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Unemployment claims rise after steady declines

Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:40 AM EST
business, politics, us, benefits, unemployment-benefits
Christopher S. Rugaber, AP Economics Writer
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<p>In this Dec. 14, 2011 photo, a line worker moves an engine on the assembly line for a Ford Focus at the Ford Michigan Assembly plant in Wayne, Mich. The number of people seeking unemployment benefits rose for the first time in a month, a week after applications fell to their lowest level in three and a half years. But the monthly average of applications fell to the lowest level since June 2008.  (AP Photo/Paul Sancya)</p>

In this Dec. 14, 2011 photo, a line worker moves an engine on the assembly line for a Ford Focus at the Ford Michigan Assembly plant in Wayne, Mich. The number of people seeking unemployment benefits rose for the first time in a month, a week after applications fell to their lowest level in three and a half years. But the monthly average of applications fell to the lowest level since June 2008. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya)

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WASHINGTON — The number of people seeking unemployment benefits rose last week after three weeks of decline.

Even with the gain, applications remained at a level consistent with modest hiring. And the broader trend over the past month suggests job growth could pick up further in the new year.

Weekly applications increased by 15,000 to a seasonally adjusted 381,000, the Labor Department said Thursday.

The four-week average, a less volatile measure, dropped for the fourth straight week to 375,000. That's the lowest level since June 2008.

"Despite the rise in the weekly claims data, the longer-term trend ... suggests that the recovery in the labor market is maintaining its momentum," said Michael Gapen, an economist at Barclays Capital, in a note to clients.

Applications generally must fall below 375,000 — consistently — to signal that hiring is strong enough to reduce the unemployment rate.

While layoffs have fallen sharply since the recession officially ended two and a half years ago, many companies have been slow to add jobs.

Economists caution that the figures can be volatile around the holidays. The data for seven states, including California and Virginia, were estimated because of the Monday holiday, a Labor Department spokesman said. Those estimates have in the past proven reliable, the spokesman said, and haven't required major revision.

Hiring has improved in recent months. Employers have added an average of 143,000 net jobs a month from September through November. That's almost double the average for the previous three months.

Next year should be even better. A survey of 36 economists by the Associated Press this month found that they expect the economy will generate an average of about 175,000 jobs per month in 2012.

More small businesses plan to hire than at any time in three years, a trade group said earlier this month. And a separate private-sector survey found more companies are planning to add workers in the first quarter of next year than at any time since 2008.

In November, the unemployment rate fell to 8.6 percent from 9 percent. Still, about half that decline occurred because many of the unemployed gave up looking for work. When people stop looking for a job, they're no longer counted as unemployed.

The pickup in hiring reflects some modest improvement in the economy. Growth will likely top 3 percent at an annual rate in the final three months of this year, economists expect. That would be better than the 1.8 percent growth in the July-September quarter.

Europe is almost certain to fall into recession because of its financial troubles. And without more jobs and higher incomes, consumers may have to cut back on spending. Both could drag on growth next year.

Congress removed one potential threat last week when it agreed to extend a payroll tax cut and to keep emergency unemployment benefits for two additional months. Both programs were scheduled to expire at the end of this month. Economists worried that ending the tax break and the extended unemployment benefits program would have left Americans with less money to spend.

About 7.2 million people are receiving benefits, as of the week ending Dec. 10, the latest data available. That's an increase of about 80,000 from the previous week.

That figure includes about 3.5 million laid-off workers that are receiving benefits under an extended benefits program put in place during the recession.

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fronco

I bet tea party radicals are happy about people being unemployed and not lifting a finger to help out, this is what tea party is folks. dangerous and evil. can any honest American say that tea party members did a good deed for the American poor or middle class. JUST NAME ONE, besides 4 abortion bills that were put forth and failed in the senate, over 900 days they rule the house this tea party and no improvement on jobs they promised;; not one.

