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Ex-PM Brown alleges Murdoch paper used criminals

Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:20 AM EDT
world-news, business, eu, britain, gordon-brown, hacking, rupert-murdoch, david-cameron, phone-hacking
Danica Kirka, Associated Press
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<p>Members of the media prepare for their report outside News International's office in London, Monday, July 11, 2011. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg on Monday urged Rupert Murdoch to reconsider his bid for broadcaster BSkyB, citing an outpouring of revulsion that followed the phone hacking scandal that hit the tabloid News of the World.(AP Photo/Akira Suemori)</p>

Members of the media prepare for their report outside News International's office in London, Monday, July 11, 2011. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg on Monday urged Rupert Murdoch to reconsider his bid for broadcaster BSkyB, citing an outpouring of revulsion that followed the phone hacking scandal that hit the tabloid News of the World.(AP Photo/Akira Suemori)

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LONDON — Former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown on Tuesday accused Rupert Murdoch's newspapers of employing criminals to obtain confidential information about his family, his private financial affairs and the lives of ordinary people who were at "rock bottom."

Brown's furious denunciation of the politically powerful News International papers came a day after questions were raised about how The Sun newspaper obtained confidential information in 2006 that Brown's infant son Fraser had cystic fibrosis.

In an interview with the British Broadcasting Corp., Brown said he and his wife Sarah were in tears after being informed by Rebekah Brooks, then the editor of The Sun and now the chief executive of News International, that the paper knew about his son's illness.

Brown also accused The Sunday Times of employing criminals to hack into his bank and tax records.

Prime Minister David Cameron said Brown had highlighted what "looks like yet another example of an appalling invasion of privacy and the hacking of personal data," and said he was determined that the current investigations would get to the bottom of it.

Outrage over the long-simmering allegations of wrongdoing at the Murdoch-owned News of the World exploded last week when it was claimed that employees of the newspaper hacked the phone of Milly Dowler, a 13-year-old murder victim, as police searched for her in 2002. The employees allegedly deleted some voicemail messages, giving her parents false hope that the girl was still alive and using the phone.

With breathtaking speed, the scandal has disrupted the media mogul's plans to take over highly profitable satellite broadcaster British Sky Broadcasting and slashed billions off the value of his global conglomerate, News Corp.

"This was a culture in both The Sunday Times and in other newspapers in News International where they really exploited people — I'm not talking so much about me here now, I'm talking about people who were at rock bottom — and rock bottom was the rock upon which The Sunday Times founded their reputation, and other newspapers in News International founded their reputation, for purely commercial gain and in some cases to abuse political power," Brown said.

"What about the person, like the family of Milly Dowler, who are in the most desperate of circumstances, the most difficult occasions in their lives, in huge grief and then they find that they are totally defenseless in this moment of greatest grief from people who are employing these ruthless tactics with links to known criminals?"

Brown did not identify anyone he believed to be a criminal employed by News International.

In a brief statement responding to Brown, News International said: "So that we can investigate these matters further, we ask that all information concerning these allegations is provided to us."

Brown said he knew of no legitimate means by which The Sun found out about his son's illness.

"They will have to explain themselves," he said. "I can't think of any way that the medical condition of a child can be put into the public arena legitimately unless the doctor makes a statement or the family makes a statement."

A News International official, speaking on condition of anonymity, asserted that the information was obtained legitimately.

Later Tuesday, London police officers faced questions from a legislative committee about why they didn't pursue a phone hacking investigation at the tabloid News of the World two years ago.

Before the hearing, opposition Labour Party legislators called for the resignation of John Yates, assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, who decided in 2009 that there was nothing more to investigate at the paper. Yates says he relied on advice from colleagues.

Yates said News of the World and News International had not cooperated with investigators.

"In hindsight, had I known what I should have known, it was a poor decision," he said.

Ian Blair, the head of the Metropolitan Police from 2005 to 2008, told legislators that phone hacking by newspapers "was never a major issue in my time."

"It was a tiny fragmentary event in the events that were taking place across London at the time," Blair said, as police were focused on the fight against terrorism.

In 2007, a reporter and a private detective working for News of the World were sent to prison for hacking the voicemail messages of royal family employees.

The scandal has also raised fresh questions about Cameron's judgment because he hired former News of the World editor Andy Coulson as his communications chief.

