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Top intel official in hot water over blunt remarks

Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:09 PM EST
politics, us, libya, intelligence, moammar-gadhafi, director
Eileen Sullivan, Associated Press
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper says all indications are that Moammar Gadhafi has no intention of leaving power.
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<p>James R. Clapper, Jr., Director of National Intelligence, testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington,  Thursday,  March 10, 2011, before the Senate Armed Services committee hearing on current and future worldwide threats to the national security of the United States.  (AP Photo/Ann Heisenfelt)</p>

James R. Clapper, Jr., Director of National Intelligence, testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, March 10, 2011, before the Senate Armed Services committee hearing on current and future worldwide threats to the national security of the United States. (AP Photo/Ann Heisenfelt)

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WASHINGTON — The government's top intelligence official fumbled the Obama administration's message Thursday about embattled Moammar Gadhafi's fate, telling Congress that the Libyan leader will prevail in his fight with rebel forces there. It was the latest in a series of public gaffes for James Clapper, the director of national intelligence.

Hours later, the White House distanced President Barack Obama from Clapper's remarks. Obama does not think Gadhafi will prevail, a senior administration official said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss Obama's position on Clapper's comments. The official reiterated Obama's stand that Gadhafi has lost legitimacy and should leave power.

Speaking to senators, Clapper said the Libyan government's military might was stronger than had been described. Clapper said there was no indication that Gadhafi will step down and offer a speedy resolution to the crisis.

"I just think from a standpoint of attrition, that over time, I mean — this is kind of a stalemate back and forth, but I think over the longer term that the (Gadhafi) regime will prevail," Clapper said.

One senator, Republican Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, quickly urged Clapper to resign.

"Unfortunately, this isn't the first questionable comment from the DNI director," Graham said. "However it should be the final straw."

White House spokesman Jay Carney said Clapper has the full confidence of the president. Obama's national security adviser, Tom Donilon, later said the president was happy with Clapper's performance. Donilon, however, walked back Clapper's comments slightly.

"Things in the Middle East right now, and things in Libya in particular right now, need to be looked at not through a static but through a dynamic ... lens," Donilon told reporters. "And if you look at it that way, beyond a narrow view on just kind of numbers of weapons and things that, you get a very different picture."

Clapper wasn't divulging classified information when he was describing the situation in Libya. The head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Lt. Gen. Ronald L. Burgess Jr., agreed with Clapper's assessment.

Graham acknowledged that some of Clapper's analysis could be accurate, but he said those remarks should be spoken behind closed doors.

John Pike, and analyst with Globalsecurity.org, said Clapper was doing what intelligence officials should do: give the best intelligence available. Sometimes that's politically inconvenient, Pike said.

"I don't need a director of national intelligence to tell me what I want to hear," Pike said. "I know what I want to hear."

Earlier this year, Clapper said the Muslim Brotherhood was "largely secular," which his office later clarified by saying the group in Egypt tries to work through the political system.

In December, Clapper was in the dark during an interview on national television when he was asked about a terror plot that had been disrupted in England and had received wide media attention. The White House defended him then too, saying Clapper had been preoccupied with tensions between North and South Korea and with helping ensure the passage of a nuclear weapons treaty with Russia.

Clapper is not the first director of national intelligence to find himself in hot water.

Clapper's predecessor, Dennis Blair, told Congress that the government's elite interrogation team, its High-Value Interrogation Group, had not been officially deployed to question the 2009 Christmas Day bomber. Blair also told Congress that the suspected bomber continued to provide helpful information to investigators at a time when authorities had hoped to keep his cooperation a secret. Blair was also the first Obama administration official to describe the deadly shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, as an act of homegrown terrorism. The Obama administration was slow to publicly link the murders to radical Islamic extremism.

The Bush administration's director of national intelligence, Mike McConnell, made his share of flubs too.

McConnell once divulged the cancellation of a highly classified, multibillion-dollar satellite program. He wrote an opinion piece that left the impression that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act had not been updated since 1978, when the law has been updated dozens of times since its passage. And he spilled classified details about how the surveillance act works to a newspaper.

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Associated Press writers Matt Apuzzo, Ben Feller and Adam Goldman contributed to this report.

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StoneyT

So this guys mistake was telling the truth and not telling congress and the Obama administration what they want to hear. How horrible.

  • 18 votes
#1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:35 PM EST
Marshall James

its the liberal way. ignore reality.

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:27 PM EST
common sense-457836

I agree. Obama looked so ridiculous standing under that "Mission Accomplished" banner, completely disconnected from reality. oh wait.....

  • 15 votes
#1.2 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:34 PM EST
StoneyT

Speaking of mission accomplished. Im pretty sure Obama said the war in Iraq is over. Said it last year. 22 americans have died since then. Guess he should go over and tell our enemy its over to.

