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Asian stocks tumble after Wall Street rout

Mon Aug 8, 2011 8:57 PM EDT
world-news, business, world, south-korea, markets, new-zealand, hong-kong
Pamela Sampson, AP Business Writer
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<p>Men watch through windows as the Australian Stock market opens in Sydney, Tuesday, Aug. 9, 2011. The U.S. stock market buckled Monday under the weight of a crisis in Europe and danger of recession at home. (AP Photo/Rick Rycroft)</p>

Men watch through windows as the Australian Stock market opens in Sydney, Tuesday, Aug. 9, 2011. The U.S. stock market buckled Monday under the weight of a crisis in Europe and danger of recession at home. (AP Photo/Rick Rycroft)

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BANGKOK — Asian stocks markets were thrown into a tailspin Tuesday as flustered investors fearing a possible global recession continued to flee stocks. Hong Kong slid 6 percent and South Korea at one point plummeted nearly 10 percent.

Oil prices tumbled to their lowest in almost a year below $79 a barrel on expectations that a slowing global economy could crimp demand for fuel. The dollar was lower against the yen and the euro.

The sell-off, which adds to sharp losses in the past few days, comes after the Dow Jones industrials fell 634.76 points on Monday, the sixth-worst point decline for the Dow in the last 112 years. It was Wall Street's first day of trading after Standard & Poor's downgrade of the U.S. credit rating.

Wall Street appeared headed for further losses Tuesday. Dow futures were off 174 points, or 1.6 percent, at 10,552 and broader S&P 500 futures shed 18.30 points, or 1.7 percent, to 1,093.30.

Michael McCarthy, chief strategist at Sydney-based stockbroker CMC Markets, attributed the market turbulence to fears that the struggling U.S. economy is quickly losing momentum.

"We're clearly in fear territory," McCarthy said. "The major driver here seems to be weakness in the U.S. economy. There are fears that it's starting to stall and if that's the case, the whole global growth scenario could fall over."

Japan's Nikkei 225 index sank 2.3 percent to 8,892.12. Hong Kong's Hang Seng plunged 6 percent to 19,258.51 — the sixth-straight trading day of losses.

Japanese export shares continued to capsize on a strengthening yen, which makes products more expensive overseas. Consumer electronics giant Sharp Corp. dropped 3.7 percent, while Panasonic Corp. lost 2.1 percent.

The country's powerhouse vehicle makers were also battered. Toyota Motor Corp. lost 3.4 percent, while rival Honda Motor Corp. slid 3.3 percent. Nissan Motor Corp. sagged 2.8 percent.

Trading on South Korea's Kospi was briefly suspended after it sank sharply — at one point down 9.7 percent — before paring losses to a 4.8 percent fall to 1,780.33.

Hynix Semiconductor, one of the world's leading memory chip makers, shed 5.5 percent, while Samsung Electronics, the top global manufacturer of flat screen televisions, crumbled 4 percent.

Oil companies were stung by falling crude prices. Hong Kong-listed PetroChina Co., the publicly traded unit of China's biggest oil and gas company, lost 8.8 percent. Sinopec, Asia's biggest oil refiner by volume, lost 8.6 percent.

Bucking the trend was Australia's benchmark S&P/ASX-200 index, which reversed earlier losses to rise 0.2 percent at 3,994.80. Taiwan's TAIEX was 0.1 percent higher.

Jackson Wong, vice president of Tanrich Securities in Hong Kong, said the sell-off was creating opportunities for sophisticated investors to buy at bargain prices. What was unclear, he said, was when those investments might bear fruit.

"It's still very hard to predict how the U.S. market will do," Wong said. "When the dust settles, if the situation doesn't get worse in the U.S. or Europe, the situation will rebound. But the U.S. has to stabilize."

Worries about the U.S. economic recovery have been building since the government said that economic growth was far weaker in the first half of 2011 than economists expected. Intensifying concerns were reports showing that the manufacturing and services industries barely grew in July, although job growth was better than economists expected last month.

Investors are also worried that Italy and Spain could become the next European countries to have trouble repaying their debts. Greece, Ireland and Portugal have already received bailout loans because of Europe's 21-month-old debt crisis.

The fears have pushed investors to shun Spanish and Italian bonds, which have led to higher yields and in even higher borrowing costs for the two countries.