Coulson, who had resigned from the newspaper in 2007 because of the hacking convictions, was arrested by police last week as part of the new investigation.

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DUDE-875416

Wow, how things are different between our two countries. Here in America we just gave the FBI the legal ability to "hack" into anybodys cell phone without permission from superiors or from a judge. The direction our government is going in is concerning.

  • 3 votes
#1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:31 AM EDT
DUDE-875416

Should be interesting to see a Murdock hating, liberal Democrat post on this subject. If they do, I suspect they will contradict themselves since they support Obama and his policies as described above. What say you libbies?

  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:05 AM EDT
TomTom-72

This Republican backing Australian has caused so much trouble in Europe and in the US; it puzzles me as to why he hasn't been deported.

He should be deported back to Australia where he can live among, and write about, the kangaroos.

  • 13 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:45 AM EDT
ww-chs-sc

and take his American crocodile crew with him.

  • 10 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:47 AM EDT
agagnu

Dude, are you hinting that you "love" Murdock so much to trust that that the foxfart always smell rosy?

  • 9 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:59 AM EDT
multifariousone

DUDE-875416

Here you go:

1. There is a vast difference between the FBI eavesdropping and a private citizen or corporation.

2. The criminality in the Murdoch operation is widespread. It now extends to The Sunday Times and Murdoch is being hauled into Parliament to testify. His son has already told Parliament that he knew nothing about what his reporters were doing. We shall see if he lied to Parliament or not. Time will tell.

3. The value of Murdoch's "empire" has plummet in the last 5 days. This has already cost him $7 Billion and my guess is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Who knows, old Rupert could end up in jail himself.

4. The eavesdropping investigation began because his people were stupid enough to make a private phone call between Prince William and his doctor public.

5. They hacked into the voice mail of a dead 13 year old girl. They deleted messages to make more room for more messages leading the police and this poor child's parents to believe that she was alive. 6. The "people" also made public private information about the health of the former Prime Minister's six year old son.

7. In any civilized society these actions are considered criminal and this stuff proves that the Murdoch organization is a criminal enterprise. We shall see how far it goes. The FCC is already looking at the possibility of similar behavior in the U.S. My bet is that they'll find it as breaking into the email and voicemail of others seems to be SOP in the Murdoch organization.

8. By the way, we were given The Patriot Act under George Bush. I can only imagine the cry of outrage from the right if it was modified under the Obama administration.

So here's a "libbie" that decries such actions as totally immoral, reprehensible and disgusting.

What say you?

  • 12 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:30 AM EDT
multifariousone

TomTom:

Murdoch is a U.S. citizen.

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:10 AM EDT
Radical_Centrist

multifariousone

Murdoch is a U.S. citizen.

It could be removed.

  • 4 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:18 AM EDT
multifariousone

It could be removed.

How?

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:31 AM EDT
TomTom-72

@multifariousone

Murdoch is a U.S. citizen.

He is only a naturalized citizen; and a careful review of his application will discover lies and other inconsistencies; and that would be sufficient ground for his deportation. Hey, it always work whenever the US wants to deport a naturalized citizen.

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:57 AM EDT
DUDE-875416

agagnu

Dude, are you hinting that you "love" Murdock so much to trust that that the foxfart always smell rosy?

Nope, never posted an opinion regarding Murdock and his little empire. Just like most liberals, they put words in your mouth or make accusations that are totally incorrect because it fits their views.

multifariousone

DUDE-875416

Here you go:

1. There is a vast difference between the FBI eavesdropping and a private citizen or corporation....

So you have no problem with the FBI field agents, the grunts that need guidance, to "eavesdrop" just not an individual or corporation. No matter how you cut it or who is doing the "eavesdropping", it is wrong and shouldn't be allowed. But you choose to support it so you can denounce anything Murdock. Brilliant

As far as the rest of your comments, so what? I know Murdock isn't clean as I know the other network owners aren't clean either. The big picture here is the invasion of privacy that the FBI and Murdock are pursuing and getting away with it.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:03 AM EDT
abolish taxes

Nope, never posted an opinion regarding Murdock and his little empire.

Yea exactly, you didn't post an opinion regarding the subject of the article......Murdoch. You instead just went on some political rant. Good job.

  • 5 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:20 AM EDT
agagnu

Good job at 1.10dude, foxfart has taught you well...spin a lie for "truth" to sell ads. Heck they should hire you to assist Brook.