  • 4 votes
#1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:29 AM EST
mitch j

redistributionist drivel. liberalism caused the recession.

the House members we sent were only the first wave. soon we will make adjustments in the Senate, and begin restoring limits on the Executive. the Republic will be saved.

your welcome

TEA

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:53 AM EST
Patriot 8888

No surprise. The Holiday boost in hiring is over. Let's brace ourselves for January.

BO has successfully put the US on the greatest downward spiral in history. Temporary gains are being offset by long-term decline.

  • 10 votes
#1.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:57 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

People caught up in the moment-to-moment financial necessities of now probably don't realize that politicians and their corporate masters are so intent on making Presidient Obama a one term president that those politicians and corporations are willing to sacrifice our economic well being.

I really do not understand why there are people in the ever decreasing middle class who think that they have more in common with the 1% instead of the 99% to which they belong and are trampled by so-called 'job creators' who are benefiting the most from politicians' actions.

Politicians and corporate 'job creators' to the unemployed: STFU, take a bath and accept a Texas miracle minimum wage or less with no benefits job.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:02 AM EST
GaryColumbus

Bullsh1t. Reagan, Bush and dumba$$ Republican trickle down economics caused the recessionS. The Depression and every single recession our country has ever had was because of Republican political philosophy. And your supposed elected 2.0 W Bush was the cause of the downward spiral. Y'all can deny that all you want but it is still in the history books for all who don't have their heads up their a$$ to see!

And you smell !!!

If y'all think unemployment numbers are bad now wait until Sears and Kmart close all those stores.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:07 AM EST
mitch j

People who deny financial necessities of now probably don't realize that politicians and their corporate masters are so intent on making Presidient Obama a king that those politicians and corporations are willing to sacrifice our economic well being, our children, and the Republic.

I really do not understand why there are people in the ever increasing lower class, and those who work for the government who think that they have more in common with the 99% instead of the 45% to which they belong and are trampled by so-called 'compassionate' liberals who are benefiting the most from politicians' actions.

Politicians and corporate liberal 'elite' to the private sector employed, law abiding, tax paying: STFU, for you are a racist, hostage taker who wants to lynch minorities. give all your paycheck to the government, because they are so much smarter than you are when it comes to how to spend it. or, more traditionally: from each according to ability, to each according to need.

TEA

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:22 AM EST
AmusedinVa

over 900 days they rule the house this tea party and no improvement on jobs they promised;; not one.

Twenty eight not a couple but 28 jobs bills were passed in that House and not one cleared the Reid Senate. The House can't fix things by themselves when the Senate blocks every single bill they pass. Even the bills that Obama himself supported were stopped by Reid. Put the blame where it belongs on the old dinosaur in the Senate who still thinks this is 1950 and won't let the Congress do anything to make improvements.

  • 12 votes
#1.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:34 AM EST
Arieus

duh! A seasonal job is just that, seasonal. The hired help is no longer needed until next Xmas.

  • 9 votes
#1.7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:36 AM EST
1Hiram

...Obama....focused like a laser on jobs and the economy since day one.......and now its the still the GOPs fault. He is showing off the results of his fair to poor economic grade given to him.

  • 10 votes
#1.8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:00 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

so, those companies sitting on.money and are risk adverse to hiring are not part of the problem, huh?

    #1.9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:12 AM EST
    HappyToSeeYa

    mitch, you did not bother to use quotes in your response --- in any case, private and public sector jobs are at risk and public sector employees are tax payers who are law abiding

    you do not ha e the nerve to present your response to police, fire, education, and public health employees

      #1.10 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:20 AM EST
      AmusedinVa

      so, those companies sitting on.money and are risk adverse to hiring are not part of the problem, huh?

      Two problems with the way your looking at things. First based on the comment in 1.3 the vast majority of the job creators are in that 99% not the 1% that is the new catch phrase nowadays.

