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Marijuana doesn't harm lung function, study found

Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:01 PM EST
health, us, marijuana, med, lungs
Lindsey Tanner, AP Medical Writer
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CHICAGO — Smoking a joint once a week or a bit more apparently doesn't harm the lungs, suggests a 20-year study that bolsters evidence that marijuana doesn't do the kind of damage tobacco does.

The results, from one of the largest and longest studies on the health effects of marijuana, are hazier for heavy users — those who smoke two or more joints daily for several years. The data suggest that using marijuana that often might cause a decline in lung function, but there weren't enough heavy users among the 5,000 young adults in the study to draw firm conclusions.

Still, the authors recommended "caution and moderation when marijuana use is considered."

Marijuana is an illegal drug under federal law although some states allow its use for medical purposes.

The study by researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, and the University of Alabama at Birmingham was released Tuesday by the Journal of the American Medical Association.

The findings echo results in some smaller studies that showed while marijuana contains some of the same toxic chemicals as tobacco, it does not carry the same risks for lung disease.

It's not clear why that is so, but it's possible that the main active ingredient in marijuana, a chemical known as THC, makes the difference. THC causes the "high" that users feel. It also helps fight inflammation and may counteract the effects of more irritating chemicals in the drug, said Dr. Donald Tashkin, a marijuana researcher and an emeritus professor of medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles. Tashkin was not involved in the new study.

Study co-author Dr. Stefan Kertesz said there are other aspects of marijuana that may help explain the results.

Unlike cigarette smokers, marijuana users tend to breathe in deeply when they inhale a joint, which some researchers think might strengthen lung tissue. But the common lung function tests used in the study require the same kind of deep breathing that marijuana smokers are used to, so their good test results might partly reflect lots of practice, said Kertesz, a drug abuse researcher and preventive medicine specialist at the Alabama university.

The study authors analyzed data from participants in a 20-year federally funded health study in young adults that began in 1985. Their analysis was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

The study randomly enrolled 5,115 men and women aged 18 through 30 in four cities: Birmingham, Chicago, Oakland, Calif., and Minneapolis. Roughly equal numbers of blacks and whites took part, but no other minorities. Participants were periodically asked about recent marijuana or cigarette use and had several lung function tests during the study.

Overall, about 37 percent reported at least occasional marijuana use, and most users also reported having smoked cigarettes; 17 percent of participants said they'd smoked cigarettes but not marijuana. Those results are similar to national estimates.

On average, cigarette users smoked about 9 cigarettes daily, while average marijuana use was only a joint or two a few times a month — typical for U.S. marijuana users, Kertesz said.

The authors calculated the effects of tobacco and marijuana separately, both in people who used only one or the other, and in people who used both. They also considered other factors that could influence lung function, including air pollution in cities studied.

The analyses showed pot didn't appear to harm lung function, but cigarettes did. Cigarette smokers' test scores worsened steadily during the study. Smoking marijuana as often as one joint daily for seven years, or one joint weekly for 20 years was not linked with worse scores. Very few study participants smoked more often than that.

Like cigarette smokers, marijuana users can develop throat irritation and coughs, but the study didn't focus on those. It also didn't examine lung cancer, but other studies haven't found any definitive link between marijuana use and cancer.

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demdame

Tax it and make it legal

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:07 PM EST
MYSTIC1

They won't Allow that to Happen. Too many Politicians with Their Hands in the TILL. Plus it would get the US out Of DEBT. Simple Mathematics. And Ignorance Running OUR COUNTRY.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:09 AM EST
MeanGene-3334839

Tax it and make it legal.

Taxes are laws. Potheads are lawbreakers. You may as well tax bank robbery for all the good it'll do. Taxes on vice are regressive anyway because the myth of the wealthy stoner is at complete odds with the cries for sympathy for the broken bodies of those who 'need' medical marijuana.

