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Holidays about survival as jobless benefits end

Wed Dec 1, 2010 12:01 AM EST
us-news, business, us, benefits, jobless, jobless-benefits, 99ers, the-99ers, shawn-slonsky
Tom Breen, Associated Press
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<p>Wayne Pittman, 46, sits in his Lawrenceville, Ga., home looking over unemployment papers as his extended benefits are set to expire unless Congress passes a vote to extend them Tuesday, Nov. 30, 2010. (AP Photo/David Goldman)</p>

Wayne Pittman, 46, sits in his Lawrenceville, Ga., home looking over unemployment papers as his extended benefits are set to expire unless Congress passes a vote to extend them Tuesday, Nov. 30, 2010. (AP Photo/David Goldman)

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— Shawn Slonsky's children know by now not to give him Christmas lists filled with the latest gizmos. The 44-year-old union electrician is one of nearly 2 million Americans whose extended unemployment benefits will run out this month, making the holiday season less about celebration than survival.

"We'll put up decorations, but we just don't have the money for a Christmas tree," Slonsky said.

Benefits that had been extended up to 99 weeks started running out Wednesday. Unless Congress approves a longer extension, the Labor Department estimates about 2 million people will be cut off by Christmas.

Support groups for the so-called 99ers have sprung up online, offering chances to vent along with tips on resumes and job interviews. Advocacy groups such as the National Employment Law Project have turned their plight into a rallying cry for Congress to extend jobless benefits.

Things used to be different for Slonsky, who lives in Massillon, Ohio. Before work dried up, he earned about $100,000 a year. He and his wife lived in a three-bedroom house where deer meandered through the backyard.

Then they lost their jobs. Their house went into foreclosure and they had to move in with his 73-year-old father. Now, Slonsky is dreading the holidays as his 99 weeks run out.

"It's hard to be in a jovial mood all the time when you've got this storm cloud hanging over your head," he said.

The average weekly unemployment benefit in the U.S. is $302.90, though it varies widely depending on how states calculate the payment. Because of supplemental state programs and other factors, it's hard to know for sure who will lose their benefits at any given time.

Congressional opponents of extending the benefits beyond this month say fiscal responsibility should come first. Republicans in the House and Senate, along with a handful of conservative Democrats, say they're open to extending benefits, but not if it means adding to the $13.8 trillion national debt.

Republicans maintain they are willing to instead use unspent money from Obama stimulus programs to foot the bill: a $12.5 billion tab for three months. Democrats argue that the extended benefits should be paid for with deficit spending because it injects money into the economy.

The GOP didn't pay any political price for stalling efforts earlier this year to extend jobless benefits that provide critical help to the unemployed — including a seven-week stretch over the summer when jobless benefits were a piece of a failed Democratic tax and jobs bill. But bad publicity because the benefits end over the holidays has long been forecast.

Democrats hope that a final deal on extending Bush-era income tax cuts to the wealthy and middle class will include an agreement from Republicans to another extension of deficit-financed emergency unemployment benefits.

U.S. Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., the No. 3 Republican in the House, said extended benefits must be paid for now, rather than later, if they're going to win support from fiscal conservatives.

"The fact that we have to keep extending unemployment benefits shows that the economic policies of this administration have failed," said Pence spokeswoman Courtney Kolb.

Labor Secretary Hilda Solis told The Associated Press on Wednesday that declining to extend the benefits would be a mistake for Congress.

"This is a bad way to start off the new, incoming season of new politicians that said that they wanted to make government work for people in a better way," she said.

Even if Congress does lengthen benefits, cash assistance is at best a stopgap measure, said Carol Hardison, executive director of Crisis Assistance Ministry in Charlotte, N.C., which has seen 20,000 new clients since the Great Recession started in December 2007.

"We're going to have to have a new conversation with the people who are still suffering, about the potentially drastic changes they're going to have to make to stay out of the homeless shelter," she said.

Forget Christmas presents. What the 99ers want most of all is what remains elusive in the worst economy in generations: a job.

"I am not searching for a job, I am begging for one," said Felicia Robbins, 30, as she prepared to move out of a homeless shelter in Pensacola, Fla., where she and her five children have been living. She is using the last of her cash, about $500, to move into a small, unfurnished rental home.

Robbins lost her job as a juvenile justice worker in 2009 and her last $235 unemployment check will arrive Dec. 13. Her 10-year-old car isn't running, and she walks each day to the local unemployment office to look for work.

Jeanne Reinman, 61, of Greenville, S.C., still has her house, but even that comes with a downside.

After losing her computer design job a year and a half ago, Reinman scraped by with her savings and a weekly $351 unemployment check. When her nest egg vanished in July, she started using her unemployment to pay off her mortgage and stopped paying her credit card bills. She recently informed a creditor she couldn't make payments on a loan because her benefits were ending.

