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Obama builds on a record blurred by economy

Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:56 AM EDT
politics, health, obama, only-on-msnbc-com, senate, debt, agenda, budget-committee, ayres, sharry
msnbc.com News — Tom Curry, msnbc.com - Only on msnbc.com

LAS VEGAS - JULY 08: U.S. President Barack Obama (L) speaks during a campaign rally for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) at the Aria Resort & Casino at CityCenter July 8, 2010 in Las Vegas, Nevada. Reid will face Republican Sharron Angle in the general election in November. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

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— A landmark health care bill, a mammoth economic stimulus measure, and now with Thursday’s Senate vote, legislation to regulate the financial sector.

It’s success by any standard when a president persuades Congress to pass three marquee pieces of his agenda in just the first 18 months in office.

In addition Congress has passed a “cash for clunkers” bill to encourage car buyers, enacted legislation to make it easier for workers to sue employers for age or sex discrimination, and despite misgivings among rank-and-file Democrats, funded ongoing wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Yet the president's popularity and his party's prospects have dimmed, not soared, with the legislative achievements, muddled by fierce Republican opposition and listless economic growth.

With mid-term elections three months away, and forecasts of heavy Democratic losses in the House and Senate, the likelihood of passing other items on Obama’s menu — immigration reform and a bill to control greenhouse gas emissions — seems doubtful.

And a presidential agenda can be a fragile thing. The BP oil spill has taught Obama what his predecessors had to learn: unexpected events can sideswipe a president’s agenda and redefine the political landscape. 

Obama's historic accomplishments
Obama “has accomplished a huge amount, more than in any other first term since Lyndon Johnson,” said Roger Hickey, co-chairman of the left-of-center advocacy group Campaign for America’s Future.

“But despite the fact that he has accomplished these huge goals, health care and financial reform — with energy legislation a possibility — the public still wants to see economic recovery that actually creates jobs and makes life better,” he said.

Nearly 18 months after the stimulus bill became law, 14.6 million Americans are still seeking work. The long-term jobless — those unemployed for more than 27 weeks — account for nearly half the total.

In a poll last month by the Democratic polling group Democracy Corps, 51 percent of likely voters disapproved of Obama’s handling of the economy, and a plurality, 49 percent, agreed with the statement that his policies “have run up a record federal deficit while failing to end the recession or slow the record pace of job losses.”

Obama must “do more to stimulate and create jobs,” Hickey argued. He wants the president to call for Congress to pump money to the states to prevent them from laying off teachers and police officers. Otherwise, Hickey said, “the estimate is that 800,000 or 900,000 jobs could disappear because of the fiscal crisis of the states.”

He and other progressives support a 1930s New Deal-style jobs program targeting high unemployment parts of the country.

Misreading the mandate?
But Republican pollster Whit Ayres said Obama and his allies fundamentally misread the mandate of the 2008 elections and that misreading in part accounts for dire election prospects for Democrats this November.

“Too many Democrats thought that the 2008 election was an endorsement of a liberal agenda. Nothing could be further from the truth,” Ayres contended. “The 2008 election was a cry for change and a desire to have politicians work together for consensus policies, not to cram through left-wing proposals.”

While Obama has managed to enact big parts of his agenda, “he has succeeded in getting things passed that the majority of Americans don’t want,” especially on health care, said Ayres.

Meanwhile, those on the progressive side of the president’s party criticize him for not acting boldly enough, especially on job creation.

“He has not been willing to think big enough either on financial reform, or on economic recovery generally,” said Robert Kuttner, author of the new book A Presidency in Peril: The Inside Story of Obama's Promise, Wall Street's Power, and the Struggle to Control our Economic Future.

By the time of Obama’s 2010 State of the Union address, bond market investors had made sovereign debt a concern. And it wasn’t just Republicans who seized on the idea that fiscally discredited Greece could be a precursor of a U.S. debt crisis.

“This year we will hit gross debt to GDP (gross domestic product) of just over 90 percent,” Budget Committee chairman Sen. Kent Conrad said at a hearing last February. He cited research by economists Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff that indicate when government debt hits 90 percent of GDP, a nation’s economic growth slows and it becomes prey to debt crises.

'The wolf is very fickle'
“The wolf is very fickle and markets can turn very quickly,” Reinhart warned in her Budget Committee testimony. “A high debt level makes us very vulnerable to shifts in sentiments that we cannot predict.”

Seeming to agree with that analysis, Obama appointed a deficit reduction commission headed by a former senator Alan Simpson, a Republican and former Clinton White House chief of staff Erskine Bowles.

The deficit commission “simply strengthens the hand of the conservatives who are exaggerating the threat of the debt and who are saying ‘the sky is falling, we can’t do any more job creation, we can’t do any more stimulus,’ ” Hickey complained.