Basically, when it comes to proponents of pot, they'll throw out any baited hook there is and hope some fish is gonna bite.

These researchers are drug pushers, plain and simple. They took advantage of nicotine addicts and stoners because their research would be unethical as Hell if they took a group of, say, 15-year-old children and made some smoke tobacco and others smoke marijuana from laboratory samples to determine the actual effect on lungs from a controlled study.

Any study doing that would have the villagers coming with torches and pitchforks, storming their little Frankenstein's Castle, wouldn't they?

There are no ethics in taxing marijuana.

If you're taxing medical marijuana, then you're taxing sick people. That's not very ethical, in fact that's borderline evil. Here in Arizona, medicine has no State sales tax because, frankly, it looks pretty bad to be taking money from those unfortunate enough to fall upon illness.

If you're taxing recreational marijuana, then that's a regressive tax. You're taxing the crap out of poor people, and that looks pretty bad too. Most potheads aren't wealthy, it's not a rich man's drug and almost all (95%) pot possession charges wind up plea deals because the pothead can't afford a decent lawyer. Most arrested potheads are indigent and tell the court so, winding up with a court-appointed lawyer and all the quality that comes with a public defender.

Potheads are worthless as a tax base. They're worthless as soldiers too, the US Army won't even take them for cannon fodder, so how much could we expect from taxing these welfare cases?

NOTHING. Most potheads live on the dole anyway, they don't have jobs, they live as dependents and their main sources of income are well outside the purview of the IRS. The "black market" taxes just aren't going to materialize because the behavior is shameful and nobody is going to admit to doing it.

It's like taxing prostitutes. It sounds like a great idea, until you realize that the Johns paying the taxes have to declare it on a tax form as public record, and are they gonna do that? Not hardly. How about the Hookers, are they gonna go on public record as Sexual Service Providers? Not under their own names, they're not. That's why Johns are all named "John" and all Hookers get to pick their own names.

The shame is a health hazard in itself, and the shame won't ever go away. Smokers are ashamed of what they are. Alcoholics are ashamed of what they are. Why would potheads be proud of their vice anymore than any other vice, and isn't shame a health hazard too?

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:58 AM EST
Da Quiet One

MeanGene

I am a smoker and proud of it, I drink alcohol and I'm proud of that too. Guess what I smoke MJ as well, I'm proud of that and I have a job, did I mention I'm not on goberment cheese. Fact is most potheads as you put it are regular people that have regular jobs, pay regular taxes and could be your regular neighbor without your regular knowledge.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:08 PM EST
MeanGene-3334839

I am a smoker and proud of it, I drink alcohol and I'm proud of that too.

You might as well be, since smokers and drunks can typically be found out with one quick whiff of their breath giving them away. It's not like it's easy to hide.

Guess what I smoke MJ as well, I'm proud of that and I have a job, did I mention I'm not on goberment cheese.

Welfare, if Republicans get their way, will soon be history for the stoner welfare cases of America. If a person can afford the exorbitant prices of marijuana then that person obviously has no need of money for more serious expenses.

MJ is a pretty good way to lose a job, and before you go and say it's because it's not legal, I'd point out that alcohol has lost many a job as well. Smoking cigarettes makes a person nearly unemployable too, since employers don't like the high health care costs and absenteeism due to illness that come with hiring a tobacco user.

Not many jobs are compatible with stoners. Teachers or day care workers aren't going to be working around kids while stoned. Doctors and lawyers would lose their licenses to practice, commercial truckers would lose their jobs for sure along with their licenses and so being a stoner is really bad for employment.

Over half of American employers test new hires for marijuana abuse because nobody wants anything doing with their ilk. Potheads cause workplace accidents and are nearly untrainable because of the effect marijuana has in destroying memory function.

Fact is most potheads as you put it are regular people that have regular jobs, pay regular taxes and could be your regular neighbor without your regular knowledge.

