Chef Paula Deen hid diabetes, pushed high-fat food

Yeah......but it tastes SO GOOD.....yumm

Lisa_Lee

Yeah......but it tastes SO GOOD.....yumm

lol, you are so right.

:)

She is being demonized??? for not telling that she has Diabetes?!

Wow, no one can win. She is a liberal woman and does as she pleases. The only thing I love, love about her is her cooking.

Healthy food tastes good too. I went vegan 4 years ago and all my blood work is perfect now. I had to learn to cook and I'm actually pretty good at it. I eat VERY healthy. My co-workers make fun of how healthy my food is. They assume I am depriving myself, but I LOVE my food. And I have the occasional vegan cupcake or other treat, but most days it's all about the veggies!

Veggies sauteed in Lard.....double YUMM

LOl....no...no lard. Maybe Crisco? That's like veggie lard. Or coconut oil....the new "healthy" lard?

Or coconut oil....the new "healthy" lard?

So wish I could cook with coconut oil and milk...allergic. BAH!

tilapia coated in panko fried in coconut oil tonight. clean fresh taste. did okra after the fish and again, no greasy flavor, just the okra, coating and a little salt came through.

coconut oil can even be the way to go with pop corn.

No fair beej!

Yeah......but it tastes SO GOOD.....yumm

That's the problem - if people like the way it tastes they don't care if it's poison or not. How stupid is that?

I'm trying to figure out the ethics of a person who promotes this kind of disgusting fair who has a disease that for some is caused by the very drek she produces on her show.

Worse is that Novo Nordisk chose this fat slob as their "poster girl". Really unbelievable. As a user of their products I will be contacting them.

Even apart from the diabetes issue obesity rates in this country are skyrocketing.

If you love your family, you won't place Dean's poison concoctions on your table.

Maybe she should start the Poison Food Network.

Oh wait...maybe there already is one.

kaviag, I grew up on 2% milk. When I married my husband back in 1980 all he drank was whole milk. I remember my first gag reflect drinking that stuff. Eventually learned to drink it. Moved back to home roots and had 2% milk. I thought it tasted weak. Now it is what I give my family. Less fat, healthier, etc.

In fact, I had cut the fat intake in my home so much, that the first time I ate in a restaurant, the fat in the food made me sick to my stomach.

I am still trying to avoid fat foods, but with this economy, I have begun to feed my family "filler" foods to make a food budget that is not only lessened, but taking what I have and stretching it.

... count 'em, 5 chins and a media whore who put her name on every crappy Chinese made cooking utensil for quick cash... no regard to the fools who "just luv her," ...oh ya, she deserves such respect.

Rose,

For the most part my vegan diet is very cheap. Bulk grains are cheaper (only bargain at Whole Foods) and cooking your own beans is even cheaper than canned. I often use cheaper veggies like cabbage, turnips, etc, or use whatever is on sale. But I splurge on organic for leafy greens and berries. I think of the food as an investment in my health so I cut corners elsewhere (clothes, entertainment) and spend pretty freely on food, but I grew up poor and I'm "cheap at heart", so I prefer to keep an eye out for bargains.

In fact, I had cut the fat intake in my home so much, that the first time I ate in a restaurant, the fat in the food made me sick to my stomach.

I have that problem too. I don't eat out often and I usually feel a bit ill afterward. Even the vegan cupcakes I look forward to for weeks on end are often far too sweet. Once I had to throw one out halfway through (and it was a very small cupcake!). I think my tastebuds are being retrained.

Frequently, the best-known foreign specialty dishes are ones that are intended as special treats, not intended as every day faire. It is these sorts of treats that she has specialized in, because meals centered around tofu and rice cakes would be as successful as frozen spinach on a stick. I've got a magnet on my refrigerator:

Exercise hard. Eat right. Die anyway.

The health Nazis might not like it or go along with it, but I confess, I don't really give a damn.

Yeah, I figure I am going to die anyway. SOOOOO! I will have my cigarettes, and alcahol. I will eat fried foods, and sweets...maybe even both at the same time, I'm a rebel you know. Unfortuantely, I am going to lose some years, I just hope they are the ones where someone other than myself is wiping my ass. I would gladly smoke to that.