      Second your obviously not paying any attention to the fact that businesses unlike the US government must pay for things with the money they have and can't write themselves unlimited loans at will. They set aside funds to cover operations for 5 to 10 year spans to ensure their survival. Not only that but how can any company actually plan for the future when on a daily basis the rhetoric in DC changes and nobody knows what the rules will be next week that they have to operate by.

      Say for instance company XYZ has 2000 employees and provides employer health insurance. They have to start setting aside money now and planning for the 2014 implementation of the HCR. They also have to try and figure out how much their quarterly payments to IRS will be based on these pathetic 2 and 3 month extensions of various tax bills. And they have to take into account how every new regulation is going to affect them and what compliance costs and then set aside appropriate funds to cover that. Add to all that which is guesswork mainly, because the government won't get it's own act straight, that they still have to have reserves for day to day operating expenses in case sales are weak or there is unexpected circumstances like a fire at a factory or a disruption of their business by weather and so on.

      Take all that into account then decide if these companies "sitting" on cash reserves is something bad or are they the ones who are actually being prudent and trying to keep the people who still do have jobs working.

      • 5 votes
      #1.11 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:32 AM EST
      ABO Warrior

      The President, who promised that he was focused like a laser on jobs and would not leave Washington until every American who wanted a job had a job, is currently thinking about job creation with every swing of his golf club in Hawaii.

      The Democrats are so desperate to claim they are creating jobs that they are defending Nancy Pelosi's $10,000 a night hotel bill by saying that she is out creating jobs.

      Deperate.

      • 6 votes
      #1.12 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:02 PM EST
      Confer

      Running a business is a misunderstood concept by the majority of those who complain the loudest.

      A business owner who had to borrow the money to open the doors to customers and those who are employed in that business must make money to stay in business. Those who have the ability to survive must spend far more than an eight hour workday for years with allot of heartburn.

      The most critical (and unrewarding) part of business ownership, I submit is the on-going headache of managing the workforce.

      Each and every time a "bad" economy is apparent, an immediate response from management is to reduce expenses and reduce the workforce. The most competent workers and those who come to work, to work, will have a job to go to as long as the business is in operation.

      This recession has allot to do with learning how to do more with less. Mose good businesses are not likely to hire unless they simply need "warm bodies".

      • 2 votes
      #1.13 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:10 PM EST
      tony1234

      While layoffs have fallen sharply since the recession officially ended two and a half years ago

      If the recession ended in 2008, I never noticed it. "Officially" I don't see any improvement.

      • 2 votes
      #1.14 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:38 PM EST
      demo scout

      It's amazing how right wing ideologues can simply shut their eyes to the facts and pretend to be on the moral and intellectual high ground. We have the facts in front of us.

      Obama came into office after the financial melt down occurred under Bush. Absolute truth and undeniable.

      The crash was caused by fraudulent and greedy conduct on Wall Street, in the banking, mortgage, insurance, and financial rating institutions, and by non-regulation under Republican regimes.

      Bush lost more jobs than Obama did. Undeniable statistic.

      There has been steady jobs growth since summer of 2010 under Obama. Unemployment is falling under Obama.

      The income gap in this country accelerated under every Republican president since Reagan and yet the Republicans refuse to do anything to make it more fair.

      Republican Senators and Congressmen take an oath to uphold the Constitution which puts the responsibility to fund the government by taxation squarely upon them yet they refuse to raise taxes on the richest Americans under any circumstances because they took a jackass oath to Grover Norquist in a direct conflict of interests with their duty as our members of our legislative branch.

      Obama has saved the auto industry, reformed the health care system, ended the war in Iraq, killed Bin Laden and decimated Al Quaida,

      The economy is rebounding, no thanks to the Republicans, and the Republican field of candidates is a dismal series of nut cakes and radicals with one moderate who is hated by his own party and will not be elected if nominated.