The European Central Bank stepped in Monday and bought billions of euros worth of their bonds. The move helped to lower yields on Spanish and Italian bonds, at least temporarily.

Benchmark oil for September delivery fell $2.63 to $78.66 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

That is the lowest settlement price of the year for crude, but it's still higher than the $71.63 per barrel low of the past 12 months. Oil hit that on Aug. 24 of last year, when a combination of disappointing economic news and abundant supplies drove down prices.

Crude fell $5.57, or 6.4 percent, to settle at $81.31 per barrel on the Nymex on Monday.

In currencies, the dollar weakened to 77.25 yen from 77.70 yen late Monday in New York. The euro rose to $1.4240 from $1.4196.

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mstanley2265

All the markets have dropped, South America, South Africa, Middle East, Allllll of them

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:21 PM EDT
chitownty

This has more to do with fears of a second recession than anything else and despite the downgrade by the incompetents at S& P,a VAST AMOUNT OF THE MONEY THAT WERE IN STOCKS moved to U.S. Treasuries.

    Reply#2 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:35 PM EDT
    mstanley2265

    Chitownty, it's not just 'fear's' unfortunately there are numbers that confirm it. And numbers don't lie. A lot is moving to cash in the bank too, the Treasuries bought will have interest rates pushed to 10 yuear/3% at minimum still a Bad Deal for the US in the long run. Any savings from spending cuts will be lost repaying the interest rate upgrade.

      #2.1 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:49 PM EDT
      chitownty

      Standard and Poor's rating was based on numbers that were TWO TRILLION DOLLARS off.Like I said in a previous post,these are the same people who rated all the junk mortgage paper as A or AA,helping us to the meltdown of 2008.Like I said incompetents.

        #2.2 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:02 AM EDT
        mstanley2265

        Even after they adjusted the $2 trillion, which multiple people have explained, the numbers that were left over Plus the political lack of will to implement a balanced budget was the cause for the Rating going down one notch.

        Still, can't shoot the messenger for the message, the money people have been warning this for a minimum of 6 weeks. IMO that the FAA deal and losing the taxes was more like the last straw with them. S&P isn't the only ratings agency, they were just the first shot across the market. If the others finalize their numbers and come to the same conclusion, ohhhh Katie bar the door!

          #2.3 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:07 AM EDT
          RKB123

          Financial markets of the world are not reacting in this manner due to a miscalculation by S&P. If the downgrade were based on faulty arithmetic the market wouldn't have melted down as it did today, imo. Wall Street traders and market makers didn't run for the exits because someone forgot to carry the 1, they ran because the house is on fire.

            #2.4 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:14 AM EDT
            chitownty

            Financial markets are reacting to fears of another dip of recession.Look at oil and gold.AND much of the money that left stocks went to T-BILLS! So it begs the question,if U.S. credit was so shaky,why? S&P's report isn't worth the paper it's written on,and given their track record,I don't hang my hat on that.In addition,the other raters haven't done what S&P did,at least not yet,and I've heard no indication that they will.As an aside,oil has dropped 10%,wanna bet gas prices don't ?

              #2.5 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 1:46 AM EDT
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              Smith Cassidy

              Anybody believe dumbass Bachmann (and the moron DeMint) still thinks everything would have been just @!$%#ing peachy had we actually failed to increase the debt ceiling?

              • 1 vote
              Reply#3 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:45 PM EDT
              mstanley2265

              Oh yeah, they'd seen their 'audiences' vanish. LOL

                #3.1 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:50 PM EDT
                common sense-457836

                This is what blows my mind. As bad as this, can you imagine if we actually defaulted?

                There's a big difference between a downgrade of the worlds economic superpower and a situation in which it flat out stops paying bills.

                • 1 vote
                #3.2 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:58 PM EDT
                mstanley2265

                When people focus on the narrow issue's they don't see or comprehend the whole situation. To them this whole deal is just about America. They have no concern or concept about the global implications or just don't care. IMO that most Just Don't Care.

