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Suspect in Ind. girl's death cared for her grandpa

Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:12 PM EST
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Tom LoBianco, Associated Press
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<p>FILE -- This undated file photo provided by the Allen County Sheriff's Department shows Aliahna Lemmon.  Lemmon, 9, has been found dead, and the neighbor who was watching her before she disappeared was arrested on a murder charge Monday night, Dec. 26, 2011, authorities said.  (AP Photo/Allen County Sheriff's Department/file)</p>

FILE -- This undated file photo provided by the Allen County Sheriff's Department shows Aliahna Lemmon. Lemmon, 9, has been found dead, and the neighbor who was watching her before she disappeared was arrested on a murder charge Monday night, Dec. 26, 2011, authorities said. (AP Photo/Allen County Sheriff's Department/file)

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FORT WAYNE — To assist her dying father, Tarah Souders made a choice: She moved her three young girls to a run-down trailer park in rural Indiana to help take care of him as his lungs rotted from emphysema.

She knew it could be dangerous. The park of about two dozen homes was teeming with convicted sex offenders, with one living at nearly every address. She worried about neighbors with sex offense records who had been helping her father get by, according to trailer park residents. And before she arrived, she even asked her father if her children could be at risk for abuse from two specific men — including a suspect now accused in her daughter's death.

"He said, `No. They will not touch your children. They're doing everything they're supposed to do,'" said Greg Shumaker, one of 15 convicted sex offenders who live at the park and the other man that Souders had inquired about.

Not long after they moved, police say, a horrific tragedy unfolded. Her 9-year-old daughter, Aliahna Lemmon, was brutally killed. Police say 39-year-old Michael Plumadore told investigators that he bludgeoned her to death last week with a brick, then dismembered her and hid her head, hands and feet at her grandfather's trailer before dumping the other remains elsewhere.

Shumaker said Aliahna's family moved there to help take care of 66-year-old James E. "Shorty" Lemmon, who also was a convicted sex offender and died Dec. 3. He said Lemmon was "getting old" and "had trouble breathing."

Shumaker said he introduced Plumadore to Lemmon shortly after Plumadore moved into the trailer park, and Plumadore moved in with Lemmon a few days later. Shumaker said he knew Lemmon because they were both sex offenders and were in jail together.

Sheriff's department spokesman Cpl. Jeremy Tinkel confirmed that Lemmon was a sex offender. Indiana Department of Correction records show he was convicted of child molesting in March 2006.

Paulette Hair, 45, a former manager at the trailer park who lives at a nearby trailer park, said she also knew Lemmon was a sex offender.

"He stayed out of everybody's way," she said. "Shorty couldn't take care of himself very well."

Shumaker said Plumadore briefly moved away, but returned when Souders asked him to care for her father.

A man who answered the door at Souders' home Tuesday afternoon referred all questions to the Allen County sheriff's department. The home was one of only a few at the trailer park — located off an expressway and across from an open field — with signs of children: A small bicycle, play car and car seat sat on the wooden porch connected to a long wooden ramp.

Aliahna and her two younger sisters were staying with Plumadore for about one week because their mother had been sick with the flu.

Richard Patee, 58, whose trailer is next to where Plumadore was living, said he didn't think it was odd that Aliahna's mother had him watching the girls for an extended period.

"They had known each other for somewhere of three to four years, I know that, and he took care of their grandfather," Patee said. "I didn't see any reason to question it at all."

Shumaker said it wasn't unusual for Plumadore to watch Souders' children "because the kids liked him." Souders and Aliahna were listed among nearly 600 friends on a Facebook page listed under Plumadore's name that said he was "Self Employed and Loving It!", and enjoyed fantasy novels.

According to the affidavit, Plumadore told police that after beating Aliahna to death on the front steps of the home in the early morning hours Thursday, he stuffed her body into trash bags and hid her in the freezer. He said he later cut up her body with a hacksaw and stuffed her remains into freezer bags.

The next morning, Plumadore made a trip to a convenience store to buy a cigar, according to surveillance video and The Journal Gazette.

Police said Plumadore told them he had hidden Aliahna's head, feet and hands at the trailer and discarded her other remains at a nearby business. Police obtained a warrant to search the trailer on Monday and found the body parts.

Authorities didn't say Tuesday why Plumadore killed the child, but Sheriff Ken Fries said investigators suspected Plumadore was involved since soon after she was reported missing Friday night because of inconsistencies in his story that the girl had vanished while he went to a store that morning.

"Things that were said in 29 years of doing this that just didn't make sense," Fries said during a Tuesday news conference. "We needed to get him to talk."

A judge ordered Plumadore held without bail or bond at an initial hearing Tuesday, Tinkel said. He has yet to be formally charged in Aliahna's death.

Mike McAlexander, the Allen County chief deputy prosecutor, wouldn't say whether anyone else was suspected of being involved and said "nothing has been ruled out."

"How could you live?" asked Hair. "How could you sit in that trailer, knowing what you did, knowing what's in your household when everybody is out there in the cold and the rain praying to God that she comes home safely and you're sitting there."