      Obama is certain to be re-elected and the Republicans will be lucky not to be swept out of the House and the Senate in a wave of dis-satisfaction by the 99%ers.

      • 1 vote
      #1.15 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:43 PM EST
      Bye

      As far as I can tell the "Job Creators" have had their "Job Creating Tax Breaks" all along here....the problem is they're NOT creating any jobs.

      Roll back to the Tax Rates of Reagan or even Clinton and the economy will start chugging again. Extending the Bush tax cuts is the worst thing for the economy. People need JOBS so they have disposable income to spend to move goods and services....thus stimulating the economy. People need to be able to buy supplies to create demand. Business owners will invest in their companies to avoid paying the higher tax rates.....just like they used to.

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 1 vote
      #1.16 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:43 PM EST
      ABO Warrior

      The crash was caused by fraudulent and greedy conduct on Wall Street, in the banking, mortgage, insurance, and financial rating institutions, and by non-regulation under Republican regimes.

      Not a true statement demo.The financial crisis started back in the Clinton Administration when the Glass-Steagal Law was repealed. G-S was a law that defined what sorts of institutions could invest in certain areas of the economy. It prevented companies such as Lehman Brothers from being in the home mortgage business and banks from being in the stock brokerage business. The Congress wanted the bill repealed because these companies were huge contributors to their election funds and wanted less regulation. Clinton went along with it. It worked OK for a while though it ws always destined to cause trouble. The trouble came when the democrats wanted to use the Communtiy Reinvestment Act to pressure banks into lowering their lending standards to allow low income people to own homes. The banks had to comply under fedceral pressure. When the people who bought no downpayment homes couldn't make the payments, the banks started to bundled the bad loans and sell them around the world financial market. Then some companies started to offer insurenece to each other against the default of the bad paper. Eventually everybody owned everybody elses bad paper while those zero down mortages had increasing rates and they began to default. It was a house of cards and it fell. The Treasury Dept had warned the Bush Admin about the problem and GWB sent 6 bills to the House to fix it. Barney Frank was the Chairman of the banking Committee and refused to allow a debate on the bills and they never went to the floor. In fact, you can see Frank and Maxine Waters defending Fannie and Freddie on You Tube. There is plenty of blame to go around both parties for the past 20 years that led us to where we are. But to say that GWB was at fault is not correct.

      • 4 votes
      #1.17 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:10 PM EST
      AmusedinVa

      Obama came into office after the financial melt down occurred under Bush. Absolute truth and undeniable.

      Partially correct in that it had begun before he took office but it continued to worsen for a short time through the inaction of the democratic congress which was more focused on health care than fixing it. The federal reserve ( as much as I hate crediting them ) fixed that mess and stabilized the markets through no help of the Congress or Obama.

      The crash was caused by fraudulent and greedy conduct on Wall Street, in the banking, mortgage, insurance, and financial rating institutions, and by non-regulation under Republican regimes.

      Again partially correct. The non regulation as you want to put it began 40 years ago and has been the fault of both parties in Congress and in the White House.

      Bush lost more jobs than Obama did. Undeniable statistic.

      Only in the minds of someone who can't read statistics. According to the Department of Labor bureau of labor statistics there were steady increases from 2003 until 2008 and the losses in 2008 were almost half those of 2009 and 2010.

      There has been steady jobs growth since summer of 2010 under Obama. Unemployment is falling under Obama.

      Close enough on that one. Actual gains started in October of 2010 but fall/ summer who's picky.

      The income gap in this country accelerated under every Republican president since Reagan and yet the Republicans refuse to do anything to make it more fair.

      Irrelevant democrat talking point. From 1980 until 2010 average incomes rose across the board from the richest to the poorest. Claiming that people who were already wealthy became wealthier means nothing because everyone became wealthier in that time period and it stands to reason that someone who had more to start with will gain more as gains are made.