Potheads reek from 10 miles away. If there were any marijuana within ten miles of me I'd call the cops and demand that the vermin be hauled off like the common criminal he is. They can explain to the JUDGE just how normal what they've done is.

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:56 PM EST
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Midnight Toker 4+20

Where are all of the anti-MJ buffoons who recite the propaganda about its detrimental effects on the lungs again? MJ is the least harmful drug around including the likes of alcohol, caffeine or aspirin for that matter.

Legalize, regulate now.

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:04 PM EST
MeanGene-3334839

This study is flawed. The whole reason potheads use bongs full of water is because the smoke of marijuana is hot and harsh, and it causes severe burns of the airway. The study found a foregone conclusion that doesn't even make sense. OF COURSE smoke inhalation causes damage. That's why potheads cough and wheeze and have to use Visine to deal with the gross harshness of the worst-smelling plant on Earth.

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:01 PM EST
MissLB79

Stay focused MeanGene. The objective of the study was to find out if marijuana affected "lung" function. Please refer to JAMA reference http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/307/2/173.short

I hope these study of marijuana increases and continues.

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:18 PM EST
MYSTIC1

I Volunteer for a PAIN RELIEF STUDY. It's the ONLY thing that will help My type of Chronic Pain. This has been told to Me by Several Drs., Only problem, It's illegal in My State. I use it anyway in small amounts Medicinally and NOT to get Stoned. I passed that Day a LONGGGG Time ago. I have Degenerative Bone Disease and very strong Muscle Tone. This in turn causes My Bones to be pulled together and I've ground them Down to Bone to Bone and stay at a Very High Level of PAIN. This helps to relax the Muscles, Tendons and Ligaments, Therefore Reducing the Pain Level to Tolerable.

    #3.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:39 PM EST
    MeanGene-3334839

    I hope these despicable "Scientists" go to prison for racketeering and criminal enterprise, knowing who thousands of criminal pot smokers were and not calling the authorities. They're unethical at best and an accessory after the fact at worst.

    They all need their medical licenses yanked. This nation doesn't need Dr. Beavis and Nurse Butthead pretending to be scientists.

    I hope these study of marijuana increases and continues.

    There's no good reason to study marijuana. We've known what it does for 500 years of history, from making the assassins (hashish eaters) infamous for violence to turning Jared Loughner into a stark raving schizo killer.

    No ethical study would ever harm human beings by exposing them to something as brutally abusive as a plant so well associated with Reefer Madness.

    The pulmonary health of criminals who deserve to be thrown in jail is not of scientific concern, and these so-called "scientists" just wanted to find some party buds and waste grant money on weed "in the name of science".

    • 2 votes
    #3.3 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:42 AM EST
    MeanGene-3334839

    I Volunteer for a PAIN RELIEF STUDY.

    I volunteer for a study on the corruption of money. Please send me a check for $50 Billion so that I can see it up close and personal, in the name of science and my new Ferrari, please.

    This is exactly the kind of thing that's wrong with a "scientific study" that people want to be a part of so much. The conclusions are pre-ordained, a foregone conclusion and that's not science, that's not how science works and it's not a valid study when there is a forced outcome.

    It's the ONLY thing that will help My type of Chronic Pain.

    That attitude is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Such an attitude found in a test subject skews any findings, as the subject already believes in a foregone outcome of the study. This negates any claim of objectivism, and without an objective study, you have no science.

    This has been told to Me by Several Drs., Only problem, It's illegal in My State.

    It's illegal in every State, because it's a violation of Federal Law, just like owning a slave, robbing a bank, forging money and operating a moonshine still. It doesn't matter what your State law is concerning legalization, because if it did, then we'd still have slavery in Alabama.

    If I ever have a quack ass Doctor suggest that I should try marijuana, I am calling the State Board of Medical Examiners to have this worthless puke tested for dope because he's probably practicing medicine under the influence of drugs. I sure as HELL wouldn't keep him for a Doctor and I would do everything to get his license yanked for endangering a patient.