A state website shows that 15 registered sex offenders live in the park that numbers about two dozen homes. Self-identified sex offenders living at the trailer park said Tuesday that they were given maps by the Indiana Department of Corrections and a local mission showing them where it was OK to live. The aerial maps show areas legally away from schools and daycare centers and help guide offenders when they are released from prison to new homes.

Plumadore is not on Indiana's registered sex offenders list. He has a criminal record in Florida and North Carolina that includes convictions for trespassing and assault, and an Indiana conviction for forgery.

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Associated Press Writers Tom Davies and Charles Wilson contributed to this story from Indianapolis.

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Infamous1

again..who cares..her grandfather DID NOT KILL HER OR HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:39 PM EST
Perception Dominates Reality

But was the reason Plumadore ever had contact with the children.

And I believe plenty of people care when I child is murdered

  • 12 votes
#1.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:49 PM EST
renee219-2390107

What do you mean who cares? Just because her grandfather didn't do it doesn't make it any less horrible and tragic. Death is too easy for a person like Plumadore he deserves a living hell!

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:16 PM EST
HappyToSeeYa

this gruesome reality is hard for me to comprehend: an adult child puts her children in jeopardy in order to provide care for her elderly, ailing sex-offender status father [why did she believe her father when he said that his grand daughters would be OK?]

now, the mother and remaining daughters need immediate mental health care and I wonder if they will be able to get it under Indiana's reduced state services

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:35 PM EST
Z1P2

From the article:

She knew it could be dangerous. The park of about two dozen homes was teeming with convicted sex offenders, with one living at nearly every address.

Parents who sacrifice the welfare of their kids for, well, anything at all, deserve whatever pain they feel after their kids end up getting hurt from their actions.

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:22 PM EST
vttova

This poor mother is being slaughtered in the quest for sensationalist crap journalism. The grandfather didn't kill the girl. The murderer was not a sex offender. With lines like 'lungs rotting away' the writers of this garbage need some serious moral compass checks.

RIP Angel girl. Love and compassion to Mom from someone who knows the special horror of losing a child. I am so sorry. You did not deserve this, no one does.

  • 10 votes
#1.5 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:22 PM EST
mountainmike-1199289

This is a horrific story of a child that was not protected by AMERICA. Quit the #@#%&#@ blame game here! We need to protect the next innocent child at risk for the same fate. No partisan BS accepted!

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:40 PM EST
realstr8

That's why we need government intervention. These children should have never been exposed to such a horrible environment. The media shy away from rural places like this because it reveals a blight that make inner city projects look inviting. The subhuman who committed this horrific crime should be executed without any legal wranglings holding up the process. Another child's life deprived of existence. RIP Little One!!!

    #1.7 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:57 PM EST
    Pat-#@!&!#@

    The murderer was not a sex offender.

    though Plumadore is not on Indiana's registered sex offenders list. He has a criminal record in Florida and North Carolina that includes convictions for trespassing and assault.

    Gee, that makes me feel better.

    Look, this is a horrific tragedy and I feel bad for the family. Unfortunately the mother made really, really bad choices to move into a nest of sexual predators including her father. She then chose to move her three girls in with the perp when she was ill. She may not have the capacity to make legitimate, day to day choices. Sad.

    • 1 vote
    #1.8 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:28 PM EST
    nicelocuaocneawDeleted
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    Mr.Smith 13

    The grandfather angle is just another way to humanize sex offenders.What,she deserved it because someone who was related to her was also a sex offender?At least 30 percent of sex offenders are guilty without a shadow of a dought.Lets start with those and kill them all!Lets grow up and stop bringing hitler up as if wanting to protect children makes you a nazi.The time to wake up and make some changes is now!

    • 1 vote
    Reply#2 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:56 PM EST
    Geek_on_the_wing

    The grandfather angle is just another way to humanize sex offenders.What,she deserved it because someone who was related to her was also a sex offender?

    That's one of the more bizarre things I've ever read. Do you actually believe that was the point and purpose of the article?

    First of all, sex offenders are human beings. So are murderers, muggers, purse snatchers, arsonists, and so forth. They don't need to be "humanized," as you put it. You can say that they're scumbags, perverts, or whatever other colorful name you like -- and I'd probably agree with you.

    But they're still human, nonetheless -- no matter how reviled and hated they may be.

    The reason I point out the obvious is because it helps to explain why Tarah made her decision to move her and her daughters there. Having a registered sex offender in her family, she saw the other side of the issue -- that sex offenders actually are human beings, some of whom are more dangerous than others. Her own father was one of them. So perhaps she was a little less afraid to be around them than she might otherwise be.

    Tarah did take some precautions, however, one of which was asking her father about some of the men living there. "They're doing everything they're supposed to do," he is reported to have said. What that means, I don't know. I imagine it means they were going to therapy or doing whatever else they were required to do as conditions of their parole.

    But Tarah's intuition was better than Shorty's. Tarah sensed something wrong about Plumadore that Shorty missed. Although Plumadore was apparently one of the few men at the trailer park who wasn't a sex offender, something about him bothered Tarah. Tragically, her instincts were right.

