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Williams: NPR was looking for reason to fire me

Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:04 AM EDT
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Brett Zongker, Associated Press
NPR CEO Vivian Schiller says Juan Williams crossed the line with his remarks to Bill O'Reilly.
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FILE- This undated photo released by SeniorNet shows NPR news analyst Juan Williams. NPR News says that it has terminated the contract of Williams after remarks he made about Muslims on The O'Reilly Factor. (AP Photo/SeniorNet, File) NO SALES

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WASHINGTON — Ousted NPR analyst Juan Williams said Friday that he believes his former employer had been looking for a reason to fire him and used comments he made this week about Muslim airline passengers as an excuse to do so. Meanwhile, a U.S. senator said he would start the ball rolling to cut federal funding to the network.

Muslim groups were outraged by Williams' comments Monday on Fox News that he gets nervous when he sees people in Muslim dress on planes. But Williams' firing two days later prompted complaints by conservatives and even some liberals that NPR went too far.

Williams said Friday on ABC's "Good Morning America" that he believes NPR had wanted to fire him for some time because they disapproved of his appearances on shows by his other employer, Fox News. Opinions Williams expressed on Fox News over the years had strained his relationship with NPR to the point that the public radio network asked him to stop using its name when he appeared on Bill O'Reilly's show.

"I think they were looking for a reason to get rid of me," he said Friday. "They were uncomfortable with the idea that I was talking to the likes of Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity." Hannity hosts another Fox show.

Discussing the decision to fire Williams, NPR CEO Vivian Schiller said Thursday that controversial opinions should not come from NPR reporters or news analysts. Still, NPR was soundly criticized for axing Williams' contract for the interview in which he also said it is important to distinguish moderate Muslims from extremists.

In response to the firing, South Carolina Republican U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint announced Friday that he will introduce legislation to end federal funding for public radio and television.

"These programs should be able to find a way to stand on their own," he said in a statement. "With record debt and unemployment, there's simply no reason to force taxpayers to subsidize a liberal programming they disagree with."

In June, Colorado Republican U.S. Rep. Doug Lamborn introduced similar legislation in the House to cut funding after fiscal year 2012.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting — which distributes federal funds to NPR, PBS and local stations — did not immediately respond to a call requesting comment Friday. Similar proposals to end taxpayer support for public broadcasting in the 1990s were not successful under then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

Federal grants provide less than 2 percent — or $3.3 million — of NPR's $166 million annual budget. It is funded primarily by its affiliates, corporate sponsors and major donors. Federal funding of public media has long been questioned by some in Congress.

Schiller said Thursday that Williams had veered from journalistic ethics several times before Monday's comments.

The remarks that led to Williams' firing came during an episode of "The O'Reilly Factor."

"I mean, look, Bill, I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country," Williams said Monday. "But when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

Schiller said Thursday that whatever feelings Williams has about Muslims should be between him and "his psychiatrist or his publicist — take your pick." In a post later on NPR's website — where comments were heavily against Williams' firing — she apologized for making the "thoughtless" psychiatrist remark.

On ABC, Williams said Schiller made a personal attack against him because she had a weak argument to justify his firing.

"I think it's a very weak case," he said Friday, adding that he doesn't have a psychiatrist. "And so ultimately I think what she had to do then is to make it an ad hominem or personal attack."

On his Thursday broadcast, O'Reilly blasted NPR for what he called "a disgraceful decision" and called on Schiller to resign.

"Ms. Schiller is a pinhead," said O'Reilly.

Fox announced it had re-signed Williams, who has been with the network since 1997, to a multiyear deal that will give him an expanded role — and that Williams will host O'Reilly's show on Friday.

In a memo to her staff and affiliate stations, Schiller said the comments violated NPR's code of ethics, which says journalists should not participate in media "that encourage punditry and speculation rather than fact-based analysis."

Williams made the comments at issue while discussing whether O'Reilly was wrong to have said "Muslims killed us on 9/11" during an appearance last week on ABC's "The View." O'Reilly's comment prompted co-hosts Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar to walk off the set, but Goldberg defended Williams on Thursday.

"The point he was trying to say is, 'I get nervous,' and that's OK," Goldberg said. "Firing him for saying that, I think, is kind of ridiculous."

Republicans denounced NPR's decision. Gingrich told Fox News that Congress should investigate NPR for censorship and consider cutting off its public funding.

"Juan Williams: Going Rogue," former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said Thursday in a Twitter message. "NPR should receive NO fed tax dollars if it operates as intolerant, private radio. Mr. President, what say you?"

Before Williams was fired, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said a news organization would not tolerate such commentary from a journalist about other racial, ethnic or religious minority groups. Early this month, CNN fired anchor Rick Sanchez for comments that included questioning whether Jews should be considered a minority.

"NPR should address the fact that one of its news analysts seems to believe that all airline passengers who are perceived to be Muslim can legitimately be viewed as security threats," CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad said.

Society of Professional Journalists President Hagit Limor said Thursday that although the group supports Williams' right to free speech, "Based on our code of ethics, which advises avoiding stereotyping for any reason ... we understand the rationale that may be behind NPR's decision."

Williams was a longtime reporter, columnist and editorial writer at The Washington Post. He has written extensively on the civil rights movement, including a book on the African-American religious experience and a biography of Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall, the first black justice.

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Associated Press Writers Greg Bluestein in Atlanta, Tamara Lush in St. Petersburg, Fla., and Tom Foreman Jr. in Raleigh, N.C., contributed to this report.

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MN American Mom

What happened to freedom of speech? Who runs the National Public Radio and why was Juan Williams not allowed to have a personal opinion. If that makes him nervous then he has the right to say so! I can't understand why there is so much controversy in using the word Muslim. There are problems in many countries right now related directly to Muslim people, its a fact.

He was not reporting or on the job and did not interfere with their editorial standards and practices. I hope he fights them and wins!

  • 53 votes
#1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:46 AM EDT
lahsolDeleted
greck

What happened to freedom of speech?

is someone filing legal charges against Willams?

If that makes him nervous then he has the right to say so

and if his saying so hurts NPR's credibility, they have the right to fire him.

I can't understand why there is so much controversy in using the word Muslim.

I couldn't understand the controversy in using the word "vomit" either, I told my wife that's what the soup she made tasted like and she got all upset, some people are just really PC like that.

  • 39 votes
#1.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:34 AM EDT
Rob_NC

...NPR...huh,really they still on the air.....sheeesh I need to get out more......

  • 13 votes
#1.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:23 AM EDT
Max 3PO

Freedom of speech is only when you say something that doesn't offend another. You may get a pass if you're a politician, best to be in the GOP.. You live in a country that you're free as long as you're compliant, play by the rules, and keep you're mouth shut when spoken to by authorities. If you have enough money and the right attorney, all rules need not apply. Americans wouldn't know freedom if it bite them in the backside. It's how you play the game, know the rules and be prepared for them to change in the middle of the game.

  • 9 votes
#1.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:25 AM EDT
greck

NPR...huh,really they still on the air.....sheeesh I need to get out more......

you don't have a radio in your house?

  • 14 votes
#1.5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:29 AM EDT
tommymaybewrongmayberight

I can't help but wonder if he said a bunch of chirstians on a plane would make him nervous would cause him to get promoted instead of fired.

  • 29 votes
#1.6 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:20 PM EDT
bonos_rama

I don't know tommy; hard to say, although now 2 out of the 3 big religions have been insulted by journalists who were subsequently fired, so outlook doesn't seem too good for being allowed to make remarks against Christianity, either. Which of course would at least speak for consistency, if not for freedom of speech.

  • 11 votes
#1.7 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
Charlie in Sterling

Given the Marxist pestilence that infests NPR it is any wonder that even liberal Juan Williams was ever employed.

  • 17 votes
#1.8 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:34 PM EDT
SCTexan

You know it's because he's a regular on Fox.

  • 13 votes
#1.9 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:39 PM EDT
RV in GB#1

He was fired for saying how he feels. He admitted to feeling fear under a certain situation, and was fired for it. Pathetic. NPR is really going down hill.

  • 29 votes
#1.10 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:40 PM EDT
thelopes

He was not reporting or on the job and did not interfere with their editorial standards and practices.

He may not have been actively reporting for NPR - but as an employee of a news organization, he represents the company

It would be having Robert Gibbs make a personal remark about something completely devoid of his actual work in the White House. People everywhere would judge the administration about it with him being a public face of the administration.

These kinds of jobs make it so you cannot really ever be separated from that work - especially if you're going out in public as on a television show.

I hope he fights them and wins!

Seriously - on what grounds?

Where does the First Amendment mean you can say whatever you want and still be entitled to whatever job you want?

I also wouldn't be surprised if his contract with them would say something about this kind of situation.

  • 21 votes
#1.11 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:40 PM EDT
Bif Biffleston

I also wouldn't be surprised if his contract with them would say something about this kind of situation.

ahh, you mean the standard "Muslims on a Plane" clause.

  • 9 votes
#1.12 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:48 PM EDT
Apples

This is so dumb. What he said wasn't even offensive. So what he gets nervous if he sees people dressed in Muslim garb get on an airplane. I get nervous when I see babies board the airplane and cross my fingers that they aren't sitting anywhere near me. Does that mean I hate all babies? Sheesh, talk about reaching NPR!

  • 23 votes
#1.13 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:49 PM EDT
Noelle-588175

MN American Mom - I agree wholeheartedly as I disagree with NPR and their decision to fire Juan Williams. While I do not feel the same way as Williams, what would happen to me if I said: 'I get nervous with white people on board a plane?' He had every right to say what he did. I've always been a fan of NPR for their varied news content, but I will not support them as I've done in the past.

What a huge joke coming from 'public radio!'

  • 9 votes
#1.14 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:49 PM EDT
Pacific Northwest Blogger

People see one story and lose sight of the real story here.

NPR listeners, the people that write checks to NPR to support the stations have for some time been demanding Mr. Williams be removed the NPR based on his appearances on Fox Cable.

This decision to fire Mr. Williams was based on customer demand.

  • 9 votes
#1.15 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:50 PM EDT
greg-709692

This decision to fire Mr. Williams was based on customer demand.

Which customers, The "Community"?

  • 9 votes
#1.16 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:51 PM EDT
jdl-28

He has a right to his Opinion and shouldn't been firer for it, why is everyone scare to say anything about Muslim. Most people are going to worry when the Muslim group keep saying they are going to kill us.

America has lost it rights to freedom of speech, for fear that we will hurt someone feeling.

I feel they should give him his job back for he didn't do anything wrong to fire him.

  • 10 votes
#1.17 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:54 PM EDT
Buckeye Voter

What happened to freedom of speech?

Nothing. Are you confused about the US Constitution?

  • 16 votes
#1.18 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:57 PM EDT
Pacific Northwest Blogger

In a statement, NPR said that it had informed Williams of its decision on Wednesday night, and that his remarks were "inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR."

He has every right to his views and opinions, but if they go against company standards and practices, if they repeatedly upset station listeners then that's his decision to make and he did. He's not a martyr for freedom of speech, he spoke his view and no one censored it. He simply lost one of his forums -where management and the listeners disagreed with his views.

Why isn't the right here crying foul about Buckley being removed for his opinions from his own fathers magazine?

  • 12 votes
#1.19 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:58 PM EDT
HappyToSeeYa

At NPR, Juan was supposed to be a credible journalist. At Fox entertainment news, he was a non-politically correct pundit. His Fox pundification on Muslims was probably thought to harm his NPR journalist credibility. I never understood how he was able to walk the line between NPR and Fox for as long as he did.

  • 9 votes
#1.20 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:02 PM EDT
Canadian Dave

Wow! He got fired for expressing a human emotion.

  • 13 votes
#1.21 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:08 PM EDT
WTBGlobalCommonSense

He had every right to say what he did.

He absolutely does, no one tried to stop him from saying it, and no one would try to stop him from saying it again, but NPR has the right to fire him if they find his statements harmful to the public perception of them.

I have every right to sit in my (very Conservative) office and state publicly to our clients that I'm concerned that republicans will destroy this country and turn it into one big sweat shop. But guess what? I wouldn't be working here much longer if I did that.

If he was talking amongst his friends and family, yeah I'd say big whoop, who cares? But he wasn't, so he needs to accept the consequences.