  • 8 votes
#1.3 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:40 PM EST
Rob-LVNevada

Remember, now, that banner was for the Aircraft Carrier in question that happened to be part of that photo shoot. Their mission was complete, they were heading back to the big PX here in the States, they had served their tour and were coming home. Our former President just happened to be be photographed under it, in one of the biggest douche moves in recent history.

  • 7 votes
#1.4 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:48 PM EST
Chirmly

Sorry, the one that asked him to resign was GOP Repub Graham.

I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. Don't ask a question and don't invite people that might say things that you don't want to hear unless you really want objective input.

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:48 PM EST
chitownty

So you know for a fact that those 22 died as a result of combat,because you know they could have been killed by faulty KBR wiring in the barricks.

  • 7 votes
#1.6 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:50 PM EST
StoneyT

17-Feb
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Airman First Class Christoffer P. Johnson, 20, was killed on February 17 while on security patrol at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar. He was assigned to the 423rd Security Forces Squadron, Royal Air Force Alconbury, England while supporting Operation New Dawn.

15-Jan
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Sgt. Michael P. Bartley, 23, of Barnhill, Ill.
Spc. Martin J. Lamar, 43, of Sacramento, Calif. died Jan. 15 in Mosul, Iraq, of wounds suffered when an Iraqi soldier from the unit with which they were training shot them with small arms fire. They were assigned to the 1st Squadron, 9th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas.

Spc. Jose A. Torre, Jr., 21, of Garden Grove, Calif., died Jan.15 in Baghdad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit with a rocket-propelled grenade. He was assigned to the Special Troops Battalion, 2nd Advise and Assist Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, Kan.

2-Jan
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Sgt. Jose M. Cintron Rosado, 38, of Vega Alta, Puerto Rico; and
Spc. Jose A. Delgado Arroyo, 41, of San Juan, Puerto Rico died Jan. 2 in Taji, Iraq, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked their unit with an improvised explosive device. They were assigned to the 1013th Engineer (Sapper) Company of the Puerto Rico Army National Guard, Aguadilla, Puerto Rico.

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Pfc. David D. Finch, 24, of Bath Springs, Tenn., died Dec. 8 in Wasit province, Iraq, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit using small arms fire. He was assigned to the 2nd Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, Fort Hood, Texas.

21-Nov
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Sgt. David J. Luff Jr., 29, of Hamilton, Ohio, died Nov. 21 in Tikrit, Iraq, of wounds suffered when insurgents attacked his unit with small arms fire. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 27th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, Schofield Barracks, Hawaii.

Want me to keep going? Yes there were some non-combat related also. I guess we arent at war anymore. But our enemy is.

  • 6 votes
#1.7 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:57 PM EST
Tacitus13

The government's top intelligence official fumbled the Obama administration's message Thursday about embattled Moammar Gadhafi's fate, telling Congress that the Libyan leader will prevail in his fight with rebel forces there. It was the latest in a series of public gaffes for James Clapper, the director of national intelligence...

...One senator, Republican Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, quickly urged Clapper to resign.

So people are upset that the intel guy told Congress the truth? Wow.

  • 10 votes
#1.8 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:05 PM EST
chitownty

stoneyt: yes please go on and after you're done,list the names of the 3700+ who died after President Bush said the same thing.

  • 10 votes
#1.9 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:19 PM EST
paddymurph

It would have been so much better if he had lied about both our options in Libya and the necessity of intervention, like the previous administration did, causing the needless deaths of thousand of American boys and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's. So much better.

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:32 PM EST
jimi

stoneyt: yes please go on and after you're done,list the names of the 3700+ who died after President Bush said the same thing.

Exactly.

  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:34 PM EST
Dare To Hope

People in Washington don't tell the truth, that should be a dead giveaway that there's more going on behind the scene. Who's to say that this little "slip" of honesty is not a means to manipulate the outcome of this uprising?

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:50 PM EST
flameaway

You know, I haven't even read the article, yet.

My response to the title of this seed is, "Damn! I'm glad we have a blunt top intel official."

And to be blunt in turn, those that are getting him into trouble need to sit the @!$%# down and shut the @!$%# up.

  • 8 votes
#1.13 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:37 PM EST
flameaway

I gotta tell ya, free speech is alive in the USA no matter what else has gone wrong.

I'll tell you what else, I understand a unified political message, but if you penalize a guy like this for comments made to officials who are supposed to be able to manage discretion, there's a bigger problem than what amounts to a difference of opinion.

  • 9 votes
#1.14 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:42 PM EST
Global777

It must be difficult to appear lucid, when you're trying to stay a half step behind your boss...

