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Health law will make calorie counts hard to ignore

Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:06 AM EDT
politics, health, us, calories, on-menus, that-caesar
Mary Clare Jalonick, Associated Press

FILE - In this July 18, 2008 file photo, calories of each food item appear on a McDonalds drive-thru menu in New York. Calorie counts will have to be listed on restaurant menus under a provision tucked into the massive health care overhaul bill. (AP Photo/Ed Ou, File)

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WASHINGTON — That Caesar salad you're about to eat? It's 800 calories, and that's without the croutons. The fettuccine alfredo? A whopping 1,220 calories. You may choose to ignore the numbers, but soon it's going to be tough to deny you saw them.

A requirement tucked into the nation's massive health care bill will make calorie counts impossible for thousands of restaurants to hide and difficult for consumers to ignore. More than 200,000 fast food and other chain restaurants will have to include calorie counts on menus, menu boards and even drive-throughs.

The new law, which applies to any restaurant with 20 or more locations, directs the Food and Drug Administration to create a new national standard for menu labeling, superseding a growing number of state and city laws. President Barack Obama signed the health care legislation Tuesday.

The idea is to make sure that customers process the calorie information as they are ordering. Many restaurants currently post nutritional information in a hallway, on a hamburger wrapper or on their Web site. The new law will make calories immediately available for most items.

"The nutrition information is right on the menu or menu board next to the name of the menu item, rather than in a pamphlet or in tiny print on a poster, so that consumers can see it when they are making ordering decisions," says Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin, chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, who wrote the provision.

It was added to the health bill with the support of the restaurant industry, which is facing different laws from cities and states. Sue Hensley of the National Restaurant Association says it will help restaurants better respond to their customers.

"That growing patchwork of regulations and legislation in different parts of the country has been a real challenge, and this will allow operators to better be able to provide their information," she said.

Some meals will be exempt from the calorie counts, including specials on the menu less than 60 days, and other nutritional information in addition to calories will have to be available somewhere else in the restaurant.

The law will also apply to foods sold in vending machines, specifically those that do not have visible calorie listings on the front of the package. The requirements will be enforced by the FDA, with the possibility of criminal penalties if operations do not comply.

New York City was the first in the country to put a calorie posting law in place. Since then, California, Seattle and other places have done so.

The FDA will have a year to write the new rules, which health advocates have been pushing for years. Margo Wootan, director of nutrition policy at the Center for Science in the Public Interest, said it's one step in the fight against obesity.

"Coffee drinks can range from 20 calories to 800 calories, and burgers can range from 250 calories to well over 1,000 calories," she said.

Still, it's unclear what effect the labeling will have. In a study published last year by the online journal Health Affairs, only half of customers in poor New York City neighborhoods with high rates of obesity and diabetes noticed the calorie counts.

The accuracy of the counts could also be called into question, according to a different study.

In January, the Journal of the American Dietetic Association published a survey of 10 chain restaurants, including Wendy's and Ruby Tuesday, that said the number of calories in 29 meals or other menu items was an average of 18 percent higher than listed. The discrepancies were said to be due to variations in ingredients and portion sizes.

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Craig the Bright

After having a heart attack in Jan of 2010 I am now following a diet of: http://www.heartattackproof.com/ and finding it to be the answer to a lot of ailments. It's hard to follow the diet but definately the answer to better health.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:36 AM EDT
The Spirit

What if a restaurant does not do business across state lines? Another unconstitutional law.

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:07 AM EDT
Michael the Great

Another unconstitutional law.

As very recently shown in Congress, our country stopped following the constitution a long time ago. I'd put the start of it around FDR...

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:35 AM EDT
Samantha Joy

The law only applies to chains and other restaurants that *do* do business across state lines. That's what it says in the bill, and it says so right there in the article that you obviously didn't bother to read before forming an opinion that has nothing to do with the facts.

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:36 AM EDT
sjayne2355

Oh, Samantha Joy, the article only references the number of locations (20) nothing about state lines. It is conceivable that a small company could have 20 locations within a single state, so maybe the point is valid.

Facts are funny things, aren't they?

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:58 AM EDT
SUNNY SIDE

Craig the Bright -- good for you.