      Republican Senators and Congressmen take an oath to uphold the Constitution which puts the responsibility to fund the government by taxation squarely upon them yet they refuse to raise taxes on the richest Americans under any circumstances because they took a jackass oath to Grover Norquist in a direct conflict of interests with their duty as our members of our legislative branch.

      Some did some didn't take the Norquist pledge and those that did were stupid for doing so. However lumping them all together and blaming the entire group is equally stupid. As for taxes though the "tax the rich" is again nothing but a democrat talking point. Forty percent of all federal taxes are paid by the "rich" who number less than 5% of the taxpayers. How much do you consider a "fair share"?

      Obama has saved the auto industry, reformed the health care system, ended the war in Iraq, killed Bin Laden and decimated Al Quaida,

      This ones hillarious. The auto industry didn't need saved. GM and Chrysler are not the industry but rather 2 of many manufacturers. Even if both had gone completely away Ford and other companies would have still been there and the "industry" would have continued as it has for the last century without the government "saving" it.

      On health care we'll wait and see what the Supreme Court says before saying who did what. But even then it wasn't the reform Obama proposed that was finally passed by Pelosi and Reid so give the credit or blame where it belongs.

      Now I really like this one. Obama ended the war in Iraq. I guess if you consider that he followed through on the time frame for withdrawal that was decided before he was elected you could claim that. You get the Bin Laden credit as accurate but the decimating Al Queda was accomplished long before he became president. We haven't seen anything measurable from them in years the enemy in Afghanistan is the Taliban.

      The rest of the comments were political dribble so not even going to bother with responding to them. Nice try though at getting the prpoganda points out.

      • 6 votes
      #1.18 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:27 PM EST
      cannonballer

      Nancy said it best when she came up with, “Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program”

      Who needs job creators anyways? But wait there's more...

      "First Bush cut taxes for the rich and the economy has rebounded with new record low unemployment rates, which only means wealthy employers are getting even wealthier at the expense of the underpaid working class." Ummm, what?

      http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/15/pelosi-hey-quit-your-job-well-pay-for-your-health-coverage/

      Employment is sooo overrated.

      • 3 votes
      #1.19 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:09 PM EST
      HappyToSeeYa

      AmusedinVa
      so, those companies sitting on.money and are risk adverse to hiring are not part of the problem, huh?

      . . .

      Take all that into account then decide if these companies "sitting" on cash reserves is something bad or are they the ones who are actually being prudent and trying to keep the people who still do have jobs working.

      this is a sad and ridiculous observation that disses creating jobs in America in support of companies that receive tax cuts to create jobs offshore

        #1.20 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:54 PM EST
        AmusedinVa

        this is a sad and ridiculous observation that disses creating jobs in America in support of companies that receive tax cuts to create jobs offshore

        No that's just a simple explanation of how businesses work and what they have to do in order to survive. Your moving into an entire different category by talking about companies that get tax credits to create jobs overseas and that is the fault of the government for providing those incentives to them.

        But since you seem to think that's so ridiculous how do you explain all the companies that in the last 2 years have gone out of business for lack of cash reserves to weather the downturn. How many retail chains are gone now? The ones that survived are the ones that had large reserves of cash to operate on.

        Or maybe yet the best example would be the one of General motors. Prior to finally going under and getting the government bailout GM had lost money for several straight years at the rate of over $1 billion a quarter. The only reason they survived that long was because they started out with almost $30 billion in cash reserves so they could keep paying people for several years until their money ran out.

        Ironically when you mention companies creating jobs offshore you probably didn't even realize that many of our largest domestic employers are foreign owned corporations that created jobs here by going "offshore" from their home countries.

        • 1 vote
        #1.21 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:15 PM EST
        Confer

        You no doubt have been amused in VA every time you log in. It is difficult to believe that so many are products of a very limited base of understanding. Your input is a refreshing change. Thanks.

        • 1 vote
        #1.22 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:02 PM EST
        Linda Luke

        January through March will be dire, Sears, KMart, and the US Post Office. All hell is going to break loose.