  • 15 votes
#1.22 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:11 PM EDT
Phuggy

statements harmful to the public perception of them.

My perception of NPR has ALWAYS been that they want to stifle free speech, and they will go to any length to do so.

  • 4 votes
#1.23 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:15 PM EDT
MastaCoz

So if I said something about Christians does that mean I get the AX too? Or is it just the radical groups that have first dibs?

  • 7 votes
#1.24 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:26 PM EDT
bonos_rama

I guess you haven't heard about the christians who demand Walmart clerks be fired for daring to NOT say merry Christmas, MastaCoz!

  • 10 votes
#1.25 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:31 PM EDT
PanhandleMike

Mr. Williams is a hellova nice guy and NPR made a major mistake. Juan's about the only Democrat I can listen to and not vomit. Political correctness is crap-on-a-stick and Mr. Williams just got a order.

  • 11 votes
#1.26 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:32 PM EDT
MenzoberranzanDeleted
WakeUpPeople-1385514

The sad thing about his comment though, is that there has not been a reported case that I know of where the hijackers were actually dressed in "Muslim Garb". If they are going to hijack a plane, they are going to want to blend in. They wouldn't wear something that brings attention to themselves.

So, my point being, it's not the ones wearing Islamic clothing you have to watch out for. It's guys that wear T-shirts, Jeans, sneakers, suits, ties, dress shoes, collared shirts, sports coats, etc.

The guy that failed to blow up a plane with his shoe. What was he wearing? SNEAKERS!!! Sandals are part of the traditional Islamic clothing, not sneakers. Video of the 9/11 attackers going through the airports show all of them wearing pants and jeans, T-shirts, collars shirts and sweaters. Not a single one was dressed in traditional Islamic clothing.

Most people are too ignorant to notice these blatant observations though... and so they discriminate against the one group of people that can help them.

  • 10 votes
#1.28 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:35 PM EDT
Janie Ackerly

Since when can't you voice your own opinion? It seems lately we bend over backward not to offend Muslims, this is political correctness run amok. Its time to stop the kowtowing to other people coming to this country and trying to turn it into the very same Country they just left.

If they come here its because they like what America stands for not to convert Americans into their beliefs.

Stand Up America And Take Back Our Country!!!!!

  • 5 votes
#1.29 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:36 PM EDT
Aunk (The Cultural Health Guy)

Hetep and Respect folks it is amazing how so many of my fellow American make poor judgments like the Iraq war because of Cultural Illiteracy.

Juan Williams African Latino American, like Armstrong Williams are cultural traitors well known to the AA community. Their being payed off by Cultural anti-humanists Republicans is a matter of public record. These are in Reality boot licking Republicans themselves. Mr. Williams is a chronic suffer of Cultural Poisoning and is on the record as not Voting for our President and voting for anti-vitamin McCain.

on the Fox News Channel, after he told Bill O'Reilly that he gets nervous when he sees people in Muslim garb on an airplane.

This is not surprising, Williams was a cultural coward long before he went to an airport and saw Muslims.

Serious Republicans are getting tired of the Confederate Party, that drinks tea and the few treasonous Black people that they rent from time to time.

Not to worry that foreign "news" service, the Fox, will give him a job in a minute. Watch, he will be the anchor of something over their in a minute.

Elect NO Republican for 100 year, starting in November.

  • 9 votes
#1.30 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:37 PM EDT
MTpolitico

Well, NPR hasn't been objective in their "journalism" for many, many years. The truth isn't relevant to NPRs mission. Juan expressing a personal opinion that he gets nervous is somehow offensive? I hope he sues NPR and restores at least some sort of jounalistic integrity to their BS, PC bias. Heaven forbid that his humanity (having fealings) not mesh with NPRs PC leftist approved fealings!

  • 6 votes
#1.31 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:39 PM EDT
Goes

WakeUpPeople-1385514

The sad thing about his comment though, is that there has not been a reported case that I know of where the hijackers were actually dressed in "Muslim Garb". If they are going to hijack a plane, they are going to want to blend in. They wouldn't wear something that brings attention to themselves.

And this is what is called deception (taqueya)

  • 4 votes
#1.32 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:39 PM EDT
determined0a1

There is no justification for Juan's firing by NPR.

NPR is biased.

Who gave the order?

  • 11 votes
#1.33 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:41 PM EDT
WakeUpPeople-1385514

Since when can't you voice your own opinion? It seems lately we bend over backward not to offend Muslims, this is political correctness run amok. Its time to stop the kowtowing to other people coming to this country and trying to turn it into the very same Country they just left.

If they come here its because they like what America stands for not to convert Americans into their beliefs.

What's Ironic is you sound just like a Nativist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Nativist_Riots

The Philadelphia Nativist Riots (also known as the Philadelphia Prayer Riots, the Bible Riots and the Native American Riots) were a series of riots that took place between May 6 and 8 and July 6 and 7, 1844, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States and the adjacent districts of Kensington and Southwark. The riots were a result of rising anti-Catholic sentiment at the growing population of Irish Catholic immigrants.

In the months prior to the riots, nativist groups had been spreading a rumor that Catholics were trying to remove the Bible from public schools. A nativist rally in Kensington erupted in violence on May 6 and started a deadly riot that would result in destruction of two Catholic churches and numerous other buildings. Riots erupted again in July after it was discovered that St. Philip Neri's Catholic Church in Southwark had armed itself for protection. Fierce fighting broke out between the nativists and the soldiers sent to protect the church, resulting in numerous deaths and injuries.

The Nativists also burned down Old Saint Augustine's Church, which just so happened to hold the liberty bell at the time... How's that for Irony.

History repeats itself over and over again because most of us are too ignorant to learn from the past.

  • 6 votes
#1.34 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:43 PM EDT
MTpolitico

Interesting, since Juan is Black then all the leftists that wanted him outed must be racist,...Right? or does that only work with people that disagree with Obama? I'm afraid I haven't figured out the rules for being politcally correct yet.

  • 8 votes
#1.35 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:44 PM EDT
WakeUpPeople-1385514

And this is what is called deception (taqueya)

OK, then find an example of a terrorist hijacking in the last 10 years in Europe or the US where the hijackers were wearing Islamic clothing.

  • 6 votes
#1.36 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:45 PM EDT
800 lb. gorilla

mn mom

so would it be okay for someone to say they get nervous when they see a black man walking down the street, or perhaps to say that they get nervous when they see a woman reporter on television and all they can think is get back in the kitchen? how about all i can think of when i see catholics, or catholic preists, is that they are child molesters? when we paint with broad strokes, then we will lose the details.

  • 4 votes
#1.37 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:45 PM EDT
Goes

WakeUpPeople-1385514

OK, then find an example of a terrorist hijacking in the last 10 years where the hijackers were wearing Islamic clothing.

Not a single one, and this is exactly what I meant when I mentioned taqueya, it is a war.

  • 4 votes
#1.38 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:48 PM EDT
Colodomom

MastaCoz:

If you said something insulting or demeaning about Christians on FOX you'd get the AX and nobody would be throwing temper tantrums about it either.

  • 1 vote
#1.39 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:52 PM EDT
MastaCoz

I was using it as an example. The point i was making is that it sounds like whatever someone says on the air they get the AX, no matter what religion, gender or color you are. It's kinda sad tho...he said he would be frightened, that's a totally non biased opinion, he has the right to say that.

now if he called them ***** or ***** then yeah, totally, guy go bye bye.

But if I was in his shoes, I would sue FOX for being racists...ya know..it works both ways.

    #1.40 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:58 PM EDT
    1standlastword

    So there you have it. Personalities cannot air their personal opinions in public. Sorry Mr. Williams...I really liked his work...bummer

    • 3 votes
    #1.41 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:59 PM EDT
    Aunk (The Cultural Health Guy)

    Hetep and Respect 800, nothing like throwing a little common sense in the game.

    how about all i can think of when i see catholics, or catholic preists, is that they are child molesters?

    It is Amazing how the dis-ease of Cultural Poisoning freezes the mind. The good news is, now that people are writing here in cyberspace they can not wiggle out of what is in their mind. For it is here cast in concrete for their children, and their children's children to see until the end of time.

    • 3 votes
    #1.42 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:04 PM EDT
    Beckyal

    NPR is paid for by taxpayers and donations. Why someone who was being honest got fired? I don't agreed with Juan in most cases but he has the right to say what he believes in. It is stupid for any organization to fire someone because they discuss a fear. Liberals are anti-freedom of speech unless it is them doing the speech. Overacting against one of their own is extreme even for a liberal station. Shame on them!!

    • 7 votes
    #1.43 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:05 PM EDT
    WakeUpPeople-1385514

    Not a single one, and this is exactly what I meant when I mentioned taqueya, it is a war.

    Oh! I thought you were saying my comment was a deception. My apologies. Then I agree with you. Wow, we actually agree on something!

    • 1 vote
    #1.44 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:05 PM EDT
    N. Hilton

    Go get 'em Juan, you are in the right, THEY ARE IN THE WRONG!

    We are losing all our rights, one by one. Freedom of speech , freedom of religion and what next? This is getting to be a DICTATORIAL Country.

    I hope Juan fights this issue and wins and I think they should fire the vice president of NPR.

    • 7 votes
    #1.45 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:06 PM EDT
    MastaCoz

    I hope my children read this one day. And they will say "Dad, is this how messed up society was back in your day?"

    and I will say, "Yes my child, and right after the largest war known to humankind was done, all problems went away forever."

    • 1 vote
    #1.46 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:11 PM EDT
    JustinPM

    What happened to freedom of speech?

    He was allowed to say what he wanted, whether or not NPR employs him or not is not a freedom of speech issue.

    Who runs the National Public Radio and why was Juan Williams not allowed to have a personal opinion.

    He can, but that doesn't mean that his personal opinion can't have professional repercussions. Especially if it's publicly expressed.

    If that makes him nervous then he has the right to say so!

    He certainly does. However, that doesn't mean that there can't be consequences.

    I can't understand why there is so much controversy in using the word Muslim. There are problems in many countries right now related directly to Muslim people, its a fact.

    Williams problem comes down to a question of image. He puts NPR in a position to have to question if he fits their image. If not, then he might have had to go. It seems that was the case.

    He was not reporting or on the job and did not interfere with their editorial standards and practices. I hope he fights them and wins!

    Pretty sure that there isn't much to fight. Contracts for public personalities are usually pretty iron-clad.

    • 6 votes
    #1.47 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT
    thelopes

    I hope Juan fights this issue and wins and I think they should fire the vice president of NPR.

    Government takeover and control of organizations? I thought people didn't want communism.

    • 4 votes
    #1.48 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:22 PM EDT
    taao

    N. Hilton

    We are losing all our rights, one by one. Freedom of speech , freedom of religion and what next? This is getting to be a DICTATORIAL Country.

    To late N. Hilton since Obama took office this country has been nothing more than a petty dictatorship...its not whats next, it is what is now. The American people need to stand up to this arrogant tyrant and prick and send him packing. Who needs to worry about the little North Korea tyrant when Obama is in the White House.

    • 3 votes
    #1.49 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:22 PM EDT
    TL-770512

    I think NPR is one of the few news media outlets that still has journalistic integrity. If Juan Williams was hired as a pundit, he would have still been within his job description, but he wasn't... he was hired as a news analyst. Here is what was written about his termination from Vivian Schiller, President and CEO of NPR:

    Thank you for all of your varying feedback on the Juan Williams situation. Let me offer some further clarification about why we terminated his contract early.

    First, a critical distinction has been lost in this debate. NPR News analysts have a distinctive role and set of responsibilities. This is a very different role than that of a commentator or columnist. News analysts may not take personal public positions on controversial issues; doing so undermines their credibility as analysts, and that’s what’s happened in this situation. As you all well know, we offer views of all kinds on your air every day, but those views are expressed by those we interview – not our reporters and analysts.

    Second, this isn’t the first time we have had serious concerns about some of Juan’s public comments. Despite many conversations and warnings over the years, Juan has continued to violate this principal.

    Third, these specific comments (and others made in the past), are inconsistent with NPR’s ethics code, which applies to all journalists (including contracted analysts):

    “In appearing on TV or other media . . . NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist. They should not participate in shows . . . that encourage punditry and speculation rather than fact-based analysis.”

