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Tea party celebration: O'Donnell wins Delaware

Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:35 AM EDT
us-news, politics, us, rdp, primary
Michael R. Blood, Associated Press
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New Hampshire Republican Senate hopeful Ovide Lamontagne greets supporters before a debate in Manchester, N.H., In this photo taken Thursday Sept. 9, 2010. (AP Photo/Jim Cole)

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— It's tea time in America.

Conservative Christine O'Donnell is celebrating her stunning upset over Rep. Mike Castle in the Republican Senate primary in Delaware, propelled by tea party activists into a November showdown with Democrat Chris Coons. After a primary season shaped by economic pain and exasperated voters, the grass-roots, antiestablishment movement can claim wins in at least seven GOP Senate races, a handful of Republican gubernatorial contests and dozens of House primary campaigns. And it influenced many others.

In the fight for New Hampshire's Republican Senate nomination, a second conservative insurgent trailed in vote counting that was still going on Wednesday. After lagging in early returns, former Attorney General Kelly Ayotte moved ahead of Ovide Lamontagne with a lead of roughly 1,100 votes, with results tallied from 87 percent of precincts. Ayotte was backed by establishment Republicans and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin; Lamontagne, a former chairman of the state Board of Education, campaigned with the support of tea party activists.

At the end of a long and fierce primary season, Republicans were clearly upbeat about their chances in November — thanks in part to tea party fervor.

"Turnout and enthusiasm are off the charts because Americans have had enough of a Congress and an administration who simply refuse to listen to Americans who are speaking out," said Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

In New York, tea party ally Carl Paladino dealt another shock to the GOP establishment, defeating former Rep. Rick Lazio in the race for the party's nomination for governor. Paladino will face state Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, the well-known son of former Gov. Mario Cuomo.

The Delaware outcome reflected the energy and enthusiasm of the tea partiers, but O'Donnell also enters the race against Coons as an underdog, a fresh complication for the GOP effort to capture control of the Senate. Former George W. Bush political adviser Karl Rove told Fox News Channel, "This is not a race we're going to be able to win." Delaware Republicans had actively worked against O'Donnell in Tuesday's primary.

On Wednesday, a triumphant O'Donnell accused the party of "Republican cannibalism."

"We have to rise above this nastiness and unify for the greater good, because there's a lot of work to be done and there are a lot of people who want to get involved if the Republican Party would," O'Donnell said in an interview with The Associated Press.

O'Donnell said she hopes the party will unite to help her win in November, but said, "It is doable without the support of the Republican Party."

Democratic National Committee chief Tim Kaine told NBC's "Today" on Wednesday that O'Donnell's win was good for Democrats and a further sign of the "civil war" in the Republican party.

"That creates opportunities for us," he said. "The O'Donnell win shows that moderate Republican voters are being forced from their party and will "have to look long and hard before supporting these candidates," Kaine said.

Speaking Tuesday night at an Elks Lodge in Dover, Del., O'Donnell thanked Sarah Palin for her endorsement as well as the Tea Party Express, a California political committee that spent at least $237,000 to help her defeat Castle, a moderate and a fixture in Delaware politics for a generation.

Republican Party officials who saw Castle as their only hope for winning the Delaware seat once held by Vice President Joe Biden made clear they will not provide funding for O'Donnell in the general election. The Republican state chairman, Tom Ross, has said O'Donnell "could not be elected dogcatcher," and records surfaced during the campaign showing that the IRS had once slapped a lien against her and that her house had been headed for foreclosure. She also claimed — falsely — to have carried two of the state's counties in a race against Biden six years ago.

In Minneapolis, former President Bill Clinton said the Republican Party is pushing out pragmatic voices in favor of candidates that make former President George W. Bush "look like a liberal."

O'Donnell has said she would work in Congress to repeal President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. She was also a spokeswoman for Concerned Women for America, a conservative Christian group that opposes abortion, including in the case of rape, and supports abstinence-only sex education.

The victories by O'Donnell and Paladino are the latest evidence of the influence of the tea party movement, a loose-knit coalition of community groups that advocate limited government, tightfisted spending and free markets.

Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown, who was aided by spending by the Tea Party Express, became an overnight Republican star in January when he claimed the seat held for decades by the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy. Brown's win set the stage for a year of outsider candidates, and the tea party has scored prominent primary election wins in Utah, Nevada, Kentucky, Colorado and Alaska.

But can they win in November?

O'Donnell and other tea party candidates have called for an abrupt turn toward austere government, and the question will be how far voters want to go to reshape Washington.

The movement's spirited rallies have attracted tens of thousands of people, and they've made their presence felt at the polls: Republican turnout in the primary season has well outpaced Democratic. Even in races where the tea party has been less visible, its influence is evident in candidates' arguments. In the California race for governor, Democrat Jerry Brown is depicting himself as a tax-cutter who keeps his eye on the bottom line.

But for all its enthusiasm, the tea party has elevated sometimes unpolished or flawed candidates who — in some cases — will be more vulnerable in November, particularly in states or districts that are more moderate. The movement has also opened fissures with the GOP establishment. In Alaska, Sen. Lisa Murkowski, who was defeated by tea party favorite Joe Miller, is considering a write-in candidacy and says the Alaska Republican party was "hijacked" by the Tea Party Express, which she calls an "extremist group." The committee, based in California, endorsed Miller and ran ads supporting him.

For the GOP, the tea party "is a mixed blessing," said Bill Whalen, a fellow at the conservative Hoover Institution.

The loosely connected movement, which took shape in early 2009 in reaction to bailouts and rising government debt, has no central organization that endorses candidates. There are thousands of local chapters, some of which are tethered to national groups.

Tea party candidates have been aided by support from conservative political committees that share the movement's limited government, free market agenda, including the Tea Party Express, FreedomWorks, Club for Growth and South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint's Senate Conservatives Fund.

The financial arm of the Tea Party Express — the Our Country Deserves Better PAC — has spent about $1.6 million in advertising and mailings in a handful of races, including $237,000 in Delaware. It pumped $588,000 into the GOP primary in Alaska to lift Miller over Murkowski.

The Tea Party Express' biggest investment has been in Nevada, where it has spent $790,000 on Angle's behalf. It also spent about $350,000 in Massachusetts to help Brown win.

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Associated Press writers Jim Kuhnhenn in Washington and Becky Bohrer in Juneau, Alaska, contributed to this report.

© 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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G. H.

This is unbelieveable! Ignorance is taking over. If this continues to happen, I wonder if my pitiful disability will be enough to move away? It's a nightmare. ©¿©

  • 16 votes
#1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:06 AM EDT
bonos_rama

This is good for the dems. Having a tea party candidate splits the pub vote.

  • 17 votes
#1.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:55 AM EDT
DEBEKI

I am so smiling today - November is going to be a wild one and I can't wait to cast my vote for the Democrats.

The Republicans couldn't have set up the polls any better than this for the Democrats. The Tea Party may have won in the Primaries - but the general election (where it really counts) is going to suck the air right out of their ballon

Last night was an incredible night for the Democrats and I can't stop smiling.

  • 21 votes
#1.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:55 AM EDT
devilsadvocates

GH....they(DE) are just setting them(teabaggers) up for the fall. I just can't imagine Delaware being foolish and even stupid enough to vote these anal sex obsessed taliban into office. Texass, maybe, but not Delaware!

  • 16 votes
#1.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:10 AM EDT
Buckeye Voter

Well, this is certainly interesting.