        • 1 vote
        #1.23 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:49 AM EST
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        mitch j

        woa! sure hope Rugaber has a few months pay saved up, and perhaps protection for his family.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:49 AM EST
        bore-head007

        Patriot 8888

        No surprise. The Holiday boost in hiring is over. Let's brace ourselves for January.

        Not to mention construction, what there was of it, now faces winter shutdown.

        • 5 votes
        #2.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:49 AM EST
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        don-72

        What happens in any one week a trend it dose not make. LOL

        The over all trend for the past year has been down.

        And that is not good for the tea bag/republican party no matter how they spin it.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:27 AM EST
        Carol-500283

        They said seasanally adjusted, but does that mean the people who are laid-off for the week between Christmas and New Year because the management doesn't want to work just three days either?? Yes, I have a relative who works at one of the unemployment offices-this is what happens, so add that in to the mix. Let's add all of the ingredients to the mix before we make the pancakes.

        • 2 votes
        #3.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:47 AM EST
        BostonMan-3128434

        And that is not good for the tea bag/republican party no matter how they spin it.

        But it is good for Obama and the Dem controlled Senate?

        • 3 votes
        #3.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:20 PM EST
        AmusedinVa

        They said seasanally adjusted, but does that mean the people who are laid-off for the week between Christmas and New Year because the management doesn't want to work just three days either??

        The bureau of labor statistics accounts for this by deducting some of the numbers from the overall applications based on certain industries. For example auto makers and many industries shut down for about a 10 day period during the holiday so those workers are not counted in the average because it's only a week shutdown. They do the same thing over the July fourth holiday cause many factories shutdown then too for a week.

        • 1 vote
        #3.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:35 PM EST
        tony1234

        For example auto makers and many industries shut down for about a 10 day period during the holiday so those workers are not counted in the average because it's only a week shutdown

        But those people don't file for unemployment benefits, when they shut down, employees go on vacation, they are not laid off.

        • 2 votes
        #3.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:44 PM EST
        AmusedinVa

        No they file. My mom works at an automotive supplier and is an officer in the UAW and I previously worked for 7 years as an officer in the USW at an auto supplier. During shutdowns they collect 1 week of unemployment benefits, but it's generally only at Christmas that they get paid the benefit because there's a 1 week waiting period which is eliminated in July when they file then so in December they file and get the money.

        • 2 votes
        #3.5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:50 PM EST
        tony1234

        Oh, I see. My experience is in the printing industry so I assumed they planned vacations during shutdowns. So they take vacations at other time and file unemployed for the shutdown. Very convenient for the employee.

        • 2 votes
        #3.6 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:14 PM EST
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        Newbigtech

        Sears and Kmart closing 120 Anchor stores... at 100 people each store is 12K people plus the small stores it effects.

        Home depot announced layoffs out west.

        The new year brings more than 500 layoffs for City of Chicago employees.

        Susquehanna Bancshares Inc. in Lititz, Pa., is planning to eliminate nearly 350 jobs in Pennsylvania and Maryland, according to notices it filed with labor departments in both states this month.

        Layoffs are tough, no matter what time of year. But at Christmas, it’s insult on injury. That’s no doubt the case for the 181 Birmingham Southern Railroad Co. employees who are getting laid off, according to a public notice.

        More Than One-Third Of Morgan Stanley Job Cuts To Hit NYC.

        Officials at Fort Knox say they are trying to cut more than 100 civilian positions without resorting to layoffs. The move is due to a directive from the Army, which is reducing its civilian workforce by 8,700.

        About 500 employees were laid off from Hawaii Medical Center's two hospitals on Christmas Eve. A total of 30 patients remain at the two hospitals, including five at Hawaii Medical Center West in Ewa, and 25 at Hawaii Medical Center East.

