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Some grocers abandon rebates for reusable bags

Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:22 AM EDT
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Dan Sewell, Associated Press
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<p>In this Feb. 1, 2011 photo, Lynne Curtiss places her reusable Kroger Co. shopping bags in her car after shopping, in Cincinnati. The nation's largest grocery store chain has eliminated a bonus for shoppers using their own reusable bags, even at a time when some cities have banned or put fees on the use of plastic bags. (AP Photo/Al Behrman)</p>

In this Feb. 1, 2011 photo, Lynne Curtiss places her reusable Kroger Co. shopping bags in her car after shopping, in Cincinnati. The nation's largest grocery store chain has eliminated a bonus for shoppers using their own reusable bags, even at a time when some cities have banned or put fees on the use of plastic bags. (AP Photo/Al Behrman)

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CINCINNATI — Supermarkets are finding a little bit of green doesn't make a big difference in breaking shoppers of the "paper or plastic?" habit.

Some chains including Kroger and Safeway are starting to move away from the pennies-per-bag rebates, saying they don't do enough to keep customers from forgetting reusables at home or in their cars.

Grocers save money when customers bring reusable bags. They also want to stay ahead of plastic-bag bans and taxes that could cost them or their customers more money.

Kroger Co., the nation's largest supermarket chain, had been giving three- to five-cent rebates or fuel discounts for each reusable bag. But it ended the bonuses this year in some regions. Customer feedback indicates most want to use reusable bags, company officials say; it's a matter of making it a habit. So Kroger officials say they're focusing more on promotions and educational efforts, investing in signs and other visible reminders.

Now, many Kroger parking lots are dotted with signs asking "Are your reusable bags still in the car?" Messages around stores tout the environmental value of bag reuse. A reusable bag replaces hundreds of disposable bags, one says; another: "Less Plastic? Fantastic." Kroger also sent shoppers coupons for reusable bags, holds bag design contests and giveaways, and puts out containers for recycling plastic bags.

Kroger spokesman Brendon Cull says the company has found no significant difference between reusable bag frequency in markets with rebates and those without them.

Safeway Inc. also has been phasing out cash rebates such as 3 cents per bag in some regions. It's still dangling discounts, but making them more occasional and targeted. Shoppers who use Safeway's "Bright Green" reusable bags get 10 percent off Safeway's line of environmentally geared household products.

Moral appeals and trendiness are more powerful than small discounts, said Ted Brown, a consultant who helped develop one of the earliest reusable bag programs two decades ago. Make reusables fashionable and fun, and shoppers won't forget.

About 95 percent of food retailers offer reusable bags, the Food Marketing Institute says. In 2010 half of shoppers said they "try" to bring reusable bags, up 10 percent over the prior year. However, half reported their use as never or less than monthly. That figure isn't falling much.

"Getting consumers to change their habits is difficult under any economic conditions," said Joel Makower, a consultant and executive editor of Greener World Media Inc. "Stubbornness is recession-proof."

Some governments have decided that sticks work better than carrots.

San Francisco in 2007 banned plastic bags and was followed by more than dozen other cities and counties. Washington, D.C., last year began taxing shoppers 5 cents per disposable bag. Disposable bag use fell by 80 percent in some stores, officials say.

Several states are considering bans or fees on disposable bags. Countries from Ireland to China have also restricted plastic bag use.

Some people see paper bags as preferable because they are renewable and biodegradable, but their use takes its own environmental tolls. Retailers are wary of paper-bag domination because of higher costs, about three times more than plastic.

Still, some miss the small but noticeable incentive. Andrea Deckard of Monroe, Ohio, says Kroger's rebates saved her about 20 cents a visit.

"I don't know what it would have hurt to continue it," said Deckard, who shares bill-cutting tips on her blog "The Savings Lifestyle." "It was just like a coupon to a lot of people."

