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CAPITAL CULTURE: Obama's electric car champion

Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:03 AM EDT
business, politics, cars, electric-cars, toyota-prius, david-sandalow, us-electric
Ken Thomas , Associated Press
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<p>People crowd around a Toyota Hybrid X car during the 3rd Philippine International Motor Show Thursday, Aug. 19, 2010 in suburban Pasay City, south of Manila, Philippines. A number of environment friendly cars including electric cars are on display side by side with conventional vehicles. (AP Photo/Pat Roque)</p>

People crowd around a Toyota Hybrid X car during the 3rd Philippine International Motor Show Thursday, Aug. 19, 2010 in suburban Pasay City, south of Manila, Philippines. A number of environment friendly cars including electric cars are on display side by side with conventional vehicles. (AP Photo/Pat Roque)

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WASHINGTON — David Sandalow starts his five-mile commute each day by unplugging an orange extension cord connecting his Toyota Prius hybrid to an outlet in his brick carport.

His Prius, which was converted two years ago to allow him to recharge the battery from an electric outlet, gets more than 80 miles per gallon and lets him drive 30 miles on a single charge. He fills up his car with gasoline about once every month or two, an oddity in a transportation sector long dominated by the internal combustion engine.

"If you're thirsty, you can get a Diet Coke or orange juice or water. If you're hungry you can get a hamburger or hot dog or a fruit plate. If you want to drive someplace, you only have one choice. You can use gasoline or petroleum-based products," says Sandalow, the Energy Department's assistant secretary for policy and international affairs. "That doesn't seem strange to us ... but it's odd. It's strange that we are utterly dependent on this one fuel source for mobility."

If American consumers begin to shift to electric cars this decade, Sandalow will be one of the government's driving forces behind the change. Crafting policy from the vantage point of an electric car driver himself, the former Brookings Institution scholar has helped shape the Obama administration's ambitious plan to pump billions of dollars into partnerships aimed at developing cars running on electric power, creating an advanced battery industry and helping communities prepare for the transition.

President Barack Obama has pledged to bring 1 million plug-in hybrid electric vehicles to U.S. highways by 2015, and turned to the nascent battery industry as one of the hallmarks of his economic recovery plan. Electric vehicles built by General Motors and Nissan are arriving in showrooms later this year and every major auto manufacturer is working on an electric strategy, encouraged by federal funding and tax incentives.

Plenty of obstacles remain: the lithium-ion batteries expected to power electric vehicles are extremely expensive, even when the costs are reduced by a $7,500-per-vehicle federal tax credit. The government recently estimated that a battery with a 100-mile range costs about $33,000, although federal stimulus funds could bring the costs down to $10,000 by the end of 2015. Other concerns remain about the durability and longevity of the batteries.

The government's projections could be rosy, some analysts contend, and the program could create more capacity for building the batteries than consumers demand. "It definitely is a risky investment. We don't think that the sales of electric vehicles will be as high as the government is hoping," said Mike Omotoso, J.D. Power's senior manager of global powertrain.

But with concerns about global warming and oil politics, the administration sees an opportunity in electric cars, and Sandalow is leading the charge.

Obama pushed a $2.4 billion grant program to develop next-generation batteries, which could lead to 500,000 batteries a year by late 2014. A 2007 energy law, meanwhile, has led to billions in loans for automakers to retool their plants for fuel-efficient vehicles, including electric cars.

Sandalow, 53, served in the State Department and at the National Security Council during the Clinton administration. He was tapped for the Energy Department's top policy job after studying oil dependence, electric vehicles and climate change at the Brookings Institute.

Sandalow has helped the administration speed the development of electric cars and offer incentives for consumers and communities to begin taking steps to transition off conventional vehicles.

His plug-in Prius differs from the standard Prius hybrid, which is powered by a gasoline engine and an electric motor and typically offers drivers better mileage in slow-speed and stop-and-go driving. Standard hybrids do not allow motorists to recharge a battery by plugging into a standard electrical outlet.

Sandalow discovered the merits of electric cars while studying oil dependence at Brookings. His 2007 book, "Freedom From Oil," included a series of hypothetical memos from different Cabinet agencies with suggestions on how a future presidential administration could help the U.S. move away from imported petroleum.