  • 4 votes
#1.15 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:16 PM EST
Global777

BO has been in charge for over two years and the best defense the left can offer, for his actions or lack thereof, continues to be "Bush did it too!", "Bush did it first!" or simply "Bush did it!"

It has become so transparent that the left doesn't have any defense for the ongoing mistakes, indifference and incompetence of BO.

Memo to the left... BO has been in office for 26 months! Try Accountability on for size and see if it fits, for a change...

  • 5 votes
#1.16 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:24 PM EST
Azzix

Memo to the left... BO has been in office for 26 months! Try Accountability on for size and see if it fits, for a change...

Try it yourself.

Anyway, the vast majority of times I've seen Bush's name brought up -- as in this time -- it was salient to the point. History does not go away just because a President does, nor should be ignore the lessons from the past lest we repeat them in the future.

  • 4 votes
#1.17 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:03 PM EST
oldecrankyman

I guess we arent at war anymore. But our enemy is.

I'd remind you that the only reason we're in that country is because the last president made it so, and the main reason that they're now OUR enemy is because the last administration invaded their country and blew the @!$%# out of their infrastructure to disrupt the oil supply to benefit themselves and their campaign contributors. It's pretty damned cheap to give the current president crap for not fixing the last president's cluster@!$%#s fast enough.

    #1.18 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:31 PM EST
    StoneyT

    Could any of you explain to me when Bush said the war in Iraq is over? Those were Obamas actual words. I guess he knows his liberal supporters like you guys dont really care about actions. All that matters is he keeps on talking, talking, talking.

    • 3 votes
    #1.19 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:32 PM EST
    StoneyT

    What are u lefties gonna do if he bombs libya? Will you call him a war monger. Lets see Bush took 8 years to hit the trillion mark in spending. Obama averages 1 trillion per year. Thats way better. Now Im sure you guys will say but he has had to save our economy. Really? How did that work out? Obama has pretty much spit on all our allies and tries to suck up to and apologize to our enemies. What about gas prices? When it was Bush it was oh hes for the oil companies blah blah. Now that its Obama, well its good because it will make people drive less and downsize their vehicles. Hipocrites....

    • 3 votes
    #1.20 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:38 PM EST
    Global777

    azzix...

    "Anyway, the vast majority of times I've seen Bush's name brought up -- as in this time -- it was salient to the point."

    Perfect! Thank you for illustrating my point!!

    ...

    "History does not go away just because a President does"

    Exactly. Bush is History. BO, whether we like it or not, is the Present and has been for over two years.

    When BO makes a mistake, the left never admits that a mistake has been made (it helps if you're drinking the Messiah flavored Kool-Aid). They ignore the mistake and focus on whether or not a President from the past did the same thing.

    Accountability...

    • 3 votes
    #1.21 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:44 PM EST
    PERRY-386792

    StoneyT

    Speaking of mission accomplished. Im pretty sure Obama said the war in Iraq is over. Said it last year. 22 americans have died since then. Guess he should go over and tell our enemy its over to.

    this is a bit unfair. i don't know how many people are still there but i think it's over 50,000. even if they were all here, i think 22 may have died in various accidents, illness or whatever.

    • 1 vote
    #1.22 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:49 PM EST
    PERRY-386792

    I'd remind you that the only reason we're in that country is because the last president made it so,

    he could not have done it without democrat support. they are all equally to blame, now let's move on

    • 1 vote
    #1.23 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:56 PM EST
    StoneyT

    So perry that is your reason for it being ok that obama lied. Because 22 of those people may have died by now anyway. Wow.

      #1.24 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:56 PM EST
      The Devil-1138528

      He will prevail because Obama is too busy picking his butt to actually aid the rebel forces. So, what is the problem with the man giving an honest (hes a spy) assessment of his view? Should he be lying like the Baby George Bush administration lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Or should he tell the truth?

      • 1 vote
      #1.25 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:02 AM EST
      PERRY-386792

      no. i'm saying i think you had your point made before you even mentioned that in your post

        #1.26 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:05 AM EST
        Briwnys

        #1.19: Could any of you explain to me when Bush said the war in Iraq is over?

        Here you go, StoneyT:

        Broadcast: 16/04/2003
        Bush declares Iraq war over
        US President George Bush says the war is over and a new era in Iraq can begin. Those comments came as delegates met in southern Iraq to begin reshaping the country's political future. In Baghdad, order is slowly returning the streets. And today US special forces captured a Palestinian terrorist who's been wanted for nearly two decades. Abu Abbas, who led the hijacking of the liner 'Achille Lauro' in 1985, is in American hands.