Typical pro-business response. Mike, the lady was PUSHING food that helps PROMOTE the incidence of type 2 diabetes, and was MAKING money doing that, while HIDING the fact that ER diet had CAUSED her to get diabetes and that she had NO DOUBT DRASTICALLY altered her diet from the one she was making MONEY off by selling it to an unaware client base.

She was promoting crap she herself couldn't eat anymore, because of what it had done to HER, and she STILL pushed it on others for the sake of MAKING MONEY - the ULTIMATE hypocritical libertarian business woman.

SELL OUT! This woman is a HYPOCRITE!

Have you tried her Honey Baked Ham stuffed Fried Macaroni and Double Cheese Balls yet?.......totally delish....

ryoushi, she wasn't pushing anything. She didn't hold you down and shove the food down your throat. If you don't like something, change the channel, turn the page, ignore it.

Nope, I agree with Mike.

Nobody is forcing anybody to eat Paula Deen's food. And anybody who thought that a person could eat her food often and not suffer bad effects is a fool. Her food is good, but only in moderation. One helping of her monkey bread isn't going to put you in the hospital, but eating it everyday will likely kill you. It is not like she was hiding the ingredients like a cigarette manufacturer.

She is under no obligation to disclose her medical condition. It is common sense that if you fry everything in 2 cups of lard and sprinkle it with 3 cups of sugar you are going to develop diabetes/heart disease/etc. It is up to every individual to decide what if anything they are going to put in their mouth, and they are going to face the consequences of that decision.

Personal responsibility goes a long way.

HeelsnHairMetal

Nope, I agree with Mike.

Nobody is forcing anybody to eat Paula Deen's food. And anybody who thought that a person could eat her food often and not suffer bad effects is a fool. Her food is good, but only in moderation. One helping of her monkey bread isn't going to put you in the hospital, but eating it everyday will likely kill you. It is not like she was hiding the ingredients like a cidiagarette manufacturer.

She is under no obligation to disclose her medical condition.

So by your way of thinking...if I had an infectious disease, and came to your house and touched everything, but did not tell you, I would be free of any liability?

What Paula did was inexcusable by continuing to push her butter & sugar laden recipes without a disclaimer!

Personal responsibility goes a long way.

Xactly

She was lying by OMISSION checkmate. She developed diabetes, most likely from the diet she was selling on her show, and doing this for THREE YEARS after she KNEW that she had diabetes.

In that way she was NO different than those chinese business men who sold tainted petfood and baby formula - she stood there and smiled and ah shucked her way thru her program. And, checkmate and heels, are going to say that advertising is pointless? Because that's what you are implying by saying just because she had a cooking show to PROMOTE certain types of food, that promotion was completely harmless.

And As I said before, if you take one of her serving sizes, and the ACTUAL calories of the portion, you'd better plan on a LOT of fasting, unless you eat spoon sized portions and do it once or twice a month.

...if I had an infectious disease, and came to your house and touched everything, but did not tell you, I would be free of any liability?

Hahahahaha are you kidding me?? Liability?? If I showed you how to load a gun, would that make me responsible if you shot someone?? Why dont you go ahead and sue Alpo because the neighbors dog crapped on your lawn!

So by your way of thinking...if I had an infectious disease, and came to your house and touched everything, but did not tell you, I would be free of any liability?

Did Paula hide her ingredients? Was it not common knowledge that the foods she prepared were high in fat, cholesterol, sodium, etc.? Was it not common knowledge that eating all of these foods regularly could lead to poor health? You would be hiding the nature of your condition and recklessly spreading your disease around, unbeknownst to me or anyone else in my household. The very nature of Paula's show was to show you EXACTLY what was going into the food she was preparing.

What Paula did was inexcusable by continuing to push her butter & sugar laden recipes without a disclaimer!

A disclaimer? It is not up to Paual Deen or anyone else to do your thinking for you! You and everyone else knows good and well that using all of that butter, sugar, lard, and salt can easily lead to health problems. Any viewer has all of the facts they need to make an informed decision. If someone chooses to eat fried cheesecake everyday and gets sick, well then boo hoo for them. We are all obligated to be smart about what we eat.