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:32 AM EDT
JEN-357892

Just like most liberals, they put words in your mouth or make accusations that are totally incorrect because it fits their views.

So it is not an accusation when you say the liberals will put words in your mouth? Or to say they make accusation that are incorrect because it fits their views?

Should be interesting to see a Murdock hating, liberal Democrat post on this subject. If they do, I suspect they will contradict themselves since they support Obama and his policies as described above. What say you libbies?

Do you not see the irony of your own words?

Don't bother to answer. I will not be back. Your rhetoric starts off clearly to incite those who disagree with you and I have seen how that does encourage people to join a discussion in defense, but I would rather a rational, logical, topic discussion than one that is seemingly designed just to bait others into arguments. And yes, there is a difference between a debate discussion and intentional provoking which the latter is clearly what you are doing here. There are enough articles on the topic to find a more respectable to all sides conversation.

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:44 AM EDT
DUDE-875416

JEN-357892

So it is not an accusation when you say the liberals will put words in your mouth?

Yes and no. Yes, it is an accusation until proven true, then it becomes fact. With this post:

"There is a vast difference between the FBI eavesdropping and a private citizen or corporation...."

The poster tried to say invasion of privacy from the FBI is different than the invasion of privacy from an individual or corporation (like Murdock). Invasion of privacy is exactly that, invasion of privacy no matter who commits the act which supports my comment #1.1 causing it to now be fact not an accusation.

Or to say they make accusation that are incorrect because it fits their views?

No, that would be the motive to making the accusation which had come to pass as being true.

Do you not see the irony of your own words?

Sure do! I find it ironic that I was correct in my suspicion. Thanks for clarifying that.

    #1.14 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:26 PM EDT
    DUDE-875416

    abolish taxes

    Yea exactly, you didn't post an opinion regarding the subject of the article......Murdoch. You instead just went on some political rant. Good job.

    You see Murdock, I see the right to privacy being violated and can care less who commits it, it's wrong.

    • 2 votes
    #1.15 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:30 PM EDT
    multifariousone

    So you have no problem with the FBI field agents, the grunts that need guidance, to "eavesdrop" just not an individual or corporation.

    You know, I have no need to defend myself against small mindedness. That said, there is a vast difference between the FBI and Newscorp and I don't defend the invasion of privacy by anyone.

    As far as the rest of your comments, so what?

    So what? Hilarious. So what? Here's what; these guys are going to jail. Maybe even Rupert himself. We can only hope.

    Set to ignore. Bye bye troll.

    • 1 vote
    #1.16 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:02 PM EDT
    DUDE-875416

    multifariousone

    You know, I have no need to defend myself against small mindedness. That said, there is a vast difference between the FBI and Newscorp and I don't defend the invasion of privacy by anyone.

    Let's break this down shall we?

    • You believe there is a vast difference between invasion of privacy from government and invasion of privacy from individual/corporate entities.
    • You also stated I don't defend the invasion of privacy by anyone.

    So, which is it? You do or you don't support Obama's decision for the FBI to conduct cell phone taps without ANY approval from superiors or judge? You can't have it both ways.

    I would say that was an obvious contradiction. Once again my post #1.1 came true.

    • 1 vote
    #1.17 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:54 PM EDT
    DUDE-875416

    multifariousone

    Set to ignore. Bye bye troll.

    Typical liberal. When the going gets tough, they run away.

      #1.18 - Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:20 AM EDT
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      English Oak

      i've been watching BBC news for the last 4 hrs, Murdock is in for the high jump, even the Police officer incharge of investigating has had his phone hacked

      • 9 votes
      Reply#3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:08 AM EDT
      demmywemmy

      Never heard that turn of phrase "in for the high jump".

      I bet once everything is laid bare, we'll see a pattern that goes back to the late 80s (Princess Di). As soon as the technology was there, criminal minds saw what could be done by hacking into the prominent (and the unfortunate), and charged full steam ahead with all moral compunctions long forgotten.

      • 9 votes
      #3.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:24 AM EDT
      English Oak

      Andy Hayman is being grilled now, he was incharge of the Police investigation that found nothing wrong, then 2 months after he leaves the Police gets a job with The Times

      • 9 votes
      #3.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:42 AM EDT
      English Oak

      5,000 landlines and 4,000 mobile phones have been tampered with by Murdock's papers

      • 9 votes
      #3.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:34 AM EDT
      RaisedByWolves

      They are reporting that the victims of 9/11 had their phones hacked. If he's doing it over there, he's doing it here.