        -- Australian Broadcasting Corporation
        LATELINE
        Late night news & current affairs
        TV PROGRAM TRANSCRIPT
        LOCATION: abc.net.au > Lateline > Archives
        URL: http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2003/s834110.htm

        • 1 vote
        #1.27 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:05 AM EST
        StoneyT

        Thanks Briwnys, your right. I guess thats one more thing Obama did just like Bush.

        • 2 votes
        #1.28 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:15 AM EST
        flameaway

        President GW Bush had a nasty case of premature victory.

        • 3 votes
        #1.29 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:22 AM EST
        Azzix

        Perfect! Thank you for illustrating my point!!

        Is this opposite day and nobody told me? Because I destroyed your assertion. Unless you came somehow illustrate how Mr. Bush is not salient to the point?

        When BO makes a mistake, the left never admits that a mistake has been made

        It would help if you backed up this new assertion with a citation. I know that isn't something the right is fond of doing -- backing up their accusations with evidence -- but it is helpful to those whom you are trying to persuade.

        • 1 vote
        #1.30 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:19 AM EST
        Michael in S J

        Stony

        "Operation Iraqi Freedom was carried out with a combination of precision, speed and boldness the enemy did not expect, and the world had not seen before," Bush told a sea of blue and khaki standing on the flight deck. "Marines and soldiers charged to Baghdad across 350 miles of hostile ground, in one of the swiftest advances of heavy arms in history. You have shown the world the skill and might of the American armed forces."

        Bush said the coalition that had liberated Iraq from dictator Saddam Hussein is now working to secure and reconstruct the country. The coalition aims to build schools and hospitals, prosecute Iraqi leaders and find weapons of mass destruction. "The war on terror is not over, yet it is not endless," Bush said. "We do not know the day of final victory, but we have seen the turning of the tide." May 2003

        I am going to offer a guess that most people who heard Bush that day thought the war was over, or at the least, not going to expand.

        Rob - LVNevada

        I served on a carrier (CVA-64 Yankee Station - 1966) and we flew our battle flag, not some huge banner design to serve as a backdrop for the above statement.

          #1.31 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:11 AM EST
          Global777

          azzix...

          I know that isn't something the right is fond of doing

          You have me confused with someone who places any value of your opinion of the Right.

          backing up their accusations with evidence

          Is this make stuff up day and nobody told me? No accusations were made. Observations... Observations!

          but it is helpful to those whom you are trying to persuade.

          If I really wanted to try to help and persuade, would it make sense to start with you???

          ...

          My point in thanking you, for illustrating my point, will hit you in the back of the head, on the way home...

          Or, maybe not!

          • 2 votes
          #1.32 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:36 AM EST
          Azzix

          You have me confused with someone who places any value of your opinion of the Right.

          The fact that you're engaging would indicate otherwise.

          Is this make stuff up day and nobody told me? No accusations were made. Observations... Observations!

          Ok, be pedantic if you wish. Do you have any evidence to back up your observation?

          My point in thanking you, for illustrating my point, will hit you in the back of the head, on the way home...

          You don't get to have a different reality than the rest of us. Once again, how is Mr. Bush not salient to the point? Unless you can show he wasn't, the mention of him is relevant, no matter how much you want to tell me that black is really white.

            #1.33 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:45 AM EST
            JollyRoger-3078677

            "Marines and soldiers charged to Baghdad across 350 miles of hostile ground, in one of the swiftest advances of heavy arms in history. You have shown the world the skill and might of the American armed forces."

            What a joke. He is referring to basically a 3rd world nation.

            • 4 votes
            #1.34 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:57 AM EST
            Rob-LVNevada

            I served on a carrier (CVA-64 Yankee Station - 1966) and we flew our battle flag, not some huge banner design to serve as a backdrop for the above statement.

            I think the graphics department of a modern, nuclear-powered, late Nimitz-class aircraft carrier has slightly different capabilities than one found on a carrier 40 years ago, no? I've rubbed chartpak letters onto various things...that was as good as it got back then...lol. Now someone clicks 14 buttons in Illustrator and shazam...it's an interactive presentation. Especially considering they were hosting the POTUS and everyone knew the media would be aboard, etc.

            The crew's mission was complete. The US still has/had a lot to do in Iraq. It was a poor, poor choice all around for POTUS to be seen giving a speech under said banner, I think we agree on that, no? Hell, I even called it:

            one of the biggest douche moves in recent history

            That just needs to be said more than once...lmfao.

            Thank you for your service.

              #1.35 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:06 PM EST
              Reply
              Nadia T. Pugglesworth, III

              Obama really doesn't like the unvarnished truth. Cramps his style.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#2 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:14 PM EST
              jimi

              Yep, that's why it was Obama asking him to resign. </sarcasm>

              It's people on the right here on the vine who are calling it a gaffe that he said China and Russia are a bigger threat then Iran and North Korea. Obama is standing by him, quite obviously because he doesn't dislike the unvarnished truth.