  • 11 votes
#1.4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:35 AM EDT
ffeineandsugar

As a democrat, I can not tell you how pleased I am. Castile was up over the Democrat by 10 points. O'Donnell is down by the same amount. The people of Delaware are more likely to elect ROSIE O'Donnell than they are Christine in the general election. BRING IT!

  • 17 votes
#1.5 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:43 AM EDT
Max101st

So what. The "Brown Shirts" won two elections. To me, its easy to see through this so called patriotic fog. These are the same people and attitudes who got us into the war in Iraq.

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:57 AM EDT
Davy-755715

In the late 30's the brown shirts had a bunch of Americans fooled for a while, as well.

  • 8 votes
#1.7 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:24 AM EDT
Jimster

W's Granddaddy for one.

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:31 AM EDT
mountainmike-1199289

Delaware is probably the most non diverse state population in America next to Utah. The Tea Party is a sea of white and depends on a white population to win. That will not translate to larger states with diverse populations. The African American, Latino American, Native American and Asian American need to become more of the process of making the Democratic Party work for everyone. Numerically, they would be a much larger voting block that the Tea Party.

The unspoken truth about the Tea Party is that it has no real tolerance of diversity. That includes the white supremacy of some members. They long for yesteryear when white males dominated politics and government. They pretend to have gender acceptance, but none of the women are pro choice. The unspoken connection Beck just made to promote his popularity is Protestant (fundamentalist) Christianity.

How will this play out? My guess is that the Tea Party will do a Ross Perot and become a third party for the 2012 presidential race. Perhaps they will run Palin and Beck. That would be the best thing that could ever happen for the Democratic Party.

The nation is getting on the average younger and more diverse while the Republican Party is getting older and less diverse. The bottom line is diversity needs to work for America, and specific ethnic groups need to unite and find their voice for politics.

  • 14 votes
#1.9 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:38 AM EDT
Rickeroo

What we're seeing now is the beginning of the pushback away from Big Government.

Just like gas prices at $4/gallon, people whine about it, but will still pay up. I called a local radio show then and told them $4 doesn't hurt enough. It's going to have to get to $8 for people to really get angry.

The size of government is now at $4.50 a gallon:

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_20th_century_chart.html

Once it hits 65% GDP, then you'll see the people wanting a Ron Paul-style hack-N-slash to trim the government down to size.

Until then, Big Government socialist democrats (and socialist republicans) will continue to be electable.

Then, the people (actually just the taxpayers) will start noticing how much of their work day goes to the Collective. The tea party already knows.

  • 7 votes
#1.10 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:47 AM EDT
Zoolopolis

This is good for the dems. Having a tea party candidate splits the pub vote.

Bonos, don't be over confident yet. We Democrats have a way of grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory cause we have no leadership or command and control.

We always get massacred like the mob of barbarians by the Roman war machine at the beginning of 'Gladiator'.

Don't let the reichwingnutz run this country, vote Democratic this Nov. Sponsored by the Committee of Sane People in America.

  • 8 votes
#1.11 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:47 AM EDT
bonos_rama

I agree, Zoo, that people cannot be complacent this year. Hell no.

  • 7 votes
#1.12 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:00 AM EDT
vol fan in chatt, tn

See what this tell me is that the Republicans are finally getting it. We have a bunch of people in the party who are nothing more than RINO's and they are sick of it. The Dems while it may look good for them at the moment, they haven't figured out yet that people are sick of them too and just as much. When they do figure it out, it'll be too late.

Typically, a corrupt Charlie Rangel wins the Dem nomination easily. The sheeple have spoken apparently - they want someone who chaired the tax law writing committee, who broke tax laws, representing them. If that wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny.

So much for y'alls theory of the TEA party being just a fringe group that doesn't amount to much (like you were saying a few months ago).

  • 7 votes
#1.13 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:14 AM EDT
Old VC

All you complainers have completely avoided the source of the problem. Which is your government has spent you into the poor house and the Chinese are less than 6 months away from pulling your credit card, so you do not see the massive problems coming. Instead you all want more government of the same for dummies and slugs! Right Sure.

I am in the GOP and the two decade control of the RINO Minion is over.

Wake up or be a happen body in a bread line.

  • 7 votes
#1.14 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT
vol fan in chatt, tn

true, old VC.

  • 7 votes
#1.15 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:35 AM EDT
Davy-755715

What we're seeing now is the beginning of the pushback away from Big Government.

Trouble is, Rick, to establish exactly which direction the pushback is supposed to take. Given the individual greed and self-centeredness, I don't believe it's possible to determine mutual goals. In other words, do you see the remotest possibility of reaching agreement on a list of what's to be hacked and slashed?

  • 4 votes
#1.16 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:36 AM EDT
Andy-827327

Castle was a typical RINO and I am glad to see him get what he truly deserved, I'm also amused, at the idiot left and the lame stream media celebrating O"Donnell victory, claiming that she has no chance in the general election...that's exactly what the establishment Republicans said about her chances of beating Castle.

If you look at the Republicans commanding lead in the generic ballot and the more than 6 million shift in primary votes versus 2006, the libs are going to wake up the day after the mid terms and discover they lost seats in both the House & Senate they never even thought were in play.

Republican candidates enter the final two months of the campaign with an unprecedented 10-point lead on the generic congressional ballot and a categorical edge in what gets people to the polls: enthusiasm.

The GOP has turned out 3 million more voters than Democrats during the primary season so far — reversing the 3 million-vote advantage Democrats enjoyed in 2006, the last midterm year.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/116843-primary-season-enthusiasm-gap-points-to-november-gop-turnout-edge?sms_ss=twitter

  • 4 votes
#1.17 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:52 AM EDT
vol fan in chatt, tn

well, you could start with Congress and their salary, their pension (you realize they get a huge pension no matter how long they are in Congress), their perks, their junkets. They work less than half a year and get paid over $1,500 a day. Then work on getting the federal salaries more in line with the private sector (right now a federal job brings in twice the amount of a private sector job).

http://www.investorsinsight.com/blogs/forecasts_trends/archive/2010/08/17/federal-workers-make-twice-that-of-private-sector.aspx

Start cutting federal pencil pushing jobs. If Cuba can eliminate half a million state subsidized jobs, I think America can find plenty of federal jobs that it can also be eliminated. For one, Obamacare will add about 15,000 IRS agents to the federal dole, plus who knows how many others to the medicare pencil pushing, bean counting patrol.

This takes you to the article:

http://lonelyconservative.com/2010/09/cuba-cuts-half-a-million-government-employees-moving-toward-free-market/

  • 5 votes
#1.18 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:52 AM EDT
Tony-1517948

I think this is setting up the GOP for some big upsets in the elections this fall. Tea Party candidates will motivate the base, so it's not so surprising that they beat the GOP establishment candidates. But these candidates have very limited appeal to the folks in the middle of the spectrum. If those people turn out to vote, the Dems will win.

Case in point: Harry Reid is about as popular as a pimple. The GOP elected the one whack-a-doodle who would make him competitive. Sharron Angle has no business being anywhere near the US Senate.

If anything, this can show that Rush Limbaugh was wrong. He insisted that GOP candidates didn't have to "moderate" in order to win elections. Well, the fringe right candidates are on the clock....lets see if they can pull it off. If not, maybe we won't end up with another whack-a-doodle nutjob running for POTUS in 2012 (Here's looking at you, Sarah Palin: aka Bible Spice)

  • 11 votes
#1.19 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:53 AM EDT
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rsather139

who uses that teabagger insult

You coin the phrase to describe yourself, you have to live with the ramifications.