    At least 30 percent of sex offenders are guilty without a shadow of a dought.Lets start with those and kill them all!

    Let's take a look at the idea of capital punishment for sex offenders. Sounds like a good idea to you, huh? The desire for retribution, revenge, and all that are natural human emotions, after all, so why not indulge them?

    Well, because it's an idiotic idea that would get children killed.

    Think about it. If the penalty for molesting a child were the same as the penalty for molesting and murdering that child (they can't kill you twice, after all), wouldn't it make more sense for a molester to kill his victim to reduce the chances of getting caught?

    Yes, yes, I know, the majority of pedophiles don't physically hurt their victims. But some do. Would you be willing to roll the dice if your child's life hung in the balance? Would you be willing to bet your child's life on the kindness, good will, and conscience of a pervert?

    Lets grow up and stop bringing hitler up as if wanting to protect children makes you a nazi.

    No one said you were a Nazi, and I'm all for protecting children. But at this point, any talk of sex offenders is really irrelevant to the case, when you think about it.

    Beyond possibly explaining why Tarah was willing to move there, the fact that Shorty was a sex offender is irrelevant to the whole case. In fact, the fact that there were 15 other sex offenders there is also irrelevant to the case.

    Shorty Lemmon didn't murder Aliahna.

    Sex Offender Greg Shumaker didn't murder Aliahna.

    None of the other registered sex offenders living at the park murdered Aliahna.

    Michael Plumadore, who was not a sex offender, but about whom Tarah had concerns when she first met him, is the man who killed Aliahna.

    Ironically, although none of the sex offenders were involved in Aliahna's death, the sex offender registry in itself may have played a part. Consider this: When Tarah asked Shorty about Plumadore, Shorty must have told her something along the lines of, "Mike's not even a sex offender."

    It's pretty reasonable to assume that one of the biggest reasons why Tarah allowed Plumadore to take care of her daughters is because Plumadore was one of the very few adult males in the park -- maybe the only one, for all we know -- who wasn't a registered sex offender. That gave him instant credibility: "In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king."

    Or to put it more simply, being surrounded by perverts, the fact that Plumadore wasn't one of them (or at least, wasn't on the list) probably gave Tarah a false sense of security, which is another concern I have about the idea of the sex offender registry in general. According to my state's sex offender registry, the majority of new sex offenses are committed by people who have no prior record. To me, that means the fact that someone's not on the list actually means little or nothing in terms of your child's safety.

    The time to wake up and make some changes is now!

    Okay, I'm open to suggestions. What ideas do you have in mind, aside from capital punishment, which probably would only get more children killed?

    Clearly, what we're doing now isn't working too well. On that, you and I agree.

    • 8 votes
    #2.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:48 PM EST
    Xerxes-727854

    This brutal murder cries for the death penalty!

      #2.2 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:53 AM EST
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      krounded

      sick @!$%#ing @!$%#

      • 1 vote
      Reply#3 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:57 PM EST
      sharp101

      Couldn't have worded it better myself.

        #3.1 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:00 AM EST
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        yanussh

        I say we need public executions for these monsters just like the old days, to set an example for future monsters.... and it would be carried out by the families of the victims so there is no discrimination.

        "we always lock the barn doors after the horse is stolen"

        • 3 votes
        Reply#4 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:32 PM EST
        HonestIndy

        "we always lock the barn doors after the horse is stolen"

        due to political correctness we dont even lock the doors. We simply hang a sign that says, Dr. Mr. Horse Aquirer. Please do not aquire the horses in this barn. Thank you. P.S. There are horses next door.

        • 2 votes
        #4.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM EST
        Nebraska RXO Newsline

        Do you really believe public executions in the "old days" really helped prevent montsrous crimes? If you do, you should study history.

        • 2 votes
        #4.2 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:14 AM EST
        yanussh

        Well if you feel like paying taxes for these creeps to stay in jail and watch TV and eat and smoke and enjoy thier lives until the end then there is a problem with people. There has to be an end for these child rapists, molesters and killers there is no justice in the system, they all get paid at the end of the day and don't care what happens that's why lawyers have big mansions and yachts because our tax money is making them very wealthy and the killers just sit in jail and spend the rest of thier lives enjoying what they have left. so yes execution is a detterent and an answer to crime like this.

          #4.3 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:38 PM EST
          Z1P2

          Well if you feel like paying taxes for these creeps to stay in jail and watch TV and eat and smoke and enjoy thier lives until the end then there is a problem with people.

          Unfortunately the sad reality is that it costs less to jail them for the rest of their lives than it does to execute them.

            #4.4 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:13 PM EST
            yanussh

            But it would be the families of the victims, all the state would have to do is hand them over and have a witness from a state agency watch and declare the death and in a controlled environment.

              #4.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:25 PM EST
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              Halifax Oliver

              There are about a hundred things here that were all just wrong. Now that mother will live with the decisions she made and the end result. Poor lady won't easy find peace I'd imagine.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#5 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:37 PM EST
              Shaun-6969

              People are @!$%#ing sick!! Pray for the family and put this POS in the ground!!!