              • 9 votes
              #2.1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:36 PM EST
              Nadia T. Pugglesworth, III

              The problem is that Obama has gone on record saying that Ghadafi must go. Obama is doing nothing to back it up pragmatically, Ghadafi knows it and is accelerating his brutality against his own people to retake the cities that rebel forces now hold. Clapper is stating the obvious that given the facts to date that Ghadafi will prevail since he is in possession of far superior firepower to the rebels.

              Obama don't like looking bad.

              • 3 votes
              #2.2 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:58 PM EST
              paddymurph

              What can he do? Get involved in another quagmire in the middle east? I have two teenagers and their lives are more important than Libya.

              • 7 votes
              #2.3 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:01 PM EST
              Mimsy BorogroveDeleted
              jimi

              Of course Obama has said he has to go, but this mans job isn't to agree with Obama. Gadafi is a madman, and he has no qualms about killing indiscriminately. Facing the facts, this man believes Gadafi has a fair chance of quashing the rebellion - and sadly he probably isn't wrong.

              • 3 votes
              #2.5 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:06 PM EST
              Mimsy BorogroveDeleted
              jimi

              and this was hard to figure out?

              Apparently it was for Lindsey Graham.

              • 2 votes
              #2.7 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:15 PM EST
              alfie-omega

              our national intelligence is pretty friggin bad.

              Mimsy, I don't think our national intelligence is the problem. Its the politicians who want it to reflect things not in reality. Do they know everything? No, but when you have a whole wide world to look at, do you think you could get everything 100% correct? Remember, our enemies only have to be lucky once.

              • 1 vote
              #2.8 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:38 PM EST
              oldecrankyman

              If the last administration had let their intel people tell the truth publicly, we probably wouldn't have gotten conned into invading Iraq and essentially destroying the ground component of our military.

              • 4 votes
              #2.9 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:35 PM EST
              BZe1

              Does anyone in their right mind think that Graham et al did not know what Clapper was going to say? These folks should get an Oscar or a Poscar for their performance. LOL

              This is just another one of those putting the info out there and see if it 'floats' with the masses thing imo.

              This is just stage 2 in desensititzing the masses into having this country involved in yet another conflict..... which usually benefits their buds/donors and other countries like China etc, and not the masses in the USA who will be left holding the cheque as they bleed red.

              As a poster noted in a message on another topic .... that there are too many people in the USA. One could therefore look at this as a way of 'culling' the herd er... masses.

              It would seem that these republicans/ teabaggers / conservadems/ hawks etc have found a legal (and righteous) way of decreasing the population in this country...... by sending our young into another conflict to be 'lessened'. Hmmm

              Stage 1 was the various polititians warbling on about doing a 'no fly zone' over Libya. Unforunately for these folks for the US(A) to get involved militarily did/do not sit well with most of the masses here, who believe that this matter should be handled by the UN, the eurpeans, NATO, the countries in the region as first responders.

              It would also seem that the freedom fighters in Libya do not want the USA involved in their fight for freedom militarily either, from what some of them have stated. Unfortunately this is seldom noted in the mainstream media.

              To those folks who believe that the USA should get involved militarily..... if we can't afford to give unemployment benefits to the 99ers unemployed, can't afford healthcare cost for the masses because it is supposedly too expensive, can't afford to pay teachers and other public employees pensions and other benefits because the states are supposedly broke, and the mirad of other things like infrastructure repairs/rebuilding, high speed rail, funding of schools/public education or college etc how will we be able to afford this military exercise in Libya?

              Who is to pay for this?

              Will the top 10 percent be required to help pay for this new adventure in world policing?

              Well.... let's see what other 'gaffe' will be made (on purpose).... to see how it 'floats'.

              After all ......Nothing happens in a vacuum......

              • 1 vote
              #2.10 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:32 AM EST
              Bob-118

              This government would be comical if it weren't so tragic.

              • 2 votes
              #2.11 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:59 AM EST
              Reply
              jusbkoz

              Clapper must be the "Other Guy" living under a rock in the Geico commercial!

              • 2 votes
              Reply#3 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:35 PM EST
              Fufu

              "I just think from a standpoint of attrition, that over time, I mean — this is kind of a stalemate back and forth, but I think over the longer term that the (Gadhafi) regime will prevail," Clapper said.

              What the... ?

              That seems like a fairly accurate assessment of the situation.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#4 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:36 PM EST
              Stop Funding Illegals

              This guy just continues to show Obama hasn't a clue how to pick a staff that knows how to get the job done and stay in tune and in touch.