It is hard watching your diet. I had gestational diabetes during a pregnancy. I wasn't overweight, I just have a family propensity to get diabetes. The doc said, sorry but usually we get people to lose weight and you don't have any to lose so lets look at your diet because you have a high chance of getting it down the line. All my family diets properly without medication and non of us has developed the disease (type II). We just know that we can do what ever we want up to about a certain age (when we start seeing the signs of trouble) then its "get on the diet or else". I don't know about you, but when I started eating healthier I had tons more energy and to this day I feel great. It has been 2 years now since my doc told me my glucose levels were beginning to be a problem. The calorie counting and carbohydrate info is invaluable to me and my diet keeps me in the normal health range on cholesterol, glucose, and a whole host of other things. I've actually seen my doctor do a jig for me. :-) I'm now going to keep in mind the "18% higher calories than listed bit" on this seed.

    #1.5 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:36 PM EDT
    Samantha Joy

    Oh. Puh. Leaze.

    Tell ya what: You point to the in-state restaurant chain that cooks solely with ingredients grown in-state, that has more than fourteen but fewer than twenty locations, that is going to be prevented from expanding because of the unreasonableness of this requirement, and I will *personally* spearhead a legal fund on this chain's behalf.

    Go ahead. Name one.

    I'm waiting.

    *crickets*

    • 2 votes
    #1.6 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:44 PM EDT
    Javabean88

    I am just fine with this. I have had type 1 diabetes since i was 9 years old. I have always been very careful about what I put in my mouth for the most part and it is additionally helpful since I also take insulin. I do think it is helpful to know what you are eating, but I only think it will do good for some. I think a lot of people will just ignore it and eat the 2,000 calorie meal regardless. I do think those that do want to make changes should be given the opportunity to see that info in order to make proper food choices.

    • 1 vote
    #1.7 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:54 PM EDT
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    tommymaybewrongmayberight

    Well I don't know if this is good or not, don't get me wrong peple should have access to what is in the food when they eat out, however when these things are in place busniess sometimes loose busniess because the caliore count confuses people.

    I am also woried about the food police coming in, if your meal has to high a calorie or is cooked with something that may be fatting it should be made illegal. Or that if a person eats more then the goverment allouted callories they can be fined or taxed. That is a concern since now that we are all paying for healthcare the goverment can step in and tell obese people they are costing to much money and fine them if they don't loose weight, this scares me.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#2 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:41 AM EDT
    SUNNY SIDE

    I am also woried about the food police coming in, ...something that may be fatting it should be made illegal. Or that if a person eats more then the goverment allouted callories [alloted calories] they can be fined or taxed....

    ...busniess sometimes loose busniess because the caliore count confuses people.

    IMO the notion of gov't officials assigned to each individual American to follow them around to check your "individual alloted calories" is exaggerated. The gov't provides guidelines they don't mandate the number of calories you have to eat. In addition, it's handy to know that the salad you were about to order is nutritionally worse than the typical junk food fare. The wait staff I've encountered are always very helpful in getting the information, but now they don't have to spend the extra time doing that.

    IMO, Restaurants normally lose business because their food tastes crappy, their staff isn't keeping on top of their workload or bad location, not because they're fattening. I think you have an interesting point though about whether restaurants should be worried so I'll share a link with a video from the National Restaurant Association. http://restaurant.org/research/economy/rpi/America Their performance index and outlook are positive for 2010.

    I think those people that were never meant to carry the extra weight (which is most Americans now) should have an opportunity to figure out how to stop the spread of fat and disease. Those people that don't care are still gonna have all the greasy food they can pile on to their 10" plates and they'll still happily feast with abandon.

      #2.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:22 PM EDT
      Samantha Joy

      I am also woried about the food police coming in, if your meal has to high a calorie or is cooked with something that may be fatting it should be made illegal.

      Do you also lay awake night worrying that a giant space goat is about to eat the moon?

      • 2 votes
      #2.2 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:05 AM EDT
      TestAnxiety

      Do you also lay awake night worrying that a giant space goat is about to eat the moon?

      GAAhhh! Why hasn't anyone told me about The Space Goat???? OH! GAAAAhhhh!