  • 12 votes
#1.21 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:41 AM EDT
Davy-755715

vol fan - Expecting representatives to take a nickel from their pay, perks, and pensions is like having the proverbial foxes in charge of the hen house. After all, they are just as susceptible to greed and selfishness as most everyone else (including miscellaneous government employees) are. And some of them, like health insurance and IRS tax evasion investigators, are needed.

Yep, I can see a bunch of things that need to be slashed and/or burned: NASA, Corps of Engineers, the four Dept. of Agriculture research labs, USPS, endowment for the arts, etc. Think maybe the employees and beneficiaries of the above, by some chance, might not see it as I do?

    #1.22 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:49 AM EDT
    Zoolopolis

    For everyone who uses that teabagger insult...LICK MY TEABAG.

    Then you would be teabagging. Which would make you a Teabagger.

    • 8 votes
    #1.23 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:54 AM EDT
    markpup

    Wow I'm flashing on Maxine Waters "do you know that's a sexual term?"

    • 3 votes
    #1.24 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:56 AM EDT
    Zoolopolis

    I agree, Zoo, that people cannot be complacent this year. Hell no.

    Thanks bonos, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance. I vote every election, even for the school boards.

    • 4 votes
    #1.25 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:58 AM EDT
    Stop the ignorance.

    Vol fan @ 1.13,

    Typically, a corrupt Charlie Rangel wins the Dem nomination easily. The sheeple have spoken apparently - they want someone who chaired the tax law writing committee, who broke tax laws, representing them. If that wasn't so pathetic, it would be funny.

    As a Democrat I would have to agree with your previous statement. I thought for sure that voters would oust Rangel but surprise, surprise, he lives on. I must admit, I don't know what to think of that....

    So much for y'alls theory of the TEA party being just a fringe group that doesn't amount to much (like you were saying a few months ago).

    I"m still saying it. Just because the TPM can engage the GOP in a political 'blood letting' doesn't mean they can win the general election. Rove was right when he said:

    "This is not a race we're going to be able to win."

    Karl understands politics in the sense that the country isn't hanging on the right fringe as TPM candidates would like to think it is. The only race that has seen the TPM backed candidate take on the Democrats was in the NY 23rd, we all know how that worked out for them.

    Still the same, the TPM seems to be flexing its muscle within the Republican primaries. We'll see how that translates into electoral victory, or lack thereof, in November? The question that lays before the GOP in general, and the TPM in particular, is whether they can posture themselves in the center to win? That's what Karl Rove was addressing when he said what he said about them not be able to win the Delaware congressional seat held by Joe Biden.

    It's a tricky strategy that the TPM is playing at this moment in time. They're betting that the electorates anger at the establishment will translate into a wholesale victory for their party. Most sage political watchers, both Republican and Democrat, know that the electorate may be angry but is unwilling to 'throw the baby out with the bathwater' so to say. This is the consternation of moderate Republicans (or RINO's as they're now called), they know that throwing red meat to the base gets the home crowd energized, or at least part of it. What they also know is that the extremes, both right and left, don't carry elections, the center does. Have TPM candidates forgotten this? Will that be to their peril?? I think it will.

    Another issue that the right isn't considering is how they plan to explain to the American public, if they win one or both houses of Congress by a majority but not a super majority, is why they can't get anything done in the face of Democratic filibusters that will surely come on every issue they bring forward. Like I said on an earlier thread:

    They (GOP/TPM) will have enough votes to get the blame but not enough votes to get anything passed legislatively.

    • 6 votes
    #1.26 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:59 AM EDT
    ffeineandsugar

    Yep, I can see a bunch of things that need to be slashed and/or burned: NASA, Corps of Engineers, the four Dept. of Agriculture research labs, USPS, endowment for the arts, etc. Think maybe the employees and beneficiaries of the above, by some chance, might not see it as I do?

    Hmm. As somebody who is not owed anything and not related to any of these groups, lets look and see what is going on with these four sets....

    1) NASA - probably the easiest target. But with the Shuttle program wrapping up, the budget is probably going to go way down anyways. Just keep the mission to Mars stuff from getting traction. Space is getting privatized, and when THAT happens, generally, the need for government to be involved decreases. Overall worthiness of idea: 4/5!

    2)Corps of Engineers - they make a lot of decisions that are pretty boneheaded. On the other hand, what they do to keep California from being inundated, to protect farmland and river communities, and to shore up a lot of our infrastructure? They're the equivalent of an inland Coast Guard in many ways. Axing this group is boneheaded, once you get rid of the bloat at the top. Overall worthiness of idea: 2/5.

    3) Department of Agriculture labs - again, some aggravating work goes on here. But with the way our world's population is skyrocketing, the growth in plant disease worldwide (ever hear of wheat rust? Ask anyone in their 90s. It was gone for many years, but it's baaaack!), and, most importantly, the lack of commercial competition outside of some VERY NASTY chemical groups (Monsanto/Monsatan), it fails the key tests for being axed: the work is needed, and there is no viable and honest commercial competition. Axing this group? D-U-M-B. Dumb. Overall worthiness of idea: 0/5.

    4) Endowment for the Arts: Always a lovely bugaboo for the right. Art measures the ability of a culture to survive, thrive, and represent/recreate themselves. Still, some things the NEA has supported have been pretty offensive, and have not truly been artistic either. So they get dinged a bit. Not much. Overall worthiness of idea: 2/5.

    5) USPS. Is paper mail still needed? Should it still be subsidized by the government? It seems obsolete. But there's a catch: Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution explicitly makes this a government service. You can't slash it to the point of non-viability unless you amend the Constitution first, methinks. Odds of that? Overall worthiness of idea: 2/5, due to the legal technicalities, which should NOT be underestimated.

    So I've voted no (reluctantly twice) on four of your ideas. That means I need to propose a few of my own. So!

    6) As a public school teacher, let me tell you: the Department of Education would make very good fodder for the graveyard. Mothball all but a few grant/scholarship programs.

    7) A lot of money is pouring down the twin ratholes known as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They have assets that should be sold off more quickly than is happening - especially foreclosed homes. Sell them. Fast.

    8) Prudential Insurance ripped off literally Billions of dollars from the families of fallen US Soldiers. The VA should claw that money back for the families, and also collect a few BILLION dollars in penalties from these slimeballs. That would equal any money saved by shuttering the NEA.

    9) The biggest waste of all: UNNEEDED PORK. This is true in just about all budgets, and especially happens when Senators and Representatives slip in goodies for their districts that the executive branch, military, park service, et. al., didn't ask for, in unrelated bills. Reforming the budget process to require these items to be voted on directly, without throwing them into what I call slop bills, would save far more money than any of the other proposals. Needed: for Congress and the Senate to grow a pair (Ovaries, Testes, whatever!) and actually kick the pork habit. Agreed?

    • 2 votes
    #1.27 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:20 PM EDT
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    ffeine and sugar...good suggestions of what to cut. My thing with the Congress is they are to lead by example. They don't. It's always what is in their best interest - always. That has got to change! However, I am glad to see this goes across party bounds. The waste needs to stop and stop quickly!

    • 2 votes
    #1.28 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:39 PM EDT
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    Psimon

    Congrats. Yet another seat that the Republicans won't win.

    • 14 votes
    Reply#2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:32 AM EDT
    The Spirit

    Ooooo, those grapes taste SOUR!

