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Sarah Palin assails Obama at 'tea party' gathering

Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:54 AM EST
politics, us, barack-obama, people, palin
Liz Sidoti, AP Political Editor
Former Alaska Govenor Sarah Palin says the nation shouldn't be afraid to turn to God for some of the answers.
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<p>Bill Bruss of Winfield, Ill., gives away plastic bags in the vendor area at the National Tea Party convention in Nashville, Friday, Feb. 5, 2010.  (AP Photo/Ed Reinke)</p>

Bill Bruss of Winfield, Ill., gives away plastic bags in the vendor area at the National Tea Party convention in Nashville, Friday, Feb. 5, 2010. (AP Photo/Ed Reinke)

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NASHVILLE — Sarah Palin, in a speech that was short on ideas but big on enthusiasm, took aim at President Barack Obama and the Democrats, telling a gathering of "tea party" activists that America is ripe for another revolution.

Noting his party's dismal showing in elections since Obama moved into the White House a year ago with talk of hope and promises of change, Palin asked the gathering: "How's that hope-y, change-y stuff workin' out for you?"

Her audience waved flags and erupted in cheers during multiple standing ovations as the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee gave the keynote address Saturday at the first national convention of the "tea party" coalition. It's an antiestablishment, grass-roots network motivated by anger over the growth of government, budget-busting spending and Obama's policies.

Palin's 45-minute talk was filled with her trademark folksy jokes and amounted to a pep talk for the coalition and promotion of its principles.

The speech also was rife with criticism for Obama and the Democrats who control Congress, but delivered with a light touch. Aside from broad conservative principles like lower taxes and a strong national defense, the speech was short on Palin's own policy ideas that typically indicate someone is seriously laying the groundwork to run for the White House.

Indeed, Republican observers say she's seemingly done more lately to establish herself as a political celebrity focused on publicity rather than a political candidate focused on policy.

Catering to her crowd, Palin talked of limited government, strict adherence to the Constitution, and the "God-given right" of freedom. She said the "fresh, young and fragile" movement is the future of American politics because it's "a ground-up call to action" to both major political parties to change how they do business.

"America is ready for another revolution!" she told the gathering.

Palin suggested the movement should remain leaderless and cautioned against allowing it to be defined by any one person.

"Let us not get bogged down in the small squabbles. Let us get caught up in the big ideas," she said, though she offered few of her own.

The former Alaska governor, who resigned from office last summer before completing her first term, didn't indicate whether her political future would extend beyond cable news punditry and paid speeches to an actual presidential candidacy.

All she offered was a smile when a moderator asking her questions used the phrase "President Palin." That prompted most in the audience to stand up and chant "Run, Sarah, Run!"

But, given the plethora of attacks that Palin leveled at Obama, she seemed like she was already running against him. And, perhaps, as an independent.

She talked little about the Republican Party and encouraged "tea party"-aligned candidates to compete in GOP primaries.

Palin ribbed Obama for Democratic losses in New Jersey and Virginia governor's races last fall and in a Massachusetts Senate race last month, saying: "When you're 0-3 you'd better stop lecturing and start listening."

On foreign policy and national security, Palin said he had "misguided thinking" and a pre-Sept. 11 mindset.

Her fee was $100,000 for the appearance at the for-profit event.

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JoeW-283876

Palin is proof that modern American conservatism has devolved from a political philosophy into a mental illness.

  • 29 votes
#1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:46 AM EST
The Spirit

Mental illness? Let's let the professionals determine that, shall we?

It is EXACTLY that elitist attitude that is knocking off democrats like clay pigeons at a folksy shooting match.

Immutable Truths About Liberals #13. Liberals have an inflated sense of self-worth. They are like house flies that criticize the air-worthiness of a Stealth fighter. (Sarah Palin, George W. Bush, ad infinitum are morons.)

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:57 AM EST
Therese Nelson

I think to sign into law an Unsustainable, Jobless, UNREAD Trillion Dollar Stimulus and have a person like Napolitano head of Homeland Security who is clueless of what is working or not working for our country is not mentally stable, this woman did not attend the Security meeting. I think to push forward more Trillion dollar debt for government health care Debt is criminal negligiance.

Pelosi/Boxer from the Bankrupt State of California are clapping and jumping for MORE debt? How insane is that?

I think Palin is Right on the money.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:57 AM EST
midgebaker

I wonder if the word "sedition" is in her vocabulary? Nah, (snark) too many syllables.

  • 13 votes
#1.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:05 AM EST
Super Ultra

I was thinking the same thing. Seems like Palin and Tancredo enjoy inciting people to revolt.

  • 16 votes
#1.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:26 AM EST
CliffDogg

The under-educated and over-opinionated finally have a party all to themselves.

If by 'elitist' you mean educated, then I'd say yes, every party should have elitist members. I just wish William F Buckley Jr. was still around to help lead the conservative party. I disagreed with the guy, but at least he had and education and used logic. But then again, he wouldn't pass today's litmus test for being a true 'conservative.'

  • 18 votes
#1.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:53 AM EST
indytonyguy

I really like it when truth is elititism and fallacy is gobbled up by the "sheep" as fact. I am truly amazed that folks that follow Palin applaud a line like, "we win... they lose...", as a foreign policy. Palin never has any details and deep thoughts. This fits those that are way to lazy to think about the issues at hand. The "sheep" get lip service every 2 or 6 yrs. from their representatives. Hey Bush and Reagan lovers. What has your "conservative" senator or rep. done for you lately ? They enrich themselves and their friends all the while laughing at you as you cheer the Palins of the world.

  • 19 votes
#1.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:02 AM EST
Joe Radmacher

I feel sorry for Sara Palin and the people who follow her. She is not the brightest bulb on the street and either are her fans.

  • 13 votes
#1.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:04 AM EST
indytonyguy

That socialism seems to be working well for the people of Alaska. They all get a piece of the Alaskan oil wealth. The people of Alaska are great !! Their politicians are corrupt !!

The Alaska state constitution claims common heritage rights of ownership of oil and other minerals for the people of the state as a whole. Citizen dividend checks are distributed every year in Alaska out of the interest payments to an oil royalties deposit account called the Alaska Permanent Fund (APF) created in 1976 after oil was discovered on the North Slope. The APF is a public trust fund - a diversified stock, bond and real estate portfolio - into which are deposited the oil royalties received from the corporations which extract the oil from the lands of Alaska. The first citizen dividend check from the interest of the APF was issued in 1982 and was for $1000 per every person for everyone in Alaska who had resided in the state for at least one year. Annual citizen dividends have been issued every year since then, for a total of more than $23,000 per person.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4331035

We do know that due in large part to the citizen dividend payments combined with the happy consequences of no state income or sales taxes, Alaska is the only state in the United States where the wealth gap has decreased in the past decade. The citizen dividends from the APF are an important and significant source of income, especially for rural families maintaining more land based subsistence lifestyles.

Palin’s Alaska: Funded by Oil Profits Tax

If Sarah Palin gets past this press cycle and remains the Vice Presidential nominee on the GOP ticket, there might be one interesting item from her brief tenure as governor of Alaska that would be worthy of discussion on the national stage -- her state's windfall profit sharing from oil leases. It turns out that every person who has lived in Alaska for over a year gets a $3,200 payout from the government thanks to taxes on oil companies; a family as large as Palin's would receive over $22,000 a year.

No wonder she is popular with voters in a state whose residents pay no income or sales taxes but are blessed with state coffers rolling in cash at a time when all other states are suffering. Indeed, when the oil companies pay more taxes to the state of Alaska, they get to write that off against their federal tax obligation, leaving the rest of us to make up the shortfall.

But wouldn't it be -- I don't know -- communism to take money from the oil companies and give it to citizens? Not according to Governor Palin. When John McCain says that she "took on" the oil companies as governor, what he means is just that -- she raised taxes on oil companies.

sigh... Remember, truth = elitism. Democratic socialism seems to work well for Alaskans. Would Jesus be a capitalist or a socialist ? Hmmm.. Feed the hungry. Help the poor. Throw the money-changers out of the temple. Darn Bible !! :-)

  • 15 votes
#1.8 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:13 AM EST
Roy-933464

Immutable Truths About Liberals #13. Liberals have an inflated sense of self-worth. They are like house flies that criticize the air-worthiness of a Stealth fighter. (Sarah Palin, George W. Bush, ad infinitum are morons.)