                Reply#6 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:42 PM EST
                leefi

                I'm just glad we don't have gay marriage, IMAGINE how bad that kind of parenting would be!

                • 1 vote
                Reply#7 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:45 PM EST
                A radicial idea

                leefi

                We should administer an intelligence test and a psychological profile of all perceptive parents. Just think leefi if this was the case you never would have been born. This article has nothing in it regarding gay marriage. It is about a woman that made bad choices. At the time they seemed reasonable to her but in the end they were fatal.

                My eldest daughter at 12 was raped by a trusted family friend. I knew this man well for five years. I would trust him to act in my best interest if the need ever arose. I trusted him with money and he even cared for my elderly parents when I needed some time off. He lured my daughter to a motel room and had forcible oral sex with her(Her face and mouth were covered in bruises as a result of his animalism), he raped her, and I was surprised that he did not kill her. He ended up with a sentence of twenty five years. Five years in his incrassation he had a massive stroke. He is now a vegetable in a nursing home. His sentence has been executed fully to my way of accounting.

                After years of counseling and a lot of soul searching with the whole family involved my daughter is coping and has become a beautiful woman inside and out. Child molesters especially repeat offenders should jailed for life. Execution is unwarranted. The crime must fit the punishment (cruel and unusual punishment) and rape does not constitute or warrant the death penalty. I believe that child molesters should be jailed until they die. To find a young girl sexually attractive is a character disorder. These types of people feel the law does not apply to them or the law is hindering their desires. A great reason to keep them locked away for life.

                • 2 votes
                #7.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:41 PM EST
                LunaEclipse1

                I think leefi was just being sarcastic...No matter the tragedies we suffer in life never let them bring us down. If we do then for what reason are we live if we are living at all....This comes from a survivor of many tragedies...

                  #7.2 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:10 PM EST
                  RNDiane

                  Leefi: I know you were making a joke.

                  I agree that all pedophiles need to be locked up forever. You cannot rehab people like this, especially with someone this brutal.

                  I remember the Dodd case. He was a serial pedophile and was finally caught. He was released and went back to victimizing children, but killing them. Dodd begged the state to put him to death because he stated that if he were ever allowed out he would go back to doing the same thing again and he was finally executed.

                  I have taken care of a few sex offenders while working in psychiatry. One man who was released from prison after 22 years who was not able to cope on the outside after his release but could not be sent back to prison because he had served his time. He wanted to go back to prison. Because even though he was in his late 60's when released, he was having a very hard time resisting the urge to reoffend. In prison, there was no temptation. In the outside would there was plenty.

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.3 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:52 PM EST
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                  68GreyFox

                  Poor judgement on the mothers part. This poor woman did'nt no right from wrong. This story should be brought home to all parents with young children. Wake up and think, these "Devils" are out there and its difficult to get protection from them. Be very mindfull of who you trust your children with. This is a Heart breaking story. (sad, sad so sad).

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#8 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:48 PM EST
                  AlKhidr

                  The mother was stupid, plain and simple. If one has to choose between raising small children safely or moving them into a trailer park filled with known sexual offenders in order to take care of a sexual predator father, then the parent who chose the trailer park ought to have her head examined. This woman knowingly put her children at risk with predictable, terrible results. I feel sorry for the poor child who was killed and the other children of this mother, but at minimum the mother ought to be charged with child endangerment.

                    Reply#9 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:18 PM EST
                    JoMan

                    She should have her other children taken from her. She clearly has no normal thought process, common sense or natural instinct to protect her young.

                      #9.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:17 PM EST
                      RNDiane

                      You know, normally I would agree with this but I am reserving judgement about the mother until I know more. We don't know what her alternatives were, what type of hold her father had over her. People can be so abused and beaten down that they cannot make good decisions. I have seen this over and over working in the ER and in psychiatry. There is a lot more to this story i fear and it won't be nice.

                      • 2 votes
                      #9.2 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:54 PM EST
                      Nebraska RXO Newsline

                      That's right. Make rash judgments against a woman who has just had a child murdered in a most brutal and heinous manner, and do so without knowing diddly squat about the full story. Is this really the America we now live in?

                      • 4 votes
                      #9.3 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:11 AM EST
                      AlKhidr

                      If you read the full story, you know she moved into the trailer park with her three girls knowing full well the place was populated by sexual predators!

                      • 1 vote
                      #9.4 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:30 AM EST
                      Nebraska RXO Newsline

                      So, what? None of the people labeled as a sex predator had anything to do with this precious child's death.

                      • 1 vote
                      #9.5 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:45 AM EST
                      Geek_on_the_wing

                      If you read the full story, you know she moved into the trailer park with her three girls knowing full well the place was populated by sexual predators!

                      The whole world is populated by sex offenders. They live everywhere we do, ride the same buses and trains, eat at the same fast-food joints, but their clothes at the same Wal-Marts, and so forth. So what's your point?