      • 1 vote
      #2.3 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:22 PM EDT
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      hungary1956

      Food police are on there way.......it already started in a small way with Michelle.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#3 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:47 AM EDT
      bonos_rama

      Oh please. It's BAD for Michelle to tell people to watch their kids' weight? but it was okay for Nancy Reagan to tell people to watch their kids re: drugs? How is it different? While we are on it. why is it okay at all for the gov't to tell you you can get drunk off your ass every day, but yo u can't have marijuana or any other drug?

      Funny how people who complain about gov't tyranny always have some form of it that they embrace...like the "war on drugs".

      • 7 votes
      #3.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:33 AM EDT
      hungary1956

      It's actually bad for Michelle to tell us to do anything with our children.....mark my words, very soon food police, extra taxes on high calorie foods and drinks.......it's coming soon!

        #3.2 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:59 PM EDT
        TestAnxiety

        Well, there is already a "sweet tax" being passed around. I seeded it last week.

          #3.3 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:27 PM EDT
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          Sandy-1700397

          I'm glad to see this starting to happen. It will help some of us make better choices.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#4 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:57 AM EDT
          trm2008

          I guess some people don't think we should know what we're eating. I think its a good idea.

          • 4 votes
          #4.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:42 AM EDT
          Charles Kang

          Finally changes. In my opinion, we need to know what we are eating. This is the only way to help us make better choices.

          • 5 votes
          #4.2 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:16 PM EDT
          TestAnxiety

          I was making "better choices" before this happened. Personal Accountability, it really works!

          But for those that can't muster the courage, I agree that it helps. If nothing else, I don't see where it hurts.

          • 1 vote
          #4.3 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
          Reply
          mstanley2265

          Living on unemployment has tooo

          • 2 votes
          Reply#5 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:01 AM EDT
          Free Mason-1490678Deleted
          TestAnxiety

          I personally like seeing the calorie count.

          And I think it will open some peoples eyes. My co-worker was constantly complaining about gaining weight, feeling sluggish and not understanding how. So I went on line and pulled down the "nutrition" information for all the donuts he shoved in his gob everyday. He's a big guy, but was exceeding daily estimated calorie intake in donuts alone.

          I'm sure he was turning a blind eye, he knew that type of intake wasn't helping matters. But if he didn't know he learned and if he was ignoring it, having it in plain sight makes that more difficult to do. He cut back on donut rations and lo and behold started seeing progress in the direction he desired.

          Obesity is a "huge" problem in America. Correcting it starts with personal accountability. Some people need help even with that. Taking away excuses ("I didn't know...") is helping to empower a person into making that first, difficult step.

          But that's just what I think.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:09 AM EDT
          Checkmate-983933

          They put up the calorie count and there will be people who will still ignore it. Same with ingredients. Some food joints put the stuff online or in their restaurants and they give you the information. . .but people ignore it. I believe McDonald's has their calorie information online. I remember they used to have it on the sandwich boxes a few years ago.

          Hell, look on canned soup and see how much sodium is in a can. A LOT. Yet, people still buy it.

          Obesity is a "huge" problem in America. Correcting it starts with personal accountability. Some people need help even with that. Taking away excuses ("I didn't know...") is helping to empower a person into making that first, difficult step.

          This is true. My boss is constantly complaining about her weight, yet, she eats donuts, cake, etc. If I was on a diet, those would be the first things to go.

          The only thing that I believe with this calorie information is that it will be harder for people to sue restaurants for making them fat.

          • 2 votes
          #7.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:27 AM EDT
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          raymond-392453

          "My Liberty to Choose" on WHAT I WANT to eat is Being taken away" --- Yes ! The Liberty(Licence) to Act Incredibly Selfish,Irresponsible,& Sabotaging to yourself,Your loved ones, & the general Society that you live in --- Your Bad Health & Lifestyle choices(Smoking,Drinking & Drugging,Junk food Gluttony,etc are COSTING the Rest of us Big time --- No Wonder our Health Care Premiums are going through the roof !!! Pay Attention to what you are doing as far as making the Right Choices--- We're ALL in need of Restraining our bad Habits & Vices --- You might Live longer as a result !!!!!

          • 2 votes
          Reply#8 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:20 AM EDT
          Dog_Blue

          Living in this soon to be third world nightmare of a country who wants to live longer.