See 7.1. How was she lying? Oh my god! She has diabetes! I wonder how many of these other people on tv have diseases and doing things that their disease does not agree with.

Advertising is just saying 'pick me! Pick me!' I ignore it. I know what advertising is. I took it while I was a communications major. Advertising is aimed at the weak-minded; it aims at your emotions to your basic instincts. That is all advertising is. Only the strong-willed ignore all of it.

And what you are saying can be applied to ALL cooking shows. Every single one of them. Cooking shows aim for a theme. That is how they compete with a specific demographic. Some people are not affected by certain foods. Others are.

Dean has a moral obligation to relay to her viewers the possible effects of the food she is promoting. Especially if she herself has suffered those effects.

True, people aren't "forced" to eat her food. But funny thing about food is that it often times presented to you as "what's to eat". This has an obvious effect on humans. It normalizes our cuisine to dangerous level.

This doesn't just effect the individual. It effects our entire, groaning healthcare system

Do you think there's no correlation between cooking shows, food advertising, and obesity? Do think people were clamoring for deep-fried Twinkies and Snickers before some dip-@!$%# carney came up with that brilliant idea? Of course not. But humans are curious creatures, they want to try things. Some one does, sees it as some sort of right of passage (ahem) and then boasts about - a fad is born.

Personal responsibility goes a long way.

So does honesty, integrity, and a desire to see that what you promote doesn't harm people.

She isn't a chef, she's a lunch truck driver who figure out that the more butter and cream you slather on crap makes it taste better. What a genius.

Meanwhile the country is dying though an obesity and Type II diabetes epidemic.

Despicable and irresponsible.

Jimster, another plague is the lack of exercise.

My stepmother had type 2 diabetes. BUT had nothing to do with food. This woman ate normal sized portions, didn't eat sweets, etc. The problem? Lack of exercise. She didn't exercise.

So, while we ate the same foods that she ate and we got up and did things, exercised, etc., she did not. And that made the difference.

Dean has a moral obligation to relay to her viewers the possible effects of the food she is promoting

Why? Because we have become a society of wanting to be blameless for our actions?? I, obvious unlike othres here, am smart enough to immediatly know if something is high in fat and calories.

Because we have become a society of wanting to be blameless for our actions??

I agree with you, Paula Dean should take responsibility for her actions

All deep fried in pork fat! Mmmmmmmm.

I keep waiting for the /sarc.....good grief I hope to heavens you're not serious. I became sick to my stomach just reading your alls posts.

With a slab of country ham.......YES.....and sausages.....red eye gravy......and more bacon

rescue,

That's how I keep my slim 6'1 180 figure. I do love bacon but naturally I'm kidding :]

Truth be told my heart stopped 3 times just typing that.

Yeah, you guys keep laughing, people are suffering and dying because Dean is promoting her poisonous version of "What's to eat".

You obviously don't have anyone with diabetes or heart disease in your family.

Dean's sons are next for her diagnosis.

Way to go Paula.

Yeah, you guys keep laughing, people are suffering and dying because Dean is promoting her poisonous version of "What's to eat".

That is total BS. Paula Deen isnt shoving any food down anyone's throat. She is not lying about the ingredient in her food. She is not passing the food off as "heart healthy" of "low fat". She puts a stick of butter is just about EVERYTHING.

People are suffering because they dont eat right or exercise. Paula shares her recipes with us, and WE then CHOOSE whether we are going to eat it and in what quantity. Stop trying to pin the poor decisions of people who eat themselves into poor health on others.

Heels,

Would you take the same stance if there were a show, informing people of the different ways to commit suicide...then of course it's everyone's personal choice. How about different ways to make bombs....just to provide information....poison your spouse?....if the person decides to make poor decisions with the information, ah....too bad.

Rescue, there are BOOKS that show you how to make a bomb. Hasn't been censored yet and it won't be.

Ever heard of scarfing? I have. I never heard of it before until there was a program about sex. It is when you basically try to hang or asphyxiate yourself while masturbating in order to produce a powerful orgasm. People have died while trying to do this.

Oh, wait...crap...I guess now everyone is going to do it know that I mentioned it. Guess I'm to blame for people's choice on the matter.