    I use it anyway in small amounts Medicinally and NOT to get Stoned. I passed that Day a LONGGGG Time ago.

    It's not medicinal. If it were, then you'd be buying it from an accredited pharmacist and not on the street. I wouldn't even buy a wristwatch that way, because it's too dangerous.

    Did you know that marijuana is sold by weight? That's right, it's sold by the kilogram, and do you know what unscrupulous smugglers and dealers add in order to up the kilogram weight?

    They're putting lead in marijuana. Some samples of street marijuana have been found to be up to 10% by weight adulterated by lead. Sure, it's a toxic metal that leads to permanent neurological damage, but who would be suspicious if a pothead started acting brain damaged anyway?

    That's another reason to discount this "scientific study". There were no laboratory controls. Were the tobacco smokers using filtered or unfiltered cigarettes? Were the potheads using bongs, joints or pipes? Were the lawbreaking dopers completely honest about their drug abuse?

    Before you say "well, legalization would stop the adulteration of marijuana" I ask you to consider this:

    Tobacco is adulterated hundreds of ways. Highlights of the adulterants include Ammonia (window cleaner, yummy!), Methyl Salicylate (Ben-Gay sports cream active ingredient) and Terpinolene, a wholly synthetic hydrocarbon (related to Turpentine, aka paint thinner).

    So, what did this amateurish study by Dr. Beavis and Nurse Butthead prove in actuality? Not a damned thing, because there's practically no such thing as pure tobacco on the market and so they're studying people who are smoking a known adulterated substance (tobacco) and comparing it to a street drug adulterated with Heaven knows what.

    The methods are invalid and the study proved nothing.

    • 2 votes
    #3.4 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:40 AM EST
    MissLB79

    MeanGene, I say to you.....smoke one! Lets just see what it might do for you.

    I"m taking your point seriously, but I must say you're very narrowing minded, we've come a long way in many avenues.

      #3.5 - Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:23 AM EST
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      Buzz of the Orient

      Where are all of the anti-MJ buffoons who recite the propaganda about its detrimental effects on the lungs again?

      Midnight, your question has just been answered.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:04 PM EST
      Buzz of the Orient

      Just to indicate that drugs don't necessarity change people into blithering idiots (although I think that there are some people who are blithering idiots ABOUT drugs, MOST present company excepted).

      http://sbuzzc76.newsvine.com/_news/2012/01/10/10089961-top-5-scholarly-geniuses-who-did-crazy-drugs

      • 2 votes
      #4.1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:49 AM EST
      lol@that

      Agreed, Buzz... Methinks someone has seen "Reefer Madness" one too many times...

        #4.2 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:59 PM EST
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        shepherd0886

        DNFTT. This guy will ride you like a $3.00 horse once you start responding to him.

        Now to get back on point the article said that it only considered the effects on lung function. Finally someone actually is posting some legitimately acknowledged research conducted here in our own country that is telling the truth. There are research efforts in other less repressive countries that are showing cannabis and/or its ingredients is/are not only harmless in most people but actually has some really remarkable medicinal effects. The Spanish study on brain cancer impressed me a lot. I really hope that they can perfect that to the point that it can cure cancer in humans rather than just monkeys.

        There have also been studies on the potential for addiction and it was determined that there was no physical addiction noted. Mild psychological addiction was possible however, not unlike excessive eating (food addiction) is with some people. In addition studies have been conducted on the possiblity of motor skills impairment and, while some impairment was noted, it was also noted that said impairment was generally off-set by hypercritical attention to detail and being extra careful. Therefore marijuana users simply were not unduly accident prone as are users of alcohol.