"I'm more concerned about trying to hang onto my house than paying you," she told the creditor.

Ninety-nine weeks may seem like a long time to find a job. But even as the economy grows, jobs that vanished in the Great Recession have not returned. The private sector added about 159,000 jobs in October — half as many as needed to reduce the unemployment rate of 9.6 percent, which the Federal Reserve expects will hover around 9 percent for all of next year.

For people like JoAnn Sampson, decisions made by Congress can seem very distant. The former cart driver at U.S. Airways in Charlotte and her husband are both facing the end of unemployment benefits, and she can't get so much as an entry-level job.

"When you try to apply for retail or fast food, they say 'You're overqualified,' they say 'We don't pay that much money,' they say, 'You don't want this job,'" she said.

Sampson counts her blessings: At least her two children, a teenager and a college student, are too old to expect much from Christmas this year.

Wayne Pittman has been telling his family not expect much for Christmas either.

The 46-year-old carpenter, along with his wife and 9-year-old son, have stopped going to movies and restaurants and buying new clothes. With his $297 weekly checks gone, holiday gifts are definitely out.

"It's not in our budget," Pittman said. "I have a little boy, and that's kind of hard to explain to him. To try to let him know, certain things he's not going to be getting."

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This report includes contributions from Associated Press writers Meg Kinnard, in Columbia, S.C.; Ray Henry, in Atlanta; Melissa Nelson, in Pensacola, Fla.; Lucas L. Johnson II in Nashville, Tenn.; Mark Hamrick in Washington; and Jeannie Nuss in Columbus, Ohio.

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DUDE-875416

I saw a news report (not sure on which channel) not too long ago reporting on unemployment. They reported that those that are on unemployment are finding they get paid more from our government then the jobs being offered. So, they turn down job offerings. One such unemployed individual stated just that during the news program.

Then I see a report showing historical unemployment numbers after unemployment runs out. Unemployment drops! Makes you wonder why we have unemployment at all.

Frankly, I can care less about unemployment insurance. Being self-employed, I am not eligible for it even though I pay double into it. Every one of my employees are eligible for unemployment, just not me. This is true for ALL self-employed, small businesses. 100% of the small business owners in America are NOT eligible for unemployment even though they account for 70% of the workforce today.

People claim there are not enough jobs in the market. But yet Silvia stated in the article:

"I apply for at least two jobs a day," said Silvia Lewis, of Nashville, Tenn., who's also drained her 401(k) and most of her other savings. "The constant thing that I hear, and a lot of my friends are in the same boat, is that you're overqualified."

If you can find two jobs EVERY DAY to apply for in Nashville, then I'm led to believe there are quite a few jobs in that area. Nashville must be doing pretty good.

The article went on to say:

Republicans in the House and Senate, along with a handful of conservative Democrats, say they're open to extending benefits, but not if it means adding to the $13.8 trillion national debt.

I agree with them. Let's pay for this extension instead of passing the debt onto our kids. Or simply don't extend it. I would be good with that too.

    Reply#1 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 8:31 AM EST
    RITENOW1

    He has his Xmas village set up in the background. Believe me brother, I'm unemployed, denied benefits, it ain't easy. You have huge decisions to make. Being you and the millions of others that lose their benefits now, will make our situation even worse. Just in time for the holidays. Good luck to you in the coming year.

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    Reply#2 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 8:37 AM EST
    DUDE-875416

    I truly do feel for those that are unemployed especially around the Holidays. I wish all of you a healthy and prosperous new year!

    I have my doubts regarding the economy for 2011, but, I still have hope!

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    #2.1 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 8:44 AM EST
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    squeek-732862

    The problem is not loss of Jobless benifits, the problem is loss of Jobs. Taxing the rich will not help because they have the option to move to a more tax freindly country. They can easily start considering themselves global citizens rather than Americans. Most of their investments are probably not in this country anymore. The same countries who gripe about us becomming protectionist have a bunch of laws to protect themselves and claim to be still below us economically when their wealth has already surpassed that of the US. And they are building. We have free trade alright but there is no fair trade. We can not help the world if we cant even help ourselves. It looks hypocrititical to do so.

      Reply#3 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 9:40 AM EST
      Deb-2738864

      If congress wont extend benefits then President Obama needs to pass a bill where all debts in every state ( medical; credit cards etc ) are written off permanently ( at least one time ) with no way that the creditors & collection agencies can ever come back and try to collect on those debts in the future ( these are permanently written off ) so at least the unemployed person has no medical or credit card debts to worry about and that gives them a fresh start. Especially when a person cannot come up with the bankruptcy filing fee and cost of a lawyer. If a person chooses to use a credit card after that debt has been forgiven then they will be responsible for those debts.If a house loan or car loan cannot be included ( which is understandable )the banks need to accept what the unemployed person can pay and they must prove their job loss etc. Once they become employed again give them time to get back on their feet and renegotiate a new loan with lower interest rates that cannot go up and with no ballon payments.