                  #3.3 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:01 AM EDT
                  Arkansas Gloria

                  If Obama had his way, he would have just had another debt ceiling increase without any cuts in spending, and without any cap on Federal Spending, and without any amendment to balance our budget. Other nations are implementing this tool, yet Americans still want to spend. When will we ever learn...learn to curb our greed, postpone a want until we SAVED UP FOR IT, when will we tell our government to STOP OVER-DRAFTING OUR BANK CARD, OR CHECKING ACCOUNT. Has anyone out there had to cut up a credit card because your husband or wife WOULDN'T STOP SPENDING THE MONEY?!!! Kept it topped out all the time, or OVERLIMIT? Lots of FEES INVOLVED WITH THAT ONE. So, go ahead...the Republicans said there would be no default- but if Obama had just been handed $4T, that would have been the end of it. THANK GOD THE TEA PARTY CREATED WAVES....that's what OUR CITIZENS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO if our Government gets off-track. Are you a citizen....or a spender?

                    #3.4 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:18 AM EDT
                    mstanley2265

                    Maybe you missed the March Presidential proposed budget, as in $4 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years and with tax reform?

                    Doesn't wash with the piddly amount over ten years the House and Senate agree on finally, with no tax reform. But of course Congress Can't be blamed now can they?

                    • 1 vote
                    #3.5 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:23 AM EDT
                    common sense-457836

                    Gloria,

                    Sovereign governments who control the supply of the currency in which they owe debts are so far removed from household finances, I don't even know where to begin. Besides not being able to run out of something you yourself produce, there are many reasons why government finances are nothing like your own.
                    Government spending boosts economic activity (this is a basic fact agreed on
                    by everyone from Washington to Reagan). Were the government simply collecting taxes and hoarding it they would in effect be removing energy from the economy since those dollars could no longer be circulated among private citizens. This would lead to a cycle of deflation which grinds economic activity to a halt.
                    Instead governments deficit spend, injecting capital into the economy, and when the GDP and tax receipts grow, as long as you don't owe more interest on the loan than you collect (we're not even close) you can maintain that debt indefinitely. Remember, governments don't die, pass on inheritance to children, or any of the other concerns about personal finance which have no bearing here.
                    I really wish people would stop trying to use this analogy because it's basically nonsense and only confuses the conversation.

                    Consider this - Japan's debt is 220% of it's GDP and it still has one of the highest credit ratings in the world.

                    and p.s. If we did have a balanced budget amendment we might all be speaking Japanese right now since there would have been no way for us to fund the war. I'm quite thankful we didn't.

                    • 1 vote
                    #3.6 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 1:23 AM EDT
                    Smith Cassidy

                    Arkansas Gloria
                    If Obama had his way, he would have just had another debt ceiling increase without any cuts in spending, and without any cap on Federal Spending, and without any amendment to balance our budget. Other nations are implementing this tool, yet Americans still want to spend. When will we ever learn...learn to curb our greed, postpone a want until we SAVED UP FOR IT, when will we tell our government to STOP OVER-DRAFTING OUR BANK CARD, OR CHECKING ACCOUNT. Has anyone out there had to cut up a credit card because your husband or wife WOULDN'T STOP SPENDING THE MONEY?!!! Kept it topped out all the time, or OVERLIMIT? Lots of FEES INVOLVED WITH THAT ONE. So, go ahead...the Republicans said there would be no default- but if Obama had just been handed $4T, that would have been the end of it. THANK GOD THE TEA PARTY CREATED WAVES....that's what OUR CITIZENS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO if our Government gets off-track. Are you a citizen....or a spender?

                    You just proved you have no idea what you are talking about.

                      #3.7 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 1:47 AM EDT
                      chitownty

                      Why do people continue to compare government finances with one's personal situation ? It's so stupid.

                      • 2 votes
                      #3.8 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 1:53 AM EDT
                      mstanley2265

                      Because they forget that 50 states plus territories are involved.

                      • 1 vote
                      #3.9 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:37 AM EDT
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                      bobby3053155

                      Does anybody have a plan? This is not good. Companies will begin to fold if this continues too much longer. People are taking their money out of everything includuing banks. Friday is a long way away.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#4 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:38 AM EDT
                      mstanley2265

                      Good question, obviously playing the blame game isn't going to make S&P happy or any other markets. I don't know if Congress when they reconvene would Amend the Budget, but if they did, that would stabilize the situation. Except they don't reconvene until Sept. Though in an Emergency they can because to keep Presidential appointments from being made, they did one of those little Congressional Tricks, so actually they are technically in session.

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                      #4.1 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:44 AM EDT
                      chitownty

                      So we should be callings their sorry asses back to work.

                        #4.2 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 1:54 AM EDT
                        mstanley2265

                        :) Looks like it...

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                        #4.3 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:38 AM EDT
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