Spirit, I used to only joke about right wing nuts being brainwashed...now I see it is worse than I thought. Immutable truths? Is there an immutable truth about any friggin' thing?

  • 13 votes
#1.9 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:40 AM EST
vol fan in chatt, tn

they get to write that off against their federal tax obligation, leaving the rest of us to make up the shortfall.

sounds like Ben Nelson's Corn husker deal, all for a vote. Were you as outraged then?

BTW, people's attempt on here to make others you disagree with look stupid, succeed in making people look stupid, alright, and petty, but not the ones you intend.

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:55 AM EST
redsfan

I am pretty horrified that during her speech, Palin seems to put forth as major policy..

it would be wise of us to start seeking some divine intervention again in this country, so that we can be safe and secure and prosperous again.

I have no problem with religion and a person's beliefs are certainly their right...but to state that only with "divine intervention" can we be "safe and secure and prosperous" seems to mean that if she was in charge, her chief domestic and foreign policy efforts would revolve around praying for "divine intervention". That seems pretty scary if she really believes it. And if she doesn't, well then is she just trying to get a positive reaction from the crowd?

  • 13 votes
#1.11 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:04 AM EST
SkepticalThomas

Here is a good example of mental illness. In fact you almost have to be mentally ill to take this guy seriously

I got a letter — I got a note today from one of my staff — they forwarded it to me — from a woman in St. Louis who had been part of our campaign, very active, who had passed away from breast cancer. And she had fought a tough battle for four years. All through the campaign she was fighting it, but finally she succumbed to it. And she insisted she's going to be buried in an Obama t-shirt."

BHO

  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:05 AM EST
madvargr

Spirit - I'll see your ad hominem based opion book and raise you an actual scientific study by psychologists on patholigy:

http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~hannahk/conservatism.html

The authors also peer into the psyche of President George Bush, who turns out to be a textbook case. The telltale signs are his preference for moral certainty and frequently expressed dislike of nuance.
"This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and stereotypes," the authors argue in the Psychological Bulletin.

It's apparent in the recent discourse on health care reform, how they continually adhere to misinformation and lies that don't even make sense. Even when confronted with the truth, they deny it. The same happens with subjects like the death penalty. They continually believe, ideas different from theirs are causing America to deteriorate, even though history shows us that the most Liberal period of our history was filled with growth and advancement and prosperity on a far larger scale than seen since that time.
Even those things can be explained as blind philosophical fantasy. What is disturbing, is they all state ideas and opinions that reflect resentment and anger toward others. A lot of the comments are even buttered over with a rancid garnishment of bitterness. Feelings related to a unnatural fear of loss of control seems to drip from almost every comment
This almost rises, at times, to a level of paranoia. Some of this becomes so strong it borders on the delusional.
Distaste and disdain for almost every racial minority leaks from even the most benign of comments. It appears, fear of loss translates most often into greed but the self-centeredness seems to boil from deep within. Even, when not directly stated, it's obvious in how their principles lack respect or care for those less fortunate than they.
And like most unbalances, they seem to be wholly unaware of their condition, even to the point of incessant denial.

Face it - Conservatives are just senile old men screaming at kids to get off thier lawn...

  • 10 votes
#1.13 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:22 AM EST
SH-2000

Immutable Truths About Liberals #13. Liberals have an inflated sense of self-worth. They are like house flies that criticize the air-worthiness of a Stealth fighter. (Sarah Palin, George W. Bush, ad infinitum are morons.)

Spirit, I used to only joke about right wing nuts being brainwashed...now I see it is worse than I thought. Immutable truths? Is there an immutable truth about any friggin' thing?

Roy, Spirt will never answer, he/she is not here for debate or even off topic pleasant conversation only to spread animosity. Quite sad.

  • 8 votes
#1.14 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:39 AM EST
MyView-222

Midge

I wonder if the word "sedition" is in her vocabulary? Nah, (snark) too many syllables

Why do you ask? Because of the Sedition Act of 1918?

Repealed 1920. Nice try.

Remember a little thing called the Constitution?

"Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or the press."

  • 1 vote
#1.15 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:53 AM EST
John-1509117

Sarah Palin addressed the audience without a teleprompter unlike the incompetent, inept occupant of the White House.

Where did Obungler attend school? LOL!

I will provide the cheese for all the whiners!

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:10 PM EST
Phil-1006700

Say what you want but the bottom line is three elections were lost to the left and more are on the way. So according to the elitists , stupid is going to rule. After seeing Obama and his gang of Czars I welcome anybody but them . The teaparty is here and the left will have to live with it. you all may be educated but once again you can't hold a hammer. The days of peaceniks are far gone. It's all so simple , but you can't see it. A foreigner trying to blow up Americans and kill our way of life does not deserve the constitutional rights that we have. It's crazy. This administration is always placing blame and positioning itself to avoid making hard decisions. Placing terrorists in civilian courts allows our Nobel Peace Prize winner, and Commander in Chief of the military, the easy way out of signing the death warrant on a Muslim. You say Palin didn't suggest anything , she doesn't have to , we know what needs to be done the eletists don't. They believe everyone will follow lock step to their beliefs. we have no intention of going in that direction.

  • 1 vote
#1.17 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:30 PM EST
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AlphaDogReporter

Her speech was all Republican talking points, misinformation and blaming Democrats for everything that is wrong. Just an updated replay of 99% of her VP campaign speeches. A complete yawnfest that only continues the divisiveness.

Until the Tea Party holds both R's and D's equally accountable, their credibility and motives are suspect.

  • 19 votes
Reply#2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:08 AM EST
Smokie-788412

I believe they showed that with the election in Massachusetts. Brown got votes from all sides. The Tea Party has good point to make and that is that the politicians need to get to know their districts better. Democrat, Republican, all Others need to start listening to the Public and not their party. Replacement seems to be the way to go.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:05 AM EST
AlphaDogReporter

You can believe whatever you want. My local and state Tea Party groups denounce Democrats only, use talking points right out of the Republican playbook, quote Fox News and their pundits but not MSNBC, CNN, or any news sources that could be construed as even slightly liberal. Their plan is to try and get as many Republicans elected as possible and obstruct as much government as possible.

I'll be the first to agree that government has gotten too big an unwieldy, but at the same time the Tea Partiers as a group can't go around saying they are non-partisan when they clearly aren't. It goes to their credibility. Of course, in politics, credibility is pretty much out the window so why should I expect any different from them?

  • 8 votes
#2.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:27 AM EST
Lola-Ohio

The Tea Party is stoked and funded by corporate GOP. Their mission is to behead a sitting President of the United States elected by the people by any means possible including playing to a number of disgruntled splinter groups with one thing in common. They are afraid of Obama and what he may represent. They must be party to his failure in order for the GOP to seize power back, re-write history, and cover-up the corruption that occurred during the Bush administration. They are making a whipping boy out of Obama and blaming him for the mess they created. Honestly, folks, GOP will use anyone they can who has nothing to lose to spout their venomous fear-mongering because they do not even have a legitimate platform that does not involve discriminating against some group. You will see as the year progresses toward midterm elections how the Republicans will smooze these groups and slowly nudge away from them after using them for some fake "revolution".

  • 12 votes
#2.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:04 AM EST
SkepticalThomas

I oppose Obama. Simply because in one year he has proven to be the worst president I have seen in my lifetime. The incompetence, the lies, the deception, the undermining of the constitution, the narcissism, the ineffectiveness, the repugnant policy positions, the divisiveness, the cowardice, the corruption and on and on ad infinitum.

And the racists among us can't see past race as an explanation for the rejection of his cult like following.

  • 1 vote
#2.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:06 PM EST
vol fan in chatt, tn

where do some of you people get your "facts"? Lola, you can't even be serious.... yeah, it's just about race....please

  • 2 votes
#2.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:25 PM EST
John-1509117

Lola-Ohio......They are afraid of Obama and what he may represent.

Not what he may represent, what he does represent. SOCIALISM!

