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AP sources: Obama to announce new health benefits

Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:01 PM EDT
politics, health, us, obama, barack-obama, overhaul
Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Associated Press

President Barack Obama speaks about fatherhood at a Father's Day event at the Town Hall Education Arts and Recreation Campus (THEARC) theater in Washington, Monday, June 21, 2010. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama on Tuesday will announce new health insurance benefits for consumers, marking the first 90 days since he signed landmark legislation to expand coverage.

The announcement will follow a private meeting between administration officials, several state insurance commissioners, and CEOs of major insurance company, amid concerns over continued premium hikes, the White House said. Obama is expected to attend at least part of the session.

Consumers who buy their policies directly faced increases averaging 20 percent this year, according to a survey released Monday by the Kaiser Family Foundation. Although most Americans are covered on the job, about 14 million purchase insurance on the individual market and have the least bargaining power when it comes to costs.

Obama's announcement will cover regulations to implement a so-called patient's bill of rights provided under the new law, said administration allies who were briefed in advance and spoke on condition of anonymity ahead of the official announcement.

The consumer safeguards are limited steps that take effect this year. The main provisions of the legislation, including federal funding to help 32 million now uninsured get coverage, won't come until 2014. The administration worries that escalating premiums will force more people drop their policies before the law is fully implemented.

Obama foreshadowed parts of his announcement last week, telling a nurses' group that the patient bill of rights would include the elimination of lifetime dollar limits on coverage, a particular problem for people dealing with hard-to-treat types of cancer. Insurance companies would be prohibited from canceling the policies of people who get sick, he added. And health plans would be required to provide consumers with simple and clear information about their choices and rights.

The law also calls for other safeguards to be put in place this year, including allowing women to pick an ob-gyn specialist as their primary care doctor and forbidding insurers from denying coverage to children on account of a previous medical problem. Protection against insurance denials would extend to adults in 2014, when most Americans would be required to carry coverage.

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http://www.healthreform.gov

© 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Greg Johnson-900798

Obama is expected to attend at least part of the session.

If he sticks to his M.O. that means he'll show up long enough for a photo to be taken.

  • 14 votes
#1 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:20 PM EDT
Mike Rupert

What kind of comment is that, Greg?

  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:37 PM EDT
taao

I'm going to go with "typed".

I'm sure we will have all sorts of new and exciting Health Benefits that will not raise our taxes! Obama be praised. Ooops wait a minute Obama was the one that announced the new health benefits? Not an aide or a patsy? S**t!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdKmc9aBELM

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:47 PM EDT
Frank BlackDeleted
Jimster

I'm sure we will have all sorts of new and exciting Health Benefits that will not raise our taxes!

Given the choice; would you rather have higher taxes or be dead? Hopefully you don't have to face that dilemma, but for some these changes will be life-saving.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:36 PM EDT
taao

So you are saying without Obamacare I'll die!?!?! (Gasp) Oh thank you Lord Obama for raising my taxes cause I would die without you doing that. Oh wait I'm insured and already pay my own way. My bad Lord Douchebag Obama.

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:48 PM EDT
merleliz

Given the choice; would you rather have higher taxes or be dead?

You mean I will get to choose? I thought it was mandated.

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:49 PM EDT
Lola-984242

My taxes haven't been raised, in fact they've been lowered a bit. However my husband and I paid over $10k last year in health care premiums and co-pays. This you we're looking at over $15K if not more.

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:57 PM EDT
A Sergeant's Mom

1.5 - some might, taao. I do not mean any disrespect, however the situation is that grave in many cases. This is precisely where the President has authority to oversee the condition of the nation in enforcing laws that will preserve the health of the majority of the citizens of the United States. He is not overstepping his boundaries in this.

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:58 PM EDT
taao

And that becomes my responsibility how Mom? So since your taxes havent been raised how much have a benefit have you recieved from Obamacare Lola thus far? Oh wait it hasn't started yet has it.

