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No more bets: WA court says online bookie illegal

Thu Sep 2, 2010 5:35 PM EDT
business, online, wa, bookie, scow
Curt Woodward, Associated Press
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OLYMPIA — All bets are off at Betcha.com, a Seattle-based online bookmaker that couldn't skirt the state's gambling laws by making it optional for losing bettors to pay off wagers.

In a unanimous ruling Thursday, the Washington state Supreme Court said Betcha.com qualified as an illegal bookie because it arranged bets and took a percentage of the action as a fee.

Since that definition of professional gambling fits the company's activities, justices said they didn't have to decide whether optional payments by bettors would allow Betcha.com to technically escape the state's gambling restrictions.

"Under the statutory definition of bookmaking, it is immaterial whether or not Betcha users were engaged in gambling activity," Justice Tom Chambers wrote for the court.

In a blog post, Betcha.com founder Nicholas Jenkins said the court's reasoning "didn't pass the giggle test."

"Never in a million years did I expect an opinion like this one," Jenkins wrote. "The court's error is so obvious that I wonder if a single justice even cracked our brief, let alone the Revised Code of Washington."

Washington state allows some forms of non-tribal gambling, including cardrooms that offer poker, blackjack and other games with relatively low stakes. Online gambling and bookmaking fees, however, are specifically outlawed in the state. Internet gambling also is illegal on the federal level.

Betcha.com allowed users to wager on just about anything, according to the court ruling — "from sporting events, to political contests, to whether the moon would be full on a given night." Users couldn't bet more than $1,000 at any one time.

Anyone wanting to offer or accept a bet had to transfer money into an account to back any losses, with the money held in escrow by Betcha.com. The company charged fees for offering or accepting bets, for proposing counteroffers, or for premium placement on the site, the court said.

Bettors would submit claims after the event in question, but the losing bettor always had 72 hours to opt out of paying the debt. Failing to pay bets could negatively affect a user's reputation on the site, which was tracked with a number representing their "honor rating."

The state Supreme Court ruling overturned an earlier state appeals court decision that Betcha.com hadn't engaged in gambling.

Along with finding that Betcha.com had engaged in illegal professional gambling, the Supreme Court affirmed the company possessed gambling records, a gross misdemeanor, and transmitted gambling information over the Internet, a lower-level felony.

Janelle Guthrie, a spokeswoman for state Attorney General Rob McKenna, said those findings weren't expected to lead to any immediate criminal charges because Jenkins filed the suit as a civil case and the attorney general doesn't have criminal jurisdiction over such matters.

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The case is No. 82845-8, Internet Community and Entertainment Corp. v. State.

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Online:

Supreme Court: http://www.courts.wa.gov/appellate_trial_courts/SupremeCourt/

© 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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