    • 6 votes
    #2.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:54 AM EDT
    DEBEKI

    Nope these are the sweetest grapes I have ever tasted - I love it. I was so cheerleading for O'Donnel last night. When the polls showed her winning - I leaped out of my Lazy Boy and applauded - because she will not survive the general - nether with Sharron Angle or Miller or the porn-emailier in NY.

    I couldn't have asked for a better field of candidates from the Repulicans even if I had prayed to whatever deity there maybe on my knees for a year - this is fantastic and I'm lovin' it.

    This is the best news for Democrats because it energizes us to get to the polls and vote for the sane instead of what the Repubicans have given us. YAY Democrats.

    • 16 votes
    #2.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:59 AM EDT
    devilsadvocates

    We shall see who is crowing come NOVEMBER! This is just the friggin PRIMARIES amd the rabid rs are strutting and crowing like they won the election that really counts! ROTFLMFAO! The talibanisc teabaggers are playing right into the hands of the dems. WE needed to find something to energize the apathetic to actually vote and angle and o'donnell will be our mantra to encourage the left to get out to vote. Spirit....like I said, we will see come November!

    • 11 votes
    #2.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:16 AM EDT
    Buckeye Voter

    We shall see who is crowing come NOVEMBER!

    Wouldn't that be a hoot? (see what I did there...I amuse myself)

    Really, though, if any of these ultra-conservatives win it would really be an fascinating turn of events. I don't expect it - but it would be fun to watch.

    • 8 votes
    #2.4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:37 AM EDT
    Jimster

    44% of Castle's supporters say they won't vote for O'Donnell.

    Delaware will not go for the Tea Booger

    • 11 votes
    #2.5 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:38 AM EDT
    devilsadvocates

    Even my ex-in laws who are texas repubs living in Delaware can't consider voting for American Taliban teabagger like o'donnell. Most of the rest of the family are far more enlightened. I see o'donnell and angle being used as tool to motivate liberal voters. The media was saying that the left had not motivation to go out and vote. And that the rs did. Looks like a liberal rejuvination!

    • 7 votes
    #2.6 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:57 AM EDT
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    rsather139

    Another surefire seat the conservatives won't be taking. She'll be shredded in the general election in all likelihood.

    Note to anyone (though especially conservatives) unleashing the forces of extremists can and often does bite you in the ass.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:04 AM EDT
    thomas-382923

    It would be great to have a third party, but the Tea Party isn't it. They are just another branch of the GOP.

    The Tea Party should be an actual third party, outside of the GOP tent.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:18 AM EDT
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    rsather139

    The RNC may talk to us but they have no control over us.

    Then why are you having your Tea Party candidates running in the Republican primary? Why not just run one yourself?

    • 5 votes
    #4.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:47 AM EDT
    silvrhawkDeleted
    Minan59

    Then why are you having your Tea Party candidates running in the Republican primary? Why not just run one yourself?

    Historically third party candidates don't do well in general elections. If both republicans and t-party candidates were in a general election, the conservative vote would be split.

    • 2 votes
    #4.4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:16 PM EDT
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    MyOpIA

    Fantastic! This is exactly the kind of periodic revolution accommodated by the constitution, where the people toss out those who have come to think of themselves as rulers instead of stewards. It's way past time and hopefully the end result is a much smaller federal involvement in things they have no business meddling with. Cut the socialist programs, cut the taxes and get the country moving in a positive direction again. Toss out the democrats and the republicans as neither has done a worthy job.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#5 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:23 AM EDT
    rsather139

    Toss out the democrats and the republicans

    She's running as a Republican. That's what the whole primary thing is about anyway.

    Cut the socialist programs

    Like what? Besides, socialism doesn't violate the constitution.

    • 15 votes
    #5.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:27 AM EDT
    MyOpIA

    Actually, it does. The constitution provide for individual rights, including the right to error and pay for it. People who are not functionally incapable of doing so should be left to function on their own. If you want to sit on the couch and watch TV instead of work, then starve. End the ability of the government to control individual choice.

    • 7 votes
    #5.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:31 AM EDT
    devilsadvocates

    Myop......INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS! The American talliban aka, the teabaggers, want to control OUR sexual freedoms! Isn't sexuality and the right to choose to reproduce or NOT a personal FREEDOM! Shouldn't masterbation be a INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM! o'donnall says is is wrong. Personally, it should be the individual's decision. The right AND the teabaggers are way to obsessed with other people's sex lives and I wouldn't vote one of those taliban voyeurs into office! If others are that anal about sex.....There are good therapists!

    • 11 votes
    #5.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:25 AM EDT
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    Taxed Enough Already Party = American Taliban...wow now that's a stretch. The only one talking about sex is you, DA... are you obsessed or something?

    • 3 votes
    #5.4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:21 AM EDT
    devilsadvocates

    Were you not aware that...http://www.newser.com/story/99652/tea-party-senate-candidate-opposes-masturbation.html?utm_medium=fark&utm_campaign=pop ............personally I prefer REAL personal freedom and not the kind from the gop or the American Taliban teabaggers who want to have a say in others sexuality and reproduction. Do I talk about it. Sure. I'm not as anal about sex, sexuality and reproduction as the tighty frightie voyeuristic righties appear to be! For all America being the country of FREEDOM, we have an awful lot of people trying to control things that are awful personal and inserting their opinions in PRIVATE issues. Now those are similar issues that the Taliban inserts itself in the Mid East......not so much a stretch. Shoot, reloading violence also seems to be a teabagger trait too.....ala Taliban. If that shoe fits......................

    • 5 votes
    #5.5 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:40 PM EDT
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    frankly, I could care less what you do.

    an awful lot of people trying to control things that are awful personal and inserting their opinions in PRIVATE issues. Now those are similar issues that the Taliban inserts itself in the Mid East......not so much a stretch. Shoot, reloading violence also seems to be a teabagger trait too.....ala Taliban. If that shoe fits......................

    As for the American Taliban...let's see, I am sure you have some instances in mind... I would love to see that.

    • 2 votes
    #5.6 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:41 PM EDT
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    DSKY

    It is about time the people speak in this country as put an end to the small vocal leftwingnut groups that have been jerking this country around while the U.S. Citizens kept silent. No more! The country has been put in jeopardy by both parties, and the voice of the people have not been heeded. Majority rule has been subverted by political correctness and the coutry is broke, in debt, and Citizens are at odds with each other. We must come together as citizens and stop the madness. Support the TEA Party, end Hyphenated Citizens, We are all American Citizens, not This-American or that-Amerrican. The Tea Party is for all Legal American Citizens.

    No-bama 2012

    • 6 votes
    Reply#6 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:34 AM EDT
    bonos_rama

    "We are all American Citizens, not This-American or that-Amerrican."

    Yeah, except for all of those Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans,, German-Americans, Polish-Americans Jewish-Americans, etc.

    • 13 votes
    #6.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:57 AM EDT
    ffeineandsugar

    You're both right. We should take pride in our ethnic heritage. At the same time, our identity as citizens should take precedence over that heritage. All too often, it doesn't. Rarely does it degenerate all the way to wing-nuttery (the point in 6.0 is exaggerated), but the basic idea underlying it is important.