I hate to admit it, because Resue is my Girl, but they do make some books like that. Oh, and I already knew about the scarfing. While it is not Paula's fault that people eat the food she cooks, she is setting a bad example cooking all of that crazy @!$%#, knowing it gave her diabetes. I love the woman myself, and I could eat that cooking all day, but I will probably find myself in an early grave too. Fact is, I believe I am cutting off those @!$%# in your pants years at the end, so it should be okay.

Jimmy, how many times do people eat her food a year? You act like people eat it ever single day.

You look at it as a bad example. Thank god that there is more than 1 cooking show out there. She is the ONLY bad example...I could care less. She has a cooking show with that demographic theme. There are quite a few bad cooking shows out there. Hell, some people don't even need a cooking show; they have their parents who cook unhealthy food all the time.

I love derby cake (where I come from, that is the name). It is LOADED with calories and it is good. How many times do I get it? Once a year if I am lucky.

rescue- i think the show you're looking for is called "1000 Ways to Die" on SpikeTV.

.... and it's hilarious!

Jkiff, hell, just read up the Darwin awards. My favorite was one that my friend told me that was on their site. 2 idiots want to sneak into a concert. One guy hops a fence and doesn't realize it's a large drop. He falls, injures himself. The other guy decides to get a rope attach one end to his truck and throw the other end to his friend. Friend ties himself up so he can be lifted. Everything starts going well until the rope gets stuck. The guy whose driving the car is trying to get lose, while the other guy is now trying to cut his way (he had a pocketknife) out of the rope. The truck must have lost control and went back (I don't know if the driver survived). Friend falls back down and lands in a bush. He looks up...and sees the truck now falling on top of him. As if that wasn't bad enough, the cops found his body, in an interesting position: A bush branch was shoved up his butt and he managed to stab himself in the leg with the pocketknife (before or after the truck fell on him is unknown).

Also, how to poison your spouse? Just pick up any chemical that has a warning label and says contact a poison control center. Add that to food/drink. There are documentaries on how killers do their kills. Hell, even newspapers report it (I still remember the Asian girl; this happened in an Asian country; who poisoned her mother's tea every day. And she would brag about it on her myspace page, the only reason why she was even caught to begin with. The mother survived.).

Heels,

Would you take the same stance if there were a show, informing people of the different ways to commit suicide...then of course it's everyone's personal choice. How about different ways to make bombs....just to provide information....poison your spouse?....if the person decides to make poor decisions with the information, ah....too bad.

All of those things are illegal. Eating poor food is not. Paula is not advocating anything that is illegal or even immoral. Nobody is going to have the law come after them for frying cheesecake.

Is that the best you've got?

You obviously have not seen my diet. Oh the humanity should be tatooed on my tummy. I am very active, so I tend to eat whatever I want. That is not always a good thing, but fried pies, and steaks will always make me happier than a salad and a long life.

Here's your bacon....you want gravy?

Here's your bacon....you want gravy

only if it was prepared in the bacon grease.

UVA
You have a degree, play a classical instrument, live in 3 countries and....

What a whore she is.

this is what you post?? Hmmmmmm

she instead cowtows to her corporate pimps.

And if your bio is correct, you have also at one time or another the secure your paycheck.

And beer.

And beer.

ever think of using guiness stout to de-glaze your pan while making your gravy for beef stew, fantastic.

i also use the guiness when making my rye bread.

beej
try a pork loin in a crockpot with Guiness. cover the loin with onion and minced garlic!

I never waste Guiness Stout like that. I love that beer! It pours like oil and is just as dark.

will have to try that loin, sounds great.

i've been making my own rub and sauce for ribs and have been thinking of trying to incorporate guiness into the sauce.

try it buckeye, try it.

by the way, GO BLUE!

buckeyenut,
I follow Julia Childs formula....a little in the pot ...alot in me! LOL

Beej
try reducing the Guiness on the stove until it has a syrup consistancy, then brush on the ribs 10 minutes before they come off the grill...WOW!!

snark, it seems as though you are saying to reduce and use in place of any other sauce. seeing that my rub has similar ingredients as my sauce, it might work great.

beej mcl,

"by the way, GO BLUE!"