    More fundamentally, “In appearing on TV or other media including electronic Web-based forums, NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist.”

    If Mr. Williams wants a job spouting out his opinions (championing causes and points of view while disparaging other causes and points of view), I'm sure he can easily find a job. Probably with FOX, along with their vast array of pundits, and he will probably be their new "Golden Boy."

    • 8 votes
    #1.50 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:25 PM EDT
    littlechanges

    blah, blah.

    Anyone interested in more than speculation and hot air ought check out how badly mgmt. is being slapped around by donors on the NPR site. Bonus: It's a tad more informative and ... the spelling is better.

    • 1 vote
    #1.51 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:31 PM EDT
    Painful Reality

    How would he feel if someone said the sight of him makes them nervous in public (and he did nothing wrong)... What a jackass !

    I guess he forgot about the days of two separate drinking fountains and public toilets... "Colored only" and "Whites only".

    • 1 vote
    #1.52 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:33 PM EDT
    Zoolopolis

    williams has a right to his opinions. NPR has the right to their opinion that that what he said is bigoted and fire him.

    What's fair for the goose is fair for the gander.

    He can go to his natural habitat at Faux News. Maybe he'll be the first black head anchor there.

    Help cook the Teanut goose. Vote this Nov. Paid for by Patriotic Fowl Hunters of America.

    "Be bery bery quiet. I'm hunting Teanuts. Heh,heh, heh.

    • 9 votes
    #1.53 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:33 PM EDT
    JoMan

    I figured it out! I did a journaling session with myself on page 3 of the comments and all this guy was is a scape goat for the hypocritical filth of Fox News. They needed someone that they could pretend they didn't like those "racist" comments from and then the had a pretend cow and fired him.

    Everyone knows that one of the main themes of FOX NEWS is - "People in Islamic Garb Makes Us Nervous". Who are they kidding. They totally agree with his statement.

    Give me a break - this is a bunch of crap from faux again and it stink to high heaven!

    • 2 votes
    #1.54 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:37 PM EDT
    pugface

    "...and if his saying so hurts NPR's credibility, they have the right to fire him."

    NPR has credibility? Who knew?

    • 3 votes
    #1.55 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:55 PM EDT
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    from the article above...here's the crux of the matter:

    ater Wednesday, NPR issued a statement saying Williams' remarks "were inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR."

    In other words, he gave his personal opinion on ANOTHER, the liberal elites didn't like it because it wasn't "politically correct" and cast a shadow on the new sacred cows in American; and therefore, they fired him.

    That is all you need to know about government controlled radio.

    • 4 votes
    #1.56 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:07 PM EDT
    Plantsmantx

    Greg Sergent at The Plum Line:

    The problem is that it's clear from the context that Williams wasn't merely confessing his own personal fears, he was reassuring O'Reilly that he was right to see all Muslims as potential terrorists. This is how he prefaced his remarks:

    Well, actually, I hate to say this to you because I don't want to get your ego going. But I think you're right. I think, look, political correctness can lead to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality.

    The thing is, the idea that one should be afraid of anyone who "looks Muslim" isn't reality, it's silliness. He wasn't speaking some brave truth or making a personal confession, he was suggesting there's nothing wrong with looking at Muslims that way.

    That's a genuine problem, especially for a news outlet as studiously neutral as NPR, which has gone so far as to bar reporters from attending the march being held by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. FOX News' treatment of Muslims also can't really be called news coverage -- given the sheer volume of falsehoods about Muslims and Islam it's injected into the national discourse, it's really more accurately described as a politically motivated smear campaign. Given NPR'spreviously expressed discomfort with Williams' affiliation with FOX, it's not surprising that they would feel that Williams had finally crossed a line. Indeed many of Williams's conservative defenders are objecting because they believe Williams was correct to look at complete strangers as potential terrorists just because they're Muslims, not because it's wrong to fire people for impolitic statements.


    • 5 votes
    #1.57 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:11 PM EDT
    logdump

    ...NPR...huh,really they still on the air.....sheeesh I need to get out more......


    Turn off limabugh and get the real story.

    As far as Williams goes this is not the first time he has tried to go the glen beck way and he is a bigot

    • 4 votes
    #1.58 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:03 PM EDT
    NiteOwlett

    NPR has it's standards and so does Fox News.

    Fox News doesn't have any regulars who are consistantly representing the left view of the world.

    NPR is pure to it's standards and I respect that aspect of their policies.

    The rest of the USA has no idea what true journalism is any longer.

    • 6 votes
    #1.59 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:11 PM EDT
    The Devil-1138528

    NPR has been a left winged extremist bastion for years. It is time that we end funding for what has become a propaganda piece for the Democratic party and every wacky "progressive" scheme. Juan Williams is entitled to be scared of Muslims if he wants. For this organization to fire him for speaking truthfully is a little shady and overreaching.

    • 4 votes
    #1.60 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:26 PM EDT
    Marshall James

    the left wing is very intolerant. everytime someone gets offended the left calls for the voice to be silenced.

    its their MO.

    • 7 votes
    #1.61 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:29 PM EDT
    Colodomom

    james....oh yeah, we silence everybody.

    You seem VERY silenced to me.

    (eye roll)

    What... is the 24 hour "news" organization dedicated to fear mongering and the big business right wing craziness not enough for you?

    • 5 votes
    #1.62 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:45 PM EDT
    Marshall James

    comprehension skills are lacking I see.

    I said calls for silence....not they are silenced.

    peace to you with two eye rolls.

    • 6 votes
    #1.63 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:49 PM EDT
    Colodomom

    james, what's the point of saying peace be with me if you don't mean it?

    Nope, my comprehension skills are just fine. You and I both knew what you meant by that statement. Splitting hairs doesn't change it.

    Oh and you might want to check to see how many times O'Reilly has said the words "shut up" to his guests that he disagrees with....

    What's that about glass houses?

    • 4 votes
    #1.64 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:54 PM EDT
    Marshall James

    you still claimed I stated something I did not......lets get your facts straight here.

    I am correct and I could care less about oreilly...I know this girl who everytime you say something she says...."stop it" does it mean she wants you to "stop it" no its a figure of speech with her.

    same as oreilly.....and seems to me he invites opposite opinions on his show all the time...not silencing speech at all. your goose is cooked.

    • 4 votes
    #1.65 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT
    rightvswrong

    Too bad for this guy but he'll recover. People slam Christians all the time and nothing is said, but say something negative regarding the Islamic heathens, and you get canned. They look stupid instead of threatening in their costumes though.

    • 2 votes
    #1.66 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:13 PM EDT
    Bill-Weeks

    In my opinion, NPR is not an honest source of news in the world. I've listened to the "news" coming out of NPR for many years and in my opinion it has always been opinion masquerading as news. I'm happy that NPR fired Juan; happy for Juan that he will have an infinitely better life and happy that we now have bright light shining on NPR.

    Now the next steps:

    • Make our displeasure known to NPR's corporate sponsors and affiliates.
    • Donate nothing to NPR.
    • Keep reminding Americans that NPR is a biased organization with little objective news reporting.
    • Donate money to organizations that aggressively investigate and report on biased NPR reporting.
    • 6 votes
    #1.67 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:18 PM EDT
    JustinPM

    If Mr. Williams wants a job spouting out his opinions (championing causes and points of view while disparaging other causes and points of view), I'm sure he can easily find a job. Probably with FOX, along with their vast array of pundits, and he will probably be their new "Golden Boy."

    Funny you should say that.

    • 2 votes
    #1.68 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:22 PM EDT
    George-369262

    I like Juan Williams, even if I [ almost ] never agree with him politically..... I hope that Rush suggests that everyone who wishes sends $1 to a legal fund for Juan.... I bet that millions of dollars flow into a legal fund for Juan...

    • 3 votes
    #1.69 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:11 PM EDT
    ZeroX

    Williams now knows first-hand how political correctness is destroying our freedom of speech. I hope he uses his experience to work towards dismantling PC in the media and government.

    What is amazing here is the blatant irony of the Left screaming about freedom of the press, freedom of speech, racism, the evils of the rich, and Fox News and then in one fell swoop they fire a black member of the media for speaking his mind on a news organization that is now being bought out by a billionaire Leftist.

    • 3 votes
    #1.70 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:35 AM EDT
    JustinPM

    Williams now knows first-hand how political correctness is destroying our freedom of speech.

    Ok, once more. It's not a question of freedom of speech. He was allowed to say what he wanted, and his employers have the ability to disagree with his point of view and view that he harms their integrity. Not a freedom of speech thing. As far as PC, racial profiling isn't "Politically Incorrect", more than it is "A fear that you're letting take hold of you".

    What is amazing here is the blatant irony of the Left screaming about freedom of the press, freedom of speech, racism, the evils of the rich, and Fox News and then in one fell swoop they fire a black member of the media for speaking his mind on a news organization that is now being bought out by a billionaire Leftist.

    Where has his race come into this?

    • 6 votes
    #1.71 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:29 AM EDT
    AZPADDY

    Jim DeMint wants to cut any federal funding of NPR?? I'm skocked....SHOCKED!! That a Republican would want to hurt NPR!!

    No loud screaming car commercials, no loudmouthed, bloviating know-it-all blatherers, no corporate biased reporting, no conservative slant to their reporting and no emotional histrionics from their program hosts.

    No wonder DeMint doesn't like NPR.

    • 6 votes
    #1.72 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:21 AM EDT
    Our First Amendment

    We should not federally fund a liberal media. Firing Williams was a big mistake, because that's basically what the internal memo says and everyone knows it is a liberal bastion. When you use peoples tax-money to fund journalism it has to be fair and not Lean in any one favor. A liberal news show has been proven not to be able to self sustain itself already, ask Al Frankin!

    • 1 vote
    #1.73 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:43 AM EDT
    Chunky-Monkey

    Really sad that this has happened to Juan Williams, and then have the CEO of NPR attack him on national TV. She needs to be fired. However, George Sorros that donated 2 mil to NPR is pulling the strings and going after anyone that speaks out and against the Democraticparty and Obama. Sorros and the Democratic party have been trying to shut down and shut up the people on Fox News. Our current administration is taking away the people's rights of Freedom of Speech, and are censoring the media. This is why the local news media aren't reporting things like they should be doing. Our government is controlling the local media, or they get black-listed or shut down.

    Williams only spoke what he felt, he didn't express and opinion.

    • 2 votes
    #1.74 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:03 AM EDT
    angelaisafan

    A liberal news show has been proven not to be able to self sustain itself already, ask Al Frankin!

    Two opposing beliefs held simultaneously.

    liberal bastion / proven not to be able to self sustain.

    bastion- n. A well-fortified position.

    • 4 votes
    #1.75 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:04 AM EDT
    Plantsmantx

    I hope he uses his experience to work towards dismantling PC in the media and government.

    Williams is now a 100% Fox News shill, which means that anything he says from now on will be preaching to the choir. From now on, he'll have about as much credibility with the public at large as Victoria Jackson does. That means he won't be very effective at trying to bring about the primacy of right-wing "PC", which is what right-wingers really mean when they say things like "dismantle PC".

    • 2 votes
    #1.76 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:08 AM EDT
    agagnu

    Yeah, so is freedom of garb that makes one feel uncomfortable, like many Fox commentators showing more legs than CNN and MsnBC put together.

    Williams should not have served two opposing "masters" and claim freedom of speech. He is now a happier slave with Fox like the rest of them.

    An apology to the offended garbed ladies on the plane is awaited.

    • 2 votes
    #1.77 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
    TL-770512

    George-369262: he doesn't need a legal fund. It is not his right ot have a job with NPR and he had every right to say what he did... but, of course that is what cost him his job that he has no legal right to hold. Besides which, as Justin pointed out, he just landed a better paying job exactly because he lost the NPR gig.

    Chunky-Monkey: "Williams only spoke what he felt, he didn't express and opinion."

    You didn't seriously mean that, did you? Feelings are just that... your perception and opinion... not facts and not unbiased. Much like "I feel dogs are inferior to cats." That's an freakin' opinion!

    • 3 votes
    #1.78 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:07 PM EDT
    Dr Know

    As is usual in PC cases a part of what someone said is taken out of the context of the REST of what he said.

