tiger should call her, hang up and call her again right away so she knows it's him and not his wife with his phone!

                And never, ever leave each other VM or texts. Geez, people.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#20 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:22 PM EST
                Chris-1499876

                You'd think after Monica Lewinsky he'd learn. Sometime women save texts/vm just in case.

                Someone needs to invent the iPhone (or Android) app that will allow text messages sent between similar devices to be deleted and irretrievable after 24 hours.

                  Reply#21 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:25 PM EST
                  Chris-537131

                  The messages, voice mails, texts, and location information are not stored on the phone. They are stored on servers far, far away. The Patriot Act required that most of this information be backed up and archived forever (to fight terrorism) but it is popping up in divorce cases, traffic cases, and searches for missing people.

                    #21.1 - Fri Dec 4, 2009 11:35 AM EST
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                    Solver1

                    Ooooh, I got it! They both should have gotten prepaid phones with no VM on them, and only agree to call each other during certain hours, like 9-10pm, and never, ever leave VM or texts.

                    That way, if his wife ever found the phone, she would only see numbers, no messages.

                      Reply#23 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:37 PM EST
                      RB-Chicago

                      Will Helen A.S. Popkin please go away.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#24 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:46 PM EST
                      SJ-661559Deleted
                      fight for YOUR right

                      Who Cheetah?

                      I hear that's his new nickname!

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#26 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 1:48 PM EST
                      Ben-182373

                      Um, uh, um, uh, can you, um, uh......Sounds like the guy in the Oval Office.

                        Reply#27 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 2:03 PM EST
                        Paulita

                        Yeah b/c the previous guy in the Oval Office couldn't even utter anything remotely sounding like an English word. More like ignorant grunts.

                        • 1 vote
                        #27.1 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 3:59 PM EST
                        Ben-182373

                        It helps to have a teleprompter so you can repeat every word the prompter tells you. You saw what happens when the prompter malfunctioned a couple of times. The man was totally lost.

                          #27.2 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 4:05 PM EST
                          mel2877

                          Bush couldn't even read from the prompter without making up his own words. I always pictured his speech writer sitting in a corner watching Bush read his speech and holding his head in his hands moaning in pain as Bush massacred his speech.

                          • 1 vote
                          #27.3 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 6:44 PM EST
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                          C.W.

                          Helen,

                          Try hard to not define yourself by how well you or anyone else uses a phone.

                          I know that's difficult these days, but keep trying. Not everyone is so high-maintenance.

                            Reply#28 - Thu Dec 3, 2009 2:32 PM EST
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