          • 3 votes
          #8.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:29 AM EDT
          raymond-392453

          "A Human being can Alter their life by Altering their ATTITUDES" -William James. Take notice of this Dog_Blue.

          • 2 votes
          #8.2 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:41 AM EDT
          Samantha Joy

          Oh Dog_Blue, that is written like a man who has never lived anywhere *but* a first world country and doesn't know what he's talking about.

          • 2 votes
          #8.3 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:46 PM EDT
          Dog_Blue

          Wrong Joyless. I had to work in every stinking third world crab hole on this planet and this country is becoming another one.

          • 2 votes
          #8.4 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:41 PM EDT
          Reply
          Colonial82

          I am happy this will happen. Some might still ignore the information, but then you can tell them they can use the excuse of "I didn't know" anymore. Other people's bad eating habits affect and rise my health care insurance premiums because we all share the costs. The more diabetes and heart surgeries rise all our rates. Why should I be responsible for other people's bad habits? People need to take responsibility for their lives and this will help them do that.

          Thank you and have a good day.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#9 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:05 AM EDT
          trm2008

          Just more whining about nothing. I rarely eat out, but I think it is good thing to know what you're eating. If someone doesn't care, they can ignore the information. What's the big deal?

          • 4 votes
          #9.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:44 AM EDT
          Colonial82

          trm, there is no big deal, they are just upset it passed.

          • 4 votes
          #9.2 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:49 AM EDT
          Al 616

          trm, there is no big deal, they are just upset it passed.

          Too true, Colonial82.

          • 3 votes
          #9.3 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:12 AM EDT
          bonos_rama

          Exactly, trm. The slobs will ignore it, and the rest of us will choose to be informed.

          • 5 votes
          #9.4 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:35 AM EDT
          Reply
          The Gunshark

          Well, this information is a positive step for people who want to eat right. But let me tell you something, if you want to lose weight, walk your fat ass past McDonald's.

          • 8 votes
          Reply#10 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:47 AM EDT
          Checkmate-983933

          This.

            #10.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:04 AM EDT
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            sjayne2355

            Wow, all of this comes down to two things, self control and personal responsibility.

            You have a personal responsibility to know what you are eating and how it may affect you. There is a whole world of information available without the Feds forcing companies to spend money to print it out for you. How have we managed all these years to get by without the Feds dictating to companies how to sell and merchandise their products?

            Let's face it, if you don't know what is in your food and don't care enough to find out, you aren't going to change your ways just because a sign says a donut is 600 calories.

            Okay, so now you know about the donut and you could use to loose a bit of weight, do you want the Feds to supply an agent in each store to take the donut away from you or say you can't buy the thing? No? Well, then you have to practice self control.

            All the knowledge and signage in the world is not going to reduce your waist line...you have to do that your self.

            Additionally, if I want to smoke, drink and eat myself into oblivion, that is my business alone. I am an adult and I have that right under the Constitution. If that is how I pursue happiness then stay out of my face. Everybody, but most especially, the Feds.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#11 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT
            trm2008

            You can still smoke, drink and eat yourself into oblivion if you wish. How does this change anything? This whole uproar is just a bunch of childish nonsense.

            • 5 votes
            #11.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:31 AM EDT
            Checkmate-983933

            Let's face it, if you don't know what is in your food and don't care enough to find out, you aren't going to change your ways just because a sign says a donut is 600 calories.

            Agreed. Look at portion sizes: a small can of Campbell's soup (the kind that you add water to) has a serving of like 2. One can for 2 people. How many eat the entire canful? Now, you have to times the calorie information times 2. Chances are, they don't care.

            It is about self control and personal responsibility as you say.

            • 3 votes
            #11.2 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:34 AM EDT
            bonos_rama

            sjayne, how are you going to find out a restaurant's meal has 1250 calories in it unless they TELL YOU? you say "personal responsibility", but most restaurants aren't putting that information on the web freely. So you tell me how we are supposed to magically know whether a dish served to us has 500, 800 or 1200 calories? If you don't want to know, don't look. If , you do see it, and still wish to order it, go ahead. But don't take OUR ability to know and choose away.