    Mr. Williams admitted to a human reaction THEN went on to say that he and the rest of us has to work to overcome that.

    The bosses at NPR were indeed looking for a reason to fire him. The people here agreeing with that action are ignoring the entire statement to justify the action on a single phrase.

    Do they also support the action in that he was fired over the phone. His "boss" said there was no reason for them to face him. He was fired from 'above'. Cowards afraid to tell a man to his face that his services were no longer required.

    • 1 vote
    #1.79 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:30 PM EDT
    Brandon-801865

    Who?

    • 1 vote
    #1.80 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:03 PM EDT
    AZPADDY

    Our First Amemdement # 1.73

    NPR will stand on its own if they lose the roughly 6% of its annual budget that is derived directly from the feds. Listeners like me will increase their support, and so will an entire nation of public radio fans and celebrities. Conservatives hate NPR simply because NPR tells the truth about conservatives.

    Jim DeMint is the one who loses when he targets NPR. He and other pols who target NPR will live to regret it. Do not underestimate the power of public radio and NPR!!

    • 3 votes
    #1.81 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:32 PM EDT
    james ca.

    I feel more comfortable donating to NPR now that they have made it clear they do not support the world view of FAUX NEWS. Jaun Williams always made me feel uncomfortable (though I've never sat next to him on a plane). He enters the world of FAUX NEWS and tries to play good cop coming of as moderate compared to the extreme views of FAUX NEWS, but he would all too often accept (in this instance Bill O'Lies) false reality and stay within that context while playing good cop. When he in my mind should have simply declared him wrong, even if followed by the whole "I'm not a bigot, but..." speech. That may have been O.K. in my mind, He outright said, Bill O'Lies was right to fear all Islam, You just have to be careful doing so. I do not think that is a good fit for NPR. And I am glad he is gone. And even more happy he has found a new home where he can finally speak his mind in a context that is more accommodating to his views.

    • 4 votes
    #1.82 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:00 PM EDT
    Billy Liu

    If Juan williams wins, it should be ok for me to say its scary seeing a black person wearing a doo rag(don't know how to spell it), it should be ok for me to say its scary to see a latino person with a tatoo and it should be ok for me.

    Williams did not break any laws, but by going on air he represents the voice of NPR. Herego they can fire him.

    If I was a fox commentator and then while I was not on the job went on CNN and said glenn beck is stupid, don't you think I'd get fired even if i thought it was just an opinion?

    What worries me most is that the republicans haven't denounced his mesasge.

    • 1 vote
    #1.83 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:11 AM EDT
    Dr Know

    What does "herego" mean? It is not an English word.

    It is ok for you to say what you said in the first sentence.

    Has anyone read his ENTIRE statement? Why is it that they (NPR) focused on the first half of his statement and not the second half?

      #1.84 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:56 AM EDT
      AZPADDY

      Dr Know #1.83

      "Why is it that they (sic) (NPR) focused on the first half of his statement and not the second half?"

      Why is it that you're focused on what NPR does with a problematic employee?

      And, since you seem concerned with grammar, I'm calling you out on your misspelling. it's they're....not "they"......."Dr Know".

        #1.85 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:01 AM EDT
        Billy Liu

        sorry I meant erego. Sorry for misspelling dr.know.

        Enlighten us DrKnow. What was the rest of the statement?

          #1.86 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:11 PM EDT
          Billy Liu

          I listen to his statement. And the rest of it and I should say this.

          A fox news poll says 97 percent believes Juan Williams is right, and I myself think would be a little worried about muslims on the airplane. But I also understand that that fear is irrational and that one attack should not make the image of muslims.

          Juan Williams is making sound like its ok to be afraid of muslims. And I don't support it. We probably all have a slight fear of muslims. But its irrational and we need to conquer it.

          • 1 vote
          #1.87 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:23 PM EDT
          Wintersnows

          I always get searched and I am old, fat, female, blonde and green eyed. I have never NOT been searched . I am the "proof" that there will be no profiling? I dunno.

          Everyone should be able to voice their fears, otherwise, they will never be dealt with. I think a lot of people are afraid of a lot of other people. Maybe we need to have this be part of a dialog instead of a PC pissing contest. So unless it is an emergency? As for flying?

          I'll drive thanks.

          • 1 vote
          #1.88 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:31 PM EDT
          TL-770512

          sorry I meant erego. Sorry for misspelling dr.know

          You actually meant "ergo." ;-)

            #1.89 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:30 PM EDT
            Reply
            American Dreams

            He's another victm of Political Correctness gone wild. Haven forbid - he admited the truth about himself that most Americans feel - Muslims on airplanes make him nervous. Under the circumstances can you blame him? It wasn't blacks, whites, browns or yellows who turned an everyday flight on a plane into a death machine. It isn't blacks, whites, browns or yellows who are blowing up markets full of innocent people, it isn't blacks, whites, browns or yellows who kidnap journalists and Aid workers then kill them by sawing their heads off. NPR really over stepped their bounds and trampled his 1st Amendment rights.

            • 27 votes
            #2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:58 AM EDT
            thelopes

            NPR really over stepped their bounds and trampled his 1st Amendment rights.

            He is a face of the NPR - they believe his actions have undermined him with their organization.

            How exactly does this trample any rights, exactly?

            I mean, really - he can say what he wants, but it doesn't entitle him to whatever employment he wants. If a worker at McDonald's swears and yells at a customer, can they also not be fired for misrepresenting their organization?

            • 13 votes
            #2.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:26 PM EDT
            Concerned Citizen-1303521

            I am assuming that everyone here arguing against his dismissal also argued against the dismissal of Helen Thomas?

            • 12 votes
            #2.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:27 PM EDT
            RV in GB#1

            Helen Thomas was not fired - she retired. American Dreams hit the nail on the head.

            • 9 votes
            #2.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:30 PM EDT
            greg-709692

            NPR fired him because his comments trampled on NPR ideology, period!

            And him being on Fox news had nothing to do with it, Naaahhhh!

            No wonder all the Progressive channels keep diving deeper into the ibis.

            Problem you folks have, you won't figure it out until your show is cancelled, Like "Air America".

            "Progressives" are a job creator for "Conservatives".

            • 10 votes
            #2.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
            Marshall James

            big difference....he was actually pointing out his insecurities....how he felt uncomfortable..how it was muslims who did 9/11 and how he now "felt" insecure.....that is not saying the people on the plane were bad in any way...it was him pointing out his own fears.

            big difference from what that hatemonger thomas said.

            • 14 votes
            #2.5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
            douglasq

            he admited the truth about himself that most Americans feel

            Can you cite any poll that supports this? No, of course not. You just project your own feelings onto others and assume they are right. Don't.

            • 10 votes
            #2.6 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:32 PM EDT
            bonos_rama

            I am assuming that everyone here arguing against his dismissal also argued against the dismissal of Helen Thomas?

            Ouch. I forgot about that.

            • 5 votes
            #2.7 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:32 PM EDT
            Louie Lou

            You're so right American Dreams. It wasn't blacks, whites. browns, yellows etc. that did all those things. It wasn't the Muslims either. It was Extremists who hide behind a religion to justify their actions. They are the ones who did it.

            • 8 votes
            #2.8 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:36 PM EDT
            bonos_rama

            Frankly, if a woman got on the air and said that she felt uncomfortable being on airplanes with men because every last terrorist that ever blew a plane out of the sky or flew it into a building was male, she would get the axe, too. And yet she would be 100% correct. People don't REALLY want freedom of speech; not if it's unpolitically correct to the group that they belong to.

            • 2 votes
            #2.9 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:47 PM EDT
            douglasq

            NPR fired him because his comments trampled on NPR ideology, period!

            And him being on Fox news had nothing to do with it, Naaahhhh!

            So how long have you been an executive at NPR? I mean, obviously, you must be one because you claim to have the inside scoop on this.

            • 4 votes
            #2.10 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:49 PM EDT
            Concerned Citizen-1303521

            greg

            keep diving deeper into the ibis.

            I had to laugh at this.

            Deeper into the ibis, lol

            I suppose it's not necessary for you to learn now, abyss is a word most of the Religious Right will learn all too well eventually.

            • 7 votes
            #2.11 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:52 PM EDT
            Plantsmantx

            NPR fired him because his comments trampled on NPR ideology, period!

            If NPR's ideology involves not thinking someone is going to blow up the plane you're on because of what they're wearing, then I'm glad they fired him because he trampled on their ideology.

            • 7 votes
            #2.12 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:58 PM EDT
            willynilly

            It would be allright if Williams was a muslim. Hell, I'm sure even muslims get nervous when they see identifiable muslims on a plane!!

            • 2 votes
            #2.13 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:14 PM EDT
            douglasq

            It would be allright if Williams was a muslim. Hell, I'm sure even muslims get nervous when they see identifiable muslims on a plane!!

            [facepalm]

            • 8 votes
            #2.14 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:20 PM EDT
            elsabio

            So now PC dictates how a person is supposed to FEEL? R u fking kidding me? Talk about tryanny!

            • 2 votes
            #2.15 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:37 PM EDT
            angelaisafan

            It wasn't blacks, whites, browns or yellows who turned an everyday flight on a plane into a death machine. It isn't blacks, whites, browns or yellows who are blowing up markets full of innocent people, it isn't blacks, whites, browns or yellows who kidnap journalists and Aid workers then kill them by sawing their heads off. NPR really over stepped their bounds and trampled his 1st Amendment rights.

            Muslims are persons with black, white, brown and yellow skin pigment.

            Tim Mc Veigh self described American Patriot drove a truck bomb into a Federal building. Mc Veigh and co defendant Terry Nichols planned to take their country back. (act of war) Are you afraid of guys who look like Mc Veigh and Terry Nichols? FBI reports indicate Patriot/ Armed milita membership is on the rise.

            • 6 votes
            #2.16 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:38 PM EDT
            thelopes

            Talk about tryanny!

            The government is not involved here.

            Private businesses have always been tyrannies over their employees.

            • 4 votes
            #2.17 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:41 PM EDT
            800 lb. gorilla

            american dreams

            It isn't blacks, whites, browns or yellows who are blowing up markets full of innocent people, it isn't blacks, whites, browns or yellows who kidnap journalists

            what color do you think muslims are? there are black, brown, and white muslims all over the world. it is bigoted to discriminate against someone based upon their race, ethnicity, skin color, religion, etc.

            • 8 votes
            #2.18 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:48 PM EDT
            determined0a1

            Helen Thomas was safe in the first row until she asked uncomfortable questions.

            • 4 votes
            #2.19 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:51 PM EDT
            douglasq

            NPR really over stepped their bounds and trampled his 1st Amendment rights.

            Are you kidding me? Nowhere in the Bill of Rights does it say you are guaranteed a network job to exercise your right to free speech. Williams can say whatever he wants. NPR is free to ask him to do it elsewhere.

            • 8 votes
            #2.20 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:05 PM EDT
            TL-770512

            He was not hired by NPR to give opinions. He violated his job description and also made suspect all the news analysis he has given over the years as an ANALYST... not a pundit or opinion commentator.

            • 2 votes
            #2.21 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:29 PM EDT
            Louie Lou

            Here's a quote by Cynthia Tucker of the Atlanta Journal Constitution:

            "Note to Juan Williams' fans: His 1st amendment rights are intact. He just won't be paid for them."

            • 5 votes
            #2.22 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:38 PM EDT
            JoMan

            I guess here we have the fine line of ones professional job balanced by one's personal feelings. So when you go on O'Reilly's show and he gets all chum chum with you - just keep it professional and tell him he's a dip @!$%#, which he is, but in one's heart the guy will really know how he feels, which makes him a dip @!$%#.

            And the bull @!$%# goes on.

            Ack - time to go for a walk and breathe the fresh air...

              #2.23 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:51 PM EDT
              pugface

              Diving deeper into the ibis? That's really "fowl".

              • 2 votes
              #2.24 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:52 PM EDT
              JoMan

              I think there are migratory bird laws being broken here.

                #2.25 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:59 PM EDT
                mojo31979

                NPR really over stepped their bounds and trampled his 1st Amendment rights.

                Wrong again! He said what he wanted to and now he is paying the consequences. There is NO criminal activity involved in his firing. If I said something similar at my job, where there are plenty of people who worship Islam. I would probably be fired too.