    • 2 votes
    #6.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:50 AM EDT
    Jimster

    DSKY-

    It is about time the people speak in this country as put an end to the small vocal leftwingnut groups that have been jerking this country around while the U.S. Citizens kept silent. No more! The country has been put in jeopardy by both parties, and the voice of the people have not been heeded. Majority rule has been subverted by political correctness and the coutry is broke, in debt, and Citizens are at odds with each other. We must come together as citizens and stop the madness. Support the TEA Party, end Hyphenated Citizens, We are all American Citizens, not This-American or that-Amerrican. The Tea Party is for all Legal American Citizens.

    The big powerful black man is scary. He's a Mooslim. His cleverness makes me think he's gonna steal my daughters. He don't know hiss place. I want a white man to run the country, then I can call the African by the name my granpappy used, again.

    No-bama 2012

    Proceed.

    • 8 votes
    #6.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:14 AM EDT
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    The Spirit

    Meanwhile, Charlie Rangel won his race in Harlem.

    The conservatives vote for CHANGE, while the liberals vote for CONTINUED CORRUPTION.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#7 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:48 AM EDT
    Randy McMurphy

    That from the Party of the worst corruption in history, with the most Corrupt Congressman in history Duke Cunningham.

    • 10 votes
    #7.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:31 AM EDT
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    but I thought Nancy P was going to drain the swamp, Randy? What happened with that? Oh wait, they did get rid of one (Massa) but only because he was going to vote again against Obamacare, and not because he was going around slapping guys on the butt and making jokes, then you have Waters, Jesse Jackson, Jr, Chris Dodd, Bawney Fwank, Raymond Burris (seat bought from Obama's term), John Murtha who has already died, etc. There are plenty of Rep on their too but, the question is what happened to "the most ethical Congress ever"? And no, Duke wasn't the most corrupt one either.

    • 7 votes
    #7.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:33 AM EDT
    Mary-268849

    Spirit? C'mon? What did you expect? Range'ls base is Harlem...........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU

    • 3 votes
    #7.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:03 PM EDT
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    tianxDeleted
    lowflyer

    As frighteningly surreal as this appears at first glance, it's almost preordained. Because of the rabid misinformation, lies and inflammatory language the republicans have used to fuel the teabaggers, it was inevitable that the tail would come around to eat the head. They created a spoiled two year old brat that has turned into a crazed out of control teenager.

    I have no clue as to how it will end up, although it will surely get uglier and do harm to many during the process. But I also have hope in human nature and if/when any of these extremists are actually voted into a position of power...then and only then will the populace right itself and see with clarity what they have actually done.
    Lord, humans are such messy creatures but it seems that we have to make a mess in order to learn from it.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#9 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:07 AM EDT
    The Spirit

    Let's see why Castle lost:

    * Voted YES on enforcing limits on CO2 global warming pollution. (Jun 2009)
    * Voted YES on tax credits for renewable electricity, with PAYGO offsets. (Sep 2008)
    * Voted YES on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (May 2008)
    * Voted YES on tax incentives for renewable energy. (Feb 2008)
    * Voted YES on investing in homegrown biofuel. (Aug 2007)
    * Voted YES on criminalizing oil cartels like OPEC. (May 2007)
    * Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jan 2007)
    * Voted YES on keeping moratorium on drilling for oil offshore. (Jun 2006)
    * Voted YES on scheduling permitting for new oil refinieries. (Jun 2006)
    * Voted NO on authorizing construction of new oil refineries. (Oct 2005)
    * Voted NO on passage of the Bush Administration national energy policy. (Jun 2004)
    * Voted NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy. (Nov 2003)
    * Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels. (Aug 2001)
    * Voted YES on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR. (Aug 2001)
    * Voted YES on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. (Jun 2000)
    * Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances. (Feb 2005)
    * Rated 33% by CAF, indicating a mixed record on energy independence. (Dec 2006)
    * Sign on to UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. (Jan 2007)
    * Supports immediate reductions in greenhouse gases. (Sep 1998)

    Just pick out whatever lies you spot there and correct them, please.

    • 11 votes
    #9.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:23 AM EDT
    eddie s-802886

    Thank you for sharing that, for the Media surely wasn't telling us...Yes I clearly see Castle was a RINO and needed to go......great job of researching the Hearst Corporation needs you! But don't plan on it...not with their Board members Agenda.

    • 6 votes
    #9.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:07 AM EDT
    devilsadvocates

    RINO's might be the only rs that get elected if the alternitive are taliban teabaggers!

    Will you be crowing about their victory or complain about a RINO getting elected?

    • 7 votes
    #9.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:28 AM EDT
    ffeineandsugar

    RINO is such a stupid term. There was a liberal wing to the Republican party as late as the 1970s. The purges of the early 21st century and this foolish insistence on ideological "purity tests" will narrow the party membership to the point where it will become non-representative of the majority of the nation, and therefore dysfunctional (heck, it's well on its way now!)

    As for the votes you cite:

    * Voted YES on enforcing limits on CO2 global warming pollution. (Jun 2009): So-So - The treaty is iffy.
    * Voted YES on tax credits for renewable electricity, with PAYGO offsets. (Sep 2008) GOOD. (Helps us all, in the end).
    * Voted YES on tax incentives for energy production and conservation. (May 2008) GOOD. (Independence!)
    * Voted YES on tax incentives for renewable energy. (Feb 2008) GOOD. (Boosts the economy.)
    * Voted YES on investing in homegrown biofuel. (Aug 2007) GOOD. (Unless you LIKE bending over for the Saudis!)
    * Voted YES on criminalizing oil cartels like OPEC. (May 2007) (You LIKE Monopolies? Bend over even more!)
    * Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jan 2007) GOOD. (Corporate welfare.)
    * Voted YES on keeping moratorium on drilling for oil offshore. (Jun 2006) GOOD (Say hi, BP!)
    * Voted YES on scheduling permitting for new oil refinieries. (Jun 2006) So-So. We need control, but we need new refineries!
    * Voted NO on authorizing construction of new oil refineries. (Oct 2005) STUPID. Hurts efficiency, environment, AND consumer prices.
    * Voted NO on passage of the Bush Administration national energy policy. (Jun 2004) Good.
    * Voted NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy. (Nov 2003) Good. Both were based on secretive meetings with the major oil companies, and were violations of sunshine/open meeting policy.
    * Voted NO on raising CAFE standards; incentives for alternative fuels. (Aug 2001) STUPID. Hurts conservation, chances of independence, and jobs. A kowtow to big auto.
    * Voted YES on prohibiting oil drilling & development in ANWR. (Aug 2001) GOOD - Unneeded.
    * Voted YES on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. (Jun 2000). So-so. Kyoto was flawed.
    * Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances. (Feb 2005) Huh? Explain.
    * Rated 33% by CAF, indicating a mixed record on energy independence. (Dec 2006) How would you rate?
    * Sign on to UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. (Jan 2007). Ugh. No comment.
    * Supports immediate reductions in greenhouse gases. (Sep 1998). The easy ones we should do.

    Castle will land on his feet somewhere. For a republican, these votes aren't bad. ;:-) But I'd hate to see how O'Donnell would have voted.

    • 3 votes
    #9.4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:38 AM EDT
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    Dave the Voter 2

    I miss the point... oh wait...I get it..

    There are folks who still believe there is some principle that differentiates Democrats from Republicans. You know... like it makes one bit of difference which party gets the most money from the AMA and Saudi Arabia.

    Congress has a 95% reelection rate.... so it might even get down to 93% this election....

