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IMF: World economy enters 'dangerous new phase'

Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:02 AM EDT
business, politics, us, united-states, outlook, economic, imf, international-monetary-fund, economic-outlook
Christopher S. Rugaber, AP Economics Writer

FILE - This file photo taken Aug. 31, 2011, shows crowds of job-seekers waiting to enter a job fair at Crenshaw Christian Center in South Los Angeles. Most economists expect growth of between 1.5 percent and 2 percent in the final two quarters. Though an improvement, it wouldn’t be enough to lower the unemployment rate. The rate has been 9 percent or higher in all but two months since the recession officially ended more than two years ago. (AP Photo/Reed Saxon, File)

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WASHINGTON — The world economy has entered a "dangerous new phase," according to the chief economist of the International Monetary Fund. As a result, the international lending organization has sharply downgraded its economic outlook for the United States and Europe through the end of next year.

The IMF expects the U.S. economy to grow just 1.5 percent this year and 1.8 percent in 2012. That's down from its June forecast of 2.5 percent in 2011 and 2.7 percent next year.

To achieve even that still-low level of growth, the U.S. economy would need to expand at a much faster rate in the second half of the year than its 0.7 percent annual pace in the first six months.

Most economists expect growth of between 1.5 percent and 2 percent in the final two quarters. Though an improvement, it wouldn't be enough to lower the unemployment rate. The rate has been 9 percent or higher in all but two months since the recession officially ended more than two years ago.

"The global economy has entered a dangerous new phase," said Olivier Blanchard, the IMF's chief economist. "The recovery has weakened considerably. Strong policies are needed to improve the outlook and reduce the risks."

The IMF has also lowered its outlook for the 17 countries that use the euro. It predicts 1.6 percent growth this year and 1.1 percent next year, down from its June projections of 2 percent and 1.7 percent, respectively.

The gloomier forecast for Europe is based on worries that euro nations won't be able to contain their debt crisis and keep it from destabilizing the region.

"Markets have clearly become more skeptical about the ability of many countries to stabilize their public debt," Blanchard said. "Fear of the unknown is high."

Overall, the IMF predicts global growth of 4 percent for both years. Stronger growth in China, India, Brazil and other developing countries should offset weaker output in the United States and Europe.

Financial turmoil and slow growth are feeding on each other in both the United States and Europe, IMF officials say. Europe's debt crisis is causing banks to reduce lending and hold onto cash. Sharp stock market drops in the United States over the summer have hurt consumer and business confidence and will likely reduce spending. That slows growth, which leads many investors to shift money out of stocks and into safer investments, such as Treasury bonds.

In Europe, slower growth will make it harder for stressed nations to get their debt under control.

U.S. and European policymakers must act more decisively to cut budget deficits, the IMF said.

European banks need to boost their capital buffers more quickly and beyond new minimum levels set to come into force in 2019, the IMF said.

European banks have seen their stocks slide sharply this summer on fears that their exposure to the government debt of shaky countries like Greece could result in big losses.

Having extra capital would bolster confidence in the banking sector and shield Europe's economy from the impact of jitters in financial markets.

The U.S. economy faces longer-lasting problems that go beyond high gas prices and disruptions caused by the Japan crisis, the IMF said.

Employers are adding few jobs and giving out meager pay raises. Many homeowners owe more on their mortgages than their homes are worth. Banks are keeping credit tight.

All those trends are holding back consumer spending. Unemployment is likely to average 9 percent next year, the IMF's report said, echoing a recent estimate by the Obama administration.

President Barack Obama's proposal to cut taxes and spend more on infrastructure should provide much-needed short-term stimulus, the IMF said. But it needs to be paired with a longer-term plan to reduce the deficit over, the report said. The timing of the budget cuts is key, Blanchard said.

Budget cuts "cannot be too fast or it will kill growth," Blanchard said in a statement. "It cannot be too slow or it will kill credibility."

President Obama on Monday proposed more than $3 trillion of tax increases and spending cuts over 10 years. His proposal will be considered by a congressional panel charged with finding $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction this year.

Both Obama's jobs proposal and the tax increases face stiff opposition from Republicans. They oppose any tax increases and have strongly criticized the president's plans.

The 187-member nation fund conducts economic analysis and lends money to countries in financial distress. It will hold its annual meetings with the World Bank later this week in Washington.

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Associated Press Writer Gabriele Steinhauser contributed to this report from Brussels.

© 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Bennie The BurheadDeleted
Marshall James

can anyone say fiat money and fractional reserve banking?

end the fed

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:09 AM EDT
molemanisalive

fiat money and fractional reserve banking. (there, said it! ;) )

The problem is that would be devastating to the NWO and no progressive would ever allow that to happen.

I am with you... End the Fed, discard the UN and the IMF. Put the USA first and fix our problems here and let the other countries deal with their own messes.