                His comment was ignorant, more than anything. There are more religions in the middle-east than just Islam. There's Judaism, The Bahá'í, The Druze, Christianity, Yazdânism, and others. Yet you can't tell the difference between them simply from their garb. Sorry, but a lot of people who live in that region wear similar clothing. Unless you're talking about burqa's, but only women wear those.

                I mean, really - he can say what he wants, but it doesn't entitle him to whatever employment he wants. If a worker at McDonald's swears and yells at a customer, can they also not be fired for misrepresenting their organization?

                My state is considered a "right to work state" which essentially means you can be fired for practically any reason. I can give you the axe simply because I don't like "the cut of your jib" and there's almost nothing you can do about it.

                • 4 votes
                #2.26 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:06 PM EDT
                Plantsmantx

                Here's a quote by Cynthia Tucker of the Atlanta Journal Constitution:

                "Note to Juan Williams' fans: His 1st amendment rights are intact. He just won't be paid for them."

                Exactly.

                • 5 votes
                #2.27 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:12 PM EDT
                logdump

                Oh shut the hell up about political correctness if he had said he get nervous when he sees a white man get on the plane you would be all over him get real. You people do not likke NPR because they tell the truth and expose your lies

                • 7 votes
                #2.28 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:04 PM EDT
                greg-709692

                @ concerned:

                Comment #2.11

                I thought ibis fit pretty well.

                usually feed as a group, probing mud for food items

                • 2 votes
                #2.29 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:18 PM EDT
                Concerned Citizen-1303521

                so you felt news programs were diving deeper into a bird... and you think that fit pretty well...

                ok.

                  #2.30 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:22 PM EDT
                  JoMan

                  so you felt news programs were diving deeper into a bird... and you think that fit pretty well...

                  I concur with that poster... the more I read on both sides of this issue the more I find myself knee deep in bird doo doo.

                    #2.31 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:56 PM EDT
                    American Dreams

                    for you trying to spin the race thing out of my comment let me remind you...Muslim is not a race...it is a cultural identity with very strick rules to dress, behavior for both men and woment that transcends race. It is a form of religious brainwashing.

                      #2.32 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:05 PM EDT
                      JoMan

                      It is a form of religious brainwashing.

                      Yeeeaaahhhh Religious brainwashing....

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNvnLFgH5BU&feature=related

                      • 1 vote
                      #2.33 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:25 PM EDT
                      logdump

                      So is christanity

                      • 2 votes
                      #2.34 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:26 PM EDT
                      JoMan

                      Logdump - check out my link - it's the creepiest thing ever. Those kids are probably, what, 25, 30 by now and thick in the teabagger movement or at home polishing their weapons arsenal in their basement lockers.

                      • 2 votes
                      #2.35 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:34 PM EDT
                      American Dreams

                      logdump I agree.

                      But modern Christain brainwashing doesn't concur with lying to further Christanity and it doesn't use killing as a means to accomplish the goal of spreading world wide domination of their religuous belief,

                        #2.36 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:53 PM EDT
                        George-369262

                        'he can say what he wants, but it doesn't entitle him to whatever employment he wants' That is exactly how I feel about Marxist college professors.

                          #2.37 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:15 PM EDT
                          james ca.

                          AmericanDreams: Let's see some examples of Islam taking over the world with the goal of world domination please. You are probably thinking of Islamist terrorist using terror to achieve their political agenda. This includes taking over Islam. Islam is an enemy of Islamist just as Christianity is. Here is what Islam thinks of Christianity: http://www.suite101.com/content/why-do-muslims-accept-other-religions-a137857Most religions seem to have similar goals of spreading their message of faith as that of the one true God. That is the only reason I see for all this Islamophobia by people of non-Islamic faith. You guys are on different teams playing the same stupid game. At least Islam teaches Jesus was a real man. That I can respect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

                          The Qur'an, considered by Muslims to be God's final and authoritative revelation to humankind, mentions Jesus twenty-five times.[2]It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God rather than his own power. According to Islamic texts, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was raised alive up to heaven.[3] Islamic tradition and commentaries states that he will return to Earth near the day of judgment to restore justice and, with the Mahdi, defeat al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist)[4][5].

                          Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim, as he preached that his followers should adopt the "straight path" in submission to God's will. Islam rejects the idea that Jesus was God incarnate or the son of God, that he was ever crucified or resurrected, or that he ever atoned for the sins of mankind.

                          Now those are fighting words to a Christian! As for me I do not need to make claim to what God is real or what God is not real. This is just a "mine is bigger than yours" thing. And the only people I see grabbing their crotches like idiots are the Christian/Mormon/Evangelical type religious folks. The Islamist terrorist are a separate breed than Islam/Muslims. To connect the two as a tool to treat Muslims as you would want to treat Islamist is just dirty. A foul ball. If you are going to play the game of self righteousness then at least have the decency to play fair. After all god is watching and playing referee right? He is keeping score. And right now some people are close to being kicked off the feild for acting foul and unacceptable towards the opposing team. Everyone needs to shake hands and respect one another already. Stop tring to bitch slap Muslims for what Islamist terrorist did - it just makes you look bad - probably in the eyes of god too.

                          • 2 votes
                          #2.38 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:04 AM EDT
                          JustinPM

                          But modern Christain brainwashing doesn't concur with lying to further Christanity

                          Well the world is 6000 years old, and evolution is just a theory. Or at least that's what I've heard from some Christians.

                          and it doesn't use killing as a means to accomplish the goal of spreading world wide domination of their religuous belief,

                          I think Dr. Tiller might disagree with you. The Christian faith is not an innocent organization. Look at the child sex scandals. That alone makes them just as bad as any other religion in my eyes. It took far too long for them to try a mea culpa for their transgressions.

                          • 2 votes
                          #2.39 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:53 AM EDT
                          AZPADDY

                          To all the conservatives who suddenly see Juan Williams as a victim of liberal bias:

                          Get over it. Williams is a big boy, and he should know he had it coming. How many other "journalists" are allowed to work at two opposing networks - one famous for its biased conservative slant that promotes misinformation and has literally poisoned the airwaves of this nation, and the other that is the 180 degree opposite of that??

                          For too long, Williams thumbed his nose at NPR, and finally got what he was asking for.

                          He's fired from NPR....He belongs in Murdich's and O'Reilly's laps.....get over it.

                          • 3 votes
                          #2.40 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:35 AM EDT
                          james ca.

                          Still waiting for one example of where Muslims are vying for world domination!

                          • 1 vote
                          #2.41 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:46 PM EDT
                          NiteOwlett

                          Williams was under CONTRACT to NPR and had agreed to the terms when he signed it. This has nothing to do with 1st Amendment rights and everything to do with being responsible for your contractual agreements.

                          On a personal level, he should have kept his mouth shut, but working ALSO with Fox NonNews, that was obviously impossible. His attitude was not NPR material and he had to go.

                          • 2 votes
                          #2.42 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:36 PM EDT
                          james ca.

                          He has already (in his first FAUX NEWS article) called his previous employer (NPR) "...self-righteous ideological, left-wing leadership at NPR". That is not an opinion one takes on overnight. Clearly they were not a good fit, and they feel the same way about eachother. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/10/21/juan-williams-npr-fired-truth-muslim-garb-airplane-oreilly-ellen-weiss-bush/

                          • 2 votes
                          #2.43 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:43 PM EDT
                          james ca.

                          Here is that link again siting tolerance of other religions according to Islam. The word "MOST" from the next sentence after the link in above msg.#2.38 got stuck as part of the link at the end.

                          http://www.suite101.com/content/why-do-muslims-accept-other-religions-a137857

                          • 1 vote
                          #2.44 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:19 PM EDT
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                          JAVE

                          He didn't follow the script so he was shown the door. They wanted him out of there before the midterm elections. This was just a justification for firing him.

                          Is what he said so radical and outlandish? Should he of had to lie about the question and parrot the managment's party line to save his job?

                          • 13 votes
                          Reply#3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:23 AM EDT
                          Colodomom

                          He made the comment to O'Reilly...so what script are you suggesting he was shown at the door?

                          No, what he said isn't radical or outlandish, but it shows (just like O'Reilly) that he possesses a lack of understanding that not all muslims have dark skin, wear "muslim garb", or have terrorist ideas. It was a ding-dong comment and had he been working for me, I would have fired him too. I don't blame NPR one bit. If he wants to spout that uneducated and obtuse point of view, I'm sure FOX will hire him full time.

                          Don't worry, he won't be homeless.

                          Bill O'Reilly's comment on the View was pure idiocy. There were Muslim-Americans killed in those towers on 9-11. There are Muslim-Americans IN OUR MILITARY, fighting for our country just like every other military member.

                          Seriously, the islamophobia has driven into crazytown....and it needs to stop.

                          • 4 votes
                          #3.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:02 PM EDT
                          douglasq

                          No, what he said isn't radical or outlandish, but it shows (just like O'Reilly) that he possesses a lack of understanding that not all muslims have dark skin, wear "muslim garb", or have terrorist ideas.

                          Exactly. Does he get nervous being on the same plane as Cat Stevens? Cassius Clay? Ferdinand Alcindor, Jr. (Yeah, I know. If I were him, I would have changed it to Kareem, too.)?

                          • 2 votes
                          #3.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:09 PM EDT
                          d burger

                          The very simple truth is that he was not fired for what he said. He was fired because the Marxist George Soros that is attempting to destroy the United States Economy and form a New World Order gave 1.8 Million dollars to NPR and told them to attack Fox News and anyone associated with them. He was fired to stop free speech on Fox News. Do you want George Soros owning the journalists of this Country?

                          • 1 vote
                          #3.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:51 PM EDT
                          JustinPM

                          The very simple truth is that he was not fired for what he said. He was fired because the Marxist George Soros that is attempting to destroy the United States Economy and form a New World Order gave 1.8 Million dollars to NPR and told them to attack Fox News and anyone associated with them. He was fired to stop free speech on Fox News. Do you want George Soros owning the journalists of this Country?

                          I hear Reynolds wrap works real well, or you could provide a source stating that NPR is subject to reporting on Fox News in a demeaning way.

                          • 4 votes
                          #3.4 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:58 AM EDT
                          Dr Know

                          People do not think any of his rights were violated?

                          He was fired over the telephone.

                            #3.5 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:33 PM EDT
                            TL-770512

                            ....and I've been hired over the phone. What's your point?

                            • 2 votes
                            #3.6 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:07 PM EDT
                            Dr Know

                            If you have to ask, you will not understand.

                            He was not hired over the phone. MOST places do not hire people over the phone without prior contact. I suspect you were not either. Once "hired" over the phone did you go to the Human Resources office to accept the job or did you just report to your work station? If you went to HR that is when you were HIRED. You were notified that you would be hired.

                              #3.7 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:00 AM EDT
                              TL-770512

                              Dear Dr Know(nothing about me):

                              In fact, a verbal agreement was made over the phone followed by a written contract mailed to me at my home and returned to the company upon my execution of the document. That was followed by shipping vouchers for my personal effects and plane tickets to my new home halfway around the globe.

                              It may be "bad form" to fire someone on the phone, but what does that have to do with anything?

                                #3.8 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:36 PM EDT
                                Reply
                                American Dreams

                                Jave you could be right...he didn't speak glowingly of Obama and his Administration so he had to go.

                                • 14 votes
                                Reply#4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:25 AM EDT
                                determined0a1

                                Who will be next in the NPR? Juan Williams earned my respect.

                                • 3 votes
                                #4.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:01 PM EDT
                                vol fan in chatt, tn

                                I didn't always agree with Juan, but at least he wasn't like some of the vitriolic liberals like Bill Maher...he will land on his feet and maybe find out that conservatives are better friends than his libby buddies.

                                • 1 vote
                                #4.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:11 PM EDT
                                ThinksbeforejudgingDeleted
                                AZPADDY

                                Thinksbefore...

                                Odd how conservatives are suddenly looking for those damned attorneys who take advantage of our legal system to get rich and hurt the poor insurance companies, huh?

                                Can you say "Tort reform"? Try it: T O R T...R E F O R M. It's in all the Republican lobbyist's publications.