        I am not a user of this herb but I am very much in favor of our government finally backing off of this lie and simply decriminalizing its possession and use. To be honest I actually favor the Portugese approach but that will probably never happen. There is just way too much money being made fighting the drug war. So I say at least release this hostage so that the potential benefits can be realized by the voting public who choose to use it. If you believe Mr. Simpson of Canada hundreds of thousands of people have suffered needlessly and maybe even died because this herb was not available for their use. Whether that is true or not I cannot say but I will say that if I am ever diagnosed with any of the maladies that he claims to be able to cure I will most certainly do my best to try his 30 day cure before I let the established medical profession poison me with drugs and burn me up with radiation and cause me a painful and horrible death.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:05 PM EST
        MYSTIC1

        Believe Me, I would Rather Smoke a Little Herb and feel Relaxed, than Take All these Damn Pills I have to Now. You are Correct shepherd, Half of what I take does NOTHING for Relief, and the rest I think just lay in my Stomach and dissolve, with NO Effect.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#6 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:17 AM EST
        MeanGene-3334839

        Believe Me, I would Rather Smoke a Little Herb and feel Relaxed, than Take All these Damn Pills I have to Now.

        So, I'm supposed to believe that you're taking a bunch of pills you don't believe in? You're taking pills with an expectation of complete and utter failure? Why take pills then? Why take anything at all?

        The human body was built for pain. Pain is good and natural, a means of survival. It tells us where our wounds are, where things are wrong, and it's a maintenance tool for health.

        If you were even remotely interested in a cure, then you wouldn't mask the pain. You would accept it as a means to cure, and not an excuse for doing dope.

        I question your euphemisms, calling the weed "marijuana" an "herb". It's not an herb by any stretch and is not commonly used in any herbal fashion because it is fundamentally useless for herbal purposes. It smells bad, it tastes bad, it causes paranoia (not relaxation) and the people who use it tend to be impaired by it and not in their right minds. Hallucinogenic psychotropic drugs tend to be that way.

        • 2 votes
        #6.1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:17 AM EST
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        Long-underwear Man

        Light Up America! Smoking a Mary Jane is a ok!!

        • 2 votes
        Reply#7 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:28 AM EST
        MeanGene-3334839

        Most fire codes restrict smoking in public places now. You can't even wave lighters in concerts anymore, and you think it's okay to light up? REALLY?

        Cars don't even come with ashtrays anymore. The place where cigarette lighters in cars used to be are called "power points". Smoking is fundamentally forbidden. You can drop your pants in more places than you can smoke these days.

        That's one of the funnier aspects of this "study". The goal of this propoganda piece is to prove that marijuana should be at least as legal as tobacco. Problem with that is, tobacco isn't very legal.

        I don't smoke, myself. I'm disgusted by it, nasty ashes all over the place, the smell is disgusting and lingers for years, and the stench clings to everything, clothes, hair, even skin.

        Now that we live in a fresh-air world where pollution is considered to be a violation of personal space, potheads have nothing to win by claiming equality with tobacco. Most people hate smokers, as you can't even propose an anti-smoker ordnance these days and not come away with a landslide victory nowadays.

        I've never seen a tax-the-crap-outta-the-smoker bill fail. They never do, because only 15% of American adults smoke so the other 85% gang up and say "HELL YEAH, TAX THE OTHER GUY!"

        • 2 votes
        #7.1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:01 AM EST
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        Buzz of the Orient

        There is the possibility that someone on this seed, and every other positive article/seed, is being paid by the alcohol-tobacco industries to campaign against the medical benefits of marijuana use.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#8 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:13 AM EST
        shepherd0886

        Well Buzz regarding your #8 comment that may or may not be the case but in most instances these individuals arguments are so blatantly funny and filled with so much misinformation that I doubt that anyone with the intelligence of a wet rock gives them any credence whatsoever. I just read an interesting article on MSN Tech./Science about a 1300 year old marijuana stash that was found in the Gobi Desert in China.