Now why you gotta be all like that??? :)

I just can't bring myself to pour Guiness in pan. It just wouldn't feel right.

"i've been making my own rub and sauce for ribs and have been thinking of trying to incorporate guiness into the sauce."

The only thing getting basted with Guiness is me! Gently apply 6 pints and let stand if you still can.

actually i just live in mich, my real big 10 team is the illini.

the go blu...... well that was just for affect, no offense.

Gently apply 6 pints

would that be american or british pints, there is about a 4 oz difference. 20 oz to the pint over there.

buck
sorry, I add a tablespoon of minced garlic and a dash of rooster sauce. try the reduction as a base for your sauce and see how it works

minced garlic OH YEAH, rooster sauce??????

i'll have to research that one unless it is that sweet chili sauce they use in oriental cooking.

Enjoy your triple bypasses y'all.

...and your failed kidneys

...and your blindness

...and your amputations

...and your copays

rooster sauce??????

LOL sorry thats what we call it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sriracha_sauce

snarky, looked up the rooster sauce, yep i know what it is now for sure.

got some of the same basic sauce right here at the house.

Enjoy your triple bypasses y'all.

...and your failed kidneys

...and your blindness

...and your amputations

...and your copays

Nope, Because Im smart enough to educate myself on nutrition and not rely on a 30 minute cook!

balance in the foods prepared is the key to eating most everything without destroying your health.

balance in the foods prepared is the key to eating most everything without destroying your health.

Damn thats so Zen! Wish I had more than 1 vote!

Agreed, beej. People act like eating one small bowl of ice cream a month will give you diabetes. Why do people assume that just because you eat a junk food, you eat it all the time?

i'm gettin' hungry with all this talk, pullin' some ribs out for tomorrow.

checkmate, thanx for comin' by. we can even sneak in a trip to mc donalds or wendys once in a while. hey, they make a coconut ice cream called coconut bliss. you could double your trips for ice cream deserts with it, maybe triple.

Have you ever tried that coconut drink from Thailand called Cool Island? It's a small glass bottle with coconut bits in it. It is awesome. Super sweet, though.

haven't had that one, but i did have one similar from mexico. it was pretty good.

"You can have diabetes and have a pice of cake. You cannot have diabetes and eat a whole cake."

She summed that up pretty nicely.

Moderation & Responsibility.

BS, ALL of her recipes were super high in calories - and we're talking in the 4000-5000 range PER SERVING. Even if you ate her crap in "moderation" ONE SERVING would be enough calories to keep you going for TWO DAYS, figuring 2500 calories a day as the norm for the average adult.

Nothing beats slamming down 5000 cals and kicking back on a pillow to watch The Young and the Restless......ahhhh so good

I hate Bourdain, but I have to agree with his statement...she is a Fame Whore!

and we're talking in the 4000-5000 range PER SERVING.

exaggerate much??

http://www.pauladeen.com/recipes/

Find me ONE recipe to back up your claim!!

Um, do any of them list the number of calories, Snarky? I can tell from ingredients, but without actual numbers to back them up, some people won't believe.

cried
Ummm if your going to make such an exaggerated claim, maybe ryoushi should have some FACTS to back it up...just saying..

http://www.food.com/recipe/paula-deen-crock-pot-macaroni-and-cheese-257276
For starters, 871 is a far cry from 4000-5000, but dont let facts confuse ones self.
You can search any recipe BTW.

Heh, the first few recipes didn't have calorie counts, I guess if I looked at a lot of them I would have found some with the counts. As I said I knew they weren't as high as ryoushi said just looking at the ingredients,but I am also used to having calorie counts on my recipes.

go to the search bar on the upper right hand side and type in Paula Deen. Search recipes and there are 461 of them. On the right side of the screen is a box with all the nutrition info. After 10 recipies 871 is still the highest calorie count.

McDondals: Angus Bacon & Cheese, Large Fries, Large Coke: 1600 calories, 20.5 grams of saturated fat, 2440 mg of sodium.

But hey, nobody eats there, right?

Denny's has a sandwich that has 1690 calories. And of the 2 locations that I know of in RI, they are always crowded. Same with Applebees and TGI Friday's, which, I think, are the two that are on the list every year as the worst places to eat, calorie-wise.