Kuttner said the Obama administration “created a monster” by setting up the Simpson-Bowles panel. Administration officials “are talking out of both sides of their mouths, so the voter does not get a coherent message. Is he (Obama) for recovery, or is he for belt tightening?”

With the outcome uncertain in November, what’s in store for the rest of the president’s agenda in the remaining weeks of this Congress?

What's left on the agenda
Majority Leader Harry Reid has said that he'd include climate change as one component of an energy bill to be introduced in two weeks. (The House passed a bill to curb greenhouse gas emissions last year.)

“I would still rate the probability of passage of some kind of carbon pricing bill as below 50%,” said Kyle Danish, a lawyer and lobbyist specializing in greenhouse gas regulation at the Washington law firm Van Ness Feldman. “A number of factors are working against passage of such a program. The weak economy is probably the most significant.”

He added, “I think there is a certain exhaustion among senators for complex, far-reaching legislation. They already have tackled major bills affecting two enormous sectors of the economy, health care and finance.” 

In addition, while Senate Democratic leaders will narrow the focus of their bill to affect only electric utilities, “they are running out of time to explain the new design and attract support for it.”

On two other high-profile issues, gays serving openly in the military and the closing of the Guantanamo prison, Obama’s promises may not get fulfilled any time soon.

Prospects for Senate repeal of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy look uncertain. And despite Obama's January 2009 executive order pledging Guantanamo would be closed within a year, the prison is still in operation and Republicans resist any effort to relocate Guantanamo detainees to the United States mainland.

One could argue that Obama would not be president were it not for the votes of Latinos who were a significant part of his coalition in 2008 in states such as New Mexico.

An immigration overhaul is a prime goal for many of these Latino Democrats.

But a sweeping overhaul that would include a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants seems very unlikely before the November elections, said Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, an immigration reform advocacy group.

Sharry said “a near fatal blow” to immigration reform hopes came in January when conservative J.D. Hayworth announced he’d challenge Sen. John McCain in GOP primary in Arizona.

This left McCain, once an advocate of a path to legalization for illegals, politically vulnerable, and sent a message to other Republican senators about the perils of crossing their party's base on the issue.

Sharry said he and other reform advocates accepted the argument that Congress could not take on comprehensive immigration bill until health care reform was passed.

But that took longer than most Democrats expected. It wasn’t until March 23 that the president signed the health care overhaul into law.

By then, the hunger for other major legislation had faded. Obama himself said in April, “There may not be an appetite immediately to dive into another controversial issue. There's still work that has to be done on energy. Midterms are coming up."

Indeed they are coming up — and congressional Democrats' votes for the president’s agenda will be decisive in the outcome of those elections.

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putman

The prospect of mid term losses is not unique during any presidencey; it is quite common, very rare for there to be no losses; it is the amount of losses that could be a concern.

In today's world, we have instant communication, which makes it very easy for opponents to get a negative message out; it is much tougher to put out a positive message. Why? Because negativity sells; people only listen to the bad in things, not the good. Look at the average newspaper, or the news on T.V.. It is mostly negative. There is a lot of good going on in the world, but you do not hear about it.

Obama, while not doing everything that he said he would, is like any other president. No president can do everything they say they will; they set themselves up for failure in that respect, but it must be done to get elected. The modern electorate is not knowledgable on most issues; they listen to sound bites and pundits, who spin their own message for their own gain.

The Founding Fathers fears would appear to be correct, an uneducated, ill informed electorate is turning the country into a shell of itself. Self aggrandizing politicians do not serve the public good; career politicians have one goal: further their careers. Until we the people get smart, we will continue to suffer.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:56 AM EDT
Kareem in my Coffee

You said that so well. When sound bites of negativity outweigh actual results, we are experiencing the dumbing of America.

I agree that we as Americans will get the government that we deserve. Voting against one's own interest seems to be epidemic.

  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:00 AM EDT
Truth Hurts-840829

A landmark health care bill,

that is already going court and destined to be killed in the supreme court

yepp a landmark alright

:P

Nobama 2012

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:49 AM EDT
putman

Truth Hurts: thank you for an sightful, well thought out response. Could you cite the constitutional grounds that you believe will have the Supreme Court "kill" it? Could you cite the specific data that shows what will occur in a little over two years? Again, I thank you for your eloquent response.

    #1.3 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:59 AM EDT
    Truth Hurts-840829

    Could you cite the constitutional grounds that you believe will have the Supreme Court "kill" it?

    sure

    health care is the domain of the states - like education and marriage it is not a specifically stated power to the fed.

    your welcome

    :)

    the commerce clause?

    does not allow the fed to force people to purchase products from private companies.

    stay tuned for more as this "landmark" bill will be a landmark failure in the end.

    • 2 votes
    #1.4 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:07 AM EDT
    DUDE-875416

    Putman,

    What you say sure tickles my common sense. By not controlling our southern boarders, are we not fueling the "dumbing" of America? In fact, Obama and the Dems are deliberately targeting the Hispanic vote with absolutely NO concern of the consequences.