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Miss_Diagnosed

I'm guilty for leaving my bags at home from time to time, but its not like 5 cents a bag is a real incentive to never forget. They got it right that people just forget. The most bags I have ever used is 7... 7x5c = 35cents off... so do I care (from a monetary view) if I forget them? Not really.

Now if they offered 5 bucks off, you could bet every person out there would be all for it. Even more so if they made it just a chance... say every 100th customer with bags would get 5 bucks off. You see someone win that once and you will always bring at least one bag in.

They might even get more response out of a free something to every Xth customer. Like a free gallon of milk or something. Marketing 5cents a bag is more expensive than giving away a free loaf of bread to every 50th customer.

  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:22 AM EDT
belove48

I'm with you on that, Miss. I forget from time to time. To be honest, I use the bags because they hold more and they're easier to carry than plastic. Not because I get a discount.

I shop at a couple of places but the Kroger I shop at has never offered a discount for using my own bags.

  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:34 AM EDT
Stone5150

I have been using the cloth bags since they become easily available, but I do leave them in the car occasionally on purpose. I need the disposable ones for scooping the cat box.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:21 PM EDT
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KYPIAKOC

How about just plain not providing plastic bags? Someone forgets their cloth bag at home? Guess they're out of luck. After forgetting one or two times most likely they'll start to form the habit of taking the re-usables with them.

  • 6 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:47 AM EDT
David S Jones

Or at the very least; only offer paper bags.

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:11 AM EDT
weRdoomed

I still think they should keep the incentive AND provide more education. How about getting those kids who collect the carts to wear a vest that has the reminder? Or, heaven forbid, encourage them to talk to people getting out of their car and reminding them?

Taking away the incentive just punishes the people who always do remember and like to count every penny and know the store where I shop isn't taking me for everything they possibly can.

As the article states - stores save money on me because I do not use their bags. Yet, I get nothing in return for that. I pay the same amount as the irresponsible people who either don't bother or forget their bags PLUS I had to pay for my bags in the first place!

  • 6 votes
#2.2 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:34 AM EDT
KYPIAKOC

I think paper is just as bad as plastic, deforestation is no joke, imagine if we threw paper bgs out at the same rate we're throwing away plastic bags. What needs to change is the idea of disposable everything. We have to learn to take care of the things we have instead of throwing so much stuff in the garbage and getting a new one.

  • 6 votes
#2.3 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:47 AM EDT
weRdoomed

But trees can and do grow back...plus paper is compostable and breaks down in landfills - unlike plastic.

  • 7 votes
#2.4 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:08 AM EDT
KYPIAKOC

Yes, but they don't grow back as fast as we can cut them down. We're already depleting our forests as it is, we can't afford to add more demand on top of what there already is.

  • 3 votes
#2.5 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:33 AM EDT
weRdoomed

we can't afford to add more demand on top of what there already is.

Agreed...so give me my damn discount for using my canvas bags!! :)

  • 5 votes
#2.6 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:38 AM EDT
Shawn [a.k.a. "Shadow"]

But trees can and do grow back...plus paper is compostable and breaks down in landfills - unlike plastic.

Exactly...and we could use the paper bags for other things, and then use their paper to recycle and re-make them over and over. I have difficulty getting on board with the idea that reusable bags. I mean...I understand the proposed environmental savings, but then I look at stuff when I come home and the plastic bags have some meat blood, some chicken stuff, milk crust, etc...so then what - you bring home your bags and wash them all every week? So, we burn through water and electric every couple days for savings?

Or - if you want to throw a Koger logo on a bag...give it away - you're getting paid advertising for every person that carries them around.

Seemed that the paper idea was pretty solid "back in the day" and that the argument for plastic was you could carry more at the same time b/c of the handles - I'll make a couple extra trips (and Lord knows most people need to make a few extra trips to the car these days) so that I can have a paper bag (maybe with coupons/advertising on it?) that can be used to line trash cans at home, and that can also be recycled through the process again. (Not to mention, they kept things more organized in the car instead of plastic where things are rolling all over the place).