                      Michael Plumadore has admitted to Aliahna's murder. There is no need to try to blame it on Tarah, Shorty, or any of the sex offenders living in the trailer park. Michael Plumadore was the murderer.

                      The obsession with sex offenders throughout this story, both here and in the new media, is getting almost creepy. It's almost as if people are hoping for one of the sex offenders to be implicated, for whatever bizarre reason.

                      • 3 votes
                      #9.6 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:37 AM EST
                      JoMan

                      That's right. Make rash judgments against a woman who has just had a child murdered

                      Ok, I will. Especially when the mother moved into that place to take care of her sexual predator father, in a trailer park known for housing sexual predator criminals. This is a no-brainer. The mother is clueless and most likely abused her whole life and that doesn't remove blame one iota. If she experienced it, she should be doubly understanding and smart about the dangers.

                      AND wow! Look at the comments here supporting the mother for this horrible decision and justifying sexual predators in our communities. Looks like the pedophile/sexual deviant club is on this thread supporting one another.

                        #9.7 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:00 PM EST
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                        Nina Fox

                        39-year-old Michael Plumadore told investigators that he bludgeoned her to death with a brick, then dismembered her and hid her head, hands and feet at her grandfather's trailer before dumping the other remains elsewhere.

                        A 9 year old child was brutally murdered, how tragic. I just cannot imagine the last memories of that child and her terror…. It seems a brutal murder, not sex offense unless they did not check for that… and hoping they did. If there is absolute DNA evidence of this murder like Blood DNA as I am sure she might have tried to scratch him in protecting her little body, then his life is of no value to mankind. The mother will suffer for the rest of her life in making this faithful decision. I would assume the grandfather also feels guilty. Tragic for everyone...

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#10 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:25 PM EST
                        JAVE

                        They should lock everyone in their trailers and burn the whole place down.

                          Reply#11 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:37 PM EST
                          pamomof2

                          If any perv "ever" touched one of my kids....he would never make it to trial and noone would ever find them. I believe in an eye for an eye. He does not deserve a fair trial, he doesn't deserve an attorney to defend him, he does not deserve to live in prison at our expense....he doesn't deserve to live. None of his kind deserve to live. They should be put to death the way they killed their innocent little victims.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#12 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:51 PM EST
                          Nebraska RXO Newsline

                          You believe in an eye for an eye? Is this a Biblical view? If so, you are ignoring the fact that Jesus clearly did not believe in an eye for an eye. Since Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, what He says goes.

                          • 2 votes
                          #12.1 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:09 AM EST
                          A radicial idea

                          This man should be charged with capital murder. Not because of the rape but because he killed his victim. Had he not killed her death penalty is not appropriate. His crimes ended with murder so the state should seek the death penalty.
                          Had he left her alive, capital punishment would be cruel and unusual punishment. My daughter's rapists committed forcible oral sex and the he raped her. After he completed his crimes and before I called the police I went to his house with my 357 Colt python and my K-Bar. My plan was to shoot him then decapitate him. When I looked him in the eyes I realized this piece of trash was not worth me going to prison. So I left him alive. I contacted the police and went through the channels to have him prosecuted. This was one of the best decisions I have ever made. We prosecuted him he got 25 years without parole. One his fifth year of incarceration he had a massive stroke and now he is a vegetable in a nursing home. His brains are permanently scrabbled and by the way I figure it his debt to my daughter, her friends, our family, and society are paid in full. I am an atheist so I do not believe in heaven or hell but he is suffering and in some twisted way he IS suffering beyond what the judge ruled. I enjoy the thought of the way he is serving his sentence.

                          • 1 vote
                          #12.2 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:18 PM EST
                          Geek_on_the_wing

                          This man should be charged with capital murder. Not because of the rape but because he killed his victim. Had he not killed her death penalty is not appropriate. His crimes ended with murder so the state should seek the death penalty.

                          What rape?

                          • 2 votes
                          #12.3 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:46 PM EST
                          Halifax Oliver

                          Yeah I kind of thought this might get less sensational, not more.

                            #12.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:22 AM EST
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                            landspirit

                            Victims of sexual abuse often take care of their abuser later in life.  I think it has to do with being unable to pull away from the abuser and cut ties, especially if the abuser is family.  So the daughter was likely herself abused by him and she could not put up the appropriate boundaries to keep her children safe.  

                            I was so saddened by this story.  I hope the future brings something better for the other children.  This little girl did not have much of a chance at life, yet she had the most beautiful smile.  If she was suffering from PTSD, she may have been abused by her grandfather too. 

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#13 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:54 PM EST
                            RNDiane

                            I would bet the daughter was a victim of sexual abuse by her father.

                              #13.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:42 PM EST
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                              68GreyFox

                              AIKhidr, JoMan and Jave. " There but by the Grace of God goes you." It might dawn upon you to show compasion for this family in this most darkest hour of need. Your unsympathetic remarks are despicable. I'll bet you will be the first ones to show up at some ones Church on Sunday mourning. The Devil loves the way you think. (sad).