  • 2 votes
#2.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:18 PM EST
SH-2000

John, any American born here has been bred on capitialisim, Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal, Independent and yes even those who identify themselves as Socialists. We all live pretty comfortably even our poor compared to other nations. We all have monthly bills to pay, and pay for EVERYTHING from water to TV & you can't do that under socialism! We (when we have it) enjoy spending money in malls, online & going out. We are the country that has more theme parks than any other in the world & parents do not think twice on spending $1000 on at weekend at Disney. We like flat screen tv's, mani's & pedi's, driving nice cars & fine dining. Our top rated tv shows have been everything from Dynasty to Real Housewives of anywhere USA because we love watching how we'd like our finances to be...bigger & wealthier. We invented advertising & prefect it every day because we have also cultivated the consumer. We are an nation of keeping up with the Jones's; we have shown we are mostly spender's & not savers...and we've got in to a rough financial time because we are spenders, yet we want more, we dream of more & we plan on having more aka the American dream, Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal, Independent and yes even those who identify themselves as Socialists, we all live as capitalists & you know thats TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, give up this socialist arguement because theres no one born & raised here on capitilisim who want that, not a one. Not even Barack Obama who actually ACHIEVED the American dream & went from poor to middle class to wealthy; no all we want is capitilisim not to come at the price of crushing the dreams of the poor & middle class. Please think about this & get an argument that can be debated.

  • 5 votes
#2.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:34 PM EST
Lola-Ohio

The Republicans are using you guys. They will drop you like a hot potato after they get themselves back in power.

  • 1 vote
#2.8 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 9:46 AM EST
vol fan in chatt, tn

scared, Lola?

  • 1 vote
#2.9 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:32 AM EST
Lola-Ohio

Yes. The country won't survive another Republican administration.

  • 1 vote
#2.10 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:33 PM EST
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Rixar13

"How's that hope-y, change-y stuff workin' out for you?"

If Republicans would stop obstructing everything, we might have a better chance to find out...

  • 20 votes
Reply#3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:39 AM EST
KitKat51

AMEN!

  • 15 votes
#3.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:01 AM EST
Smokie-788412

When the Democrats had the majority they couldn't anything done. Their policies are so bad that no one wanted to get to close to them.

  • 1 vote
#3.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:07 AM EST
vol fan in chatt, tn

yada, yada, yada - Dem talking points. They had to buy off senators just to get the votes for their own friggin healthcare bill - at least one party listened to the people on that monstrosity of a bill

  • 2 votes
#3.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:59 AM EST
madvargr

Yeah vol fan, because we all know that such things have never happened under the GOP...

right.

  • 11 votes
#3.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:26 AM EST
vol fan in chatt, tn

please enlighten us...show me where the Rep had to buy off their own members for a bill they sponsored

  • 2 votes
#3.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:34 AM EST
vol fan in chatt, tn

still waiting...

    #3.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:58 PM EST
    SH-2000

    We can't, they fall in line; one says no & they all say no. Not a good thing...

    • 5 votes
    #3.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:38 PM EST
    Ripley8

    Smokie-788412

    When the Democrats had the majority they couldn't anything done. Their policies are so bad that no one wanted to get to close to them.

    the majority when ? under bush ? lol. no. they did win the numbers by 2 seats ... yet one was out because of a cerebral hemmorage and one was Lieberman who's really a con. plus dems don't vote like con sheep did in congress.. they still don't. they don't blindly follow party line but use their brains. have vast differences.

    Plus all those signing statements made by Bush ?

    now , historically dems are better for the economy than cons...

    Politicians Lie, Numbers Don't

    And the numbers show that Democrats are better for the economy than Republicans.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2199810/

    now ..thank Bush . with the 11.5 trillion dollar deficit he left.

    • 1 vote
    #3.8 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:21 PM EST
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    IC2

    Palin hired former Gore speechwriter for big speech
    Posted: February 3rd, 2010 04:44 AM ET
    From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby

    Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin delivered a humorous speech at the Gridiron Dinner last December.

    WASHINGTON (CNN) - Sarah Palin's political action committee doled out tens of thousands of dollars last year to Republican consulting firms and donations to GOP candidates, according to the PAC's end-of-year filing with the Federal Election Commission.

    But Sarah PAC also paid one Democrat $14,000 for what the FEC report terms "Consulting, Communication, Speech."

    That Democrat was Eric Schnure, a former speechwriter for Al Gore, who was hired by Palin to craft her humorous speech to the Gridiron Dinner in Washington last December.

    Schnure, a speechwriting veteran who recently signed on with the communications consulting firm Dewey Square Group, calls himself a "proud Democrat." But Schnure said he had no problem helping a Republican – even one as polarizing as Palin – with a speech designed to make people laugh.

    "I think humor is one of the last bastions of bipartisanship," Schnure told CNN. "She elicits strong opinions on both sides of the aisle, but I think most people in Washington are savvy about these things. And they understand these humor events have a special place."

    Still, Schnure said he has received a fair amount of ribbing from fellow Democrats – including his wife – for

    • 1 vote
    Reply#4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:45 AM EST
    Roy-933464

    Schnure calls himself a "proud Democrat." But Schnure said he had no problem helping a Republican – even one as polarizing as Palin – with a speech designed to make people laugh.

    As a professional speechwriter, if he'd said "business is business," i probably wouldn't bat an eye...$14,000 can do good things in December...don't BS me though. There's nothing noble about aiding and abetting Sarah Palin in the act of pretending she has a brain or wit.

    Aiding and abetting applies to someone who assists or helps one or more other people commit a crime. To be held accountable as an aider and abettor, you must know of the criminal objective and do something to make it succeed.

    • 3 votes
    #4.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:32 AM EST
    madvargr

    C'mon - streetwalkers don't discriminate... The madam doesn't ask who you voted for when you enter the brothel... A WHORE is a WHORE....

    • 5 votes
    #4.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:28 AM EST
    John-1509117

    Roy-933464...There's nothing noble about aiding and abetting Sarah Palin in the act of pretending she has a brain or wit.

    Unlike Obungler, Palin can actually deliver a speech without a teleprompter! LOL! No wonder Obungler sealed his "college transcripts".

    • 2 votes
    #4.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:24 PM EST
    SH-2000

    John, Palin does not have to give several 45 minuets speeches a day. Why would you want the president wasting the day memorizing speeches????? Besides that, did you know that Bush used one & needed phonetics on his, lol!

    • 6 votes
    #4.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:42 PM EST
    Ripley8

    here John ... just to shut you up !! prove you cons are lying hypocrites or ignorant ... you can pick.

    Tired of hearing the con talking rhetoric about teleprompters ....

    on their use of teleprompters ..

    . Bush Jr. did. he just couldn't read well.

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-09/27/xinsrc_1820904271111140187602.jpg

    Bush Sr. using a teleprompter

    http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t041/T041653A.jpg

    Ronald Reagan using a teleprompter

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/President_Reagan_gives_the_State_of_the_Union_Address_to_Congress_1988.jpg

    SARAH PALIN trying to use a teleprompter

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BYW4anrHl_8/SsKXqjF63SI/AAAAAAAAAPE/Qv7g3549kuc/s320/Teleprompter+Sarah+Palin+VP+speech+at+RNC+line.jpg

    McCain and Palin using a teleprompter

    http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/Kovie64/CSPAN-080031-McCainPalinRally.jpg

    which proves cons are hypocrites !!!

    and for Palin to not just like a teen write on her hand but to cross a point out on her hand ? lmfao !!

    http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/06/no-teleprompter-needed/

    more pics out there !! and don't forget ' the dude' Palins husbands palm pilot

    http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/images/redneck_palm_pilot.jpg

    • 3 votes
    #4.5 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:28 PM EST
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    Lisa-372621

    Sarah Palin complained about Wall Street bailout, yet all the while she's receiving $100,000 to read from index cards! She said she joined the other Republican governors in turning down the stimulus money for her state. Has she noticed they still have jobs and she doesn't? Nobody as ignorant as Sarah Palin she ever be allowed to speak, period. She's a walking contradiction.

    NOTE TO REPUBLICAN LEADERS: The 45-minute speech Palin delivered was full of lies, misinformation, divisive and she represents your party. Unless the only people voting in the 2012 election were the 200 or so people in that room, the Republican party will never see inside the Beltway again. Just as the Republicans needed to distant themselves from Bush, then they certainly should distant themselves from Sarah Palin. To simply ignore her is a sure fire way the Democrats gain more than they would have lost. We thank you in advance.