            • 2 votes
            #11.3 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:39 AM EDT
            sjayne2355

            bonos,

            If you have a basic knowledge of food and nutrition (as I stated, an easily gained knowledge with all the info available at your finger tips), you should be able to deduce the caloric value of a meal on a menu. Anybody should know the basics.

            Anything fried is higher in calories than something baked or steamed. Anything with a cream or butter sauce is higher in calories than something served with out sauce.

            Deserts should be off your diet if you are concerned. Same for sodas, white bread or white starches in general. Sticking to green leafy veggies, grilled or steamed chicken or fish and skipping salad dressings will keep you pretty close to good in most cases. Pay attention to the serving sizes and don't add additional salt and you can eat just about anywhere.

            See, that's not too hard, is it? I did all of that without consulting a calorie guide printed on a menu.

            • 3 votes
            #11.4 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:06 PM EDT
            trm2008

            sjayne-Do you expect the restaurant to give you a recipe so you can figure out what they put in the food you are eating? That's communism.

            • 2 votes
            #11.5 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:23 PM EDT
            sjayne2355

            No, trm,

            I know what I am eating by the description in the menu...

            If you have no knowledge of food or cooking, I guess you need cheat sheets when you eat out. Educated palates do just fine without info. How do you prepare food at home? Most recipes I use don't have calorie counts, but I intrinsically know when something is either high in calories or not.

            Maybe some people should stay home and eat out of boxes...then you can rest assured you are safe.

            • 3 votes
            #11.6 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:01 PM EDT
            trm2008

            How I cook at home and how its cooked in a restaurant may be miles apart. I rarely go out to eat because my husband prefers my cooking. Don't assume you know anything about me--you don't. I glad you have such infinite knowledge of caloric content. You must be proud of yourself.

            • 2 votes
            #11.7 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:07 PM EDT
            sjayne2355

            trm,

            I'm not assuming anything about you, God forbid. My only point is that there is so much information available that it seems ridiculous that it is necessary for the Federal government to enact laws for something, yet again, that should be common sense and common knowledge to the majority of people.

            This country is weight obsessed...children are anorexic and bulimic at very early ages. I know 4 year olds who think they are fat! If we would teach our children by example, there would be no such thing as obesity in this country. We must first educate ourselves and share it with our families. Easy as pie (which you can have in moderation!).

            Especially, since you cook at home, you should still be able to figure from the menu roughly what the caloric values might be. The cooking method alone should be a basic start.

            I am either underestimating the smarts of the American people or their drive and abilities. If I have offended you, please forgive me.

            • 1 vote
            #11.8 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:51 PM EDT
            trm2008

            My late husband was a severe diabetic. This information would be invaluable to anyone with similar conditions. I think it is a good thing to know what you are eating. If you don't want or need the information, ignore it.

            • 2 votes
            #11.9 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:05 PM EDT
            Javabean88

            Gee whiz sjayne--it is just nutrition information. You are making a huge leap--no federal agents will be snatching food from the fat people or telling you perhaps you shoudln't have that piece of pie. It is just there to make it easier for those who care. Those that don't will still eat until one airplane seat equals one buttcheek. That is not to say I don't agree with you that it doesn't take that much brain power to figure out what is healthy and what is high calorie. I have had type 1 diabetes since I was 9 and I am on insulin--I find that info valuable. I don't think it hurts for everyone to know what they are eating and to not give them any excuses for "not knowing".

            • 1 vote
            #11.10 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:23 AM EDT
            sjayne2355

            How much money do you think this helpful sevice from the Feds will add to your food? Imagine the cost to update menus at places like McDonalds. Don't you think that cost will be pasted on to you?

            • 1 vote
            #11.11 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:38 PM EDT
            Reply
            Jixer

            I think it's hilarious how people have to have everything spelled out for them...you know what I'm talking about. Things like hot coffee is hot and it might burn your crotch. Or hey stupid, don't drink this bottle of pine sol, it might kill you.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#12 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:40 PM EDT
            sjayne2355

            My favorite, don't use the blow dryer in the shower!

            • 2 votes
            #12.1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:52 PM EDT
            Checkmate-983933

            On a bag of peanuts: Warning: Contains nuts.

            . . .well I hope so! What else would it be?

            • 3 votes
            #12.2 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:59 PM EDT
            Samantha Joy

            Checkmate: It might be legumes, since peanuts aren't nuts of any sort. They're legumes.