    Still the same old foxes guarding the hen house.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#10 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:25 AM EDT
    TedStricker

    At some point the minority of Americans will realize that We The People will rule.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#11 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:48 AM EDT
    hvymtl83

    No you won't as long as lobbyists pay the reps to vote the way they want. And if you think that a few so-called activists will change that or behave differently once they get in you need professional help.

    • 10 votes
    #11.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:57 AM EDT
    TedStricker

    We shall see.

    • 1 vote
    #11.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:11 PM EDT
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    eddie s-802886

    I find it interesting that the candidates who were successful were the ones who the News Media spent the most time trying to discredit and trash...I believe that finally, the American public is waking up to the fact tha the Media and it's Editors and Journalists are not the people to give any creditablity too and have started to use their own brain and research the candidates themselves and no longer just take for granted that the Media has any intregity or honesty or is unbiased...This is a wonderful thing! Wake up America!

    • 4 votes
    Reply#12 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:04 AM EDT
    hvymtl83

    I read a few articles on then and did not see the reporting as an attempt to discredit or trah them. They were simply reporting what the campaigners were pointing out about each other and what the RNC was saying.

    Do you really think that people "researched" what these candidates are about? or are they simply pissed off and responded to an anti-establishment message? I think the latter.

    As far as your conclusion that this is a wonderful thing, see #10.1 above.

    • 3 votes
    #12.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:49 AM EDT
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    T is for T-time

    This is very funny. You Libs are reading this completely wrong. So what else is new? The Tea Party is taking over the Republican Party. There is no "third party" to split any vote. The electorate is "mad as hell" and you can see it coming from a mile away, unless your an arrogant fool. But I am certainly glad that Libs are happy about all of this. We'll see how happy you are after the election.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#13 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:49 AM EDT
    hvymtl83

    You had better hope not. The Dems went thru the same radicalization in the late 60s and early 70s as the far left wing took over the party. It took until Clinton to get them to shut up and re-establish the Dems as a powerful party. The vast majority of Americans do not like nor want radicalism where of the left or right persuasion. What this really reminds me of is the Republicans last flirt with the far right - remember Newt and the "Contract With America"? How'd that work out? Same-same.

    • 5 votes
    #13.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:53 AM EDT
    Brian-497171

    Great far right radicals, just what this country needs.

    /sarc

    • 6 votes
    #13.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:20 AM EDT
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    gotopickDeleted
    liujiaDeleted
    A smart true American here

    American's are tired of this also. It's called money, greed, corruption, above the law, (ignore us common people unless they need your votes), career politician's who will take money from any special interest and say or do anything to keep his hold on power. It's secret government by the insiders, for the insiders only today. That's for BIG BUSINESS "ONLY" and their deep pocket's. Let's not forget that the bankers are the next-door neighbors of the politicians. Most people can see the picture, the bankers grease the politicians' palms, the politicians bail out the bankers with public funds, the bankers pay themselves fat bonuses and loan the money back to the public with interest. It's essentially a crime spree that benefits a social elite at the expense of many millions of victims. Now, where have we heard that before?. The role of bankers and the institutions they serve in financing Britain's colonial and capitalist system has not gone unnoticed. The Real IRA is threatening to attack British banks and bankers. We have already shown our capacity to launch attacks on the British military, judicial, and policing infrastructure. As we rebuild, we are confident that we will increase the volume and effectiveness of attacks.

    From: Michael Steele, RNC Chairman

    Subject: The Drive to Fire Nancy Pelosi is On. Join Us

    "Need a job? Fire Pelosi!"

    That's the message emblazoned on the big red bus that will be crisscrossing America on our 115+ city Fire Pelosi Bus Tour. The bus will be rolling into cities and towns that are home to the most competitive Congressional races, raising the alarm about the dangerous Pelosi/Reid/Obama agenda and helping activists and donors like you to be part of the coming wave in November to Fire Pelosi and Retire Reid. We all have friends and loved ones who have been personally hurt by Democrat economic malpractice. Can their kids afford another two years with Mom or Dad out of work? Can small business owners survive another two years with Pelosi and Reid in charge of the Congress, rubber-stamping Obama's job-killing, economy-choking war on American prosperity? You can help them and millions of Americans just like them. You can be part of the Revolution brewing in November by enlisting in the grassroots groundswell. The Fire Pelosi Bus Tour will be rallying voters.

    Get-out-the-vote ground-game that will be the difference between victory and defeat on Election Day.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#16 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:27 AM EDT
    A Sergeant's Mom

    What is still missing are the foundational beliefs that this "party" stands on. What is the political platform?

    I suppose I might be interested if any of the members ever decide to disclose exactly what the underlying political message is that they are attempting to promote. And, quite frankly - as long as it remains a mystery, I will not have anything to do with it. If the Tea Party cannot come clean with the American people and speak openly about its intent, then perhaps it is a dishonest organization.

    I like honest politicians.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#17 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:32 AM EDT
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    here's their platform:

    http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=6040

    http://www.rightpundits.com/?pp_album=main&pp_cat=&pp_image=contract_from_america.png

    • 1 vote
    #17.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:04 AM EDT
    A Sergeant's Mom

    14.1 - Sure thing. And these "claims" to fame are how different than the views of mainstream America?

    So - the important thing is to vote - not necessarily recreate a demonstration that started the American Revolution. Which I feel is the ultimate and underlying motive behind this alleged "party".

    No originality any more.

    • 1 vote
    #17.2 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:15 AM EDT
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    KitKat51

    Great win for the Demoractic Party! The more of these people that get themselves on the ticket the more split the GOP becomes. Destruction from within.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#18 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:36 AM EDT
    Braveheart50

    What is still missing are the foundational beliefs that this "party" stands on.

    Exactly incorrect.....core values are, what is returning.....the establishment (Charlie Rangle types), are being dumped.

    Great win for Conservatism.......

    No more moderates or Rhinos......

    • 5 votes
    Reply#19 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:42 AM EDT
    Jimster

    Braveheart50-

    ...core values are, what is returning...

    Well gosh that's a policy isn't it? It's BS like this that makes the thinking citizen shake their head in wonderment at the stupidity of the Tea Boogers.

    What are core values?

    Let's look at Republican core values, shall we? Are Vitter's hookers "core values"? How 'bout Jack Abramoff's enslaved women factory workers in the Marshall Islands? (and vacation spot for Tom Delay's family) Those "Core Values?" Mark Foley's page boys? Torture? Lying and spying? John Boehner's house floor bribes "Core Values?"

    "Back to Core Values" = Away from the liberal black man.

    The country doesn't need, nor can it afford, anymore of your Core Values®

    • 6 votes
    #19.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:41 AM EDT
    Braveheart50

    jim.....we have lists of corrupt democrats as well....I wont play that game. My list is bigger than your list.

    What took you so long to use the classic liberal race card? No one even pays attention to that bait anymore.

    • 1 vote
    #19.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:14 PM EDT
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    Braveheart50

    You gotta love a party that re-elects a criminal like Mr. Rangle.....how many chargesof corruption?, yet, he is elected again.....excellent moral compass there, and the famous Mr. Green form, I think Virginia or a Carolina, I forget....now, he is a great rep for the Dems....right?

    Let's not be throwing too many stones here.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#20 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:58 AM EDT
    A Sergeant's Mom

    17 - as he said, "There is no one else that will run in my district." He's right. What choices do they have in that region?

      #20.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:00 AM EDT
      vol fan in chatt, tn

      oh come on, there wasn't a single person from that district who could run...or was it that they were just happy to get the goodies ole Charlie could continue to garner for them? hmmm...