Checkmate,

And people think when they go to those restaurants, they are doing the healthy thing by eating the salads. Some of the salads are even worse!

Anybody know how much that Angus Bacon and Cheese Combo costs! I just want to know if I need to run to the ATM before lunch.

snarky68 wrote:

http://www.food.com/recipe/paula-deen-crock-pot-macaroni-and-cheese-257276
For starters, 871 is a far cry from 4000-5000, but dont let facts confuse ones self.

The issue with that dish (and many of Deen's other recipes) isn't so much the calorie count, but where those calories are coming from.

That particular dish gets 58 percent of its calories from fat (53.2g), 31.9g of which is saturated fats. It's also loaded with cholesterol and sodium.

It's hard to argue that Deen's stuff is good for you.

Thanks for the recipe Dennis.

Jimmy the Goon wrote:

Thanks for the recipe Dennis.

Thank snarky68. S/he's the one who posted it.

Thanks snarky68. Thank you to Dennis for re-linking it. I wonder if I can add bacon to that.

I'll bet it'd be good topped with Fried Butter Balls.

Don't forget a cigarette or two after you're finished.

I would actually wash it down with a whiskey and coke, before retiring to the porch for Brandy and Cigars. I am civilized!

When it comes to her famous Southern recipes, Deen said she wouldn't change her ways entirely, but preached moderation.

"People see me cooking all these wonderful, Southern, fattening recipes... it's for entertainment," Deen said. "People have to be responsible."

Appears so!

She added: 'On my show I share with you all these yummy, fattening recipes, but I tell people, "in moderation". I've always eaten in moderation.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2087856/Paula-Deen-reveals-Type-2-diabetes.html#ixzz1jlMhItGs

Again.

And where the first quote is from, there is also this:

What do diabetes experts have to say?

"To my knowledge no particular food has been linked to an increase in the risk of diabetes," Dr. Linda Siminerio, director of the diabetes institute at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, told MSNBC. "It's being overweight and inactive."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57360118-10391704/paula-deens-type-2-diabetes-is-her-cooking-to-blame/

How can anyone defend this person?

Show me one person FORCED to eat her food, then I will agree with you. Thats the biggest problem with society today, always wanting to blame someone for your own actions!

To my knowledge no particular food has been linked to an increase in the risk of diabetes

lets try any food (not a particular food) which produces high serum lipids and triglycerides is consistently linked to an increase in risk of diabetes.

I can defend her and I will.

If someone is so stupid as to be led around, beleiving everything that comes out fo the idiot box, then they will likely die of a disease called stupdidty, for which there is no cure.

If you are intelligent enough to make your own decisions, then its really no one's business.

Heading off to her website to buy something in support.

Any other slimy, evil, people care to join me?

People, you are acting like she is Dick Chenney. Get a grip!

rescue,

My uncle was a doctor, rode a bike and exercised fairly regularly and died of a massive heart attack.His youngest brother drinks like a fish, smokes and eats what he wants and has never had a heart problem. The reality is when it's your time, it's your time. I'm not going to live life worrying about what's going to kill me. I prefer to live life and if that means eating things that are not good for me, I'm doing it. Something to remember people don't put a gun to a person's head and force them to eat.

Agreed, buckeye. My family knew a woman who had all these problems. Bone problems, can't eat certain foods, headaches, multiple surgeries done, etc.. She was in her forties. She was the nightmare: had over 15 different doctors that she saw regularly and was taking prescriptions like it was candy. Her husband was 5 years younger, healthy as hell, vegetarian, non-smoker, non-drinker (wife didn't smoke, but she drank). We used to see him running all over the place. Then one day he died of a heart attack. Everyone was shocked. We all expected her to go first.

Genetics, exercise and weight...these are the the ONLY factors that are the cause of diabetes.

Rachel,

Not quite-- some medications for other conditions (for example some high blood pressure medications and corticosteroids) contribute to insulin resistance, which can lead to type II diabetes. Stress hormones increase blood sugar, so people under chronic stress are at higher risk for type II diabetes. People who have hormonal diseases such as hyperthyroidism are at higher risk.