He concluded that electric cars and plug-in hybrid-electric vehicles represented the quickest way to begin making the shift. With more than 240 million vehicles on the road, it will take years to turn over the fleet, but he noted that drivers with short commutes — like his own daily trip to the Energy Department from his home in Washington — could use electric power, recharging at night when electrical loads are low.

Following his research, Sandalow decided to get his Prius, a gas-electric hybrid, converted into a plug-in hybrid at a Gaithersburg, Md., auto dealership. The $9,000 conversion, which was developed by Massachusetts battery maker A123Systems, included the installation of a large battery inside the spare tire well underneath the trunk and a charging outlet in the bumper.

The conversion allows Sandalow to recharge his battery from a standard 110-volt outlet in about six hours. His family owns another car but Sandalow says his plug-in Prius is used for long-distance travel as well.

Sandalow estimates running the car on electricity costs the equivalent of about 75 cents a gallon of gasoline. "Electric cars are quiet, they're cheap to drive, they've got great pickup and I think they're patriotic, also," Sandalow said. "That combination, I think, means they're the technology of the future."

Administration officials are working with states and cities to help streamline permitting for home charging stations and develop public charging stations for those who want to recharge their cars away from home — all for a new generation of motorists.

"My children are teenagers. They can scarcely imagine growing up in a world without personal computers, cell phones or GPS devices," Sandalow said. "I predict that someday one of my children will have one of their children look at them and say, 'You mean you couldn't plug in cars when you were young? That's so weird.' "

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mike lonkouski

I'm sorry folks, but this thing isn't going to sell in any significant numbers, and the illusion of the electric car, inks another chapter.

Nope, not until the source of that electricity is vastly improved, and batteries are either revolutionized, or eliminated altogether.

Too bad, but it's still future-tech.

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:45 AM EDT
Pretorian

Exactly where would this additional electric power come from? Additionally how much torque would said electric vehicle have? If it can’t match the performance, ease of servicing, and reliability of my Ford F-150 I simply can’t use the vehicle. Also you are going to have to do far better than six hours on the charger. Perhaps 220 3 phase could be used instead. That said the 3 phase would require the rewiring of most the homes in the United States. But you know the fed could subsidize that too along with everything else.

Seriously folks?

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:55 AM EDT
my-pockets-r-mt

Totally agree mike lonkouski and Pretorian with your points

President Barack Obama has pledged to bring 1 million plug-in hybrid electric vehicles to U.S. highways by 2015

Besides all the grants and subsidising the government will buy most of them which taxpayers will pay for either way.

I cry when I have to replace my regular battery every four years (Florida eats batteries), but then I do not have the open purse that the government does or seems to think I would be able to afford a $10,000. battery.

I didn't see in the article how much his electric bill went up.

I'm all for getting off gas but it will be awhile. Geez now that I think about it they have been subsidising car companies since at least the 70s and look what we have now, nothing.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:37 AM EDT
gregjarvis

WHO has a 5 mile commute?? like 5-10% of workers, MAX?

$7,500 tax credit...? really?

"Electric cars are quiet, they're cheap to drive, they've got great pickup and I think they're patriotic, also," Sandalow said.

theyre not patriotic... they really aren't.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT
mike lonkouski

theyre not patriotic... they really aren't.

Amen to that!

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:12 PM EDT
Phil-1006700

Replace the battery and watch these cars re-sell for ten dollars. this is just a cheer leader for Obama , one million by 2015 and one million junks 3 years later if not sooner. Where are the power plants that have to be under construction today to meet the demands of tomorrow? Probably tied up with Obama's EPA. How about this: NATURAL GAS.... We already have the know-how to convert gas engines to Natural Gas, it's clean and we have enough Natural Gas for two hundred years. We can get off of our dependency of oil by going for natural gas. We have all the equipment , and the know-how . Connecticut Natural Gas has all of their fleet cars runningon it. Not no shoe-box on wheels, real cars. Hell we got buses running on Natural Gas. The problem is , Obama wants electric.

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:29 PM EDT
mike lonkouski

How about this: NATURAL GAS..

Oh, you already know the answer to that one.

Because the "carbon-nazis" are against anything that burns.

With that one bull@!$%# stroke, they undermine EVERY alternative fuel that there is.

So much for the advancement of technology, now, we are back to square one.

Nothing but the @!$%#ing electric car!

A god damned joke!