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                              Reply#14 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:05 PM EST
                              JAVE

                              " There but by the Grace of God goes you."

                              The Good Lord didn't make me a genius. He did bless me with the insight that moving my cute little daughters into a community where the vast majority of the population are sex offenders might be a bad idea. I also did not condemn the mother for her choices. Depending on her father's crimes his judgement could seem reasonable to the daughter. Dad child molesting the 17 year old is different then the 7 year old. If dad never molested her she might of thought he was innocent.

                              Okay, I'll allow the innocent people to ride out of town in a Mini Cooper with the back seat empty before it is burned.

                              I'll bet you will be the first ones to show up at some ones Church on Sunday mourning. The Devil loves the way you think. (sad).

                              I'm not a devout guy. I sin many a week by not going to Mass. I concern myself more with the physical world. What God and the Devil wish is beyond my ability. Best I can reckon, the Devil enjoys a 9 year old being beaten to death with a brick and chopped up by one of the more respected members of this community.

                              I wouldn't really give them the napalm. I think these type of communities are a good thing. Better these folk are in one place then scattered unknown in our world. The community also has to be reasonable with their judgement call on who lives in Molesterville.

                              Sex offender is very wide ranging. From two college kids having sex in the park, the high schooler Sexting, the 20, 30, 40 year old man having sex with the girl 6 months underage. A man doing that with a boy. A teacher having sex with her students; high school, middle school, elementary school, nursery school. The public jerkoff clown, the flasher, the dirty caller/texter. The rapist and the pimp.

                              They're all sex offenders. Some should live in Pervertville others not.

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                              #14.1 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:57 PM EST
                              AlKhidr

                              As a matter of fact, Greyfox, there DID go I and my family as I was raised in a household where my father repeatedly sexually molested three of my four sisters. Moreover, my brother was molested by a Catholic priest, a personal friend of my father. However, my siblings and I had the sense not to intentionally put the next generation through what we had gone through. When I recognized the signs of sexual abuse in two of my nieces at ages 6 and 7, I promptly told my sister (who was working two jobs and had not spotted the signs in her "house" husband), she called the police, got him removed from the house and then divorced. Fortunately, he was forced to get counseling where he not only admitted the sexual abuse but that he himself had been sexually abused. On my previous job at an institute for teaching kids, I was able to get a teacher fired (unfortunately not jailed) when other teachers reported to me that he constantly bragged about having sex with under-aged girls. He admitted this "off the record," but I reported it to his boss who quickly fired him. I understand the problem well enough to reserve my compassion for the killed little girl and her sisters. When you've been in the snake den, you'd be a fool to return, and vile to bring a child there.

                                #14.2 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:46 AM EST
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                                shepherd0886

                                This little girl's death was truely barbaric and brutal and she did not deserve to die like that. However one thing that bothers me about this whole thing is why her mother would even consider putting her children at risk in such an environment in the first place? It is true that she bore some responsibility and owed some consideration for her father in his situation but, given the same circumstances, I think that most people would have simply said no to sharing his living arrangements and perhaps offered to help him move to a safer place.

                                My own maternal grandfather brutalized my grandmother and my mother and aunts until my grandmother had enough and kicked him out. She, my mother, and my aunts did what they could to help him when his health began to fail but none of them offered to move in with him or even allow him into their homes. As she put it she would not permit him and his alcoholism to pose a threat to her kids or her grand kids. Her priority was to protect the young just as the beasts of the wild do.

                                Another thing that puzzles me is that I know there have always been those who are sexual misfits but it seems almost as though they are becoming increasingly prevalent in our society. So much so that they are showing up in high blown positions and even in elected offices across the country. I attribute this to greater public awareness to some extent and to more prominent reporting of the cases but it just seems that there are so many more of them than there used to be. I wonder if anyone has ever made any kind of a study of this that compared our own past with our present and perhaps our present with the present in other countries? That might just prove to be interesting and perhaps might even shed some light on how better to deal with this problem.

                                I have often wondered about whether or not sexual frustration could be partly to blame for some people acting out sexually. Here in this country we have always treated sexuality as a moral issue rather than a human instinct. When an instinct is stifled and not permitted to occur naturally many humans resort to some pretty horrific things. For example we eat instinctively for our preservation and when starved we can and have resorted to cannibalism.

                                Our sexual instincts are meant by nature as a preservation measure for our species and it is stronger in some than in others. Those who have achieved positions of power are often very sexually aggressive and have a high incidence of infidelity and it is true of both genders. Now rape, for example, has been pretty well defined as more an act of rage than a sexual act but engaging in apparent consensual sexual activity with a minor is a different matter. Acting out outside of your marriage vows is also a totally different situation. All of these are considered a kind of sexual deviance but in point of fact they are nothing more than a biological instinct for many of us.

                                As a result we treat sexual issues much the same way that we treat drug addiction issues and just stick people in prison and put a socially stigmatic tag on them of "Sex Offender" or "Junkie." While this may temporarily address the problem it does not resolve the original problem and it can and will come back to haunt our society as our newspapers tell us. The headline of "Released Sex Offender Offends Again" is not all that uncommon here in America just like repeat drug use offenders. At some point one must begin to consider the possibility that we are doing something wrong here.