                                • 1 vote
                                #4.4 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:43 AM EDT
                                PCMan-615609

                                AZ

                                Can you say “bitter left wing liberal who is well aware they only have a few more days of radical rule so they decide to take the low road of irresponsible trolling”…….???? Say it again…….!!!!

                                • 1 vote
                                #4.5 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:04 AM EDT
                                AZPADDY

                                "Radical rule"??

                                Conservative extremists pounce on the justifiable dismissal of a controversial employee by NPR...and you make the giant leap to somehow connect the action to some imagined "Radical rule"??

                                Wow! How does it feel to be part of a movement that is blindly following a cadre of idiot leaders in ruining the nation??

                                Or, to put it in language you can easily grasp: Why do you hate freedom??

                                • 1 vote
                                #4.6 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:06 AM EDT
                                ZeroX

                                This more proof of the intolerance of the left and their agenda. Juan Williams should be entitled to the constitutional right of free speech. NPR like most liberal organizations fully supports free speech. Only if you are agreeing with them. This is a perfect example of the Left rejecting truth when it conflicts with their ideology.

                                Did NPR ever hear of free speech; expression of opinion. Is everyone that works for NPR expected to keep their opinions to themselves and only espouse what NPR allows?
                                National Propaganda Radio. What the station should be called. All one side - no diversity, no freedom of expression.

                                • 2 votes
                                #4.7 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:32 PM EDT
                                PCMan-615609

                                Wow! How does it feel to be part of a movement that is blindly following a cadre of idiot leaders in ruining the nation??

                                I have lived watching you liberals perform that very action for the last (2) years…….You tell me…!!!

                                Or, to put it in language you can easily grasp: Why do you hate freedom??

                                Oh contraire……I love freedom and anxiously await it’s appearance next month…..

                                • 2 votes
                                #4.8 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:52 PM EDT
                                TL-770512

                                ZeroX: I don't think you have read most of these posts... you certainly don't understand "Freedom of Speech" and the laws that protect it.

                                I have no idea what you do for a living, but if you work in an office, and the office has rules of conduct, you can be fired if you do not follow those rules. If the office rules say employees may not make or take personal phone calls on company time, then you can be terminated if you violate that rule.

                                It is your Constitutional right to speak to whomever you want and communicate as you please to those people... but if you have voluntarily placed yourself under the office rules of your employer by accepting a job, you have agreed to curtail your "freedom" to speak to whomever you want, when you want, and to say what you want between the hours of 8:00 - 5:00. Get it?

                                In the case of Mr. Williams, his employment contract stated that he must curtail spouting opinions on public forums because he is a public figure associated as an Analyst (this job is the opposite of what Bill O'Reily and Co. do) with a news outlet. He was always free to share opinions in his private life and with friends, family, etc.

                                • 2 votes
                                #4.9 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:53 PM EDT
                                Reply
                                Mary-268849

                                Juan is one of the few liberals that deserve respect because he's more honest about it and knows it's limits. Sorry, Juan. This is just politically correct liberal bullsh**.

                                NPR and the MSM are Islamophobic. They're afraid to criticize muslims for anything because they might get their heads cut off by one, or a phone call from the White House Imam.

                                But, they have no problem running anti-Christian specials and bashing Catholics all week during Easter. What a bunch of loons. Very destructive people!

                                • 10 votes
                                #5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:03 AM EDT
                                thelopes

                                They're afraid to criticize muslims for anything

                                So, they should be criticizing Muslims for what... using airplanes? Looking Muslim? Frightening people by being who they are, and consumers?

                                • 8 votes
                                #5.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:19 PM EDT
                                LogicalVoter

                                They're afraid to criticize muslims for anything

                                Another bigot bites the dust. And I bet Fox would've promoted him for that statement...

                                • 6 votes
                                #5.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:33 PM EDT
                                bonos_rama

                                Mary, do you feel it was unfair to fire the journalist a couple of weeks ago for insulting Jewish people?

                                • 3 votes
                                #5.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:33 PM EDT
                                greg-709692

                                How did Juan insult "Muslims" with his comment?

                                Are you a "VIEW" fan.

                                • 4 votes
                                #5.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:39 PM EDT
                                bonos_rama

                                I've never watched it. Are you?

                                Are you a fan of political correctness? In other words, were you upset when a journalist said something that "many people feel about the banking industry" (to paraphrase a comment from up above)?

                                We are either politically correct all of the time or have freedom of speech all of the time. Which is it to be - that's the question. Does an insult or perceived insult merit a firing?

                                  #5.5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:49 PM EDT
                                  greg-709692

                                  Liberals, Geez a thousand times Over!

                                  What does the "Banking Industry" have to do with Juan?

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #5.6 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:53 PM EDT
                                  Apples

                                  No Muslim was harmed in the making of this program. ;p

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #5.7 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:55 PM EDT
                                  Colodomom

                                  Apparently no tinfoil hats were harmed either....since there seems to be A LOT of them here.

                                  care for some tea?

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #5.8 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:10 PM EDT
                                  Apples

                                  care for some tea?

                                  Why? Do you want to party (says in purring voice)? ;p

                                    #5.9 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:05 PM EDT
                                    vol fan in chatt, tn

                                    There's gonna be some TEA come Nov 2...

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #5.10 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:13 PM EDT
                                    ThinksbeforejudgingDeleted
                                    vol fan in chatt, tn

                                    Glenn Beck would be, since he calls for violence against groups of people and incites people to violence)

                                    Really? Source (in context please).

                                      #5.12 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:03 PM EDT
                                      PCMan-615609

                                      Mary is right on this issue..... NPR appears to be afraid to allow people to speak their own minds on the subject of Muslims, when they are NOT calling for violence against Muslims unlike one Glenn Beck.

                                      ....are you thinking before judging....???

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #5.13 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:53 PM EDT
                                      logdump

                                      Juan Williams a Liberal? Oj thats right anybody who is not a hardright wingnut is a liberal by their standards. Man git the can because he probably violated part of his contract which may state you cannot make derogatory remarks based on race creed or religions and this certainly does.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #5.14 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:32 PM EDT
                                      JustinPM

                                      Another bigot bites the dust. And I bet Fox would've promoted him for that statement...

                                      They did.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #5.15 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:00 AM EDT
                                      AZPADDY

                                      Juan William's firing was imminent. He was well aware that he was pushing the envelope of ethical conduct, but chose to pander to "Idiot America" on FOX News.

                                      The proof of that is in the headline: "Williams: NPR was looking for a reason to fire him."

                                      How did he know that? He knew he was willfully violating his employment terms with NPR for at least two years, and now feigns shock and surprise that he was actually terminated. The real fault lies in not firing him two years ago. He came to believe he could stay on at NPR, using that high profile status as a springboard to a lucrative spot on FOX, without having to be responsible.

                                      NPR should have let him go a long time ago, and now must deal with the consequences. In the short term, FOX and their easily led viewers will enjoy some P.R. success, but in the end, NPR will remain, and be the better for it.

                                      Good luck in making NPR another ACORN, the public will not stand for it.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #5.16 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:27 AM EDT
                                      Reply
                                      Driftwood1

                                      We're so "politically correct" now that people have to lie instead of just being honest and stating the obvious. Lovely.

                                      • 21 votes
                                      Reply#6 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:03 AM EDT
                                      Louie Lou

                                      We're so "politically correct" now that people have to lie instead of just being honest and stating the obvious.

                                      What exactly is obvious to you, Driftwood?

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #6.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:41 PM EDT
                                      Colodomom

                                      Louie Lou:

                                      I guess driftwood considers it obvious that someone "wearing muslim garb on a plane" would be a person to fear.

                                      Ya know...since that little light-up box in the livingroom has been saying to be VERY scared for about 9 years now.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #6.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:12 PM EDT
                                      Tip4ya

                                      It's a shame! We've become too PC for our own good.

                                        #6.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:42 PM EDT
                                        Janie Ackerly

                                        Wakeup, if you think using big words make you big, it doesn't. No one said they should not be here or practice their religion. But they need to understand that we also live here and have our own beliefs. We don't have to bend over backward and let them change the way we live, it's up to them since they are coming here to enjoy our freedoms to adapt to the way we live.

                                        If they don't like it let them go back where they came from.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #6.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:16 PM EDT
                                        Reply
                                        Dr Know

                                        NPR has been a left leaning organization for a long time.

                                        Mr. Williams stated a feeling that he (and a LOT of others) has.

                                        The "View" should be named "The View from the Left".

                                        • 10 votes
                                        Reply#7 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:13 AM EDT
                                        douglasq

                                        The "View" should be named "The View from the Left".

                                        Since when is The View in any way connected with NPR?

                                        • 6 votes
                                        #7.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:34 PM EDT
                                        AZPADDY

                                        douglasq

                                        Dr Know considers him/herself quite the authority on all things....well, all things.

                                        The View isn't connected to NPR except in the fevered dreams of conservative extremists. It's all a vast left wing liberal conspiricy, dontcha' know, and the lamestream media is in on it too.

                                        Right, Dr Know??

                                          #7.2 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:10 AM EDT
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                                          youmeiDeleted
                                          Marshall James

                                          He has ethics and standards and from what I have seen of him he has always been very thoughtful and genuine.

                                          its complete bull@!$%#....but I am sure he will rebound....oh and driftwood is right by the way.

                                          peace.

                                          • 8 votes
                                          Reply#9 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:18 AM EDT
                                          Digital-904078

                                          james are you actually arguing that regulations should be put in place so that businesses cannot fire for these actions? you know there's a lot of unions that feel the same way

                                          • 3 votes
                                          #9.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:38 PM EDT
                                          Marshall James

                                          not at all....its still bull@!$%# but hate I expect from the left so no suprise...and like I said he will rebound. business should be able to discriminate and fire for this kind of thing....and it will always open doors to those that are fired.

                                          peace.

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #9.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:40 PM EDT
                                          SCTexan

                                          I think he could get his own show on FOX.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #9.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:41 PM EDT
                                          TL-770512

                                          he has always been very thoughtful and genuine

                                          That may be true... but it is outside the scope of his position with NPR as a News Analyst to give opinions, conjecture, etc. Had he called in to Bill O'Reilly and not used his name and media affiliation, anything he said would have been without repercussions. He did not, he was introduced and identified throughout the program as "Juan Williams, NPR News Analyst," therefore his stated opinions were in direct violation of his contract.

                                          End of story... move it along, folks, there is nothing to see here.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          #9.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
                                          AZPADDY

                                          TL

                                          "there is nothing to see here."

                                          If you just look hard enough, there is plenty to see. It may not actually be there, or exist, but anything can be seen if you want to see it badly enough.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #9.5 - Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:15 AM EDT
                                          TL-770512

                                          AZ: <sigh> I know what you mean. Some folks are brimming with the ability to see whatever they want and try to convince others (often successfully.... "baaaaa!" comes to mind) that they see it, too.

                                            #9.6 - Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:40 PM EDT
                                            Reply
                                            tesla013

                                            Damn the PC Police got Juan? That sucks I have always considered him a voice of reason. Like the John Stossel of NPR. Just goes to show that the first amendment only applies in the vacuum of space. I guess I can understand why these public figures have these whack outs always having to watch every word that you say for fear of ending your career.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            Reply#10 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:31 AM EDT
                                            Marshall James

                                            and because of that the left's time is numbered....they are like nazis wanting to control thought and not allowing any disobedience from their views and indoctrination.

                                            the left day are numbered.

                                            • 9 votes
                                            #10.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:32 AM EDT
                                            tesla013

                                            I know and I think Juan knew it to. Hence the move to Fox.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #10.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:40 AM EDT
                                            FredC

                                            Fox will take him with open arms. He is a liberal in name only! He is very comfortable when he appears on FOX!

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #10.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:25 PM EDT
                                            Kevin Burkholder

                                            Just goes to show that the first amendment only applies...

                                            To the government.

                                            Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #10.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:29 PM EDT
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                                            angelaisafan

                                            But, they have no problem running anti-Christian specials and bashing Catholics all week during Easter. What a bunch of loons. Very destructive people! NPR archives are available for public consumption.

                                            NPR program hosts and reporters (they) have names. Document your claim. Who and when?

                                            • 9 votes
                                            Reply#11 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:41 AM EDT
                                            Phuggy

                                            Document your claim. Who and when?