      • 8 votes
      #3.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:52 AM EDT
      English Oak

      the man has no scruples, he loves power and cash

      • 9 votes
      #3.5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:00 AM EDT
      Dangerous Mind

      Who doesn't love power and cash?

      There should be some limits, though.

      • 3 votes
      #3.6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:01 PM EDT
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      fatnat-2056502

       who cares are country is falling apart and people are worried about hacking got to love technology everyone wants it well now you have it suck it up .

      • 1 vote
      Reply#4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:27 AM EDT
      ww-chs-sc

      .

        #4.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:42 AM EDT
        abolish taxes

        yea who cares people cant even spell properly or use punctuation anymore its all going to hell omg omg omg omg omg

        • 1 vote
        #4.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:36 AM EDT
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        ww-chs-sc

        http://www2.fbi.gov/aboutus/faqs/faqsone.htm

          Reply#5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:49 AM EDT
          Better Careful

          Where Murdoch and his gang go, fascism goes with them. His criminals partnered with the conservatives in Great Britain for mutual fun and profit, using corrupt and blatently illegal methods and practices, in the slimiest and sleaziest way. @!$%#ing bunch of criminal lowlifes. All of them.

          I hope this helps to bring down the entire fascist enterprise, worldwide.

          Up with democracy. Down with fascism.

          • 11 votes
          Reply#6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:14 AM EDT
          Mike DurhamDeleted
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          Rixar13

          Rupert Murdoch's enterprise needs to come down, permanently.....

          • 8 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:10 AM EDT
          English Oak

          as they could say on Fox News 'looking out for the cops'

          • 7 votes
          #7.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:21 AM EDT
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          Jeff in Houston

          Ah, yet another one of Satan Murdoch's bastard children. Have to wonder what Fox has been up to. As for the impact on his company, . . . could not happen to a more well-deserving reptile.

          • 10 votes
          Reply#8 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:22 AM EDT
          English Oak

          maybe Glen Beck can get his chalkboards out and explain whats gone wrong

          • 6 votes
          #8.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:27 AM EDT
          abolish taxes

          LOL English Oak, and we all know where that will lead......... SOROS!!!!! omg omg omg lol

          • 5 votes
          #8.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:40 AM EDT
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          Brian-497171

          News Corp needs a dirt nap.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#9 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:49 AM EDT
          multifariousone

          Here's the truth (I'm sure the word "truth" is not understood by Murdoch and his minions) about these pukes....

          As one of his former top executives—once a close aide—told me, “This scandal and all its implications could not have happened anywhere else. Only in Murdoch’s orbit. The hacking at News of the World was done on an industrial scale. More than anyone, Murdoch invented and established this culture in the newsroom, where you do whatever it takes to get the story, take no prisoners, destroy the competition, and the end will justify the means.”

          Is there any doubt that this problem extends throughout the Murdoch "empire"?

          http://www.newsweek.com/2011/07/10/murdoch-s-watergate.html

          • 7 votes
          Reply#10 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:53 AM EDT
          English Oak

          Brit Gov tomorrow will throw out Murdocks bid to buy the whole of BSKYB, just reported on BBC

          • 6 votes
          Reply#11 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:06 AM EDT
          Brian-497171

          Excellent.

          As a parting gift Murdoch should receive a shiny pair of leg irons.

          • 6 votes
          #11.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:23 AM EDT
          multifariousone

          Brit Gov tomorrow will throw out Murdocks bid to buy the whole of BSKYB, just reported on BBC

          Crowds are cheering on both sides of the Atlantic and downunder where he is hated too.

          • 2 votes
          #11.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:06 PM EDT
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          Ben Cartwright

          Its a public corporation that owns many MANY news outlets. This doesn't mean Murdoch or even the execs were involved if they were at all and it did actually happen. Chill out folks. Were talking of a cooperation that has hundreds of thousands of employees.

            Reply#12 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:33 AM EDT
            Jim-553813

            Yes, you are right - but - the corporation sets the climate as to what is expected of its employees. How much does Murdoch value honesty and integrity? Does the corporation have these "values" posted and does it involve it's employees in a truly "fair and balanced" reporting of the news. I think that Murdoch's true values are in power and money and not in truthful reporting.