        Hundreds of Nassau County workers may be laid off on Thursday, Dec. 29, according to a law passed by the county legislature on Monday. The layoffs would save the county $75 million, said Chief Deputy County Executive Rob Walker. Walker.

        Obama and the missing 825 Billion Stimulus....continuing the democratic recovery....as promised in 2008

        • 6 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:51 AM EST
        dogbot15

        In case you missed it the stimulus should have been bigger but the right wont let anything go through congress that helps.

        More Than One-Third Of Morgan Stanley Job Cuts To Hit NYC.

        thats a good one actually, we shouldnt have so many people in the finance industry not doing a damn thing productive for society.

        Officials at Fort Knox say they are trying to cut more than 100 civilian positions without resorting to layoffs. The move is due to a directive from the Army, which is reducing its civilian workforce by 8,700.

        this you can blame republicans who are demanding that government cut spending, when Obama did NOT increase yearly spending. (yes he did stimulus spending but he did not increase, yearly government spending out side of attacking the recession left for him)

        Hundreds of Nassau County workers may be laid off on Thursday, Dec. 29, according to a law passed by the county legislature on Monday. The layoffs would save the county $75 million, said Chief Deputy County Executive Rob Walker. Walker

        Not sure what county administration has to do with Obama, especially a county run completely by republicans.

        • 1 vote
        #4.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:08 AM EST
        AmusedinVa

        this you can blame republicans who are demanding that government cut spending, when Obama did NOT increase yearly spending. (yes he did stimulus spending but he did not increase, yearly government spending out side of attacking the recession left for him)

        You must have not noticed the "omnibus budget act" that was the first thing he passed before the "stimulus" which increased spending 30% across the board at nearly every government agency.

        • 6 votes
        #4.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:35 AM EST
        dogbot15

        amused most of that was scheduled increase in spending due to population increases. It was also a total of 400 billion with no matter how you spin it, is NOT a 30% increase across the board.

        you can see Obamas contributions to our spending here

        you can see most of the pain came from bush and the republicans who refused to fund anything.. here

        yoiu might have also missed all the cuts to programs that have been going on.. you remember the deficit commitee who only agreed to spending cuts and refused to consider even letting the bush tax cuts expire as agreed to.

        and Obama has been a cutter.

          #4.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:58 PM EST
          AmusedinVa

          amused most of that was scheduled increase in spending due to population increases. It was also a total of 400 billion with no matter how you spin it, is NOT a 30% increase across the board.

          You left out the last part of my statement where I said at nearly every government agency. The $400 billion was added spending to agencies that were being increased above the already increased amounts for the 2009 budget year. These were mainly domestic programs that democrats felt didn't get large enough increases in the budget for 2009 when the budget passed in 2008. The Department of Defense, Social Security, and Medicare were not part of that package so yes the increase was 30% and in some cases more for every agency that got the increases.

          yoiu might have also missed all the cuts to programs that have been going on.. you remember the deficit commitee who only agreed to spending cuts and refused to consider even letting the bush tax cuts expire as agreed to.

          Actually very few cuts have been made yet. There's a lot of confusion between normal English and democrat speak when it comes to the word cut. Reducing future increases which is what mostly has happened is not cutting something as it is often said to be. If you have a budget this year of $1 million and next year you get a budget of $1.25 million instead of $2 million nothing has been cut because you still have more than you started with.

          • 3 votes
          #4.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:42 PM EST
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          dogbot15

          after christmas the temporary jobs go away.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#5 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:01 AM EST
          mayeuDeleted
          EJCanavan

          "In November, the unemployment rate fell to 8.6 percent from 9 percent. Still, about half that decline occurred because many of the unemployed gave up looking for work. When people stop looking for a job, they're no longer counted as unemployed."

          This sentence made the entire article null and void. Did they think we wouldn't see that ?