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:08 AM EDT
Lola-984242

Glad you could answer you own question taao.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:18 AM EDT
JoulesBeef

people grandparents are out of the doughnut hole the right would put them back in.
young mothers with sick babies wont have their babies banned from insurance for life for a "pre existing condition" when it is born. THe right would tell the baby to get a job.

people who are sick, wont have to worry about losing their job for longer than they can afford cobra

and what the right want everyone to forget, we have always had universial health care, it is called emergency care, which we all pay for and it 100 times more expensive than going to a general practitioner.
and basically obama privatized emergency care to make it cheaper on all of us.

  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:55 AM EDT
taao

Glad you could be a Liberal Lola...whats that word that you guys use all the time...oh yeah deflecting. But unlike the benefits that haven't started we have seen the new tax forms.

  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:33 AM EDT
Chris in VA

I agree with Greg. How can Obama claim to be for healthcare when he was only periphereally involved in the debate and now only attends part of a meeting about new healthcare benefits.

Pelosi and Reid need to speak out and take credit for healthcare reform since they are the ones who did all of the real work in getting it passed.

More and more Obama comes across a figurehead, an occassional mouthpiece, and totally uninterested in the day-to-day work--Who knows, maybe he does just want to be a one term president by choice?

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT
Lola-984242

Glad you could be a Liberal Lola...

taao - Hmm........Could it be true? LOL! It's funny how some posters attempt to insult by questioning which party you belong to or calling you a Liberal. taao, I'm an independent and have voted in the past for Republicans, Democrats, Independents and Liberals. But at this time, you could very well insult me by calling me a Republican, that bring chills up my spine, yikes! After watching the childish antics of the Republican party for the last 2 years and the disastrous past Administration, I don't believe I'll ever be able to vote for a Republican again in my lifetime.

whats that word that you guys use all the time...oh yeah deflecting. But unlike the benefits that haven't started we have seen the new tax forms.

Yes I suppose delusional thinking and hallucination can be awful thing as you age.

  • 1 vote
#1.14 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:40 AM EDT
taao

Awww the old I'm an Independent. Thats right up there with "Blame Bush" and "Its all Republicans fault." You do know what an Independent is Lola since Obama took the reins? Its a Liberal who does not have the ba...with all due respect to your gender. The fortitude to be honest with themselves or take a stance.

  • 1 vote
#1.15 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:16 AM EDT
Greg Johnson-900798

Mike Rupert - It's the kind of comment made by someone who pays enough attention to barack obama to know that he's an empty suit and a pretender. He isn't BEING President, he's just PLAYING President.

    #1.16 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:05 PM EDT
    Lola-984242

    taao- You do know what an Independent is Lola since Obama took the reins? Its a Liberal who does not have the ba...with all due respect to your gender. The fortitude to be honest with themselves or take a stance.

    That would be your opinion taao, and just like an a$$hole everybody has one. Hey like I said before, you can call me anything but a republican.

      #1.17 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:34 PM EDT
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      Rhazes

      In Michigan my premium went up 56% since the health care bill. Unless, his benefits actually lower my costs I can't afford them.

      • 11 votes
      Reply#2 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:44 PM EDT
      The Spirit

      How much are the new "benefits" going to cost us?

      • 5 votes
      Reply#3 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:52 PM EDT
      taao

      Not sure but it probably won't cost us a dime seeing as how last week he gave Brazil 2 billion for deep sea oil drilling and this week promised the enemies of our ally Israel, the Palestinians 400 million. So I am sure it will not cost us a dime since we have all this extra money to throw around. But I do know one thing...if any Republican trys to block anything he puts through it will be for the sake of pure obstructionism, not due to the fact that we are f***ing broke!

      • 6 votes
      #3.1 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:25 PM EDT
      Dave in NM

      Why "block" things, taao, rather than fixing things? For all their baseless whining about being "shut out" of negotiations, the Republican'ts have been a dry well where actual usable ideas are concerned.

      • 3 votes
      #3.2 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:05 PM EDT
      The Spirit

      The government does not have a dime of its own. It all comes from us -- the taxpayers.

      • 1 vote
      #3.3 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:20 AM EDT
      JoulesBeef

      actually spirit you dont have a dime of your own, everyone comes from the us mint.

      Governments arent free and governments create the rules for the market and protect that market through a frame work of military and courts. It costs money.