    Obama's historic accomplishments
    Obama “has accomplished a huge amount, more than in any other first term since Lyndon Johnson,” said Roger Hickey, co-chairman of the left-of-center advocacy group Campaign for America’s Future.

    “But despite the fact that he has accomplished these huge goals, health care and financial reform — with energy legislation a possibility — the public still wants to see economic recovery that actually creates jobs and makes life better,” he said.

    Now I have heard (read) it all. It is obvious that our new health care reform needs reform and it hasn't even been implemented yet. I have little to confidence in the financial reform bill especially since Harry Reid and Chris Dodd had authored the bill. But I guess the bill had to pass for America to find out what was in it (as Pelosi would say).

    • 2 votes
    #1.5 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:34 AM EDT
    putman

    Much of what Congress legislates is not specifically in the Constitution, as you have stated. However, Section 8 of Article I gives expansive powers to the Congress; in this case, I would not suppose the commerce clause, but the "provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States". This has been upheld nunerous times in the Supreme Court, and I believe the HCR will also. :)

      #1.6 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:39 AM EDT
      putman

      Dude: Politicians target the specific groups who are their natural constituency; you can not actually believe that Republicans do not target specific groups. Florida republicans target Hispanics when they believe they have an issue that will resonate with them. Conservatives target groups such as gun owners and anti-abortionists. Democrats target union workers and the needy.

      It is the pundits and bloggers who spin their webs of lies and deceit that only one side or the other panders. Politicians pander, period. Left, right, center, they all are after one thing, re-election. That is what I meant by my statement, we must get smarter. You insinuate that people crossing our border contribute to the "dumbing" down of America; I believe that to be insulting to groups of immigrants. I am in favor of immigration control; we ought to be aggressive in identifying and deporting illegals; but we ought not to denigrate groups of people in the manner of your post.

      HCR was needed. It did not have to be the political football it turned out to be. However, that aside, no legislation has ever been passed that is perfect; even the Constitution was amended. However, legislation is corrected and tweaked over time, after implementation is enacted and one can actually see the flaws, not in theory, but in practice. Do you fix your car before you have ever driven it? I think not.

        #1.7 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:35 AM EDT
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        nickodonnell

        I just wish both Republicans and Democrats alike would realize that government interference has done/is doing nothing to help out the financial crisis, and that doing the same thing nations have been attempting for thousands of years--namely, centrally planned economies--will not yield different results.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#2 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:51 AM EDT
        johnny angel

        Scorched earth policies toward the red states would be a beginning, but thats only me.

          Reply#3 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:48 AM EDT
          Pastor-2018372

          What is success? Beating the issue and the majority American (the majority he knows are against his interests) public to death . . . hammering, hammering, hammering? What is it we don’t like? What looks like Government/Obama control. He seems like he's in a high-speed track with his agenda, something many of us are not quite used to.

          Most of us voted for him because it represented landmark change, having any person of color in the White House. Just imagine what that represented, the very first time! A significant American voter statement. We even did it despite rumors of his not being a citizen and his anti-American sentiments. I think we were looking for something a lot different . . . a person who would not begin with arrogance/uppitiness, racism, anti-freedom, anti-patriotism, anti-military, anti-economy, anti-retired persons, anti-family. As far as I can see, the results of EVERYTHING he represents is raising the cost-of-living for the entire nation, in spite of what’s happened to the economy. No, I am not a Tea Party member. I’m a frustrated registered Republican, but don’t always vote Republican. I don’t like either major party’s behavior. In my occupation as university professor in the South, since his election I’ve observed a serious increase in racism by blacks toward whites in the classroom, a marked setback from what had occurred over the past 25 years. I actually had a black student tell me I am now “his boy”. A friend was given an old farm truck by some friends to use on her 40-acre farm in N. California. She used it for the “cash for clunkers” program. 2 other friends used the housing benefit. One is a successful accountant (who bought a $600,000 home in California & whose company is giving him a $25,000 bonus toward the principal of the house), the other (who bought a $90,000 to live in as an investment) a 3rd year med student (his wife is an RN supporting him). I do think the guy is a great baseball fan, and has 2 nice little girls, but all evidence definitely points to his having no interest in the future of our economy and freedoms. Every day, he comes up with something different along these lines. I’m nearly 65, and have never before in my entire life met EACH morning with, “I wonder what he’s going to do today” to damage my (my children’s/grandchildren’s future. Tell me please, what’s going on? Generally, I have always supported my government and president.

            Reply#4 - Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:27 AM EDT
            wraith66

            All that Obama has proves is that anyone can throw money at problems, what's the tally at now 1.5 trillion. I guess Obama will go down in history as the sorry president that pissed away more money then the last three presidents put together. Thanks for all the debt Obama.

              Reply#5 - Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:50 AM EDT
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