            People who are allergic to nuts aren't necessarily allergic to peanuts, and thus it's helpful for them to be told that the package of non-nutty product they are holding might actually contain something that can kill them.

            • 2 votes
            #12.3 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:59 PM EDT
            Javabean88

            I like how strollers remind you to remove your child before folding it back up. We tried that scrubbing bubbles shower cleaner (it spritzes around automatically at the push of a button)--it made sure we knew it wasn't a body wash and not to stand under it instead of bathing. It is silly.

            • 1 vote
            #12.4 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:29 AM EDT
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            jd-sb

            I don't think it's going to make a bit of difference. Americans can't seem to grasp the negative consequences of being overweight. It's all about choices. What you choose to put in your body every day. Are you going to make healthy living a priority in your life?

              Reply#13 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:58 PM EDT
              malz87

              Personally, I think its a good idea. I know with me, if I see something has a lot of calories and fats, etc, I usually steer away from them. I also understand that a person can watch their diet and excerise, but still have a weight issues. But, by trying to create a better awareness of what one person is consuming while eating may help with the obesity problem that is currently happening.

              That's just my opinon.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#14 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:06 PM EDT
              AMphoto

              It should be common information for everyone to see. However, I don't think it will change much of anything. People are happy going through life being oblivious about what they are putting into their bodies--the people that do care do their research and decide from there. It's easy to underestimate caloric contents, so these guidelines are good tools for people trying to lose weight. BUT, if weight loss is an issue, people shouldn't even be considering fast food. Advocating home cooked meals would be smarter.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#15 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:40 PM EDT
              Lindsey-1136689

              Let me get this straight......we're passing a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president who also hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke.

              What could possibly go wrong????

              • 2 votes
              Reply#16 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:21 PM EDT
              raymond-392453

              Sure, You are at "Liberty" to Indulge your vices --- But WHY should i Pay for your Soda Drinking,Smoking & Twinky Eating Ways when your LACK of Self-Control & Good judgement will lead to you being Obese with Clogged Arteries and full blown Diabetes which I will have to PAY with higher Premiums on MY Insurance !!!!! A Lot of Americans have Poor health Habits due to very low self-Image because they Don't Give a Damn about Themselves or Anybody Else !!!

                Reply#17 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:13 PM EDT
                NB25

                i've wanted this to happen for a while.  now that i'm eating better and have become a calorie counter, i've been able to lose quite a bit of weight.  AND alot of that has to do with knowing the calorie counts of resturant food.  i used to eat a cetain meal at a place frequently, until i found out it was 1400 calories!!!! not even counting the sides.  my "educated guess" would have been half like, 700 at most.  so now i'm more likely to go to restaurants that provide the info.  i think its a good thing. 

                the only reason people get mad about this is because they want to remain blissfully ignorant.  but many people dont.

                  Reply#18 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:05 AM EDT
                  hungary1956

                  If people cared about the calorie count then they would check out the calorie count before hitting the chain restaurants. Most of them have the nutritional information posted on their site...simple to access online. Some post the meal that are lighter and under a certain calorie range, you just need to look on the menu.

                  What does this health law do??? This law will cost struggling restaurants even more money to reprint menus, get nutritional information on dishes we all know are high in calories which all costs more money. Fact is that these restaurants are struggling to stay afloat in this economy and the people that work in these restaurants are struggling as well.

                  Cost of analyzing calories can cost $150 per menu item. Then, there is the changing of menus and menu boards, which could cost approx $200,000 to the restaurant.

                  Another issue will the new law encourage standardization by making it hazardous for owners not to prescribe and control, e.g., precisely how much topping local employees are to spread on each sandwich or pizza. Having it your way ....maybe a thing of the past because they will have a problem with varying your order in the least little bit, as that may make the calorie count off, causing law suits from the usual suspects.

                  All which will cost the restaurant more and more.....in this struggling economy where Americans need jobs.

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                  Reply#19 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:11 AM EDT
                  NB25

                  the responsible places post their calories online, but not all places. even a list posted on the door would help a little. like i said, its very hard to "guess" the nutrition. its way worse than most people guess.

                    #19.1 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:22 PM EDT
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