      If you want a government with it's "own money" and no taxes we could go commie for ya spirit.. where the government owns the corp and takes it;s money before you get paid, pretty much making life tax free for every class.

      Governments dont steal from you spirit, they charge a fee to participate in the market they created.

      • 2 votes
      #3.4 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:58 AM EDT
      chucky1169469

      The Spirit

      The government does not have a dime of its own. It all comes from us -- the taxpayers.

      This statement makes it clear to what conservatives think. You want government to come out of its pocket to take care of you without you paying the government anything(taxes). Where would the money come from to repair roads bridges? Where would money come from to pay for our military? Conservatives seem to forget, America is not free. you have to pay to live here. you cant just make YOUR money and keep it to yourself. America does not work that way. America is a giant house...and you have to pay rent.

      • 2 votes
      #3.5 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:43 AM EDT
      taao

      How is sending that money to Brazil and Palestine fixing anything in this country Dave? Oh you were going for the whole deflecting thing wern't you? My bad would you prefer I start over? Do you need time out to get a teleprompter?

      Love the whole Joules and chuck thing...

      you cant just make YOUR money and keep it to yourself.

      Spread the wealth baby! How dare you think you can earn YOUR money and then you really think you are going to be allowed to keep it Spirit? There are to many street panderers out there awaiting their free hand out for what you earned.

      Hmmm doesn't sound like socialism to me. (sarcasm)

        #3.6 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:43 AM EDT
        Greg Johnson-900798

        It doesn't matter how much your 'benefits' are going to cost. There won't be enough doctors or hospital beds to go around because there won't be enough money to provide services. There will be plenty of money to pay exhorbitant salaries to the friends of obama who will be given jobs administering the program.

          #3.7 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:08 PM EDT
          Fla Pat

          It doesn't matter how much your 'benefits' are going to cost. There won't be enough doctors or hospital beds to go around because there won't be enough money to provide services

          So what would be your solution to provide basic health care for fellow Americans who financially cannot afford to pay the escalating premiums? Do we just pretend to not see them as we have for decades?

          • 1 vote
          #3.8 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:45 PM EDT
          Reply
          Rixar13

          The administration worries that escalating premiums will force more people drop their policies before the law is fully implemented.

          Insurance companies still have citizens by the bag until all kicks in approximately four years. I hate insurance companies.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#4 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:56 PM EDT
          Elaine-1503791

          I have high hopes for all this to be a good thing. My company has dropped our health insurance effective July 1st and I can't afford to pick it up. My disabled boyfriend hasn't seen a doctor since the election in Nov 08 and has been told he'll be covered in 2014. I'm healthy thank goodness, but he's dying of congestive heart failure and MS. I just hope for something good for everyone. I think Obama's heart is in the right place on this, but I know insurance companies have no heart at all.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#5 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:58 PM EDT
          Little Sure Shot

          Don't hold your breath waiting.

          • 1 vote
          #5.1 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:22 PM EDT
          JoulesBeef

          have you applied for medicaid?
          what state you live in?

          • 1 vote
          #5.2 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:59 AM EDT
          Elaine-1503791

          I haven't applied for medicaid, I work fulltime so I don't think I qualify. Louisiana

          • 1 vote
          #5.3 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:09 AM EDT
          Lola-984242

          Elaine-1503791 - I haven't applied for medicaid, I work fulltime so I don't think I qualify. Louisiana

          But can your boyfriend apply for medicaid? He most certainly should qualify. You're not married to him right?

          • 1 vote
          #5.4 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:57 AM EDT
          Elaine-1503791

          It's kind of a long story....no we aren't married and we don't live together either. I would but he feels like he is too sick to live with anyone and would be a burden on me.

          But to answer your question, he WAS on medicaid up until Nov 08, he ISN'T on medicaid anymore. He has been disabled since 1986.

          You are very kind to care and it's touched my heart.

          • 3 votes
          #5.5 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:14 AM EDT
          Lola-984242

          Elaine-1503791 - Please try to get him to reapply and he has to get well again, don't let him slip into a depression. My ex-husband is going through something similar right now and it kills me to see the pain and helplessness in my daughters eyes. Get him moving forward. I hate when this stuff happens to our citizens. We consider ourselves the greatest country on earth, we must live up to that belief!

