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Premiums for new "high risk" pool could be steep

Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:56 PM EDT
business, politics, health, us, barack-obama, overhaul, conditions, pre-existing-conditions, existing, pre-existing
Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Associated Press
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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's new health coverage for uninsured Americans with health problems won't be cheap — premiums averaging $300 to $600 a month in the largest states, according to a government website that went live Thursday.

From cheaper to most expensive, premiums will range from a $140 a month to as much as $900, Richard Popper, deputy director of a new insurance office at the federal Health and Human Services department, said Wednesday.

The range is so wide because premiums will be keyed to standard individual health insurance rates in each state, which can differ dramatically because of medical costs and the scope of coverage. Also, older people will pay more.

"There are going to be meaningful premiums that are going to be required to stay in this plan ... in the hundreds of dollars," said Popper, with the Office of Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight.

Estimates on HealthCare.gov show premiums for a 50-year-old in Florida will be $552 to $675 a month; in New York the cost will average from $400 to $600; in Texas it's $491 to $600, and in Pennsylvania $283 on average. In many states, consumers can start enrolling immediately.

Despite the cost, consumer advocates are urging uninsured people with health problems to sign up soon, because they cannot be turned away for medical reasons. Family members may be able to help with premiums, which are competitive with rates paid by people who buy their coverage directly from an insurance company.

The Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan will start taking applications in every state by the end of the month. Coverage will be available as early as August 1.

Consumers can go to the website to find out about the program, as well as other coverage options in their state, including government plans such as Medicaid, and private insurance. Starting this fall, the site will feature easy price and coverage comparisons among private plans. The new health care law called for the site, as a way to offer Americans one-stop shopping for coverage.

Twenty-nine states and Washington, D.C., will administer their own plans for people with pre-existing conditions. The federal government will run the program in the remaining 21 states.

The coverage is a stopgap for vulnerable people locked out of the private insurance market because of medical problems. It's intended to remain available until 2014, when core health care overhaul provisions take effect. At that time, insurers will be barred from turning away people in poor health, low- and middle-income households will get subsidized coverage, and most Americans will for the first time be required to carry health insurance.

To qualify for the pre-existing condition plan, people must be uninsured for at least six months and have been turned down for coverage by a private insurer because of a medical problem. U.S. citizens and legal residents are eligible.

The biggest question hanging over the program is whether the $5 billion allocated will be enough.

Millions of people meet the basic qualifications for coverage, and technical experts who advise Congress and the administration have warned the funds could be exhausted as early as the end of 2011.

HHS officials sidestepped questions about what would happen if the money runs out. One option is for the government to limit enrollment.

Popper estimated about 200,000 people would be enrolled in the program at any one time, but other HHS experts estimated that 375,000 would sign up this year, and the Congressional Budget Office says the total could reach 700,000 in 2013.

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Online:

http://www.HealthCare.gov

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themman

And $5 billion that Congress allocated to the program through 2013 could run out well before that.

No sheeeat. Go figure.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:17 PM EDT
onevoiceamongmany

Thank you wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Thank you Pentagon. Thank you CIA. Thank you 47 bases world wide that cost 1.2 billion a pop each year. Thank you tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.

I think you get my point. We could have spent our money a lot better and now people want to complain cuz we are running short on other imperatives, like our health. If you want to cut the deficit go right ahead its not hard. You can even keep health care and many other social programs. All you have to do is cut the Cold War military. That's all. But that won't happen. We are fighting less than 5,000 individuals world wide and we need a military that could take on the old Soviet Union? Let's get real. The last 30 years have bankrupted the US. It was Reagan, Bush, and Bush who have seriously bankrupted us with tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and giving gobbs of money to the Defense Department, engaging in covert wars across the globe, allowing Wall st to run wild putting more incentive to go for the short than the long, massive wars in Afghanistan and Iraq along with a long list of others. The democrats are to blame too. All the politicians are but the GOP ideology has sped it up more so than the dems. At least Clinton had a surplus for heavens sake. It's doable to turn this around but complaining about health care costs is the last thing we should be doing when we can allocate the money to fix it.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:29 PM EDT
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upswing

FROM THE ARTICLE:

Premiums will vary from state to state. In California, for example, the cost for a 50-year-old is estimated at $575 a month, with a $1,500 annual deductible and 15 percent co-insurance. Premiums in states with lower medical costs could be around $400 a month.

$575 per month!

How the Hell does this help anyone who actually needs the help?

This seems like just onemore corproate-friendly Obama scam, like the mortgage relief program and "financial reform" ... Lots of talk, but no f*cking help to anybody who needs the help.

Onevoice:

All you have to do is cut the Cold War military.

Amen to that!

Also, stop dumping billions of unacconted-for tax dollars in pallettes in Iraq and Afghanistan...

Universal health care is way more important than US bases along an oil pipeline in Afghanistan...