      I vote for the later. Nothing like bottom feeding apparently.

      • 4 votes
      #20.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT
      Andy-827327

      There were actually five challengers to Rangle, but their were enough morons in his district that voted for him to win the primary.

      Rangel beat back five challengers including Adam Clayton Powell IV, a state assemblyman and son of the legendary Harlem figure Rangel defeated in 1970. Rangel is all but guaranteed re-election in November in this heavily Democratic district.

      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39184888

      • 4 votes
      #20.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:14 AM EDT
      vol fan in chatt, tn

      in this heavily Democratic district.

      oh look, there's the answer...unlike the Rep, they don't vote for a change from corruption, they vote to keep the corruption flowing...

      • 5 votes
      #20.4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:35 AM EDT
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      PERRY-386792

      this is proof that in the absence of any real leadership people will bring a tyrant to power. i can't believe that the good people of delaware elected this nincompoop

      • 3 votes
      Reply#21 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:06 AM EDT
      vol fan in chatt, tn

      must be what happened with Obama...

      • 5 votes
      #21.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:36 AM EDT
      DEBEKI

      No Vol - and you know that's not what happened with the election for President Obama. He won hands down across the nation - Delaware has how many people and how many of those residence voted for O'Donnel? Perspective - keep it in perspective.

      I know, I know - it's hard not to slam the black man in the White House - but you just can't help yourself. Sad - just Sad.

      • 3 votes
      #21.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:47 PM EDT
      PERRY-386792

      truth is i am conservative but this woman is a total maniac. the dems want to tell us how to live and what to eat but this goofball wants to tell how to (not) masturbate. she is a total loon. even as a conservative i would have to vote for the dem to keep this woman out of office

      • 3 votes
      #21.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:03 PM EDT
      vol fan in chatt, tn

      it's hard not to slam the black man in the White House - but you just can't help yourself

      putting word in my mouth, debeki? Where did I say that? Oh right, I have never said that. As a matter of fact I have said multiple times this:

      I don't care if the man is black, white, pink, blue, purple or polkadoted, it is about his policies.

      Listen you lefties were the ones who kept bashing Bush so:

      in the absence of any real leadership

      people will bring a tyrant to power.

      people brought to power a smooth talking guy who was just an empty suit. Even the left realizes it now and have tried to reframe things. You know stories titled like:

      "What went Wrong"

      "Dems Distance Themselves from Obama"

      or this:

      http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/investing/wall-street-to-obama-the-love-affair-is-over/19619206/

      Obama Unpopular Ahead of Midterms: Will the GOP Benefit? - TIME

      Dem donors defect to the GOP

      Funny, you are right about one thing... perspective is everything...

      • 3 votes
      #21.4 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:10 AM EDT
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      sillyman

      well last night on the exit polls they ask if they (the republicans that voted for castle) if they would vote for Odonnel, 47% said the would vote democratic in the general election

      • 6 votes
      Reply#22 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:21 AM EDT
      ffeineandsugar

      Shhhh. They must ALL be RhINOs. They'll kick 'em out of the party, the brownshirts guardians of party purity will, if they find out. Heaven forbid something like that happen!!

      • 5 votes
      #22.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT
      sillyman

      oooops I forgot

      • 2 votes
      #22.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:33 PM EDT
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      j g bennet

      I’ve been saying it for months but I think people believe I’m about as whack as the TP’ers, but I’m not & the primary proves it……. Say thanks to the ex marketing guy Jim Demint for introducing old school propaganda & modern neuromarketing for all of this. He figured out how to spin the monkey brain and get them lined up for his pavlovian “victory” … look at his wins over the establishment…hmmmm Last night is proof that the tea party has used neuromarketing & The Art of Propaganda: 7 Common Tactics Used to Influence Behavior to win and I’m not nuts In 1939, the New York-based Institute for Propaganda Analysis published an article on the seven common propaganda devices with the aim of encouraging critical, rational thinking amongst citizens. Here are the seven common propaganda devices: http://politheo.com/artofpropaganda.html And the 8th tactic to add to the list is neuromarketing…. It is not a conspiracy, a fringe thing or ramblings of a partisan moron it is a fact and is evidence of the power of these tools. Mind Control or Marketing If you were asked to judge a policy proposal for addressing a social issue, which would be more important to you, the content of the proposal or the party that wrote it? Most of us would answer that the specific policies would be much more important than the political party that proposed it. Most of us would be dead wrong. Political marketers know that they have to target swing voters (undecideds, non voters, independents, etc.) with their ads and other efforts because trying to change the mind of committed party members is next to impossible. **BIGGEST PRIMARY TURNOUT SINCE THE DEPRESSION** In The Neuroscience of Political Marketing research by Drew Westen at Emory showed political messages were processed primarily in an emotional, not rational, way. A study by social psychologist Geoffrey Cohen at Yale shows that cognitive dissonance plays a big role in the way people evaluate political issues, and that they will adjust their beliefs (and maybe facts) as needed to resolve that dissonance. Cohen’s experiment was simple. He organized two groups of subjects, one composed of liberal Democrats, the other of conservative Republicans. Then, he showed them very different proposals on the topic of welfare. One policy proposal was very liberal, and involved large expenditures of tax money. The other was harshly conservative, and proposed far lower levels of assistance and expense. As you might expect, the liberal subjects preferred the free-spending plan while the conservatives liked the restrictive plan. Here’s the bizarre twist: when the subjects were told that the plan they didn’t like had been proposed by their own party, their attitudes changed and they favored the plan they had initially opposed. Liberals thought that cracking down on welfare was a good idea, while conservatives found they could justify opening the coffers for this important social purpose. They even wrote essays explaining why the policy they now favored was appropriate. And, as Neuromarketing readers could anticipate, the subjects were unaware of this influence. They did think that other people were influenced by party beliefs, but considered their own decision-making to be rational and not tainted by politics. This is another example of why getting votes from opposing party members is so difficult. One’s political affiliation can trump everything, including logic and common sense. Any experienced political campaign manager will tell you that the swing voters or non voters – those individuals who don’t have a strong party commitment – are the ones the candidate has to convince. This may seem obvious – it’s clearly going to be easier to sway a fairly undecided and uncommitted voter than one that has voted a straight party ticket for the opposition for the last twenty years. As it turns out, there’s a growing body of neuroscience research that supports the policy of ignoring the committed base of both parties (except, of course for “get out the vote” efforts for those favorable to the candidate). In late January, Drew Westen of Emory University announced the results of a brain scan study of how political messages are viewed by partisan voters. “We did not see any increased activation of the parts of the brain normally engaged during reasoning,” said Drew Westen, director of clinical psychology at Emory University. “What we saw instead was a network of emotion circuits lighting up, including circuits hypothesized to be involved in regulating emotion, and circuits known to be involved in resolving conflicts.” ***The test subjects on both sides of the political aisle reached totally biased conclusions by ignoring information that could not rationally be discounted, Westen and his colleagues say.*** Then, with their minds made up, brain activity ceased in the areas that deal with negative emotions such as disgust. ***But activity spiked in the circuits involved in reward, a response similar to what addicts experience when they get a fix, Westen explained.*** ***The study points to a total lack of reason in political decision-making.*** While people not behaving rationally when making voting decisions is hardly “stop the presses” news, the study really points up the near futility of persuading partisan voters with even the most logical appeals. **THE GOP’S PROBLEM WITH THE TP CROWD** It also explains why sometimes seemingly corrupt politicians get re-elected in some areas. **RANGLE & VITTER** While voters outside the area may shake their head in wonder, what is likely happening is that all of the facts are being processed emotionally by many voters. Negative information is downgraded or discarded, while the candidate’s own explanations are reinforced. “The result is that partisan beliefs are calcified, and the person can learn very little from new data,” This raise major questions as to the effectiveness of political marketing. Are the billions spent on a news coverage, editorializing, political advertising, etc. all dollars down the drain? Indeed, in Is This Column Futile, Dick Meyer of CBSNews.com makes that point…market research tends to suggest that anyone reading these words right now is more politically engaged than most. So to the extent this column tries to point out contradictions, dishonesty and hogwash in politics and rhetoric, it is probably a waste of time. We are, it appears, hitting my ventromedial prefrontal cortex against the wall. The truth is that political advertising DOES sometimes work, and even editorial writers can have an impact. The people who won’t be affected are the most partisan extremes, but there are plenty of voters in the middle who still process information in a rational, or at least partially rational, manner. Time and time again, negative campaigning has been shown to be effective. While some of the appeal of negative ads is emotional, much of the content is presented as factual information: “My opponent accepted campaign money from crooks… She voted to increase taxes… He was absent for many important votes.” Truly partisan voters won’t be affected in the least. Anything short of FBI video showing the candidate taking bribes will be dismisses as opposition rhetoric without any critical thinking involved. ***Voters closer to the middle, though, will process this information in at least a partially rational manner (including, of course, judging the credibility of any claims), and may be swayed in one direction or the other.*** I think the elections & publicity WILL awaken a few political types to the potential input of neuromarketing. If you are running a national campaign, either for a presidential candidate or a political advocacy group, wouldn’t you spend a little time to strap some independent voters into an fMRI scanner and see which of your commercials light up different parts of their brain? ARE YOU LISTENING RINO’S?