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:03 PM EDT
WBOB in Indiana

yup....end the fed...and defund our payments to the UN

  • 7 votes
#2.2 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:03 PM EDT
Marshall James

haha mole

you got me.

  • 4 votes
#2.3 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT
WBOB in Indiana

so mole? you hate the poor and the children too right? Is the right time to call you a "teathug",."repug",. "bagger" etc.......

  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:11 PM EDT
molemanisalive

Nope, don't hate anyone. Just want people to be responsible for themselves and their actions.

  • 3 votes
#2.5 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:20 PM EDT
California Militia

who let you guys in here?

  • 1 vote
#2.6 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT
WBOB in Indiana

oops...forgot my sarcasm tag!

Nope, don't hate anyone...

  • 3 votes
#2.7 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:54 PM EDT
anat80

Who let's you people in here California ? Just because someone has a different opinion they are less worthy, sounds like a typical liberal response to me!!!! He makes one statement and you go and make ignorant accusations? Maybe since you don't like his idea of taking care of America you are a terrorist?

  • 1 vote
#2.8 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT
Marshall James

ANAT80

i have no idea what you are talking about...and dangit...1 was collapsed...had conversation on that...what was the offense?? I missed it somehow.

  • 1 vote
#2.9 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:17 PM EDT
molemanisalive

I didn't see an offense on comment #1, probably gang collapsed by those with dissenting views....

    #2.10 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:12 PM EDT
    Marshall James

    well its deleted now....maybe a rereg or something......a shame it had to erase all the other comments as well.

      #2.11 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:17 PM EDT
      gillanator

      The Creature from Jekyll Island was on the dining room table when I got home. I think I have some reading to do.

        #2.12 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:36 PM EDT
        Marshall James

        lol....you wont finish it in one setting...but it reads easy.

        • 1 vote
        #2.13 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:13 PM EDT
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        garyray-501488

        The right-wing philosophy is profoundly anti-government. In their eyes, the only proper function of government is to serve the wealthy and devise new ways of allowing the well-to-do to further enrich themselves.

        Link here

        • 2 votes
        Reply#3 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:09 AM EDT
        mstanley2265

        China has a 10% GDP growth forecast for 2011, looks like they know how to grow an economy.and they have a Central Bank, one sole bank..:)

          Reply#4 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:33 AM EDT
          Keav

          They also pay many of their workers scraps for the products they make.

          • 2 votes
          #4.1 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:16 PM EDT
          mstanley2265

          China's middle class has grown, so not all of them make 'scraps'.

            #4.2 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:12 PM EDT
            Keav

            Said many, not all.

            • 1 vote
            #4.3 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:34 PM EDT
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            upswing

            The most dangerous thing about the WOrld Economy is the IMF and its ilk (World Bank, WTO, debt ratings agencies etc)

            We need to burn the lot of them down and get back to creating a world of by a nd for human beings, not of by and for the pigs currently running it through international banking scams.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#5 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:35 AM EDT
            determined0a1

            The former IMF said that he "did the mistake" with the maid.

            Charity begins at home - $3,000/suite at our expenses.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#6 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT
            ivorybill

            Corporations don't rule, banks do not rule. insurance companies don't rule, rich do not rule Directly,.....what rules is Greed.....rules real big, it does.......the most worshiped asset on earth. Money takes common sense from people and makes slaves of us as to any institution.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#7 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:02 PM EDT
            Scrimminy Bimminy

            They say consumer demand accounts for the majority of our GDP, and that drives employment rates. I'm afraid to say that I think 9% unemployment is the "new normal". The reason is that we already have too many houses and too many cars and too many commercial properties, etc. Individuals are learning to live within their means and avoid unnecessary purchases. The overexuberant and unsustainable consumption of the past 30 years is gone (at least for the foreseeable future). Which means a lot of the jobs that catered to that consumption are gone too. Americans are buying less "stuff" now. So IMO, the only way to drastically boost employment in the next 5 years will be to rebuild our infrastructure (wind turbines, highways, bridges, sewage systems, electrical grid, etc).

            • 2 votes
            Reply#8 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:20 PM EDT
            freemason9

            They say consumer demand accounts for the majority of our GDP, and that drives employment rates.

            This is an essential component of a capitalist economy. Capitalism feeds upon profits, profits come from sales, sales come from consumption, and comsumption comes from consumers. However, this is upset by your next point:

            I'm afraid to say that I think 9% unemployment is the "new normal".

            When capitalists succeed in reducing wages by bidding down labor (in part through persistent unemployment rates), people have less money to use for consumption. Less consumption means less economic activity. This is a natural component of capitalist systems, and Marx wrote about this many decades ago.

            The reason is that we already have too many houses and too many cars and too many commercial properties, etc. Individuals are learning to live within their means and avoid unnecessary purchases.