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:37 PM EDT
Jim Mahoney

Millions fit that description, and technical experts who advise Congress and the administration have repeatedly warned that the White House underestimated the cost. The Congressional Budget Office said last week it would take probably another $5 billion to $10 billion to fully meet the demand, about 700,000 people who would potentially sign up by 2013.

Medicare economists earlier estimated the program would sign up 375,000 people this year, but run out of money around the end of 2011.

That would be an embarrassment for Obama, since the program is a centerpiece of his plan for putting the nation on a path to coverage for all.

Imagine that "ANOTHER" embarrassment for this President, his cheeks must stay red all the time form the amount of embarrassment this guy brings upon himself and more importantly this Country. I hope he never goes to the circus he could be mistaken for a clown.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:52 PM EDT
freebirdreaming

well........ there will be no way i could do that. I've been reading these with baited breath. hoping.

with the title of substitute and being on an on call kinda status...... i am not eligible for benefits. My kids are grown.

this should be the place where I start up again, on my own.

no healthcare........... and a lump has appeared.

they have played with my life for some time now.

seems it will not stop.

hope there is truth in reincarnation...... cause my plan is to meditate my way toward organic power.

:)

    #2.2 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:42 PM EDT
    upswing

    freebirdreaming:

    no healthcare........... and a lump has appeared.

    That's troubling :-( ... Maybe you could go to the emergency room late one night screaming bloody murder, saying that it's painful ... Then they'll at least have to check it out...

      #2.3 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:21 PM EDT
      freebirdreaming

      i've considered it......... but am trying to figure out how that little 'pre-existing' condition thing is going to work.

      I'll be making some approach soon.......... not to worry...... this 49 yr. old granny is going to welcome second grandchild in January.

      gotta insure at least another 20 years:)

        #2.4 - Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:48 AM EDT
        upswing

        freebirdreaming:

        gotta insure at least another 20 years:)

        That's just the overture ... The symphony will last a lot longer than that!

          #2.5 - Fri Jul 2, 2010 1:02 PM EDT
          freebirdreaming

          :) ......... heheh. I see myself more as a Rock Opera.... thanks

            #2.6 - Fri Jul 2, 2010 6:31 PM EDT
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            Megidoloan

            Ah, nothing like that little glimmer of hope getting extinguished when you see how much it will cost. $575 a month??? What kind of person in ill health can afford that?! Lots of people in ill health can't work at all, let alone afford a bill that high! What are these people thinking??? /pissed

            • 1 vote
            Reply#3 - Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:09 AM EDT
            icegal

            I wonder how many people will "just say no" to getting the insurance, or paying the fine if they don't.

              Reply#4 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM EDT
              Betchafur

              I am very interested in this topic, as I feel that HCR is going to hurt people more then they know. It boggles my mind that people actually thought this stuff would be free.

              So seems to me we are going to have people that are alreayd strapped for cash forced into buying coverage that they can not afford or be fined at the end of the year. Get ready people we asked for this.

                Reply#5 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 5:48 PM EDT
                onevoiceamongmany

                If we cut our military budget we can afford it, that's the thing. The gov tried to put in place safeguards but the insurance companies are just taking all of the safeguard costs and pushing them onto the consumers thus jacking up the prices. The government did do a crappy job with health care, don't get me wrong. It has some awful kickbacks for drug and insurance companies. But the goal of it to get every one in the pool will work once the economy picks up, if it does that is. The question is how do we hold these insurance companies accountable so that they don't jack up their rates so it can make it a lot easier to buy into? That is the real question. However I am sick of people complaining about how this is going to add to our deficit when we spend 1.2 billion a year for each one of our 47 bases around the world. 5 years with 10 of those closed and imagine the savings. Just 10, that's all it would take. We could pay for health care. But no the military industrial complex marches on.

                • 1 vote
                #5.1 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:14 PM EDT
                Betchafur

                It is just a mess, and I feel sorry for those that wont be able to afford the insurance or the fine they will get for not having insurance.

                  #5.2 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:30 PM EDT
                  icegal

                  Betchafur, just out of curiosity,

                  If someone can't afford the ins. or the fine, will they then be considered a criminal and jailed?

                  What will happen to these people who suddenly become tax evaders?

                    #5.3 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:02 PM EDT
                    onevoiceamongmany

                    They will be fined and audited. However there will be no jail time. There will be no criminal charges. What will happen is they will be audited on there taxes and if they cannot pay depending on the amount of the fine, which is dependent on how much they make, it will either be rolled over until the next tax period or a payment plan will set up.

                      #5.4 - Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:46 PM EDT
                      icegal

                      That sounds more reasonable than the things I have been hearing. I normally don't chase "what if's", they give me a headache. lol.

                      It would be assumed that if you can not afford either year after year, a person could apply for medicaid?

                        #5.5 - Fri Jul 2, 2010 12:00 AM EDT
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