                                It is time that we re-evaluate some of our approaches to our social problems and change the ones that are clearly not working as they were meant to. There are a host of other countries who have similar social issues and they may have found better ways of dealing with these problems. If so we might want to consider adopting their methods. Just sayin.'

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                                Reply#15 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:37 PM EST
                                RNDiane

                                The news first reported that the man who has admitted to killing this child was not a sex offender. So it has apparently turned out that he was.

                                I feel very badly for the mother of this child for a number of reasons. It sounds like she did not have a support system for herself and when she became ill, there may have been no one else to care for the children but perhaps we will learn more later. There may be more to that story.

                                It appears this is a low income area and I would suspect it may be one of only a few locations that is willing to accept a sex offender to live there. That may be why that is such a large concentration of offenders in that area. The mother made a very bad decision to move her children into that area given the fact that she was aware that sex offenders were living there, including her own father. However, I have to say that sex offenders are everywhere and you can't get away from them.

                                In this little upscale community where we live, just outside Seattle, there are at least 10 sex offenders in the neighborhood. I wonder how many people check this type of thing before the purchase a home in a community? I bet that most don't and the information is readily accessible on line.

                                This is a very extreme crime for a first murder. Makes me wonder if he has done this kind of thing before and just did not get caught. I guess we will have to wait and see.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#16 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:41 PM EST
                                Nebraska RXO Newsline

                                What story are you reading? There is nothing in this story to indicate that the alleged perpetrator (yes, he is still legally "alleged" to have committed the crime, even if he has admitted to it, until found guilty in a court of law) is a sex offender, nor that he committed a sex crime in the commission of this heinous killing of a precious child.

                                • 1 vote
                                #16.1 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:06 AM EST
                                Geek_on_the_wing

                                @RNDiane

                                Did you even bother reading the article?

                                I'm sorry, but almost everything you said contradicts what the article stated. For example:

                                The news first reported that the man who has admitted to killing this child was not a sex offender. So it has apparently turned out that he was.

                                Really? Where has this been reported? The police say that he wasn't. Read the article.

                                I feel very badly for the mother of this child for a number of reasons. It sounds like she did not have a support system for herself and when she became ill, there may have been no one else to care for the children but perhaps we will learn more later. There may be more to that story.

                                Plumadore was a trusted neighbor and friend who frequently babysat for the children. They had known each other for years. Read the article.

                                It appears this is a low income area and I would suspect it may be one of only a few locations that is willing to accept a sex offender to live there. That may be why that is such a large concentration of offenders in that area.

                                "Willing to accept?" You're kidding, right? The large concentration of sex offenders was the result of laws governing where they're allowed to live. They were given maps by the Department of Corrections. Read the article.

                                In this little upscale community where we live, just outside Seattle, there are at least 10 sex offenders in the neighborhood.

                                I guess that means you were "willing to accept" them. Mighty open-minded of you.

                                I wonder how many people check this type of thing before the purchase a home in a community? I bet that most don't and the information is readily accessible on line.

                                Or maybe they're grown-up enough to understand that there's no such place as Utopia, so they are "willing to accept" that released sex offenders have to live somewhere.

                                This is a very extreme crime for a first murder.

                                Is there such a thing as a murder that's not extreme? I mean, there's no such thing as being only moderately dead.

                                Makes me wonder if he has done this kind of thing before and just did not get caught. I guess we will have to wait and see.

                                I hope you're not a psych nurse...

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                                #16.2 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:26 AM EST
                                JAVE

                                Makes me wonder if he has done this kind of thing before and just did not get caught.

                                My guess is that he killed the kid because she was annoying and misbehaving. If it was a sex crime it would of been though out better. It seems a crime of anger and less a cover up type of crime from what I have read in the media.

                                My guess is bad tempered dude killing the annoying kid more then psycho molester raping and killing.

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                                #16.3 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:38 AM EST
                                JAVE

                                Is there such a thing as a murder that's not extreme?

                                Yes. There is a big difference between taking a brick and bashing the head in of the guy that owes you money or the wife that you caught in bed with another man and doing the Exact same thing to the 9 year old girl that you are babysitting.

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                                #16.4 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:49 AM EST
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                                Rick -4834244

                                If they undoubtedly have the killer. Then do a televised torture killing of the murderer. Sure there probably is studies that suggest some humans would get turned on. But I'll bet many more humans will fall in line and not succumb to such heinous crimes. A strong message needs to be sent for the worst crimes as soon as they are committed. Like the ass who walked up and shot the political lady last year... what are they waiting for? Everybody saw it! He should get the same! A little eye for an eye would probably reduce our tax burdens too! I say send a message for the obvious no doubt crimes.   

                                By the way, putting your children in a den of lions and telling them the lions have already eaten, may not be as comfortable as entrusting them children to other scenarios.. you pick.  