      • 3 votes
      Reply#23 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:21 AM EDT
      Jimster

      Learn to embrace the concept of the paragraph.

      Please?

      • 8 votes
      #23.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:46 AM EDT
      vol fan in chatt, tn

      agreed....LOL

      • 4 votes
      #23.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT
      j g bennet

      I cut and pasted and that is what happened so I'm not sure what the deal is...Sorry It looked good in word and is still worth a read.

      • 3 votes
      #23.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT
      ffeineandsugar

      This might be worth seeding as a seperate article, post, or seed. Think about doing that, in your copious spare time.

      • 2 votes
      #23.4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT
      markpup

      I'm not sure I had to read through that long post to figure negative campaigning works.

      • 2 votes
      #23.5 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:13 AM EDT
      j g bennet

      fixed it over here it is way more easy to read now.

      http://j-g-bennet.newsvine.com/_news/2010/09/15/5115248-oh-crap-ive-been-brainwashedno-way-not-me-say-it-aint-so

      • 3 votes
      #23.6 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:40 AM EDT
      ffeineandsugar

      Thanks.

      • 1 vote
      #23.7 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:58 PM EDT
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      Hoglip

      You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They got us by the short hairs. Remain willfully ingnorant.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#24 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT
      mtpromises

      have I mentioned lately how much I miss George Carlin?

      • 5 votes
      #24.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:10 AM EDT
      ffeineandsugar

      Have a nice day!!!

      • 1 vote
      #24.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT
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      Phyllis Kunz

      In Kentucky, I still see the coming of Conway and I am not discouraged by the Del. Tea Party win.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#25 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:33 AM EDT
      dinggeDeleted
      The Spirit

      At this point, democrats have all become Baghdad Bobs. If you think it's funny now, wait till Nov. 3.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#27 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:36 AM EDT
      SgtNickAngel

      My over/under is seven (7) on how many minority votes Miss O'Donnell will receive in the general election.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#28 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:23 AM EDT
      markpup

      I'll go for under these will be people that were confused by the butterfly ballot.

      • 4 votes
      #28.1 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:25 AM EDT
      Andy-827327

      My over/under is seven (7) on how many minority votes Miss O'Donnell will receive in the general election

      They must be a bunch of racists then, not voting for a white candidate...that's what the libs would say if the roles were reversed.

      • 6 votes
      #28.2 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:28 AM EDT
      SgtNickAngel

      Because so many republicans vote for minorities? Because the teabagger movement is a rainbow of color?

      • 3 votes
      #28.3 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:27 PM EDT
      Andy-827327

      Because so many republicans vote for minorities? Because the teabagger movement is a rainbow of color?

      How many Black's voted for McCain? Where they a "rainbow of color"? Odumbo received a much larger percentage of the White vote than McCain did ofthe black vote and that included white Independents and Republicans.

      • 2 votes
      #28.4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:56 PM EDT
      lifeisgood43

      Andy... why would black people by large vote for McCain. He is the only one to not vote for a Dr. MLK's Day for Ariz. Also he had the dumb Palin on his ticket and she is nothing but a loser and racist and now a quitter

      Also for your FYI, black people vote Dem no matter who is on the ticket. A white man named Clinton got 98 % of the black vote. Did you complain then

      • 5 votes
      #28.5 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:19 PM EDT
      Andy-827327

      LIG-your uninformed opinions a laughable...to put it kindly.

      • 2 votes
      #28.6 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:37 PM EDT
      lifeisgood43

      Andy... I put proof out led there. Where is your proof. All you did was attack my comments. Some me something beside an attack.

      • 1 vote
      #28.7 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:18 PM EDT
      Andy-827327

      What proof?

      He is the only one to not vote for a Dr. MLK's Day for Ariz. Also he had the dumb Palin on his ticket and she is nothing but a loser and racist and now a quitter

      So show me your proof that Palin is a racist?

      • 2 votes
      #28.8 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:27 PM EDT
      vol fan in chatt, tn

      LOL!

      black people vote Dem no matter who is on the ticket.

      Hmm, now this is curious. Why is that so, LIG?

      • 3 votes
      #28.9 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:13 AM EDT
      rsather139

      So show me your proof that Palin is a racist?

      When she was in college she said she left Hawaii because she wasn't comfortable with how many Asians that were there.

      • 3 votes
      #28.10 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:36 AM EDT
      lifeisgood43

      vol....... I say that is the party that helps them and I say that is the Party that don't make a lot of racist comments.

      Oh add that black people trust the Dems and not the Reps who didn't and don't have any black people in Rep Senate.

      • 2 votes
      #28.11 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:52 AM EDT
      Andy-827327

      When she was in college she said she left Hawaii because she wasn't comfortable with how many Asians that were there.

      Provide the citation from a credible source

      • 1 vote
      #28.12 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:53 AM EDT
      rsather139

      http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2009/12/07/091207crbo_books_tanenhaus?printable=true

      http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-plank/palin-question-the-day

      The New Yorker would be credible enough for you, no? It comes from Palin's Father's book.

      • 2 votes
      #28.13 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:22 AM EDT
      Andy-827327

      I goggled that alleged quote from her father and the only thing that came up was idiot left wing websites all regurgitating the same thing...to answer your question, no the New Yorker is not credible it was a total hit piece, I want to see the quote (if indeed her father said it) in the full context in which it was said.

      • 1 vote
      #28.14 - Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:51 AM EDT
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      aryaba

      I'm pulling up a seat and grabbing some popcorn to watch all the socialists on this site go batty come November. I can already see the froth in here.

      • 4 votes
      Reply#30 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:41 AM EDT
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