    The lies, and they are lies, have to stop. Until the Republican stop this most antiquated, annoying problem, then they will lose. For instance, believing the country is far from center-right. If it were, then McCain and Palin would be in office, wouldn't they?

    • 14 votes
    Reply#5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:57 AM EST
    Smokie-788412

    Looks like you are scared of Shara Palin and the Tea Party movement!! Wake up!!

    • 3 votes
    #5.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:12 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    Do you have any idea how much Al, Hot Air, Gore makes for an appearance? Or Bill Clinton? It's a lot more than she made.

    Please list the lies Palin said...this should be interesting.

    • 3 votes
    #5.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:04 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    Do you have any idea how much Al, Hot Air, Gore makes for an appearance? Or Bill Clinton? It's a lot more than she made.

    Please list the lies Palin said...this should be interesting.

    • 1 vote
    #5.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:09 AM EST
    brightstarone

    Lisa-372621,regarding post #5:

    Sarah Palin complained about Wall Street bailout, yet all the while she's receiving $100,000 to read from index cards!

    The 45-minute speech Palin delivered was full of lies, misinformation, divisive...

    Wow!!! ..... that works out to $2,222.22 per minuet for making a divisive speech about a revolution against America, all the while pretending to be patriotic. Didn't her hubby belong to the Alaska Independence Party? you know the party that was started by a guy who said:

    "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to the hatred that I feel for America"

    It just goes to show that anyone can make it in America - even a phony un-patriotic air head like Palin

    • 5 votes
    #5.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:29 AM EST
    SH-2000

    Do you have any idea how much Al, Hot Air, Gore makes for an appearance? Or Bill Clinton? It's a lot more than she made.

    Hi Vol, they should be paid more as they were elected Pres & VP & served their full terms, where Palin was just a gov. that quit. I'm sure Bush will command a higher price to speak too, as he should compaired to Palin.

    • 9 votes
    #5.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:43 AM EST
    John-1509117

    SH-2000......Hi Vol, they should be paid more as they were elected Pres & VP & served their full terms

    I did not have sex with that woman, Lewinsky...Clinton and GloBull warming Al! They're still searching for their credibility!

    • 1 vote
    #5.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:31 PM EST
    Ripley8

    and Bush can try to find his by still lying that the war in Iraq was legal !! or that wire tapping was when he said he had those court orders and had not one !

    • 1 vote
    #5.7 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:32 PM EST
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    dfhsdfhDeleted
    Steve Mc. in Nebraska

    I listened to her for as long as I could stand it. People kept giving her standing ovations - for what? All she did was identify problem - after problem...... criticize - and then offer a few broad statements as to the future.

    Problem is - no substance at all - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to be an expert problem-identifier, but how do we get there? She obviously doesn't know.............

    • 12 votes
    Reply#7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:13 AM EST
    are you crazy?-1425777

    Lemmings have no need of, nor want, substance, facts or reality, it gets to complicated. Sarah hasn’t substance, doesn’t rely on facts and appears to have never dealt with realty. What a match.

    • 11 votes
    #7.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:25 AM EST
    Fred-45144444

    Just like the Lemmings from Nov. 2008 .

    • 3 votes
    #7.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:50 AM EST
    Smokie-788412

    Steve-------The people running this show right now have no clue as to what to do. The have been at for a year and made the problems bigger and more costly. If you think about it we are in worst shape than we were before the elections.

    • 2 votes
    #7.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:21 AM EST
    SH-2000

    We are in BETTER shape then before the election.

    • 9 votes
    #7.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:45 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    frankly, SH, I don't feel that, and neither does most of the country.

    In the daily kos - a left wing blog poll

    one year ago - 34 said wrong direction, 58 said right direction

    today - 60 say wrong direction, 39 say right direction

    http://www.pollingreport.com/right.htm

    • 1 vote
    #7.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:16 AM EST
    John-1509117

    SH-2000...We are in BETTER shape then before the election.

    Where can I get some of what you are ingesting, inhaling or injecting?

    • 1 vote
    #7.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:35 PM EST
    Ripley8

    Johnny boy !! get your head out of your ass !

    we are in better shape !!

    that downward spiral ala Bush has slowed ... starting to turn ! fixed yet ? no. after all the Bush damage to the nation it's going to take awhile and alot of hard work and belt tightening... things cons hate.

    Politicians Lie, Numbers Don't
    And the numbers show that Democrats are better for the economy than Republicans.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2199810/

    • 2 votes
    #7.7 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:36 PM EST
    are you crazy?-1425777

    Bush sunk the ship, it's going to take a while to bail it back out. Only problem is Obama is not be bailing hard enough, Dems on the hill aren’t helping and Repubs on the hill are bailing the water back in.

    • 1 vote
    #7.8 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 7:19 PM EST
    Reply
    lotstosay

    If that is all you "tea baggers" get for $100,00 you should start another revolution. If you are buyin' it she will keep sellin' it. Has anyone asked her what this "cause" is that she is giving her speaker's fee to?

    • 6 votes
    Reply#8 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:25 AM EST
    brightstarone

    lotstosay,regarding post #8:

    Has anyone asked her what this "cause" is that she is giving her speaker's fee to?

    Do you think she might be lying about that? Would Saint Sara keep the money for herself after saying that she would give it to an undefined - "cause" - YOU BETCHA. (wink)

    • 4 votes
    #8.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:38 AM EST
    John-1509117

    brightstarone......Do you think she might be lying about that? Would Saint Sara keep the money for herself after saying that she would give it to an undefined - "cause" - YOU BETCHA. (wink)

    Some people actually have a moral compass! Some don't.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs

    Clinton, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman...

    • 1 vote
    #8.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:41 PM EST
    brightstarone

    John-1509117,regarding post #8.2:

    A bit off topic aren't we john?......what is that; a weak deflection to divert from that fact that Saint Sara is a phony - un-patriotic - air head?

    OK, since you can't defend Saint Sara's indefensible stupidity, with out going on an off topic tangent; here is another link for you to look at, not that it has anymore relevance to the seed topic then your link did, but since you can't defend that air head Saint Sara on her own merits because she doesn't have a "moral compass" let's look at other politicians that were caught lying.

    tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh163n1lJ4M&NR=1

    There, feel better now? Even with those deflections, the fact still remains - Saint Sara is a lying, hypocritical, money whore, who turned her back on the people of Alaska by quitting her term as their Governor before it was up, so that she could cash in on her celebrity; which she did not even earn. Her national celebrity was given to her when McCain chose her as his VP running mate.

    • 3 votes
    #8.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:27 PM EST
    brightstarone

    John-1509117, regarding link on post #8.3:

    The first one didn't go through I made an error in posting sorry :(

    Here is the correct link, enjoy ]:-}~

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh163n1lJ4M

    • 2 votes
    #8.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:38 PM EST
    Reply
    Wizeguy

    in a speech that was short on ideas but big on enthusiasm, took aim at President Barack Obama and the Democrats

    Short on ideas and s hit for brains. A deadly combination.

    That prompted most in the audience to stand up and chant "Run, Sarah, Run!"

    Please. please. please run that ditz in 2012! Like Lisa 372621 said "the Republican party will never see inside the Beltway again"

    • 8 votes
    Reply#9 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:56 AM EST
    madvargr

    Oh don't worry - we learn from the GOP too. I, and many Democrats around the US, will be going door to door for Sarah in 2011 to make sure she is on the ballot for 2012....

    • 7 votes
    #9.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:31 AM EST
    Wizeguy

    Ha ha ha they will get what they wish for....I'm a liking that idea!

    • 1 vote
    #9.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:35 AM EST
    Reply
    KitKat51

    I wish somebody would give me $100,000 for being cute and reading a funny story.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#10 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:02 AM EST
    Wizeguy

    You think she's cute? I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think she is kind of skanky.

    • 12 votes
    #10.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:10 AM EST
    Smokie-788412

    Wizeguy-------You must be really scared of Shara Palin. Let me put it this way if you like high taxes, a National debit going through the roof and Uncle Sam running your life for you Obama fits you well.

    • 2 votes
    #10.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:28 AM EST
    madvargr

    That's a nice talking point Smokie - too bad it is devoid of fact.

    Obama lowered taxes on 80% of Americans and Bush is solely responsible for our current budget deficit while the GOP is responsible for 85% of the entire national debt. I'll stick with the party that actually IS fiscally resposible over the group of know-nothings that just pay lip service to the idea...