The predisposition still has to be there.

My husband has hyperthyroidism and has had since 1975. He has no signs of diabetes at all, and no family history of the disease.

He's also been on high blood pressure meds since 2003.

Chronic stress can be resolved by exercise, again, three things that actually lead to the development.

stress

the #1 cause of disease and death. and the biggest problem is that so many people have no idea as how to recognizing the type and level of stress that can kill them in the long run. as you say rachel, exercise is an excellent way to alleviate it. when stress elevates to anger with the situation peoples health starts taking a downturn. it sends me back to a statement i read once, "stinkin' thinkin' causes hardening of the attitude". -zig zigler-

attitude can make a hell-a-va difference.

Rachel,

I did not say hyperthyroidism and blood pressure medications ALWAYS lead to diabetes; they are just examples when exercise, diet, and weight are not the only contributing factors. I think we have to be very careful about using words like "the only factors that cause diabetes" when there are more than just those 3. People have used words like always, never, only, etc, a lot in this thread when they don't apply.

lol I can understand what you mean, but... My brother had a stroke about a year and an half ago. He used to love watching Paula Deen (he still does). He ended up having to live here with me for some four months straight. No work, eating what I cooked. He lost some 50+ Lbs (cost a lot to add an extra person into the budget). Thank goodness he's still with us (not literally he's got his own place$$). There was only one person who made him eat like he had been... himself. Did it before he ever heard of her.

Why would she let them go on believing that her recipes were healthy? I guess the word "healthy" never came into the equation

Why would anyone believe that anything on that show is healthy? Really?! Someone would have to be a full blown idiot to believe that.

There's no telling how many people who went into pre-diabetes or full blown. No, she didn't push the food down their throats, but a lot of people are always looking for permission to eat like that.

Looking for permission to eat terrible food all of the time from the lady on the TV? What ever happened to personal responsibility? You choose what you eat, how much, and how often. People will eat what they want no matter if Paula Deen told them to or not.

Her diabetes is a personal issue. I would not share my health history with the public and she has absolutely no obligation to do so. It is no one's business. And don't you think that most of the people who watch her shows and buy her books have enough sense to know that her food is not low fat?

Well Darrah, some of us do "talk like that" so I guess it is good that you are not within hearing distance.

She never made a claim that her food was low fat or low in sugar. And if people required her show to give them "permission " to eat unhealthy food, then they must be very stupid. And there is no cure for stupid. These are the same people that eat fast food every day. I really don't think that one cooking show makes the entire population obese.

Now, I am going downstairs to have some of that great high fat pot roast that I cooked yesterday and I am going to make a big pan of brownies. Paula Deen is not in my house at the moment and I don't own any of her cookbooks. But perhaps, via telepathy, she is making me do these things.

Let me preface by saying I may be speaking out of turn here.

RNDiane, I am sure Darrah, knows that some do talk like that, its more like disagreeing with the perpetuation of a stereotype. All television people put on their roles (or in Deen's case rolls lol), Deen's TV personality (and maybe real life personality) is a stereotype that is offensive to many. I can think of many other "personalities" that people sometimes put on that may be offensive to others. I don't know for sure, but I feel that this is what Darrah is most strongly objecting to, and secondarily to the menu items (again perpetuating a stereotype of fat ignorant people, which most in the south are emphatically not).

HeelsnHairMetal, when you said "Looking for permission to eat terrible food all of the time from the lady on the TV?" can you not believe that people do this? look at all the people who follow anything their favorite celebrities do! Though I can agree with you in that you ask what happened to personal responsibility, there are too many (as Darrah implies) that will do it (eat like Deen cooks) just because a TV personality does it.

Oh, and in my post 12.1 I mispoke, his stroke was about 7 years, his heart attack was what was only about a year and an half ago.

I don't agree with you. I am going to eat my pot roast now.

RNDiane, what don't you agree with? That it is a stereotype that southerners are fat ignorant people? That doesn't seem right to me. Is it that she (Deen) puts on a TV personality? I'm okay with that, it may be her actual personality, and not a fake accent after all. That no-one finds her stereotype personality on TV is offensive? Obviously you are incorrect there. If you are not specific, I am afraid I cannot accept your comments, just a blanket "I don't agree with you. I am going to eat my pot roast now." without specifics doesn't say any more than the child who sticks his/her fingers in the ears and starts saying "NANANANANANANAICANTHEARYOU"

Enjoy your pot roast.

cried: you don't have to accept my comments. Free speech honey!!