        The interesting thing is that it was clearly cultivated for recreational or mind altering use because all traces of the male plant had been carefully removed. However the really interesting thing about it was that the individual in question was not even Asian but was Caucasian with blue eyes and he was carrying a 2 pound stash. Speculation was that he was a shaman and perhaps used it for rituals and even in healing. Also I have heard of several other burials found in that area where the mummified remains were identified as Caucasians and many had red hair and beards. It is kind of shaking up our conventional notions about how people migrated around on this planet many thousands of years ago but that is another discussion.

        I have also encountered a couple of sites where it was suggested that Jesus Christ may have been an herbalist and routinely used cannabis (marijuana) both in a smoking form and as an extract medicinally. In this case there is both linguistic evidence in some of the ancient writings, even the King James Bible, as well as some archaeological evidence in the form of pottery shards depicting a figure smoking it who was supposedly identified as Jesus. Maybe and maybe not but it is known for a fact that the Egyptian Amenhotep used it along with other herbs in treating his patients when he was not designing pyramids and other monuments. Traces of cannabis and cocaine have been isolated in some of the royal mummies remains. That also raises another interesting conundrum. Coca does not grow in Egypt but is native to South America. So how did they get it some 5000 years ago? Once again another discussion.

        I believe that the common household herb called sage is a cousin of cannabis and if it were cultivated and crossbred to enhance its contents like cannabis has been it could also produce a significant 'high' if smoked or eaten. Some kids try and smoke it today but I haven't heard if they have noticed any effects or not. However it is often commonly used in old time poltices to help draw out infection in wounds. Also an extract of the Italian herb Oregano has been used as a cold preventative. So back on point with this article the findings that it basically does no detectable harm to our lungs simply confirms its safety and several thousand years of human use and experience provides pretty solid empirical evidence to us that it certainly has some positive effects in both medicine and recreation so for us to suddenly declare it a hazard is kind of egotistical, arrogant, ignorant, and presumptuous to say the very least. LOL I think that it is a safe bet that if it hasn't destroyed civilization in the last 5000 or so years of its known use it probably isn't going to do it now all of a sudden. HEH HEH HEH HEH

        • 3 votes
        Reply#9 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:01 AM EST
        Buzz of the Orient

        Great post, shepherd. What did America's first nations smoke in their "peace pipes"? If in fact it was marijuana it is of interest that it was used to make peace, since smoking it does tend to make people peaceful.

        • 1 vote
        #9.1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:09 PM EST
        shepherd0886

        I seem to recall reading a comment somewhere (maybe in this post) that the early forms of tobacco used by the native Americans was a very strong variety that could even bring on hallucinations. Oops now I remember. It was in an article about a 1300 year old flask that was found in a dig in Mexico I believe that had contained tobacco and it was labeled as such and when they did a spectrographic analysis it confirmed what the label said. It translated "the house of it/ his/ her/ tobacco." Also most palentologists tend to agree that many of the Native Americans arrived here from Asia either by the land bridge or by following the shore line in canoes. It would not surprise me in the least if these Caucasian types perhaps had brought their herbal remedies to Asia and they in turn brought them here with them in some sort of an exodus in search of better lands and hunting grounds.

        In any case I personally have seen enough circumstantial evidence to believe that the old "Reefer Madness" propaganda was just a gigantic ruse staged by our government at the behest of some of Americas then richest industrialists. It was purely a profit move and now our government simply cannot let go of it because they have built an entire industry around supporting the fight against it and other more harmful drugs. In short we have made our bed and now we have to lie in it. LOL

        • 1 vote
        #9.2 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:48 PM EST
        Buzz of the Orient

        Yeah, shephard, but someone on this seed fills that bed with so much of his @!$%# you wouldn't want to be "within 10 miles" of it.

        • 1 vote
        #9.3 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:16 PM EST
        shepherd0886

        Kind of like walking across a pasture. Sometimes you just have to watch where you step. I just walk around it when I encounter it. LOL

          #9.4 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:30 PM EST
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