    • 11 votes
    #10.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:34 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    Obama lowered taxes on 80% of Americans

    source? Oh and by the way didn't he say he would lower the taxes for 95% of Americans? Yes, I believe he did...so actually, he failed to deliver on that too, according to your calculations!

    • 1 vote
    #10.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:39 AM EST
    redsfan

    Actually...he has lowered taxes on 95% of working Americans...here is the source...

    Because the stimulus act did give that broad-based tax cut to workers, we rate Obama's statement True.

    Tax Cut for 95% of Working Americans? Rated True.

    • 9 votes
    #10.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:42 AM EST
    SH-2000

    Wise guy, lol!

    • 6 votes
    #10.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:46 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    oh, ok, so that explains why my withholding went up this year, it was just a one year decrease to cut taxes and keep a promise. Got it...I was curious as to why he said 80% and where he got his "facts". And according to him and his facts, Obama didn't deliver.

    • 2 votes
    #10.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:07 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    oh, and don't forget, you get to pay taxes on that extra money...yeehaw!

    • 1 vote
    #10.8 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:00 PM EST
    Reply
    Edward-453134

    T AXED

    E NOUGH

    A LREADY

    That makes absolute no sense what so ever. From what I've just picked up earlier this week shows just how laws can benefit the writers of those laws. Depending on what government job one might have, I heard that they can deduct so much per day, in reality pay absolutely no taxes what so ever. They do not have to prove they worked for the people.

    If enough taxes are being collected, then why is the national deficit over $12 trillion dollars?

    How can one spend money they don't have? Easy while the government keeps borrowing, they will continue to add to the national deficit. What gives the government the right to add to the national deficit and show it what as to what each man, woman and child owes? By continuously borrowing, is our government putting the United States at risk. Would they be up holding the Constitution of the United States? To defend and to protect this country

    • 5 votes
    Reply#11 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:24 AM EST
    Eric1972

    T AXED

    E NOUGH

    A LREADY

    That makes absolute no sense what so ever.

    When referring to "tax", it doesn't necessarily mean money or the tax dollar we pay to the government. The word tax sometimes is defined as a burden. So issues (or burdens) such as gun control, laws against gay rights, loss of freedom of speech (or any freedom), etc... can be considered a tax on the American people. Thats more what the TEA party is about.

    • 2 votes
    #11.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:38 AM EST
    redsfan

    I do wish there was a clearer "party platform" for the tea party people. I don't understand their often conflicting messages on their signs at their rallies. I don't understand the conflicting "cries for action" amongst their speakers. Unlike the libertarian party, who seem to be pretty consistent in their beliefs and policies, the tea partiers are all over the place.

    • 9 votes
    #11.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:08 AM EST
    SkepticalThomas

    What makes no sense is your comment. Deficit spending is a tax on our future or are you that big a dimwit?

    • 1 vote
    #11.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:12 AM EST
    madvargr

    So you admit to being asleep for the past 30 years? Don't worry, once the scary black man is out of the white house, you can go back to sleep and keep voting GOP - cause you know it is their policies that keep those pesky socialists in check....

    LOL

    • 11 votes
    #11.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:37 AM EST
    SH-2000

    When referring to "tax", it doesn't necessarily mean money or the tax dollar we pay to the government. The word tax sometimes is defined as a burden. So issues (or burdens) such as gun control, laws against gay rights, loss of freedom of speech (or any freedom), etc... can be considered a tax on the American people. Thats more what the TEA party is about.

    I disagree. Yes, the word tax could be used that way but thats not how the teabaggers have been using it. In fact they have not stopped whining about their imaginary tax increase, but then again they were never a group who cared much for facts.

    • 8 votes
    #11.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:50 AM EST
    Reply
    Chello

    Sarah Palin wants people to believe she is out for America when she is only out for herself. Her sarcasm is childish and unbecoming of a political leader.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#12 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:18 AM EST
    Smokie-788412

    Chello------Most, if not all politicians, are in this game to for themselves, right? Obama hasn't lied or nothing like that and hasn't treated his friends well. I'm sure he ran for office to change the world just like the others? Wake up they are all the same and they all come a price. Many dollars bought off many Democrats to vote for insurance reform.

    • 2 votes
    #12.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:35 AM EST
    Chello

    I guess they all quit their ELECTED position to write books and do speeches becasue they care so much like she says she does.

    • 6 votes
    #12.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:02 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    unbecoming of a political leader.

    What or Whom is Palin a political leader? She's a private citizen - she can say whatever she likes.

    • 3 votes
    #12.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:09 AM EST
    SH-2000

    Good point Vol & I'd like to see her stay that way; although I beleive Palin has visions of glory, lol. As a consertative, don't you think your party can do better than Palin? I'm just curious; I could never understand why the GOP sets the bar so low (see Bush & Palin) & everyone nods their heads yes...as a liberal I would like to see the GOP do better at cultivating candidates; at least then if the person gets elected I can say okay I don't agree with their policy but I can respect that this person is educated & knows what they are doing.

    • 6 votes
    #12.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:57 AM EST
    Chello

    you are right vol. I should have said wannabe. Tell that to all the people shouting Run Palin Run at the wee-bag convention.

    • 5 votes
    #12.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:10 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    I don't think anybody that any party or faction puts out there will make the Dem party quit making snide remarks. Seriously, who could the R's put out there where you guys wouldn't say "he's an idiot, she's an idiot" stuff. In my book and from reading what some of you all post - there's no one anywhere or from any party who even comes close to your superior intellect(?)

    • 1 vote
    #12.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:23 AM EST
    John-1509117

    Chello.......Sarah Palin wants people to believe she is out for America when she is only out for herself.

    Can you provide some evidence to support your allegation? Sounds like sour grapes to me.

    • 1 vote
    #12.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:50 PM EST
    American Lobo

    Quitting her job as Governor of Alaska, so she could do a book tour and take a job at FOX, is pretty blatant evidence.

    • 1 vote
    #12.8 - Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:46 AM EST
    Reply
    peggy

    I quote William Shakespear "Full of Sound and Fury Signifying nothing." Again the gasbags at this meeting offer nothing new. Media covers this like it was important. I hate to say this but the media is this party's best recruiter.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#13 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:23 AM EST
    Smokie-788412

    What you missed is that they have no no clear leader and they don't want one. They will support any politician with the right policies in mind. Democrat or Republican doesn't matter just look at Massachusettes a lot of people crossed over.

    • 2 votes
    #13.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:40 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    didn't bother reading the article or she would have known this.

    • 2 votes
    #13.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:12 AM EST
    SH-2000

    Sigh! Massachusetts was lost because MA residents havea public health care option & like it, period. They want to keep it even if it means none for the rest of us. But you guys want to see it another way, okay...only 49 give or take states to go & we are still living with the fresh pain of the Bush recession, good luck your are gonna need it.

    "Full of Sound and Fury Signifying nothing."

    Indeed!

    • 6 votes
    #13.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:02 AM EST
    Reply
    demdame

    I would like to know how many people attended this @!$%#fest and if the numbers are in proportion to the amount of reporting she is receiving. Shouldn't we just ignore this nonsense, all this morning there will be coverage which as you know in show biz is NEVER bad.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#14 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:37 AM EST
    Smokie-788412

    We have record unemployment and people couldn't afford to go. No big deal the members on the Internet got the information they needed. They are doing that all around the country now days. If you call losing Massachusetts to a Republican non-sense well a little more information should clear that right up.

    • 4 votes
    #14.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:45 AM EST
    John-1509117

    demdame.......I would like to know how many people attended this @!$%#fest and if the numbers are in proportion to the amount of reporting she is receiving. Shouldn't we just ignore this nonsense,

    At your peril. It's a free country and if you want to hitch your wagon to the dim party no one is going to stop you. Socialism is a loser.

    • 1 vote
    #14.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 1:57 PM EST
    Reply
    demdame

    I call all this exposure for Barbie nonsense and the publicity she incites taking the focus off the real issues. That is why we lost Mass. The free clinics that caring nurses and doctors are offering around the country are barely covered while today, once again, it's the doll that never dies. As the climate warms, (and yes I STILL believe it's a proven fact), we waste our time and energy in bickering and finishing nothing. We need some DEMOCRATIC backbone.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#15 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:14 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    please - you still believe that nonsense?