            #5.6 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:21 AM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            Lola, this is very harsh for me to tell you because you are caring and kind......but he is chronic and they've already told him to "write a will, check himself into a nursing home, and say goodbye". He's just fighting with all his strength to stay alive right now and in his own home.

            When he is well enough we laugh and play Scrabble, and we're trying to enjoy what we can of each day that he is still alive.

            You're very sweet and thank you. I will remember you, your husband and your daughter in my prayers. All I can say is God help us all.

            • 1 vote
            #5.7 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:27 AM EDT
            Reply
            super-1286077

            Um I hope this healthcare bill works just as good as cash for clunkers and the Mortgage Relief bill which really helped a whole lot of ppl. And the stimulus bill that kept us at 8 percent and of course medicare which is really an award winning example of government run healthcare.  I really hope that all of this works. 

            • 4 votes
            Reply#6 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:01 PM EDT
            JoulesBeef

            teh stimulous saved 1500 teachers in my state alone, not to mention firefighters and police. It also keep the unemployed getting checks so they can come and shop at my store.

            they right wing wants you to forget they caused this and would gladly have even more out of work.

            • 1 vote
            #6.1 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:00 AM EDT
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            hjgjhgbjhDeleted
            Atticus Finch-1905881Deleted
            Metal Guitarist

            "Protection against insurance denials would extend to adults in 2014, when most Americans would be required to carry coverage."

            Of course, the pro-"life" Republicans in Congress oppose this because they want to kill as many "undesirables" as possible-those who have disabilities, those who with A.I.D.S. and those have been made sick by corporations like British Petroleum.

            • 6 votes
            Reply#9 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            That's just what I don't understand. My undesirable disabled boyfriend had medicaid, monthly appointments with an internal medicine doctor, a prescription card, and regular MS treatments up until Nov 08 when it was all cut off. Now he won't see another doctor until 2014.....if he makes it.

            • 4 votes
            #9.1 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:52 PM EDT
            taao

            http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28605888/

            A mind...such a terrible thing to waste.

            • 3 votes
            #9.2 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:00 PM EDT
            Lola-984242

            Elaine-1503791 - My undesirable disabled boyfriend had medicaid, monthly appointments with an internal medicine doctor, a prescription card, and regular MS treatments up until Nov 08 when it was all cut off.

            That's bu!! sh!t Elaine, why would they cut him off? If anyone needs health care assistance it's your boyfriend. Even if he or you could afford health care insurance for him he'd be denied because of a pre-existing condition. I don't understand the problem. Very sad

            • 3 votes
            #9.3 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:38 PM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            Not bull sh!t, true story.

            • 1 vote
            #9.4 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:10 AM EDT
            Rixar13

            Critics say money could be better spent
            She says the money would be better spent on strengthening African health care systems rather than focusing on a single disease.

            taao

            Maybe his mom Barbra coerced him to help here...?

            • 1 vote
            #9.5 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:00 AM EDT
            taao

            Hyuk, Hyuk, yeeeeeehaaaa that must be it Rixar! Even better I bet it wasn't really Bush at all! It must have been the supreme commander using his extraordinary powers of time travel. Obamas done gone and invented himself one of those fancy new fangled durn thangs!

            http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/8/9/9/i/5/4/5/o/DocWho.jpg

            • 2 votes
            #9.6 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:12 AM EDT
            Lola-984242

            Elaine-1503791 - Not bull sh!t, true story.

            I'm not questioning your story what-so-ever Elaine, I just can't believe they'd leave your boyfriend high and dry like that. I was wonder why reason they gave for turning him away. Trust me, I completely believe what you're saying.

            • 2 votes
            #9.7 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:47 AM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            Oh, sorry Lola and thank you. I know, I've been crying and upset for him since Nov 08 when it happened. I even made a huge mistake of writing to the governor's office in this state and letting them know what I think of they way they are treating the disabled and gave them my boyfriends name. They immediately sent an investigator who gave him ten kinds of hell and accused him of abusing the system etc., and threatened to put him in jail. My boyfriend may be poor and disabled but he is from here and knows people too....the investigator ended up being fired for his bully tactics. My boyfriend said "someone wrote to the State about me" and I didn't even have the heart to say it was me. I never dreamed they'd do the opposite of what I was asking.....I asked for help and they sent a bull dog. I've stayed out of it ever since, my boyfriend is a private person and I learned my lesson which is....never write to the governor about anything....period.