            There aren't "too many houses and too many cars." Wages are simply too low for workers to purchase them. And this is a salient point--American workers are productive enough to create all of this property and these consumer goods, but they aren't paid enough for producing them to actually buy the stuff. This should really mean something, shouldn't it?

            The overexuberant and unsustainable consumption of the past 30 years is gone (at least for the foreseeable future).

            It should have been completely sustainable. As I mentioned earlier, productive American workers were good enough to produce all of this stuff. It was the capitalist system that diverted the profits of their labor to oligarchs, leaving the workers with not enough money to purchase the goods they created.

            Which means a lot of the jobs that catered to that consumption are gone too. Americans are buying less "stuff" now.

            This is true, because American workers are not paid enough. The profits go to rich shareholders that do not circulate the cash; they collect it and hoard it for personal wealth and the sense of power.

            So IMO, the only way to drastically boost employment in the next 5 years will be to rebuild our infrastructure (wind turbines, highways, bridges, sewage systems, electrical grid, etc).

            In part, yes. But the system is rotten to the core. The real way to fix this is to tax unearned income such as capital gains and dividend income at very high rates to discourage non-productive sources of income. Additionally, raising marginal tax rates will make fantastically high incomes of $1,000,000+ less appealing for businesses to pay out (one good example of outlandishly high incomes exists in professional sports. The high salaries demanded by professional athletes/celebrities has driven up all entertainment and media costs for consumers.)

            • 2 votes
            Reply#9 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:15 PM EDT
            Pat P11111

            Freemason9

            Well said. Here are some facts that support your entire arguement.

            In 1953 the highest Top Marginal Tax rates were linked to the lowest unemployment rate

            Top Tax Rate 92%

            Unemployment rate 2.9%

            Tax Rates link:

            Unemployment Rate Link:

            The longer term analysis of the data support you also.

            Tax the Rich. Grow the Jobs.

              #9.1 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:05 PM EDT
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              andrew-geoDeleted
              Keav

              I think what we are seeing and have been seeing for the past 5-6 years is just market correction.

              It's absolutely impossible to expect a global economy to constantly grow at the astronomical rates we've seen over the past 2 decades or so. And even with the growth of the economy, it wasn't spread out evenly. The jobs were created in China and India, large populations with governments who made the smart decisions to invest in their people's educations and skill-building, at the expense of the west, who reached a certain level of affluence and decided to live luxuriously. Couple that with a capitalist beast starving for 15% ROI, and you get an outsourced workforce. These new giants have emphasized intelligence and hard work, while we have emphasized being a diva and not hurting our children's feelings.

              Now we are in a situation where we create very little, and due to our recession, there is not as much of a need for services.

              The job situation is very grave, and will only get worse if we don't emphasize investment and job creation. Every job lost or not created affects lots of other jobs.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#11 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:10 PM EDT
              andrew-geoDeleted
              buddym-3045564

              The only nations that the world economy is working for is India, Mexico, and China. Let's go back to the old ways of doing business. Oh, I forgot, all the corporations moved to India, China and Mexico????????????????????

                Reply#13 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:23 PM EDT
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                joel-367258

                The Fed had Trillions to lend to friends , supporters and foreign banks.

                There seems to be lots of money floating around , but right after they print it they give it straight to their corrupt friends , etc.

                "Too big to fail" really means we are too small to matter.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#15 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM EDT
                andrew-geoDeleted
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                River-239955

                Most economists expect growth of between 1.5 percent and 2 percent in the final two quarters.

                They are banking on the holiday season. They are mistaken, yet again.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#17 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:29 PM EDT
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                determined0a1

                And of course, the banks are offering again 0 interest for 12-18 months.

                The kids can bake cookies instead of asking the parents for expensive phones.

                • 3 votes
                #17.2 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:01 PM EDT
                River-239955

                andrew,

                I'd really like to be wrong. Truly.... But I bet $1 I'm not. Here at my house, Halloween is out. Thanksgiving is out. There might be homemade Christmas cards and a few pieces of candy in December....

                • 4 votes
                #17.3 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:18 PM EDT
                andrew-geoDeleted
                River-239955

                That's really sweet, andrew, and thanks. My company will provide big meals if I work on those days, and I usually do. I'm not really sweating it, though. I'll be able to pick up whatever my little heart wishes for and have it on hand if I am at home. If I were inclined, I could spend more on the holidays, but I'm not inclined. Until this country gets its' act together, my household is going to remain in survival mode.

                There was a time that I applied for, and received, minimal assistance, but reaching out was a very ugly experience. Now, instead, I choose to do without. I don't ask anybody for any thing. I don't owe anybody for anything. And I'll keep it that way.

                Thanks again !!
                :)

                • 3 votes
                #17.5 - Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:45 PM EDT
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