It just reminds me of the new light bulbs which I guess we're all going to be forced to use starting next year. You'll pay a lot more, but you'll save on electric costs (of course since you can't throw them out, you'll have to drive out to the HD or Lowes to dispose of them, wasting wear/tear on car as well as gas, but what you'll lose there, you'll save on electric...right)?

  • 5 votes
#2.7 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:40 AM EDT
KYPIAKOC

Lol, you should get a double discount- one for being eco-friendly, and one for your enthusiasm;)

  • 2 votes
#2.8 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:41 AM EDT
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nabbed25

I am a member at Sam's club and they do not provide bags, a box from a load of detergent maybe. We have to get away from using these plastic bags on a daily basis. It is amazing what you find on a beach these days, we used to look for see glass, but now with all of the plastic bits it's tough. I have about 8 bags that I bring to the supermarket every week and I have already found myself not having as many plastic shopping bags around the house...I really don't do it for the 40 cents...

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:54 AM EDT
Grim Reaper-2345468

This is one of the many reason to legalize hemp.

  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:38 AM EDT
belove48

Legalized hemp would also increasegrocery store sales. I have the munchies just thinking about it. Lol!!!

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:19 PM EDT
Grim Reaper-2345468

Except you can't get high off hemp. LOL

  • 2 votes
#4.2 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:24 PM EDT
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an der Lahn

In Germany - you don't get a free bag. If you forget your bag or basket you can buy bags. The reusable cotton/burlap/whatever they are cost about 30 - 50 cents - the biodegradable plastic ones they sell cost about 10 - 30cents (much bigger and more reliable then those that bust with heavy stuff you find in the US).

Plus - you have to bag your own groceries.

I think the markets over here are making out on this bag bit. If someone from the US comes over here they are in for a surprise on their first visit to a market.

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:16 PM EDT
KYPIAKOC

Oh the humanity! How do you live with that?

:)

  • 1 vote
#5.1 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
an der Lahn

It is humiliating to bag your own groceries. You just can't do it fast as a professional. The cashier isn't going to slow down for you.

You just have to through everything into your cart then bag it along a shelf after you pay.

  • 1 vote
#5.2 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:20 PM EDT
KYPIAKOC

True, and there's where cloth bags are a big advantage. If you're fighting to get the "%$@ bag to separate, you lose a lot of time. I also didn't like having to put a coin into the cart to use it. Sure, you get your coin back when you put the cart back where it belongs, but if you aren't carrying change... :P Smart system though.

  • 1 vote
#5.3 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:48 PM EDT
Shawn [a.k.a. "Shadow"]

You just have to through everything into your cart then bag it along a shelf after you pay.

...or in a more advanced model, you bag it as your shopping, and then walk through a scanner that is able to pick up all the items in one swoop...that would be the ideal. You could bag your own at your own pace, no shop-lifting would take place (as you'd be busted walking out), and the long lines at the front of the stores would go away.

We can do it with cars driving upwards of 90mph down the turnpike, you can't tell me the same model can't be done for groceries in a store...

    #5.4 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:52 PM EDT
    an der Lahn

    If you're not carrying change your not German.

    If you're an American in Germany - after a long day sight seeing you look in your pockets to check your change and find out you've got near 20 Euro in coins.

    • 1 vote
    #5.5 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:53 PM EDT
    Grim Reaper-2345468

    Here in the Pacific NW we have WinCo. You have to bag your own groceries. I don't mind as long as I have someone at home to help me haul them into the house.

      #5.6 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:14 PM EDT
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      RACHEL1-933952

      We rarely forget our bags & when we do, we buy more at the store. $1.00 ea won't break us. Plus, our store gives us 5 cents each...we've already paid for ours many times over...as we usually have 12-20 bags per trip.

      • 5 votes
      Reply#6 - Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:39 PM EDT
      Gnosis13

      The reusable bags can't be ripped by a pizza box. That was all the encouragement I needed.

      • 4 votes
      Reply#7 - Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:59 PM EDT
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