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/the-great-global-warming-collapse/article1458206/

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7017922.ece

    or just google it - the whole thing is unraveling faster than clothes made in China

    • 2 votes
    #15.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:31 AM EST
    madvargr

    the whole thing is unraveling faster than clothes made in China

    And yet not as fast as provable scientific facts like melting polar ice, desertification, rising sea temp, rising air temp, unseasonal precipitation...keep on with your head in the sand, I know it feels good, all warm on your ears so you don't have to hear the truth...

    Besides, yoiu know that you like having an enemy to fight - if you don't spend billions of dollars a year on Middle Eastern oil, al Qaeda will run out of funding - and then who would you spend (more money than the rest of the world combined) to fight in a never ending war?

    • 7 votes
    #15.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:43 AM EST
    SkepticalThomas

    And yet not as fast as provable scientific facts like melting polar ice, desertification, rising sea temp, rising air temp, unseasonal precipitation...keep on with your head in the sand, I know it feels good, all warm on your ears so you don't have to hear the truth...

    Oh my god! Are you really that insane?

    Every one of those myths has been fully debunked now. But I guess you are not alone. People are lining up all over the place to exploit your ignorance in what may prove to biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind.

    • 1 vote
    #15.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:49 AM EST
    SH-2000

    And yet we have our own proof this year (if you care to ignore science). Here in FL we've had more record cold, our crops are badly damaged & our landscapes fried. Further south we have Haiti, our equvilant to Pompeii & you ignore global warming?

    • 5 votes
    #15.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:07 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    Sh, are you blaming the earthquake on Gorbal Warming?

    • 1 vote
    #15.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:26 AM EST
    SkepticalThomas

    LOL Insane is too kind of term. So it's certifiable now. You actually linked Haiti to global warming.

    • 1 vote
    #15.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:28 AM EST
    SH-2000

    YES.

    • 3 votes
    #15.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:30 AM EST
    SH-2000

    Thomas, go review the COH or please stop responding.

    • 4 votes
    #15.8 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:30 AM EST
    SkepticalThomas

    People talk about science like they actually ever attended a science class when they weren't stoned. A large part of the debunking explains how the science has been totally corrupted. So your general faith in science has no place in this discussion except to refute the bad science that so many ignorant people accept it as gospel.

    • 2 votes
    #15.9 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:35 AM EST
    madvargr

    I love it. I've personally seen the melting glaciers, the retreating polar ice, the desertification in China... What have you done, except sit in a Chamber of Commerce meeting and be handed a list of GOP talking points? The right wing in this country hates science except for whatever new cool ways it can devise to kill brown skinned people around the world for their natural resources, so where do you get off lecturing about science? It's my @!$%#ing major for Christ's sake. And since I've never smoked pot, I wouldn't know what it is to sit in class while under its influence - but I'm sure a good, legacy C student like Bush would...

    Or maybe Sarah of the six colleges to graduate would...

    • 7 votes
    #15.10 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:57 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    The right wing in this country hates science except for whatever new cool ways it can devise to kill brown skinned people around the world for their natural resources, so where do you get off lecturing about science?

    that's crap! Against COH. Ever heard of climategate...like I said it is unraveling faster than clothes from China...and there is an explanation for the things you cite - one of them is that it happens to be cyclical. But don't let opposing science get in the way of your belief system..we wouldn't want that to happen.

    • 1 vote
    #15.11 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:31 PM EST
    John-1509117

    madvargr.....I love it. I've personally seen the melting glaciers, the retreating polar ice, the desertification in China

    Hate to rain on your GloBull warming parade but,

    'Climategate' Professor Phil Jones 'considered suicide over email ...‎ - 7 hours ago

    Professor Phil Jones, the scientist at the centre of the "Climategate" leaked email scandal, has told how he considered suicide over the affair. ...
    Telegraph.co.uk -

    • 1 vote
    #15.12 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:04 PM EST
    Reply
    herkyhawkeyes

    Palin is proof on how much this country has dumbed down.  Amazing that college educated and so-called intelligent people can applause every time she opens her mouth. 

    • 10 votes
    Reply#16 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:15 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    speaking off dumb downed - you should see these:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xod9wV6NKeg&NR=1&feature=fvwp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5YrS2pLfMs&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woBC5b3Ti0M&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK7fClYIWiQ

    • 2 votes
    #16.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:28 AM EST
    SH-2000

    Amazing that college educated and so-called intelligent people can applause every time she opens her mouth.

    I don't think that's her audience,lol.

    • 7 votes
    #16.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:15 AM EST
    John-1509117

    herkyhawkeyes ....Palin is proof on how much this country has dumbed down.

    At least she can address a crowd without the aid of teleprompters! LOL Unlike Obungler.

    • 1 vote
    #16.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:08 PM EST
    SH-2000

    President George W Bush's phonetic teleprompter revealed

    If Sarah had to give an several hour long speaches daily she'd need a teleprompter too & a phonetic one no doubt. I think we all need translations on the scree just so we van understand her,lol

    And getting up here I say it is the best road trip in America soaring through nature's finest show. Denali, the great one, soaring under the midnight sun. And then the extremes. In the winter time it's the frozen road that is competing with the view of ice fogged frigid beauty, the cold though, doesn't it split the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs?-S. Palin

    • 4 votes
    #16.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:40 PM EST
    John-1509117

    SH-2000...If Sarah had to give an several hour long speaches(sic) daily she'd need a teleprompter too & a phonetic one no doubt. I think we all need translations on the scree(sic) just so we van(sic) understand her

    English is a language with words, that when written, have spelling that defines them for the reader. Written prose can be confusing for those unfamiliar with the form, especially if they are not familiar with the subject matter as apparently you aren't.

    • 1 vote
    #16.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:02 PM EST
    SH-2000

    John, when all you've got are insults, you've already lost the argument. Debate 101.

    • 5 votes
    #16.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:47 PM EST
    John-1509117

    SH-2000......John, when all you've got are insults, you've already lost the argument. Debate 101.

    Insults? What is there that I stated that is an insult to you? Please be specific.

    • 1 vote
    #16.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:21 PM EST
    SH-2000

    Insults? What is there that I stated that is an insult to you? Please be specific.

    26.3

    7.6

    16.5

    And amazing rude to others @ 24.3 & 24.5

    Resorting to personal verbal attacks is proof you are on the wrong side of this debate; if you had actual substance & fact, there would be no need, just saying.

    • 2 votes
    #16.8 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
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    Al 616

    Wow. If anyone had done this under President Bush, "some people" would have accused this person of being "unpatriotic," and would have accused this person of undermining the station of the POTUS...and labeled this person as seditious.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#17 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:27 AM EST
    Killfile

    Honestly, do these people never learn? Why, why are they handing out TEA bags?

    • 7 votes
    Reply#18 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:30 AM EST
    redsfan

    And then getting mad when they are referred to as "tea baggers". *sigh*

    • 9 votes
    #18.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:34 AM EST
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    Sir. Thinkswaytoomuch

    The economy sucks and she still has the time and money to traipse around the country and give meandering speeches. Clearly not taxed enough.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#19 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:39 AM EST
    clearwaterbeach1-2

    I was disappointed that Sarah Palin didn't elaborate on the reasons behind job loss in America. Namely NAFTA & the WTO. Or the fact that American Unions fought these issues for years while those 'still employed' cursed them. Hanniford Schidt of the WTO announced November 11, 2006, the creation of a WTO initiative for Full Private Stewardry of Labor for parts of Africa. The initiative will require Western companies doing business in some parts of Africa to own their workers outright. Schmidt recounted how private stewardship has been successfully applied to transport, power, water, traditional knowledge, and even the human genome. The WTO's full private stewardry program will extend these successes to re-privatize humans themselves. Schmidt acknowledged that the stewardry programs was similiar in many ways to slavery, but explained that just as Compassionate Conservatism has polished the rough edges on labor relations in industrialized countires, full stewardry, or Compassionate Slavery, could be a similar boon to develoing ones." Give that some deep thought.