              For all of his recent gafs this one actually has some truth.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#5 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:38 PM EST
              MYOB-1251250

              Yes, republicans would prefer liars...

              • 5 votes
              #5.1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:26 PM EST
              Global777

              myob...

              republicans would prefer liars...

              Not true. Proof: We didn't vote for BO!

              • 3 votes
              #5.2 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:26 PM EST
              oldecrankyman

              republicans would prefer liars...

              Not true. Proof: We didn't vote for BO!

              Absolutely true, you voted for GWB, Mr WMD more than once. Whoops.

              • 5 votes
              #5.3 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:37 PM EST
              Global777

              olde...

              "Absolutely true, you voted for GWB, Mr WMD more than once."

              OK. I give you that one. There was no defense for that.

              Knowing, in hind sight, that he left Colin Powell to take the heat in front of the United Nations is unforgivable.

              But, Bush is gone. BO is the current liar. How do we get rid of BO; another liar??

              • 3 votes
              #5.4 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:02 AM EST
              Bob-118

              Stop Funding #5 - Maybe Mr. Clapper's "gaffs" aren't gaffs but his honest opinions. Honest opinions in Washington D.C. must be more rare than white tigers.

              Without outside intervention by some European country or America the rebels will, in all likelihood, be defeated.

              • 2 votes
              #5.5 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:50 PM EST
              Rob-LVNevada

              Without outside intervention by some European country or America the rebels will, in all likelihood, be defeated.

              I think this is a pretty huge statement, honestly, about the power of the free exchange of ideas over the Internet. I just have to think your average Libyan's Internet access is a little different than their neighbor to their West.

                #5.6 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:27 PM EST
                Rob-LVNevada

                than their neighbor to their West.

                East. Egypt. Duh...lol

                  #5.7 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:59 AM EST
                  Bob-118

                  RobLV - The rebels don't have much in the way of heavy weapons; they probably have only rudimentary supply chains; I imagine that their communication capabilities are via cell phone and probably not secure; they have no aircraft

                  • 1 vote
                  #5.8 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:58 AM EST
                  oldecrankyman

                  If they have enough committed bodies, they'll win.

                    #5.9 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:27 AM EST
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                    NOBAMARAMA

                    God forbid somebody tells the truth in Washington. Guess they have to look out for their Chinese masters though.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#6 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:41 PM EST
                    MYOB-1251250

                    I guess he was supposed to be a mine reader and say what the the repubs wanted to hear.

                      Reply#7 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:47 PM EST
                      JohnRussell

                      This guy's days are numbered. I saw the exchange on the news and he comes off as befuddled and confused. At first glance you might wonder if he is a little lacking upstairs. Not a good image for a DC power player.

                      He will be gone soon.

                      Oh and now I see this article doesn't even mention his stumbling and fumbling answer about China.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#8 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:47 PM EST
                      MYOB-1251250

                      Was it an editid faux clip?

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:27 PM EST
                      paddymurph

                      But, was he wrong?

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.2 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:33 PM EST
                      oldecrankyman

                      The point appears to be not whether he was right or not, but how he appeared on TV. He clearly doesn't have the hair to be a power player.

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.3 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:38 PM EST
                      JohnRussell

                      I actually didn't see him talking about Libya. One of the Senators, I think it was Carl Levin, asked him which one country he thought had the worst intent toward the US. He hemmed and hawed and didn't seem to understand the question, then said "China" which seemed to flabbergast Levin, who I presume was expecting to hear "Iran" or "North Korea". It wasn't what the guy said though, it was how he said it. He actually appeared befuddled by the question.

                      • 2 votes
                      #8.4 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:20 AM EST
                      Steve-2081387

                      From what Ive seen of Clapper, past and present, the guy is a disaster looking for some place to happen.

                      • 1 vote
                      #8.5 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:12 PM EST
                      Bob-118

                      Naming China as the country having "...worst intent toward the US." may have taken more courage than naming either North Korea or Iran.

                      • 3 votes
                      #8.6 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:15 PM EST
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                      Bdobb

                      Why does the author call Clapper's statement a "gaffe", when it was his professional assessement of the situation in Libya? As far as I'm concerned, BLUNT is GOOD these days-something Obama the lawer is sorely lacking.

                      • 11 votes
                      Reply#9 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:48 PM EST
                      chitownty

                      It's called a gaffe by the MSM because they're so used to being lied to and not asking for the truth.So when someone actually speaks the truth,their befuddled brains get all scrambled.So it must be a GAFFE!

                      • 9 votes
                      #9.1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:55 PM EST
                      kerfufflefuss

                      This is not a good topic....................