      Jack

        Reply#4 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 11:03 AM EST
        River-239955

        ....We've all got problems.....

        I'm glad to see the unemployment benefits expire. There are jobs available, whether anyone feels like doing them or not. If you can't hang with the changes of time and re-invent yourself, it's not the government's responsibility to ensure you get a free ride indefinitely. I've seen several times that people who specialize in a certain field won't accept employment in another field because it interferes with their potential for the chosen field. That's just tough.

        These people can go flip burgers, scrub toilets, weed flower bed, or start baby-sitting. And if they don't like any of those ideas, they can run for the first office available and get a new line of work there.

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        Reply#5 - Wed Dec 1, 2010 11:16 AM EST
        LTKiwi

        I've applied and given a resume for everything I can find in Denver and the State of Colorado. Everything ranging from an office manager position, to a dish washer at local restaurants.

        The issue is that for every job opening in Denver there are at least 25 applicants for it. Sometimes there are over one hundred applicants.

        It's gotten to the point where office jobs can require an associate or bachelor's degree for a job that pays $11 an hour. I would take them, but I don't have a degree and they also require more experience than I have.

        Restaurants not only look at experience now, but also physical appearance. I can't remember how many times I've been told "we don't hire guys" when I apply to be a bartender or server.

        I've even applied at a freakin' Taco Bell!

        The one thing in common with everywhere I've applied:

        They get so many applications that the only person to get a call from them is the one that gets the job.

        I am getting sick of people that say "just move" or "just go back to school". Look folks, both of those things cost way more money than my wife and I have. Not to mention, both moving and going back to school is not a sure fire way to get a job. I might still be unemployed, but I would just be in unfamiliar surroundings with a ton of student loan bills to pay off. In my mind, that's a huge step backwards.

        I've tried finding a job. I've tried finding a career. I've tried part time, I've tried full time. I've applied for jobs that pay twice what I used to make and jobs that pay less than half. I've applied for minimum wage manual labor jobs. I've tried everything. Problem is, there are thousands of people just like me that are doing the same thing and only a few hundred jobs.

        To those that have more than one job: Do you think you're being selfish? Maybe the person you are berating when you say "I work x many part time jobs to survive!" would love to have just one of the jobs you are currently doing...Just a thought.

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        #5.1 - Thu Dec 2, 2010 3:27 PM EST
        River-239955

        I'm a little bit surprised to see that Denver is having such a hard time. I was under the impression that metros were in better condition. :(

        (Myself, I have one full time job, that takes full and a half time from my life, and it b-a-r-e-l-y lets ends meet. I know all too well what it's like to do without a thing or three.)

        Can't help but wonder what condition your resume is in, after a post such as the one above. You are obviously well-versed and educated enough to know how to spell, have sound sentence structure, and explore all options available. There are tens of thousands who cannot do even that much for themselves. :(

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        #5.2 - Thu Dec 2, 2010 5:48 PM EST
        LTKiwi

        I thank you for the compliments River.

        As far as my resume, it's full of customer service positions. I thrive working in the bar/restaurant scene and have over 18 years of customer service experience.

        But, I don't have a college degree. My family has never been well off and we just couldn't afford to send me to school. I think that's my biggest drawback.

        But, one thing I've learned while looking for a job. I'm just one resume in a stack of many. It's hard to find something to make my resume "pop" and stand out, yet at the same time look professional. It's all in the eye of the beholder, in this case the HR drone reading it.

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        #5.3 - Thu Dec 2, 2010 5:58 PM EST
        River-239955

        Customer service is an amazing field full of job openings....perhaps not centralized in Denver, but I do know they are out there, and they are plentiful.

        What about sales? I'm not a salesperson, myself, but there are some very hot items on the markets right now, and people are getting paid very well to move them.

        Some of these people here work from home, although I don't know all the particulars to it. I do know that timeshares are still a solid market. (gasp....dirty little secret.)

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        #5.4 - Thu Dec 2, 2010 6:01 PM EST
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        buddym

        Unemployment was not meant to be welfare. If you have been on it for 99 weeks it is high time to get off of it. Go to work, do any job available. I have two part-time jobs with no benefits. I cannot get sick but I can put food on the table. I do not have the Internet, a cell phone, do not smoke, drink, or do drugs. Sometimes you just have to have your priorities in order. I can't afford to do anything "fun" that costs money but at least I have food, a warm place to live, and my dignity and I guess that counts for something.

          Reply#6 - Thu Dec 2, 2010 9:58 AM EST
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