    A BusinessWeek report July 16, 2009 announced that "in 2008, for the first time, American companies' foreign income tax exceeded taxes paid domestically. According to Howard Silverblatt's annual S&P 500 Global sales report, released July 14 American companies income tax payouts for 2008 accounted for more than 55% of their total income tax, up from 45% in 2007 an $11.5 billion increase. " That's $11.5 billion that did not go into the US Federal Treasury. Silverblatt added "financials alone in the S&P 500 paid 16 times as much in foreign income taxes as domestic, $13.3 billion compared with the paltry $817 million, all while suffering massive losses."

    December 24, 2003 the Republicans were just getting started. On December 24, 2003 a Reuters report stated "US companies moving more jobs overseas. Morgan Stanley estimates the number of U.S. jobs outsourced to India will double to about 150,000 through 2006. Analysts predict as many as 2 million U.S. white collar jobs such as programmers, software engineers and applications designers will shift to low cost centers by 2010." These companies had no Labor Unions. Isn't it time for someone in leadership to end this? "The biggest companies looking to offshoring to cut costs, such as Microsoft Corp., International Business Machines Corp., and AT&T Wireless are reluctant to attract attention for political reasons, observers said. The problem is that companies aren't sure if it's politically correct to talk about it, said Jack Trout, a principal of Trout & Partners, a marketiing and strategy firm. Nobody has come up with a way to spin it in a positive way," Trout Said.

    December 24, 2003 Reuters. When accenture Ltd. executives in India this month announced plans to double their staff to 10,000 next year, they triggered a flood of calls to the company's U.S. offices about U. U. job losses. Offshoring companies are paying Chinese wages and selling at U.S prices, " said Alan Tonelson, of the U.S. Business and Industrial Council, a grade group for small business. They're not creatiang better living standards for America." WOW...This is precisely what the Unions were saying during the 1990's while beeing boo'd by those workers who thought it would never happen.

    Take a look at the jobs that have moved overseas by researching "Exporting America." As you view them ask yourself 'how many of these companies had labor unions that required a decent pay for a decent days work. I will not trust any politician until some would be leader frankly addresses the issue of Exporting American Jobs.

    Sarah Palin has absolutely no understanding regarding this issue. However, leaders of the Bush and Obama Administrations do understand the issue and continue to do nothing about it. So one is as bad as the other.

    They don't wan't us to talk about it but lets DO talk and talk and talk until someone listens.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#20 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:40 AM EST
    Anka-345092

    Clearwater - great post! And I agree one is as bad as the other, and they don't want to talk about it. Thirty years of bad decisions at the peril of the American worker..........and now, no one can put humpty dumpty back together again.

      #20.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:18 PM EST
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      SkepticalThomas

      I don't get all this fear of Palin. It's not the republican party is going to nominate her for anything. SHe can't win anything. She can raise some money and stir things up but beyond that forget about it.

      So why the fear. Because of the attention she gets? Seems to me the left has more to do with that than any other group.

      Come on lefties. Level with us what are you really afraid of here.

      Afraid of less government? Afraid of holding people accountable?

      Seems to me the biggest hot button issues you have are a passion for killing the unborn, gay marriage and spending other people's money.

      The last one you love so much you even spend our money to tell us how awesome you all are for wanting to spend even more of our money.

      That must be it. You're addicted to spending other people's money and behaving like a junkie whose about to lose his stash.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#21 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:41 AM EST
      madvargr

      You're projecting again.

      We are not AFRAID of Palin, more amazed that people are dumb enough to think she is anything other than over her head....

      But get her elected, I want to see how much you like living in Somalia after she's done with the US.

      • 7 votes
      #21.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:46 AM EST
      ScienceGuy-356641

      Disdain for Palin? No doubt.

      Fear of her? Not so much.

      • 6 votes
      #21.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:47 AM EST
      KitKat51

      Tom, You keep talking about people being fearful of Sarah. It's not fear.. she is just frickin funny. It's like watching the Rocky Horror Picture Show for the two hundredth time. You don't really want to... but you can't help yourself.

      • 4 votes
      #21.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:53 AM EST
      SkepticalThomas

      You are clearly in denial. You keep trying to convince everyone that she is a non entity then turn around and act entirely the opposite way. I don't take her seriously so I can't imagine why you would. Yet you comments seem to continually be directed at personal attacks on her. For example I haven't seen one policy disagreement based on her speech. Where's the beef?

      • 1 vote
      #21.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:55 AM EST
      SkepticalThomas

      Keep talking? Where you been? I asked a question regarding what one would rationally see as fear.

      But more to the point I asked what are YOU afraid of. Not of you could articulate a position other than you are not afraid.

      But clearly you are afraid of something. Less of other peoples money to spend? Fewer abortions? Fewer gays in the military? People uttering merry christmas? Hurting the feelings of people that are trying to kill you? Capitalism? Personal responsibility? The US constitution?

      Cause that what the left continuously espouses. Or do you just like to denigrate people for sport?

      • 1 vote
      #21.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:15 AM EST
      SH-2000

      The beef is that Palin speads lies, animosity & is trying to divide this nation further.

      • 6 votes
      #21.6 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:17 AM EST
      SkepticalThomas

      I think BHO has topped her in everyone of those categories.

      • 1 vote
      #21.7 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:20 AM EST
      SH-2000

      Source where he has. Please provide a video; because all I've seen is the president extend his hand across the aisle.You need more than just talking points Thomas.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u69-PF18hVQ

      • 5 votes
      #21.8 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:25 AM EST
      vol fan in chatt, tn

      he said in his first meeting - "I won" remember...so tough nuts. And since that time, I can't remember a single meeting he has had with them, up until the one a week and a half ago, can you?

      • 1 vote
      #21.9 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:42 AM EST
      John-1509117

      madvargr...... I want to see how much you like living in Somalia

      Obungler is seeing to that now.

      • 2 votes
      #21.10 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:15 PM EST
      SH-2000

      "I won" remember...so tough nuts. And since that time, I can't remember a single meeting he has had with them, up until the one a week and a half ago, can you?

      Super Bowl 09' was one time & others one on one. Yes, he said I won but he meant to say the MAJORITY won.

      • 4 votes
      #21.11 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:28 PM EST
      KitKat51

      Who are you talking to Tom? Me? For the record, I can't understand why anybody takes her seriously either Tom, but evidently some do. Too seriously. She didn't discuss any policies; she is unable to do so. I guess that's why so many stay interested. It is fun to watch a ship sink... in sort of a deranged kind of way.

      • 4 votes
      #21.12 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:24 PM EST
      vol fan in chatt, tn

      Oh, SH...dog gone it, you've gone and pulled a Robert Gibbs on us - telling us what he "meant to say".

      It is fun to watch a ship sink... in sort of a deranged kind of way.

      Can we use that line for Obama? Or would that be like "wanting him to fail"? Seriously, I don't want him to fail, but his policies pull us too far left - those policies I do want to fail.

      • 1 vote
      #21.13 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 2:44 AM EST
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      ScienceGuy-356641

      Another typical Palin speech -- long on snark, short on insight.

      • 9 votes
      Reply#22 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:41 AM EST
      SkepticalThomas

      Hard to believe that people that dislike Palin even listen to her speeches. I can't even stand the sound of her voice.

      • 2 votes
      #22.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:20 AM EST
      brightstarone

      SkepticalThomas,regarding post #22.1:

      Hard to believe that people that dislike Palin even listen to her speeches. I can't even stand the sound of her voice.

      ....and yet; you vigoriously defend her.

      btw - I agree with you, her voice is very annoying.

      • 5 votes
      #22.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:35 AM EST
      SkepticalThomas

      I'm not defending Palin. I asking questions of those who oppose her. The complaints and arguments just don't add up. It's a bit of mystery to me that people attack her so vigorously because she has a special needs child.

      I starting wonder if they don't have some special needs of their own.

      • 2 votes
      #22.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:42 AM EST
      brightstarone

      SkepticalThomas,regarding post #22.3:

      It's a bit of mystery to me that people attack her so vigorously because she has a special needs child.

      Please Thomas, that right there is a standard Palin Defenders talking point.

      "....because she has a special needs child."

      Really Thomas, you honestly believe that all of the criticisms of Saint Sara are because she has a "special needs child" that is an absurdly weak defense, you really are stretching it for a person whose voice sound you allegedly can't stand, aren't you? If not, then why do you vigorously use the same lame talking point that she and her followers use to defend her?