          • 5 votes
          Reply#7 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:10 AM EST
          njmick

          Not to mention the temps hired for the holidays wont be eligible to file for unemployment ,so those numbers will just disappear.

          • 2 votes
          #7.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:43 PM EST
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          Bill K. NY

          DUH! Christmas is over and the temp sales force is once again out of work.

          Oh, I forgot to add "it's Bush's fault."

          • 5 votes
          Reply#8 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:09 PM EST
          MICHAEL-595198

          yea, bush's fault, problem is the one in charge really doesn't know what he is doing. he doesn't know what side he is on. HE IS ON THE MUSLIM SIDE and it is going to bite us right in the ass some day soon.

          • 1 vote
          #8.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:19 PM EST
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          Sammy-2678587

          Wow I'm shocked. With all those jobs being created by Obama, how can this be? Yes it 's all Bushes fault, his long has he been out of office? There is almost not a week that goes by that I don't hear about another business closing and 100's out of jobs. Nothing's changed.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#9 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:16 PM EST
          Bill K. NY

          Closing businesses, increasing the number of unemployed, and taxing the rich are all stimulating the economy and preventing global warming... er... climate change. Haven't you been paying attention?

          • 3 votes
          #9.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:23 PM EST
          Sammy-2678587

          Haven't you been paying attention?

          In my defense I didn't get the memo. :)

            #9.2 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:59 PM EST
            dogbot15

            Bush blamed Clinton for a recession that happened during the bush years.

            Bush blamed Clinton for 911

            You guys blamed Jimmy Carter for the recession

            so give the retarded "blame" meme a rest, no one blames other people more than the GOP.

            The GOP blamed the media for losing to Obama when Bush was polling in the dirt, which the GOP blamed on the media as well.

            The GOP blamed the media and the public for losing the Vietnam war.

            The GOP try to blame everyone for everything, unless it is good then they want to to take credit. Yeah like Reagan released the hostages while taking the oath of office.. yeah right.

              #9.3 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:02 PM EST
              cannonballer

              In 8 years I didn't hear "it's the other guys fault" as much as I heard it in the last 3.

              • 2 votes
              #9.4 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:36 PM EST
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              demo scout

              Read more carefully blind ideologues. The article said that even though the claims rose slightly the numbers are still consistent with moderate job growth and the four week rolling average for claims still showed a reduction in jobless claims.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#10 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:47 PM EST
              MICHAEL-595198

              isn't this what obama wants? no one needs to work, after awhile the free needs to stop because the ones paying for the free will soon run out of money then we will be over run by Arabs or Indian's, or towel heads or dot heads whatever you call them obama is letting them into this country by the 10,s of thousands. plus from south America also, CT. is getting 150,000 immigrant's to find work that Americans can't find, isn't he a big ass hole. Send his ass back to the muslim world.

                Reply#11 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:16 PM EST
                Confer

                How do you really feel?

                  #11.1 - Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:10 PM EST
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                  mkswdDeleted
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                  Obbop

                  "suggests job growth could pick up"

                  SUGGESTS... COULD....

                  More blathering by our ruling elite-class masters, corporate USA, etc.

                  Lies.... propaganda.....

                  The official unemployment rate is far below the ACTUAL factual rate.

                  Also, no mention as to the subjective quality of newly-created jobs.

                  Low-paid part-time work with no benefits?

                  But.... you are working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Well, so are folks rooting through garbage piles in 3rd-world countries.

                  Welcome to the "new" USA!!!

                  We're number ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  "There's class warfare, all right, Mr. (Warren) Buffett said, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning"

                  There has been class warfare going on," Buffett, 81, said in a Sept. 30 interview with Charlie Rose on PBS. It's just that my class is winning. And my class isn't just winning, I mean we're killing them."

                  "My friends and I have been coddled long enough by a billionaire-friendly Congress." - Billionaire Warren Buffett, in a New York Times op-ed on Aug. 15.

                    Reply#15 - Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:14 AM EST
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