            It's just a sad situation and as the State medicaid office keeps telling my boyfriend, nobody can do anything about it. They tell him the health care starts back up in 2014 and that is all there is to it. And they say "hang in there".

            • 4 votes
            #9.8 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
            Lola-984242

            Elaine-1503791 - I cannot get my jaw off of the floor! WTF! Jindal did this? That may explain everything right there.

            My boyfriend said "someone wrote to the State about me" and I didn't even have the heart to say it was me.

            Oh bless your heart. No good deed ever goes unpunished huh?

            They tell him the health care starts back up in 2014 and that is all there is to it. And they say "hang in there".

            It just doesn't seem right. Sounds to me like typical "party of no" tactics, getting people angry over what our President is attempting to do for the betterment of the American people. Perhaps you should write the President or a Democratic Representative from your state? But I'm sure you've already considered that.

            • 2 votes
            #9.9 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:29 AM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            Yeah, I'm pretty mad about it but I've learned to keep my mouth shut and stay out of it. I thought I was helping and look what happened, and I would die if my boyfriend found out it was me that did it. I'm not a fan of Jindal anymore. I'm not even sure he knows what the goon squad did, but he must know if his office sent them.

            • 4 votes
            #9.10 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:47 AM EDT
            Lola-984242

            Your boyfriend's situation and what's happened to both of you is truly sad Elaine. I'm so sorry and wish both of you the best. I'm praying something with change for him.

            • 2 votes
            #9.11 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:52 AM EDT
            Rixar13

            . I'm not a fan of Jindal anymore. I'm not even sure he knows what the goon squad did, but he must know if his office sent them.

            Elaine-1503791

            I'm so sorry for yours and boyfriend's situation, I wish I could help but the name Jindal leads my inference that your in Louisiana. I despise Republicans and they would probably come to Florida to get me if I wrote on his behalf... Vote out Republicans and good luck. How do they sleep at night???

            • 2 votes
            #9.12 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:30 PM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            Hey thanks Rixar and everybody here who has expressed kindness toward my boyfriend's situation. Please don't write any letters, it was a disaster when I did. I really appreciate all of you but I feel kind of bad now that I've brought everybody down. If it helps to lift your spirits, my boyfriend is a fighter and he is trying his best to beat the odds. We've only been together for 5 years and right when we got together, he was told he only had six months to live. That's when they told him to write a will, say goodbye and check into a nursing home. But he says my healthy lifestyle (which I share all knowledge that I have with him), my laughter and joy has made him want to live. And he's already beat the odds. The only difference is he had medical help then, he doesn't now and won't until 2014.....if he makes it.

            Again everybody, I'm overwhelmed with the kindness of all of you. It's lifted my spirits since on another article someone...and I won't say who....made fun of me and my boyfriend and it really hurt. Not for me, but for him. I told them they were an ass for laughing at a disabled persons inability to get medical help.....and then I felt better. But it made me feel like I said too much and shouldn't have opened myself up like that. All of you have changed my mind and something in your caring gives me hope for our country in general. Not everybody is mean and heartless and you've proven it. Thank you.

            • 2 votes
            #9.13 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:46 PM EDT
            Reply
            Burlap Mudflap

            Good job Barry, get'er done!

            • 3 votes
            Reply#10 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:40 PM EDT
            Fla Pat

            My employer provided health insurance premiums have gone up 20 to 27% annually for as long as I can remember. Thank god I work for a company willing to share the increases and continue to provide the insurance.

            If nothing in my situation changes - cost continue to rise - but many millions of Americans who have never been able to afford insurance for themselves or their kids can now be covered, I think it is a win for America!