                      • 1 vote
                      #9.2 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:12 PM EST
                      Bob-118

                      It may not be a good topic but it is a good example of political theater. It would appear that the star of this Act isn't sticking to the official script.

                      • 2 votes
                      #9.3 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:21 PM EST
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                      greenpagan

                      Maybe Clapper needs to have his batteries recharged? Or his bald head examined!

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#10 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:55 PM EST
                      captain-2543383

                      Why is this a gaff? The guy tells the truth and the author of the article along with Linsey Graham, Leiberman and McCain want us to create another power vacuum in the Middle East that we are too broke to fill. They are such humanitarians!

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#11 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:55 PM EST
                      ma91744-1401618

                      The U.S. has no business saying whether Gadhafi should or should not stay in power. Libyan rebels are uprising against the government and Gadhafi is suppressing them. It sounds to me like the U.S. is saying to Gadhafi "You should step down because people in your country want you to." I doubt if the penny loafer was on the other foot, and red states wanted the Obama administration to step down and took up arms against the Obama administration, the Obama administration would allow the states to secede because the people want it. I bet those red states would get hit hard and fast.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#12 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:57 PM EST
                      determined0a1

                      Maybe Clapper wants to retire before the sugar hits the fan.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#13 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:58 PM EST
                      Jedi Porn Star

                      There should be a degree of reform to address the accessibility of this type of forum. To me, this forum is a means to gather information by our elected officials. -and I'm happy to live in a place where, from my couch, I can see them gathering that information. The idea that one should tailor their testimony, for an international audience (as is this case).... is not right.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#14 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:00 PM EST
                      Bob-118

                      Jedi, we can tell by your moniker that you are new to this planet. You must be remembering a perfect world... somewhere else.

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.1 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:28 PM EST
                      Jedi Porn Star

                      A different planet indeed. A happy place where I used the force to... Well. Nevermind. (its a fun name)

                      I'm just saying that all governments are slow to realize the realities of technology and the information age-and we're now different here. The fact that congress holds public hearings where top ranking officials testify that the revolution in Libya will fail, can only serve to undermine the very outcome we hope for. I'm not sure we're taking stock of this reality. Yet.

                      • 2 votes
                      #14.2 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:07 PM EST
                      oldecrankyman

                      The generals are always fighting the previous war.

                        #14.3 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:29 AM EST
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                        T. Gracchus

                        The official reiterated Obama's stand that Gadhafi has lost legitimacy and should leave power.

                        ... but I think over the longer term that the (Gadhafi) regime will prevail (Clapper)

                        How are these statements in conflict?

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#15 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:03 PM EST
                        chitownty

                        They are not,but there does seem to be a lack of "READING WITH COMPREHENSION",as my teachers used to say amongst those on the "Vine".

                        • 2 votes
                        #15.1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:41 PM EST
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                        JollyRoger-3078677

                        >national intelligence

                        Must be something new? The intelligence part of our federal government that is.

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#16 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:04 PM EST
                        Bubba-939441

                        I'm just a Bubba, but I agree, Gadhafi will prevail unless our Commander in Chief wants to invlove us in another war. He didn't say what Obama wanted him to say.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#17 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:18 PM EST
                        oldecrankyman

                        He didn't say what Obama wanted him to say.

                        So Bubba, what exactly did Obama want him to say?

                          #17.1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:40 PM EST
                          Steve-2081387

                          Ill bet one thing Obama DIDNT want him to say was that China and Russia are our greatest threats. Making your boss look bad isnt good for your career.

                          • 1 vote
                          #17.2 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:17 PM EST
                          Bubba-939441

                          So Bubba, what exactly did Obama want him to say?

                          He wanted him to say the rebels and democracy will prevail without US intervention. I wonder what Reagan would say? Isn't Gadhafi wearing some shrapnel compliments of Mr Reagan.

                            #17.3 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:40 PM EST
                            chitownty

                            Yeah,compliments to Reagan,he's still there.

                              #17.4 - Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:32 AM EST
                              oldecrankyman

                              He wanted him to say the rebels and democracy will prevail without US intervention.

                              Did Mr Obama tell you that on your bat phone?

                                #17.5 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:32 AM EST
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                                james-1932304

                                Now where have we heard this before..OOOO I know 9/11 they have wepons of mass-destruction. the GOPs is trying to goat the President Obama into makeing wrong decison. just look at the governs across the country.. an if think this is off topic-- think Again.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#18 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:20 PM EST
                                Bdobb

                                james- There's a growing contingency of others beyond our GOP who want our President to take SOME type of action, including a multitude of democrats, the French and the Arab Nations. Obama "made his bed" when telling QuackDaffy that he must go away...I hope for the sake of Obama's credibility, he wasn't spewing false bravado. He has a fantastic opportunity to show some courage for once.