                                So what is the murderer doing in a place like that anyway? Never been caught before? Just hanging with buddies? Or none of that? Should have known about the neighbors??

                                The fact that there were so many offenders nearby shouldn't have any bearing on this case at all, right? Not! All of those humans lives were certainly in a dance of sorts. The comings and goings of all were most likely noticed by all. Sure they had privacy. But much of their lifestyles are on display... Gosh how far apart are those trailers anyway? Their lives are intertwined to some extent. I'm just saying, stuff rubs from one human to the other.

                                I do feel terribly sorry for mom and daughter. These sort of things should not happen to anyone. Both were trying to do good for another. It is tragic and the perp should pay. And pay now... Not down the road after pleading insanity.. I don't want my tax money feeding an obvious criminal!! Send a message people. Lets get this done. Make an impact on heinous crimes when the criminal is obvious.

                                  Reply#17 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:50 PM EST
                                  lambnlions

                                  One plus One has always been Two. The facts were, yet they were ignored and the only result ensued. I can hear all the left reaching far left, and the right far right, on the matter. The real issue is, another kid's dead and may God watch over her soul, and show her a better day, when the time come. Jails the right place for that perp., they'll rip em a new arse, then off em.

                                    Reply#18 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:02 PM EST
                                    rational thought-3748544

                                    Just when I come to believe we should do away with the death penalty, a horrific crime like this is perpetrated.

                                      Reply#19 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:46 PM EST
                                      Nebraska RXO Newsline

                                      Plumadore has no known record of sex offenses. Plumadore is not listed on any sex offender registry. No one but Plumadore appears to be suspected or implicated in any way in the horrific death of this precious child. Therefore, the details regarding the grandfather's status as an ex-sex offender is irrelevant to the story (not to mention the fact that he was already dead before this tragedy occured). The fact that there are any others on the registry living anywhere, regardless of how close or how many, is also irrelevant to this story. There is no indication anyone but Plumadore, who is not a registered sex offender, and who is thus far not even alleged to have committed a sex crime in connection with this tragedy, had anything to do with this. It is irresponsible to report facts that are not pertinent to the case, and should cease immediately.

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                                      Reply#20 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:02 AM EST
                                      drenee2011

                                      We have all heard about these horrible incidents involving children but this one literally made me nauseous reading it. I can not understand (nor do I want to) how a grown man could take this kind of sick violence out on a small innocent child. Hopefully this POS will not be kept in seclusion the other prisoners would love to get their hands on this monster. I'am sure the mother is devastated beyond words but there are ALOT of other issues here. I have always been a very non-judgmental person but I sincerely hope she does not still have custody of her other children. She knowingly hung out with criminals, she knowingly moved her young girls into a community with sex offenders, she knowingly let her children live with her own father who is a sex offender. As far as I'am concerned she should be charged with child endangerment for knowingly having her children in an unsafe environment. As far as the POS why waste our tax dollars on a trial he already admitted to the crime, hopefully he will get the death penalty.

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                                      Reply#21 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:08 AM EST
                                      VIVA-796465

                                      people don't have common sense............

                                      i wouldn't put my children in any kind of danger for my parents

                                      bad judgment............

                                        Reply#22 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:07 AM EST
                                        Ed-2022915

                                        When I was in collage I did a paper about sex crimes and through a lot of research it came out that 99.9% of all males have committed some sort of sex crime that if was know they would be deemed a sex offender. It is a fact that the rapist is the most likely to offend again, and it is not about sex at all it is about power over their victims. Most child sex offenders happen within families, most want to believe it is Chester the molester down the street that offends the most but it isnt, it is father, brother uncle or even mother that commit these crimes the most.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#23 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:12 AM EST
                                        Writersview

                                        This is another horrible death for an innocent child that can be considered a product of very poor peace and order situation in the place. This is a manifestation that the obligation of the State to protect and secure its people is far fetch.

                                        Indeed, the writer was able to demonstrate the scenario effectively, touching the feelings of the readers.

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                                        Reply#24 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:30 AM EST
                                        RNDiane

                                        Dear Geek on the wing:

                                        I did misread the first part of the article. Sorry for my mistake.

                                        The owner of that trailer park had to agree to accept people with this type of criminal history into that location/ rental property (I am making an assumption that the trailer park is rental property). I am also making an assumption that as a property owner, he/ she is conducting a background check on people before they are allowed to live there. Or I could be wrong and it is just coincidence that all these sex offenders are living in that one trailer park. I am not saying that the community goes out as a whole and says "give us your sex offenders". I was not clear in what I wrote.

                                        In my statement regarding the extreme nature of the crime, I do understand that dead is dead. But there IS a difference between just walking up and shooting someone verses beating and dismembering them. I have seen the results of murder in the ER many times in various forms. Brutal murders. And I can tell you that seeing someone who has been tortured to death like a child who has been a victim of serial abuse or an elderly person who has been beaten almost to death with a hammer verses some guy who gets shot in the chest over a six pack.. trust me, there is a difference. And yes I have worked as a psych nurse.

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                                        Reply#25 - Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:52 AM EST
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