            • 3 votes
            Reply#11 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:46 PM EDT
            Smokie-788412

            I think this is a lot of crap. Obama can have his health insurance plan and take it with him when he leaves. All this has done is cost all of us more money and reduced services. He and the dummies in Congress have have done nothing but create another entitlement plan to pay for and we can not afford the ones we have now. So are you ready to pay for the insurance that you not have until 2013? How about an additional $500 billion dollars of new taxes or Medicare-Medicaid being cut by $500 billion dollars??? That's what we will get and it's coming soon.

            I would like to put Obama in a cell at GITMO for 90-days maybe he will see the light then?

            • 2 votes
            Reply#12 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:18 PM EDT
            Patriot 8888

            I think that people will be in for a rude awakening when the bill actually kicks in. Let's just hope that it never sees the light of day! The cost is not nearly as rosy as the CBO was led to believe by Obama and Co. The medicare fix was taken out of the bill in order to have the score pass CBO to keep it under $1 Trillion. Unfortunately, when it comes time to actually pay the bill, we will be broke!

            • 1 vote
            Reply#13 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:28 PM EDT
            Smokie-788412

            Patriot 8888--------I agree with you completely. Sorry I got long winded and I can not stand this program. This will not help but rather harm our present system.

            People forgot that the Doctor Fix that they are talking about today was pulled out of the original proposed health insurance reform because of the cost factor. Now they are trying to pass a new deal to pay for the cuts to the doctor fix through another bill that will raise our taxes and/or debit. The many Medicare Advantage Plans that are out there now will be gone soon. That means these people will be thrown back into a plan that is very hard to use because of the out of pocket expenses. Plus you need to add the extra $500 billion of new taxes for all of us to pay for the new plan. Don't forget we still have to fund Medicare-Medicaid, Social Security, Disability and Supplement Security Income. Then we still have to contend with 12-14 million illegal immigrants that use our social systems. So what in the world do we have left.

            Obama-Care might be a good idea for some but to the rest of us it will an added expenses we can not afford. So before we compare benefits, that we do not know any of the details of until 2013 or what the monthly cost will be, all we can do is guess? So you can pay for this program until 2013 and still ave no idea what so ever as to what you will get when it finally becomes a plan we can touch. Do you or any of you trust this President or this Congress enough to put your money, time and health in their hands. Remember that this plan will not start until 2013. So what ever you have now you will have to maintain plus pay for the new plan that you can not use. Remember you have no choice in the matter you will participate of the ITS will come to collect. You have lost that right as an American Citizen.

            That call this a good deal??? They have been smoking some heavy dope in Washington since Obama moved into the neighborhood.

            • 1 vote
            #13.1 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:21 AM EDT
            Reply
            A Sergeant's Mom

            I believe this means that the notion is to heighten attention to the health care being withheld from patients requiring medical treatment, particularly those who cannot afford it.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#14 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:36 PM EDT
            merleliz

            The administration worries that escalating premiums will force more people drop their policies before the law is fully implemented.

            Duh! You think?

            Of course that means that a whole lot of people will be paying the Infernal Revenue Service those additional "fines" that Obama has mandated for those people who lose their insurance...so what does the government care?

            The whole health insurance thing was just a way to slip over a major tax increase. No public option, no limits on what premiums insurance companies can charge...but penalties for "non-compliance" with the new law...people losing coverage as they become unemployed...people unable to afford coverage now...people are going to be even less able to afford it by 2014 with rampant unemployment and a stagnant economy...how hard is it to figure out who really benefits from this law?

            And Obama will be gone from the scene and sitting pretty with a guaranteed salary for life...and of course, taxpayer paid health benefits!!

            • 1 vote
            Reply#15 - Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:59 PM EDT
            bkoz

            There seemed to be much happiness when this so called health care bill was passed, however it's going to be very expensive down the road. Those countries that do provide the so called free health care also tax the population up to 50% and still the service is somewhat limited, as an example, there are over 10,000 Canadians in US hospitals everyday paying their own expenses because the wait period was too long, up to a year in some cases, or they were just flat out denied. This is the reality of National health care, they can keep it! Higher insurance premiums are easier to pay than giving half my wages to the government then not being able to access the medical services when needed. Or, to put it simply, it's a lot easier to deal with an insurance co. than some jerk in a government office!