                                • 2 votes
                                #18.1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:19 PM EST
                                Martin FEDWAY

                                bluazzgreeze-The problem with the GOP is the IOU that they allowed the CIA and the FBI to go on the QT affecting the GNP and 10 year jaque bonds. This affect the disbursement of the gift cards owed to the knicks and curds or the knickcurds.

                                  #18.2 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:00 PM EST
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                                  ajf-393943

                                   At least clapper has the balls to speak what is on his mind. Obama is nothing but a pussy. We all better pray that he isnt reelected.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#19 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:20 PM EST
                                  Steve-2081387

                                  Obamas biggest problem is that he thinks he can talk anybody into anything, and when he cant he gets that deer in the headlights look.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #19.1 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:19 PM EST
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                                  hhabilis

                                  How can telling the truth to Congress possibly be construed as an error? If that's what the take is telling Clapper (and the head of the DIA agrees with him), that's what he should be telling us, not some wishful thinking cooked up by Obama and crew. We can't even begin to craft policy without an accurate assessment of the situation. Did we learn nothing from Iraq?

                                  Somebody needs to tell those guys that wishing won't make it so.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  Reply#20 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:23 PM EST
                                  Mimsy BorogroveDeleted
                                  Bubba-939441

                                  Will Gadhafi prevail without US intervention?

                                    Reply#22 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:07 PM EST
                                    PERRY-386792

                                    ummmm...yeah

                                      #22.1 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:01 AM EST
                                      Rob-LVNevada

                                      The real answer: who knows.

                                      The real awful truth: he might also prevail, with US intervention.

                                      He's not exactly a guy unused to death threats. He's a dictator that's been in power my entire life - and at age 40, there really just aren't too many of them left.

                                      Maybe we can convert the F-111s and F-14s we used last time into unmanned drones packed with ordinance to teach his sorry ass a lesson...:)

                                        #22.2 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:18 PM EST
                                        oldecrankyman

                                        If the people are committed, Gadhafi will lose. His military is a joke by his plan. Time and history favor the rebels.

                                          #22.3 - Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:36 AM EST
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                                          dbghnmjkDeleted
                                          frugalgovernment

                                          Too bad James R. Clapper wasn't this honest when he was so dang convincing explaining why U.S. troops apon liberating the world of Iraqi WMD which mysteriously dissappeared and our boys could not locate a single WMD weapon post invasion on behalf of the President George W. Bush/Dick Cheney fossil fuel administration. I believe the party line back then was the WMD must have been shipped out of Iraq to neighboring countries right under our noses, gosh darn it awe shucks. Of course this is the same intelligence rocket scientist who gave a televised interview before being briefed about the arrest of 12 alledge terrorist in Great Britain on the same day:

                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Clapper

                                          In 2003 Clapper, then head of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, attempted to explain the absence of WMDs in Iraq by asserting that the weapons materials were "unquestionably" shipped out of Iraq to Syria and other countries just before the American invasion, a "personal assessment" which Clapper's own agency head at the time, David Burpee, "could not provide further evidence to support."[4] In an interview on December 20, 2010 with Diane Sawyer of ABC News, Clapper was unaware that twelve alleged would-be terrorists were arrested in Great Britain earlier in the day.[5][6]

                                          What a great democracy, no wonder we are so well respected around the world. Its no wonder the Indias and Chinas of the world can't wait to emulate the American model.

                                          U.S.A, U.S.A., U.S.A.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          Reply#24 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:17 PM EST
                                          Loyal Demokrat

                                          Clap on..clap off...clap on.....the Clapper.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          Reply#25 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:25 PM EST
                                          PERRY-386792

                                          LMAO

                                            #25.1 - Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:00 AM EST
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                                            Jann Jay

                                            Mr Clapper is stating an public opinion based on the model of analytical information as its stood today. Tomorrow is a different day. The war monger Graham would get America into a war with Iran. Voters be aware for your safety, freedom and treasury.

                                              Reply#26 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:28 PM EST
                                              jaina 1950

                                              Evidently, the big mistake was to have an opinion. Let's get real here-none of us here know how strong Khadaffi is in Libya. A couple of administratons already gave him a bye on Lockerbie. He was Saddaam before Saddaam was, but he got a pass. Maybe we are not the great and exalted ruler of the world. Lots of Germans loved Hitler; lots of Italians thought Mussolini was the nuts. Lots of Americans dislike President Obama (I pity the fools)-what's so awful about saying that he might be a chosen leader. I want no part of this fight-we have sacrificed too many young men and women already.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              Reply#27 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:51 PM EST
                                              PERRY-386792

                                              he's certainly a chosen politician. chosen leader is questionable

                                                #27.1 - Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:53 PM EST
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