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:59 PM EDT
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jfrank

The blue car looked pretty cool.

Though I think solar power is still more of the way to go. The sun isn't going to run out of energy. And if it does we have bigger issues.

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:56 AM EDT
Dave - Twin Cities

Good luck charging your electric car using solar energy. If it takes 6 hours to charge the Prius on conventional electricity, you will probably need a second car to drive on the days your electric car is charging or find a job where you only have to go in every 2-3 days.

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:12 PM EDT
USA 1-1003451

It takes 6-8 kw to recharge for a 30-40 mile drive. My father's system can easily do 1 kwh on a cloudy day in the Midwest, about 2kwh on a sunny day. It would be no problem charging the battery of an electric car.

Electric cars with a solar panel built into the roof, hood and trunk areas could nearly recharge the car during a work day for the trip back home. I predict it will be common on models in the future.

  • 1 vote
#2.2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:53 PM EDT
mike lonkouski

USA 1-1003451

Something like that, done very well, might be a possibility.

We just one really good major advance in power cells: batteries, or some better substitute.

  • 1 vote
#2.3 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:59 PM EDT
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greg-709692

30 miles on a single charge.

estimated that a battery with a 100-mile range costs about $33,000,

Um, WOW?

An Over Priced Grocery Cart.

although federal stimulus funds could bring the costs down to $10,000 by the end of 2015.

Thank God for subsidies. Without them, companies that offer this kind of product, would last about 2 weeks.

Talk about Government over spending, and why we have the problems we have now!

  • 7 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:01 AM EDT
Dave - Twin Cities

Talk about Government over spending, and why we have the problems we have now!

Exactly. Unfortunately the only way they can get these things on the market is to subsidize the heck out of them at taxpayer expense.

Oil is still too plentiful to make this technology financially self sufficient.

Don't mind them exploring the possibilities, but prefer that it not be on my nickel.

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:15 PM EDT
greg-709692

Wild, isn't it?

Same Problem Spains having with their solar Plant. Government Subsidies are going to drop soon, to save money, and they don't know how their going to sustain themselves.

Same Company that built that one is supposed to build one here, with government subsidies.

    #3.2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:25 PM EDT
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    lessthan60morethan59

    Almost every city in the United States had at one time an electric powered mass transportation system and 90% of all travel was by rail. GM purposely bought about the demise of that system so they could sell more cars, causing our present dependence on oil.

    This is not about a "plot" hatch by wild-eyed corporate rogues, but rather about a consummate business strategy crafted by Alfred P. Sloan, Jr., the MIT-trained genius behind General Motors, to expand auto sales and maximize profits by eliminating streetcars. In 1922, according to GM's own files, Sloan established a special unit within the corporation, which was charged, among other things, with the task of replacing America's electric railways with cars, trucks and buses.

    http://www.saveourwetlands.org/streetcar.htm

      Reply#4 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:31 AM EDT
      retired military ex republican.

      You really think anyone in Washington or especially General Motors can remember anything not roosting on the end of their nose. If it happened 2 years in the past or more its prehistory prior to Bush incentive bailouts to big business. At least Obama got stock in return for tax payers bailout money for big business car manufactures to be repaid with interest. The first smart thing Washington has done in regards to big business in decades.

      Back to the issue most of my trips business and otherwise roundtrip are far less than 30 miles. So for me it could work.

        #4.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:58 AM EDT
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        PresObamaforeveramen

        Awesome!!!!!

        • 2 votes
        Reply#5 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:36 PM EDT
        Nadia T. Pugglesworth, III

        Governments championing industries usually goes horribly wrong let alone governments being the majority investor in an industry as they are in the U.S. auto industry let alone governments championing a specific technology let alone governments championing a specific model.

        Hate to break it to all you green energy advocates but electric cars will never take off until the following occur which it won't because it's too expensive and there's no market for it: 1) If even in one block about half the cars were electric cars, the surge in electrical demand when they are plugged in to be recharged would most likely cause problems for the grid since the grid isn't designed to handle the load, 2) The range of electric cars is still short before they need to be recharged and there is not a network of "recharging stations" across the country as there is gasoline stations, and 3) Battery technology which is one of the reasons for the short range is very expensive for electric cars and replacing the battery will be prohibitively expensive for the average consumer for the foreseeable future. That's just off the top of my head.