              Reply#16 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:00 AM EDT
              Lola-984242

              bkoz - That's just bull, I've got family in Canada and they receive excellent health care. You're just fear mongering. 10k people (if that's even an accurate number) is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of Americans who travel to Canada, Mexico, and abroad for affordable health care. And those 10K people are usually wealth, don't want to wait, and many come here for cosmetic surgery. So please cut the GO"bp" and fox news talking points.

              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-mann/americans-whove-used-cana_b_215256.html

              "The scare ads and op-ed pieces featuring Canadians telling us American how terrible their government health-care systems have arrived - predictably.

              There's another, factual view - by those of us Americans who've lived in Canada and used their system.

              My wife and I did for years, and we've been incensed by the lies we've heard back here in the U.S. about Canada's supposedly broken system.

              It's not broken - and what's more, Canadians like and fiercely defend it."

              http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/if-american-health-care-so-great-why

              "I've known Americans who've gone to Costa Rica, Venezuela, Peru, Mexico and Austria for medical and dental treatment they couldn't afford here. (In fact, Logan wrote about this a few weeks ago.) If people are getting on a plane to go somewhere to get treatment, that's got to tell you something:"

              http://worldfocus.org/blog/2009/01/28/how-the-us-measures-up-to-canadas-health-care-system/3783/

              "I think it's a high performer in the following sense: Canadians spend half as much per capita on health care as we do in the U.S., and yet if you go up there, sure you have to wait for some MRI image or for some heart procedures, but overall the system produces very good health outcomes. People are more satisfied there with their care than Americans are with theirs. So if you diagnosed it like a physician, you'd give that system an A and you'd have a hard time giving more than a B to ours."

              • 3 votes
              #16.1 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:15 AM EDT
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              Smokie-788412

              Obama-Care is to expensive. We are going to have to maintain what we have, our insurance plans, and pay for the new system until 2013. Even at that time we will still not know what kind of plan we will have. None of the details have worked out yet. The details will be created by a special committee that will be hand picked by the Obama administration and the help of the Social Security Administration. At the same time the Social Security Administration will also be trying to figure out how to cut Medicare-Medicaid by $500 billion dollars in fraud and waste. They are not sure how much waste and fraud they have to deal with yet and most probably have little time to figure that out. So that means a cut and services for Medicare-Medicaid Programs until a latter time or century.

              We have been scammed by the President, his administration and all of the Democrats in Congress. We do have a few exceptions. I believe it was either five or six Democrats that voted against the health insurance reform. I thank them from the bottom of my heart for their decisions and common sense.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#17 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:32 AM EDT
              upswing

              Why is Obama still d*cking around with insurance companies?

              At some point, he's going to realize that universal healthcare is the only sensible option.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#18 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:58 AM EDT
              Lola-984242

              upswing - Why is Obama still d*cking around with insurance companies?

              At some point, he's going to realize that universal healthcare is the only sensible option.

              I think he's taking small steps. Our country is so divided on this issue and many people have been misinformed about how Universal Health Care works and it's successes. I'm always amazed on how Americans take pride in believing we do everything better, but lose all faith when it comes to health care for it's citizens. They look to Canada and Britain saying it's a horrible system but have no faith in thinking we can improve on it. Our country is full of money grubbing idiots who could care less about fellow citizens.

                #18.1 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT
                upswing

                Lola:

                I think he's taking small steps.

                If this is true, then I think it's a mistake: the longer he draws things out, the more entrenched the enemy gets.

                I'm still not sure why the awful bill that did pass was delayed until 2014 for most of its components to go online ...

                My sense is that Obama is a NeoCon corporate flunky in the same way Bush was...

                • 2 votes
                #18.2 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:21 PM EDT
                Lola-984242

                If this is true, then I think it's a mistake: the longer he draws things out, the more entrenched the enemy gets.

                upswing -I couldn't agree more, push it through, push everything through like Bush, screw all those nay sayers! I say lie if he has to and make sh!t up like the past administration.

                My sense is that Obama is a NeoCon corporate flunky in the same way Bush was...

                LMAO! Tell that to the NeoCon corporate flunkies, I think you'll you have great fun with that.

                  #18.3 - Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:29 PM EDT
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