      What is wrong with just being honest and saying that you like Saint Sara and don't want to hear one word of criticism about her? Why are you pretending to be an objective hate the sound of her voice blogger? are you trying to sound credible or are you secretly ashamed? What's up with that Thomas?

      The reasons I am critical about your Saint Sara, have absolutely nothing to do with her "special needs child" as you Palin Defenders like to pretend so that you can miss-direct attention from the fact that there are many legitimate reasons and concerns about this "pretender to the throne" so to speak.

      Here are some of my concerns and criticisms about your precious Saint Sara:

      She is a polarizing divisive celebrity politician with no real substance.

      She does not truly believe in our union, she supported her husband and the America hating secessionist organisation that he belonged to for many years. An organisation whose founder said:

      "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to the hatred that I feel for America"

      She does not believe in our Republic as a whole, in her world some parts of America are good and some parts are bad. The good ones being the ones that voted for her ticket in '08. I vigorously dis-agree with Saint Sara on that one Thomas, I happen to believe that America is all good. Even the parts that voted against President Obama.

      I am not impressed with her foreign policy credentials, I think it takes more then just being able to see Russia from where you live to give you foreign policy credentials, don't you Thomas?

      She is a proven quitter, has been all her life. It took her 6 years to finish a 4 year college course because she kept changing schools. She quit her Governor position to cash in on her celebrity for money; ignoring her duty to the citizens of Alaska who voted her into office when she asked for their support.

      When Saint Sara speaks she puts out words to divide us with fear-mongering Fox Spin News propaganda....... "death panels....terrorist's....socialist's...etc, the usual un-original fear-mongering talking points that have been used again and again by the right wing extremist fringe.

      She is a user, with no integrity or honor. She will use anyone for her own purposes with out regard to the wrong or damage it may cause, Just like the ego-centric, attention starved, money whore that she is....etc.

      There is more that I could note, but I just wanted to show you that your bogus argument about the reason that drives the palin critics are; because of her special needs child. That is not the truth, there are many legitimate reasons for citizens to be critical of this person, who is trying to convince us that she is fit to be our commander and chief.

      • 3 votes
      #22.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:56 PM EST
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      janice-376027

      Another typical Tea party speech and comment - NO ideas, just red meat BS for their base. I watched a CNN reporter interviewing one of the main folks of the convention and of course he said "we are for small government" .... no follow up - now this is 5 words and a bit long for the crowd there to absorb so just make it small government. Nothing else is needed - no clarification on what specifically do you mean by this? Where would you cut or remove?

      Of course, you can just say "Obama (or Demorats) bad" staying within your two word limit. Typical of what I hear all the time - just complaining about socialism (with no idea what this word even means), taxes - again without realizing what they are talking about.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#23 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:51 AM EST
      ScienceGuy-356641

      "we are for small government"

      Simple mantras for simple minds.

      • 9 votes
      #23.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 10:59 AM EST
      SkepticalThomas

      We'd like to explain to you janice but I'm afraid you comprehension level does not allow us. Please try again later when you advance in adulthood.

      • 1 vote
      #23.2 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:00 AM EST
      cnotebutbrokeDeleted
      John-1509117

      janice-376027......I watched a CNN

      So what do you expect, unbiased reporting?

      • 1 vote
      #23.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:31 PM EST
      janice-376027

      Skeptical and cnote - I hate to be the one to tell you but I am quite capapble of understanding rational ideas and beliefs even if I disagree.

      WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC IDEAS? What would you cut in spending? What would you do to goose the job market? What would you do about trade deficit - particularly with China? What would you do about Afganistan? What would you do about GTMO? What would you do about regulation of banking?

      Your sarcasm and flip remarks are ALL I ever get from right wing people - never an answer to these 2 questions either:

      1) What problems has the GOP solved?

      2) What specific ideas does the GOP have to move America forward - banking regulation, emmissions, energy, jobs, health care, etc

      All I ever get is *crickets* as they say - resounding silence.....or Glen Beck/Rush Limbaugh/Malkin/Hannity/ talking points that are patently ludicrous and unhelpful

      • 4 votes
      #23.5 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:23 PM EST
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      William J. Brock

      Someone, please, please put her out of my misery!

      So she mocks the ideas of hope and change, and the baggers erupt into applause? Says a lot. She stands for no hope, no change. How sad they want to return to aworld where feudalism is the way of life. How backwards. Hoe REPUBLICAN!

      The next Dark Ages, here we come!

      • 8 votes
      Reply#24 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:33 AM EST
      SkepticalThomas

      False hope and false change deserve more than mockery.

      • 2 votes
      #24.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:37 AM EST
      cnotebutbrokeDeleted
      John-1509117

      William J. Brock.....Someone, please, please put her out of my misery!

      Are you calling for the killing of a US citizen? I think the moderators of this site might frown upon posters making statements like you just made. Matter of fact the FBI might be interested, William J. Brock.

        #24.3 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:39 PM EST
        William J. Brock

        cnote: Anyone ever complain that Reagan exploded the debt? How about W.? You are either too young to have any authority in what you say, or just not very smart.

        John: Blow me in pal! Chances are the FBI and CIA will want to know why you are distracting them from the things they need to do! Make my freakin' day! As well,maybe they know that someone who uses a number in their name might NOT want to be ID'd. Then there are those of us who have the ourage of their convictions. If you want to threaten me, use YOUR real name, coward!

        • 3 votes
        #24.4 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 8:08 PM EST
        John-1509117Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        William J. Brock.......John: Blow me in pal!

        Tyler, is this more of the liberal CoH? Why do you allow faggots to troll on your site?

          #24.5 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 8:48 AM EST
          William J. Brock

          Well, John, wrong again. I am married, w/two kids. And now you are engaged in hateful, non-productive posts. Sad, you must not be able to recognize yourself in the mirror.

            #24.6 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 8:55 AM EST
            brightstarone

            John-1509117,regarding post #24.5:

            Reported as inflammatory.

              #24.7 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:18 AM EST
              John-1509117

              William J. Brock.....Well, John, wrong again. I am married, w/two kids. John: Blow me in pal!

              Is that how you talk to or in front of them?

                #24.8 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:47 AM EST
                John-1509117

                brightstarone.......

                John-1509117,regarding post #24.5:

                Reported as inflammatory.

                Did you report #24.4 as inflammatory? "John: Blow me in pal!"

                  #24.9 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:59 AM EST
                  tyler

                  Are you calling for the killing of a US citizen? I think the moderators of this site might frown upon posters making statements like you just made

                  Doesn't read like advocacy for assassination or anything to me.

                  If you want to threaten me, use YOUR real name, coward!

                  Tyler, is this more of the liberal CoH? Why do you allow faggots to troll on your site?

                  William J. Brock, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.

                  John-1509117, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. You know the rules. Edging into last-chance territory.

                  And although this ended up being effective this time, it isn't really a good way to get in touch with me.

                  • 1 vote
                  #24.10 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 5:59 PM EST
                  tyler

                  John-1509117, you're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. You know the rules. Edging into last-chance territory.

                  Actually, we're already there, I didn't notice the other previous week suspension. You're suspended for a month.

                  • 1 vote
                  #24.11 - Mon Feb 8, 2010 6:42 PM EST
                  William J. Brock

                  John: If you get a chance to read this, understand that the term you complained about has nothing to do with sex, or obscenity. Sorry you got whacked by Tyler for your response to my dare, but let's face it, you did this to yourself. To "Blow someone in" means to tell on them, just as to "drop a dime" used to mean. If you kept your mind our of the gutter, you wouldn't be where you are now.

                    #24.12 - Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:12 PM EST
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                    zanilth

                    Indeed, Republican observers say she's seemingly done more lately to establish herself as a political celebrity focused on publicity rather than a political candidate focused on policy.

                    That reminds me of our current president's rise to elected (purchased) office

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#25 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:37 AM EST
                    SkepticalThomas

                    SH if you want to link earthquakes to man's presence her on earth then please remove yourself from this message board and seek immediate psychiatric help.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#26 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:49 AM EST
                    SH-2000

                    So because you have no debate, no proof to argue with, you resort to insult? Lol, let's see who will be removed from this board.

                    Tyler, can you please weigh in? Thanks!

                    • 4 votes
                    #26.1 - Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:49 PM EST
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