            • 1 vote
            #12.1 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:41 AM EDT
            Ben Cartwright

            Like all media they give the people what they want if you dont like it you dont have to watch it. My gripe is that the way this article was written it is suggesting some major conspiracy involving NC and Mudoch when that is not the case.

              #12.2 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:47 AM EDT
              Brian-497171

              Were talking of a cooperation that has hundreds of thousands of employees.

              What in the hell does it mean to be a CEO of corporation, then?

              You're the boss. Does the buck not stop at your desk?

              I'm sure Murdoch gets paid like it's his responsibility - just doesn't get the blame. How fricking convenient.

              • 4 votes
              #12.3 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:48 AM EDT
              Ben Cartwright

              You're the boss. Does the buck not stop at your desk?

              Hes not a boss, hes the chairman and CEO of a major corporation. You think he knows what all 200,000 or so of the employees are doing everyday?

              • 1 vote
              #12.4 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:01 PM EDT
              Brian-497171

              Hes not a boss, hes the chairman and CEO of a major corporation. You think he knows what all 200,000 or so of the employees are doing everyday?

              The CEO is stupid defense, got it. If that's the case then he needs to get paid like he's stupid and not in control of anything.

              Mega- Corporations have a grand way of reeking havoc and then making it virtually impossible to find out who is responsible. Oh, and it's never the person at the top, is it Ben?

              • 6 votes
              #12.5 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:20 PM EDT
              Ben Cartwright

              Sometimes it is, if it is here is unknown. And not likely, would Murdoch risk his empire to find out about Browns child illness? Or if Brown bought a porno w/ his credit card? Brown isnt even in office anymore.

                #12.6 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:21 PM EDT
                Brian-497171

                Sometimes it is, if it is here is unknown. And not likely, would Murdoch risk his empire to find out about Browns child illness? Or if Brown bought a porno w/ his credit card? Brown isnt even in office anymore.

                You miss the point. It isn't that Murdoch himself snooped into Brown, the missing child's phone and the many others that are coming to light. What is important is that this was a widespread thorough network of illegal activity with complicity from the government and the police.

                This is most certainly not a one-off or a rogue employee. This was secret News Corp policy.

                If you are at the head of that org, you are responsible.

                • 5 votes
                #12.7 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:45 PM EDT
                Ben Cartwright

                You miss the point, that is still conjecture.

                  #12.8 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:47 PM EDT
                  steve3003

                  Ben Cartwright

                  " Its a public corporation ... "

                  Now there's a contradiction in terms.

                  " ... that owns many MANY news outlets. This doesn't mean Murdoch or even the execs were involved ... "

                  How convenient. Does that mean no "accountability?" An ant farm with a queen ant doesn't allow unlike tenants.

                  It's like saying a hornet's nest shares a hive with mosquitos.

                  You crack me up.

                  • 1 vote
                  #12.9 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:56 PM EDT
                  Ben Cartwright

                  Your bug analogises crack me up.

                  • 1 vote
                  #12.10 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:03 PM EDT
                  steve3003

                  Ben Cartwright

                  " ... the way this article was written it is suggesting some major conspiracy involving NC and Murdoch when that is not the case."

                  Then he will be exhonorated?

                  Sure must suck to be himself "if" in fact, his own "ethical" practices are backfiring in his direction.

                  A saying, "what goes around, comes back around" defines the day. Fortunatly or unfortunately, finally, to his disadvantage.

                  • 3 votes
                  #12.11 - Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:46 PM EDT
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                  Jack's attackDeleted
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                  Donahue

                  Sure but it looks like all the criminals the News of the World used were Metropolitan Police officers!

                  Coverage of this "scandal" has been more egregious then checking someone's voicemail, IMO. It's completely politically and financially driven and the real story should be the amount of corrupt *public* employees but the liberal media is determined to bring down Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, etc. so corrupt officers from the top brass who purposefully punted an investigation into it for fear of their own misdeeds being brought to light to the rank and file officers who ran traces on cell phones for reporters are getting passes. It's disgraceful.

                  I'm less concerned by tabloids - and let's get off the high horses people, news outlets outside of News Corp. owned ones have been just as guilty - sleazily obtaining information than I am about police officers being bought and solid.

                    Reply#15 - Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT
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