                                            Typical lib. Always wanting something from those that disagree with them without having to prove their statements

                                            No, I would not listen to NPR under any circumstances! Nor do I care to watch Fox.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #11.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:46 PM EDT
                                            thelopes

                                            Always wanting something from those that disagree with them without having to prove their statements

                                            This is amusing... apparently their statement being "Why don't you prove your statement?" needs some kind of proof to it?

                                            • 6 votes
                                            #11.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:13 PM EDT
                                            logdump

                                            Typical lib. Always wanting something from those that disagree with them without having to prove their statements

                                            nonsense you just described a republican

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #11.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:35 PM EDT
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                                            LeftInTexas

                                            That is at least the second step towards journalistic integrity, boy we have an entire industry to go!

                                            • 5 votes
                                            Reply#12 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:12 PM EDT
                                            youmeiDeleted
                                            greg-709692

                                            Now we know how extreme Liberals and Progressives have become.

                                            I liked Juan Williams!

                                            He did use "his" common sense when he spoke and not Liberal Talking points.

                                            Gee, getting fired for having normal thoughts.

                                            Better not Say your normal thoughts Liberal World. It'll get you fired!

                                            • 12 votes
                                            Reply#14 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:18 PM EDT
                                            bonos_rama

                                            Remember Helen Thomas?

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #14.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:34 PM EDT
                                            greg-709692

                                            Yep.

                                            The "Israelis go home" Queen!

                                            She was a flat out racist!

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #14.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:40 PM EDT
                                            Beaver CleaverDeleted
                                            bonos_rama

                                            Ah, she was a "racist". Interesting. So you are a political correctness fan, greg? which means you think Juan Williams SHOULD have been fired, for being "racist" (okay, I realize Judaism and Islam are not races, but that's beside the point).

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #14.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:33 PM EDT
                                            Marshall James

                                            for one williams was pointing out his faults not that of the muslims. muslims did commit the act of 9/11 be it extremists or not....muslims did it...and he admitted to a fault of himself that he felt nervous....

                                            doesnt sound like he was being a hatemonger to me....and you dems should be embracing him as he is a good man and a credit to the liberal cause.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #14.5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:36 PM EDT
                                            greg-709692

                                            @ James:

                                            for one williams was pointing out his faults not that of the muslims

                                            bonos has a comprehension problem!

                                            The only reason the Liberals love this, is because Juan was on Fox!

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #14.6 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:54 PM EDT
                                            Marshall James

                                            I honestly sometimes wonder the comprehension skills of liberals. he was admitting to his fault..not theirs.

                                            its just amazing the mentality behind his firing.

                                            unbelievable.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #14.7 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:58 PM EDT
                                            Beverly in ATL, GA

                                            thank you james!!!!! juan also went on to say that we have to be careful not to have that irrational fear of all muslims and not paint them all with the same brush as terrorists.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #14.8 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:59 PM EDT
                                            800 lb. gorilla

                                            greg

                                            The only reason the Liberals love this, is because Juan was on Fox!

                                            for some that may be the case, but for me, while i do not consider myself a liberal, i liked juan williams depsite the fact that he was on fox. i know that fox will keep him, but i do feel sorry for him a bit. he messed up and the pc crowd pounced on him. that is the way it is now. a journalist can not denigrate a whole race or religion without suffering possible consequences. just ask rick sanchez.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #14.9 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
                                            Marshall James

                                            how did he mess up 800lb?? by admitting he was at fault for his own thoughts??? for not condemning a religion???

                                            he never once condemned muslims...not once ever.

                                            tell me how he screwed up

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #14.10 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:02 PM EDT
                                            greg-709692

                                            just ask rick sanchez

                                            Your not really comparing Rick Sanchez with Juan Williams are you?

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #14.11 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:21 PM EDT
                                            vol fan in chatt, tn

                                            LOL!!

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #14.12 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:16 PM EDT
                                            lisaed

                                            Greg--I like Juan also---and the reason NPR was just waiting to pounce on him and can him is precisely because people like you and me like him. Nothing like this happens in a vacuum. Juan will be just fine without NPR.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #14.13 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT
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                                            Pint3369

                                            newsflash Juan,.. take off that suit and tie put on some jeans and a T-Shirt, and I guarentee "some" people with hold their purses tighter when you walk close to them. Or walk the other way as you approach them..

                                            • 12 votes
                                            Reply#15 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:19 PM EDT
                                            bonos_rama

                                            Very good point. Had O'Reilly said that he gets nervous having to walk by black people on a street, Juan Williams would probably have had a fit.

                                            Frankly, we either ALL get to speak out mind or none of us do. Consistency is key.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #15.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:35 PM EDT
                                            Phuggy

                                            When I speak MY mind, I am called "racist, thug", hater and so on down the line. I am not racist, my neighbors will prove that, and I'm far from being a thug. My thoughts do not agree with the liberal, feel good side of the pendulum and it gives them foaming at the mouth fits. Now, I will blast them out of the water if I catch a handful of from them. PC be damned, I've had a bait of it, and will tolerate it no more.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #15.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:51 PM EDT
                                            Beaver CleaverDeleted
                                            bonos_rama

                                            I don't object to his opinion. But I personally wouldn't be calling for his firing if he'd said that about Christians or Jews, either -- I'm consistent in my beliefs. On the other hand, I do see that a company or corporation does have the right to fire someone for their speech. I just wouldn't be the one demanding it. I never do, and I never will. I might call someone an ass for their opinion, or at least disagree with them, but I don't personally believe any statement against a religion should ever result in a firing.

                                            Unfortunately for them, both the hispanic guy that got fired a couple of weeks ago and this guy did lose their jobs b/c it's the corporation's right to do so.

                                            • 5 votes
                                            #15.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:36 PM EDT
                                            logdump

                                            It all depends on whats in his contract. If he signed it and violated it with his statement he deserves to be fired. He just had a Faux moment on NPR ooops.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #15.5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:39 PM EDT
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                                            youmeiDeleted
                                            Bill Pitcher

                                            I get nervous for the civil rights movement, when I see a black man on BillO's show and he is not arguing with that racist swine.

                                            • 6 votes
                                            Reply#17 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:22 PM EDT
                                            greg-709692

                                            Juans a racist?

                                            Are you kidding us!

                                            What a D----- !

                                            • 6 votes
                                            #17.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:25 PM EDT
                                            Bdobb

                                            Pill Bitcher?

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #17.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:35 PM EDT
                                            greg-709692

                                            Bill Something!

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #17.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:46 PM EDT
                                            Ggap

                                            How many white folks get nervous when they see him get on a plane, walk into a bank, drive into their neighborhood? Jaun is one who really can't see the forest for the trees.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #17.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:48 PM EDT
                                            greg-709692

                                            How many white folks get nervous when they see him get on a plane, walk into a bank, drive into their neighborhood?

                                            NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                            I'd shake his hand!

                                            The "Dingle Balls" are coming out of the woodwork on this one.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #17.5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:56 PM EDT
                                            Bill Pitcher

                                            Juans a racist?

                                            He may or may not be, and from this comment he is at least a xenophobe ... I was referring to BillO as the racist swine...

                                            ... as though you didn't know. HA!

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #17.6 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:27 PM EDT
                                            bonos_rama

                                            Greg, let Juan Williams run for president and see how many people clutch their purses and call him a commie. (And ask for his birth certificate).

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #17.7 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:38 PM EDT
                                            greg-709692

                                            You both don't like him because he's on Fox, period!

                                            It has nothing to do with "Muslim".

                                            God forbid Juan may agree with someone on Fox!

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #17.8 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:57 PM EDT
                                            vol fan in chatt, tn

                                            Juan can't ever run for President...Obama has ruined it for him!

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #17.9 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:18 PM EDT
                                            Plantsmantx

                                            Juan can't ever run for President...Obama has ruined it for him!

                                            Mmm, interesting. He's ruined it for Juan Williams? How so?

                                              #17.10 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:37 PM EDT
                                              logdump

                                              All this is is the Neocons trying to stir up anti islam sentiment so they can fool the people into attacking Iran. Book it.

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #17.11 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:42 PM EDT
                                              Reply
                                              Plantsmantx

                                              I get nervous for the civil rights movement, when I see a black man on BillO's show and he is not arguing with that racist swine.

                                              No need to get nervous. It's not as if people like him haven't always been around.

                                              • 4 votes
                                              #18 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:30 PM EDT
                                              Marshall James

                                              what do you mean people like him??? you are always delving into race....your tunnel vision on the subject has blinded you.

                                              • 6 votes
                                              #18.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:33 PM EDT
                                              bonos_rama

                                              This whole article is about bigotry, james; if not exactly race, culture/religion.

                                              • 10 votes
                                              #18.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:36 PM EDT
                                              Marshall James

                                              bonos

                                              he had to reference that he is a black man that is in agreement with oreilly....who by the way defends obama waaayyyyyyyy to much for my taste....its amazing...you should really watch his show sometime...too balanced for my taste as I see obama and bush as atrocities and horrible for this country....oreilly is just an idiot....but a racist he is not..not from what I have seen.

                                              so they did bring up race bonos.

                                              black man.

                                              • 4 votes
                                              #18.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:43 PM EDT
                                              Beverly in ATL, GA

                                              he was debating orielly, not agreeing with him. juan williams is just another victim of the soundbite taken out of context.

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #18.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:45 PM EDT
                                              Marshall James

                                              again bonos has no leg to stand on.

                                              • 6 votes
                                              #18.5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:48 PM EDT
                                              bonos_rama

                                              James, you said that the poster above was delving into race unjustly. I pointed out that this whole thing is about race, and you even agreed by affirming that Juan Williams brought up his race. How does that make ME have no leg to stand on? It sounds like you are hopping from foot to foot!

                                              • 7 votes
                                              #18.6 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:52 PM EDT
                                              Plantsmantx

                                              he had to reference that he is a black man that is in agreement with oreilly

                                              Well, I was actually responding to someone else who referenced his race, but that's beside the point. Even if I wasn't responding to someone else, I get to make the point I made. If it bothers you, do you know what you could have done to try to assure that it delve further into race? Yep, you got it:). I could go into why my comment upsets you so much, but the fact that you felt the need to (try to) squelch it says more than I want to take the time to type.

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #18.7 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:09 PM EDT
                                              Beaver CleaverDeleted
                                              Plantsmantx

                                              to try to assure that it delve further into race?

                                              That it didn't delve further into race, that is.

                                              I thought Islam was a religion. When did it get to be a race?

                                              Good question.

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #18.9 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:18 PM EDT
                                              bonos_rama

                                              It's not a race, but the word "racism", through usage, has come to mean more than just religion. It's become a kind of catch-all for any kind of bigotry.

                                              Either way, though, had Williams said that he fears walking by government building out of fear of a white Christian-raised man blowing it up, he would probably have been fired, too, and many of those defending him now would be calling him all kinds of epithets.

                                              Political correctness is only bad if it's not your group being targeted.

                                              • 4 votes
                                              #18.10 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:39 PM EDT
                                              Marshall James

                                              bonos you are right this is about bigotry...bigotry against freedom of speech.

                                              all he did was admit to a shortcoming of himself...he never once faulted the muslims on the plane...he was just pointing out what was wrong with himself.

                                              and for that he is fired.

                                              seems to me he is in touch with his shortcomings and is working on it. the left should embrace this man as he is a voice of sanity.

                                              amazing.

                                              • 6 votes
                                              #18.11 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
                                              vol fan in chatt, tn

                                              part of the Alinsky rules, James...the government is full of them!

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #18.12 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:19 PM EDT
                                              Marshall James

                                              alinsky rules???

                                              you mean complete stupidity and ignorance.

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #18.13 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:29 PM EDT
                                              vol fan in chatt, tn

                                              sorry, james, your post was correct, I was merely indicating that this is how the left operates...in response to bonos post:

                                              Political correctness is only bad if it's not your group being targeted.

                                              I don't think they are that stupid, it's just a planned pattern with them..

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #18.14 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:32 PM EDT
                                              Aunk (The Cultural Health Guy)

                                              Hetep and Respect james, re:18.3

                                              so they did bring up race bonos.

                                              black man.

                                              Cultural Literacy Minute: There is one race the human race and many ethnic groups.

                                              As near as I can tell James, you are the first one in this thread to actually use the long discredited term "race".