        How much do you think upgrading the entire electricity transmission/distribution grid right down to the block by block level to handle electric cars will cost? I'll give you a hint: it's in the trillions. How much do you think building out a network of recharging stations similar to the current network of gasoline stations will cost and how long do you think it will take? I'll give you a hint: it's in the trillions and it will take years. How much do you think replacing the battery costs? I'll give you a hint: it's roughly $1000 per kWh of battery capacity. Given that it takes roughly 25 kWh to go 100 miles, you can see how this would quickly add up.

        Good luck!

          Reply#6 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:51 PM EDT
          katlin

          they'll have to come up with something better than the above car to make me want one....it's ugly, the price is ridiculous, and my cell phone holds a charge better than these things do...

          they won't sell, except to a few suckers...better off buying a golf cart..

          • 1 vote
          Reply#7 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:16 PM EDT
          Head-Negro

          lol not for the knuckle draggers who wouldn't give up their horse for that new fangled automobile

          go America forward not backwards

          who killed the electric car

            Reply#8 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:21 PM EDT
            Braveheart50

            It's not about the utter insanity of this inefficient electric toy. It is about appeasing "liberal guilt", and how good it makes them feel driving blissfully down the road in one of these battery acid pieces of garbage, oh, and the corporate / Union profits resulting in the manufacturing of these things. After all...for the greenies....unintended consequences don't matter, it is the glee of feeling good about ones self that absorbs all else. Gheesh. But....Al Whore, is on board. Do they have a battery powered massage table....just wondering. lol (_*_).

            • 1 vote
            Reply#9 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:23 PM EDT
            Braveheart50

            "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." [H. L. Mencken]

              Reply#10 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:23 PM EDT
              PresObamaforeveramen

              Electric Cars...!!!!

              Tesla was right all along.

              Autos with a negative charge and a positive charge ambient. Awesome!

              • 2 votes
              Reply#11 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:09 PM EDT
              PresObamaforeveramen

              Jimmy Carter was right all along.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#12 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:39 PM EDT
              PresObamaforeveramen

              Next to Pres Obama....Jimmy Carter was one of Americas finest Presidents.

                Reply#13 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:40 PM EDT
                mike lonkouski

                I'll go along with grouping Obama with Carter, but only because they are both idiots, and disconnected leftist lemmings.

                Jimmy Carter was quite a number of years ago, and look how far the electric car has come...

                Virtually nowhere!

                Iran's nuclear program, however, is progressing rather nicely!

                Jimmy Carter, give me @!$%#ing break!

                • 3 votes
                Reply#14 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:26 PM EDT
                Pretorian

                Well perhaps we could purchase surplus atomic power from Iran in order to charge these cars; since building a new reactor in the states is next to impossible. I think it would spread the wealth around quite nicely. I am sure someone is writing up the proposal in the Whitehouse as we speak. It seems about par for the course in truth.

                • 1 vote
                #14.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:03 PM EDT
                Nadia T. Pugglesworth, III

                Jimmeh's off to North Korea allegedly as a private citizen to gain the release of an American prisoner over there. Maybe Carter in a magnanimous gesture will agree to swap himself for the American prisoner's freedom?

                • 2 votes
                #14.2 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:28 PM EDT
                mike lonkouski

                Pretorian

                Great idea, but you are right, I'm sure one of the Chavez/Castro loving crowd in the WH is already working on that one.

                Nadia T. Pugglesworth, III

                I hope they kidnap Carter, it would give us an excuse to destroy that stupid country.

                Oh man, the first day in the oval office, I'd be asking the question: "What are we doing about Iran and North Korea, and why haven't we done it already?"

                • 2 votes
                #14.3 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:34 PM EDT
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                PresObamaforeveramen

                Jimmy Carter never ratted out a CIA Agent. And, when he left office the Twin Towers were still there.

                  Reply#15 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:27 PM EDT
                  mike lonkouski

                  Yeah, and so were the hostages.

                  • 2 votes
                  #15.1 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:25 PM EDT
                  PresObamaforeveramen

                  Iran is still there too. Reagan failed...so did Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.

                    #15.2 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:53 PM EDT
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                    USA 1-1003451

                    Why is this guy driving an Import? GM has the Volt.

                    As the "Electric car champion" I'm sure he could/should be driving a Volt today.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#16 - Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:15 PM EDT
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