                                              • 3 votes
                                              #18.15 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:24 PM EDT
                                              Marshall James

                                              dude you do not know my stance on anything so stop reaching....I have long argued with him in regards to race and how he always brings it up....of course he had to bring up a quote that included black man...and blasted on any "black man" who appeared on oreilly's show.

                                              that is my issue.

                                              and for the record I think this.

                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnPnAJeVuvw

                                              go bark up another tree.

                                                #18.16 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:37 AM EDT
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                                                Fifth Horseman

                                                I wonder if people will now want to fly on the same plane as Ellen Weiss since she has made herself a target. She needs to understand that she is also a target for the left of the center in the Islamic religion. Her name alone is a clue of her religion unless she is now wearing a bag over her head to toe and bows 5 times a day toward Mecca.

                                                  Reply#19 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:31 PM EDT
                                                  Beverly in ATL, GA

                                                  if NPR had've taken the time to listen to juan in context, they would've seen that he was telling oreilly that at some point we have to get past those nervous feelings because there are only a minority of muslims who are radical terrorists and we cant paint all muslims with a wide brush.

                                                  the full context can be found here on morning joe

                                                  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/39778288#39775488

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  Reply#20 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:32 PM EDT
                                                  Will_4_Freedom

                                                  Ridiculous. Juan had an opinon that wasn't spoon to him ... and NPR want to make an example of him.

                                                  NPR was looking for something to bring him down. After all, how could any self respecting liberal go on a FOX show?

                                                  If Juan would have said 'I get nervous sending my son to Catholic School' would he be fired? No... There's a few bad priests... but if Juan wants to take precautions because you don't know WHICH are the bad ones... he's wise to do it.

                                                  Likewise, there are a few bad Muslims. If Juan feels nervous because he doesn't know WHICH are the bad ones... he'll get fired.

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  Reply#21 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:37 PM EDT
                                                  bonos_rama

                                                  Do you believe he should or should not be able to say what he feels about Catholics, Will? I'm not sure, because it sounds like you wouldn't like him insulting Catholics while you are okay with him insulting Muslims.

                                                  If he doesn't know which Catholics are the ones about to molest his kids, is that fair to say?

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #21.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:53 PM EDT
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                                                  blindsided-1194485

                                                  Open mouth wide, then insert foot. If anybody knows better, it should be Mr.Williams. As many negative perceptions and stereotypes African Americans are STILL dealing with, he makes a culturally biased statement like that. But then, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. He's become a very comfortable fixture on Fox. I guess ignorance is contagious. He's totally lost what little credibility he had. I put him in the same category as Michael Steele and Clarence Thomas. Good move NPR. But don't feel sorry for him, Fox will probably give him a lucrative offer to be their token "black" commentator.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  Reply#22 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:39 PM EDT
                                                  Keith-387863

                                                  I sure hope they give him a job.NPR is nothing but a joke and always has been.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #22.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:39 PM EDT
                                                  rhondamom-796122

                                                  What a stupid, racist remark! He's not "black" because he doesn't agree with your ideals? Steele isn't black because he doesn't think like you do? WTF is wrong with you?

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #22.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:50 PM EDT
                                                  Concerned Citizen-1303521

                                                  He's not "black"

                                                  where did you read that?

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #22.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:57 PM EDT
                                                  logdump

                                                  Juan Williams is a Panamanian by birth ! That makes him either a Latino or Hispanic. I forget how that works. Born in Colon Panama emigrated to the US with his family when he was 4.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #22.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:49 PM EDT
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                                                  Buzz of the Orient

                                                  "But when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

                                                  What a totally ridiculous statement. If in fact a terrorist intending to blow up or hijack a plane is on board, Muslim garb is the last thing he/she would be wearing. They would surely want to blend in with the other passengers. As well, if persons are wearing Muslim garb they were probably forced to go through a pretty thorough security check before boarding.

                                                  • 10 votes
                                                  Reply#23 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:39 PM EDT
                                                  bonos_rama

                                                  Now that's an excellent point. After all, the 9/11 terrorists, from what we were told, were wearing western dress.

                                                  • 8 votes
                                                  #23.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:54 PM EDT
                                                  Perrie

                                                  Which was why my husband was almost held in the jetway for seeming too Muslim. It was only after the event, that I found out about Extraordinary rendition. I have to say, that after that, I wasn't happy about flying at all.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #23.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:48 PM EDT
                                                  Buzz of the Orient

                                                  Hi Perrie, I've not seen you around lately.

                                                  bonos_rama, this could be the first time you've ever agreed with me. By the way, on my column I posted my brisket recipe. Isabella_37 and another person both tried it and raved that it was delicious and melted in their mouths. You should try it cause I'm sure it's better than shoe leather. :-)

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #23.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:09 PM EDT
                                                  logdump

                                                  Actually it is pretty stupid as if a terrorist is going to dress up in muslim garb and board a plane in todays day and age.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #23.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:50 PM EDT
                                                  coolslow

                                                  Why? It would be a smart play. They can't be profiled or singled out because of what they are wearing.

                                                    #23.5 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:09 AM EDT
                                                    Reply
                                                    Bighorn

                                                    Juan Williams was just following the Home Land Security specific guide lines of being aware of those around you that might be a potential dangerous individual.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    Reply#24 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:40 PM EDT
                                                    DAN MAHER portland oregon

                                                    I also get nervous when I see that garb in an airport. If Al Quaidas supporters can blend into America and Europe my thoughts get scrambled when seeing the garb they espouse. It is a shame that NPR is so unprotective of its guests and speakers, as control of speech is not in the essence of freedom.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    Reply#25 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:42 PM EDT
                                                    thelopes

                                                    as control of speech is not in the essence of freedom.

                                                    Actually, I'd say control of your business, and how it is represented by your employees, is a standard of the freedom to run your business as you see fit.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #25.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:16 PM EDT
                                                    Only One Voice

                                                    thelopes - It is not NPR's business. It is a recipent of government funds so it is the people's business. Let them support themselves and I will not longer care if they go around targeting Blacks that are not under their thumb.

                                                    I wonder if the Justice Department would go after a New Black Panther for NPR intimidation.

                                                      #25.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:22 PM EDT
                                                      Reply
                                                      Bif Biffleston

                                                      Before Williams was fired, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said such commentary from a journalist about other racial, ethnic or religious minority groups would not be tolerated.

                                                      I must have missed their condemnation of Al Jazera. I'm sure it was very similar, right?

                                                      • 5 votes
                                                      Reply#26 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:44 PM EDT
                                                      thelopes

                                                      I must have missed their condemnation of Al Jazera. I'm sure it was very similar, right?

                                                      Being an American civil/legal advocacy group, I don't know what they'd need to say about another country's media.

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      #26.1 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:19 PM EDT
                                                      Bif Biffleston

                                                      They are the Council on American-Muslim relations. Al Jazera has a English language station that broadcasts in the US. I would think that would qualify as well as NPR, don't you?

                                                        #26.2 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:33 PM EDT
                                                        bonos_rama

                                                        So someone can't criticize something until and unless they've criticized everything else? Wow, someone tell Rush Limbaugh he can't criticize the "librul media" until he's criticized Fox". Good to know, Bif!

                                                        • 3 votes
                                                        #26.3 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:43 PM EDT
                                                        thelopes

                                                        They are the Council on American-Muslim relations. Al Jazera has a English language station that broadcasts in the US. I would think that would qualify as well as NPR, don't you?

                                                        I was unaware of Al Jazera English - but I do wonder, do you have a specific citation from one of their correspondents or journalists you believe the Council should be criticizing?

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        #26.4 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:51 PM EDT
                                                        Bif Biffleston

                                                        Actually I have no desire to criticize AL Jazera. I believe in free speech and they are entitled to their opinions. My sarcasm was directed at CAIR and the Muslim world's failure to hold itself to the same standard it DEMANDS from everyone else.

                                                        • 2 votes
                                                        #26.5 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:10 PM EDT
                                                        thelopes

                                                        My sarcasm was directed at CAIR and the Muslim world's failure to hold itself to the same standard it DEMANDS from everyone else.

                                                        ... which is why I pointed out that the CAIR isn't really a part of the Muslim World - being an America-based civil advocacy group.

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        #26.6 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:28 PM EDT
                                                        Bif Biffleston

                                                        CAIR is a PR firm for Islam in America. The are pushing the Islamic agenda and are responsible for promoting the political correct position that it is 'bigoted' to criticism Islam. They are also said to be funded and staffed by many radical Muslims. They have refused to acknowledge Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist organizations. They are Muslim to the core.

                                                        http://www.meforum.org/916/cair-islamists-fooling-the-establishment

                                                          #26.7 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:51 PM EDT
                                                          james ca.

                                                          Praise CAIR! You act like it is a sin to do everything you can to save an entire peoples/religion from being wrongfully persecuted!?! Can I take it you are against the ACLU because they are devoted to insuring minority groups are not wrongfully persecuted? Is it OK to protect anyone from wrongfully being persecuted? Your site in MSG.#26.7 dedicated to "The Middle East Forum promotes American interests in the Middle East" is hardly the place to go to for info on CAIR. Cair is not hidding anything. CAIR stands for: Council on Islamic-American Relations. Not ISLAMIST relations. Islamist are terrorsit. They are not about Islamist relations. They are about Islamic relations. Learn the difference already.

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          #26.8 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:00 PM EDT
                                                          Bif Biffleston

                                                          CAIR is promoting a Islamic agenda that is not tolerant of other religions or the basis for the ideals we hold sacred in this country. I do not support any overthrow of our way of life or government. Both of which are threatened by Islam and CAIR.

                                                          Not ISLAMIST relations. Islamist are terrorsit.

                                                          And so are Hamas and Hezbollah , both organizations supported by CAIR.

                                                            #26.9 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:56 AM EDT
                                                            Bif Biffleston

                                                            Praise CAIR! You act like it is a sin to do everything you can to save an entire peoples/religion from being wrongfully persecuted!?!

                                                            That's silly james. CAIR does not speak out in support the Jewish faith. /sarcasm

                                                            But seriously, "wrongfully persecuted"? What you (and CAIR) call persecution, many Americans call asking tough questions of Islam and getting no answers but cries of 'bigot' and 'Islamaphobe'.

                                                            I have addressed your "peaceful' Islam claims in another thread [ #42.17 ], yet you chose to ignore it. I ask you,

                                                            "What is so peaceful about these commands from Allah in the Qur'an" and why shouldn't we be concerned? #42.17

                                                              #26.10 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:16 PM EDT
                                                              thelopes

                                                              CAIR is promoting a Islamic agenda that is not tolerant of other religions

                                                              Do you have an example of this?

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                                                              #26.11 - Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:10 PM EDT
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                                                              ABNJonathan

                                                              this political corectness is out of hand what ever happened to speaking ones mind. Now we have to be sensitive to others because it might hurt their feelings, I remember when I was young I was told by my fourth grade teacher that I would never amount to anything in fourth grade and when I told my parents about it they both agreed they said that if I didnt change my way I would not amount to anything, and that just made me prove them wrong, now a days if someone tells someone the truth we have to put that person in sesitivity training why because he spoke out and it offended somone, when was the last time anyone of us was in another country and were disrespectted just because we were American who the hexk do we go and cry to over seas no one because we would be told this is not America. But here people that feel ofended have the right to start a coalition and get that person in trouble well what about the person making the comments does that person not have the right to say whats on their mind to. This country is heading in the wrong direction and if we dont change things now it will be a very scary place where everyone will be afraid to speak up when something is wrong because they are afraid of the backlash of speaking their thoughts or opinions I teach my kid to say what is on his mind right or wrong and if it is wrong then I tell him why its wrong I dont tell him not to say it again I tell him the reasons why its wrong and why it would be seen as wrong. Its not that Muslims are terrorist is just that the actions of the few speak for the many and when the Many do nothing to stop those few then we assume that the many agree with the few

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                                                              Reply#27 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:45 PM EDT
                                                              secaa23

                                                              This is ugly. One of the biggest mistakes that NPR can make. Of all people, Juan Williams is not a bigot nor a racist. This shows how ideological and hostile and biased NPR has become to "free speech" .... they disagree with.

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                                                              Reply#28 - Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:50 PM EDT
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