I understand that I was just asking what you don't agree with, is that too much to ask? I want to understand, as you can see I made several different points.

... or should I stop feeding you.

IMO, if she really cared about her fans, she would have let them know about her diabetes. Why would she let them go on believing that her recipes were healthy?'

Really? You need someone to tell you that a stick of butter in one recipe may be unhealthy? Seriously. Perhaps the problem here is that Paula Dean didn't recommend a brain transplant if people thought her food was "healthy" before this announcement.

We all have to die sometime. I'd rather die eating what tastes good than some vegan-fied cardboard bean crap. Thanks.

I have to agree with Apples on this. Pretty much any recipe that calls for a stick of butter has just skedaddled out of the health food realm. LOL!

Jeff,

I do not want anyone policing my kitchen any more than I want someone policing my bedroom

No one's policing anything, we are expressing our disgust regarding her hypocrisy. If you would gladly "kiss her ring" perhaps you're the one who needs to grow up.

Thank you Jeff
Its time people start being responsible for their OWN ACTIONS!!

Rescue dogs62:

Its called a figure of speech. An attempt at a humorous image. Now tell me who is uptight.

As for the hypocricy, there was none. NONE.

Do car commercials tell you you can be killed? Cruise line commercials? Lets get those beer commercials off the air right away. Sue those Clydesdale's. Has the NFL confessed what it is doing to brains, spines, etc. of its players? I think not. Yet no one is screaming to shut down the NFL, or football for young people.

Shall we level a forest with a list of companies that produce products that are harmful to us and the environment?

Yet we have the time, and the nerve, to pick on a delightful, cheerful woman that makes good tasting food. Bite me. Better yet, bite her food. It tastes better.

Come to think of it, cooking with fire is hazardous. Lets stop that too.

My my my, maybe we need to go back to caves.

Have we gotten to the point that we have this deep seeded fear that someone, somewhere, might be happy, doing what they want to do, and harming no one else?

If i did not see that people were taking this seriously, I would be laughing at this absurdity.

Don't you know honey child! I can't stand it either. We're not that damn bad in SC! lol

Same. That and I heard that she did a luther (if that was the spelling) burger once. I knew what a luther burger was way before she appeared on tv and I back away from it.

Part of my anger is because she played up the old south thing for everything it's worth, as if people still eat that way. I don't know of anyone who does.

It just gets too warm and cozy with that white Aunt Jamima caricature of hers. I'm sure a lot of people feel like rolling into bed after the show and having Miss Paula tuck them into bed and cover them up.

Oh wait sweetheart, here's some of my apple dupplins' and vaniller ice cream! Now go back to sleep, suga. ;-);-)

Guilty as charged on that angle of this debate. i love watching her. Warm fuzzies. Oh yeah, i can see being tucked in to bed with a tummy full of apple dumplings.

Something i have noticed about southerners (and Texans). Political barriers, all kinds of barriers, drop away when a table is set with a wonderful meal. I've seen bitter enemies behave like total gentlemen. We take our food seriously.

Is it really such a bad thing?

Darrah, some people are like that. I remember there was an Italian cook who had her own show and cooked everything in olive oil. Not a little; A LOT. I know olive oil is healthy for you, but the amount was ridiculous. You might as well have poured yourself a glass or 2 of the stuff and drink it; you were going to eat the same amount in her food.

Now, my aunt, you prepared yourself for carbs. That was how she cooked. This woman would go through 8-11 loaves of bread a week, by herself. She wasn't fat at all. Her reasoning: lived through the depression and most people ate a lot of bread during that time and it stuck ever since. That and always offer food for guests, family, etc. if they visit.

Food has always been a way to celebrate and to drop barriers. The ritual goes all the way back to the cave days.

I'm just thinking of this young guy who was on Oprah. He must have been a pre-teen and he was a bit overweight. He adored Paula Deen. His goal in life was to meet her. And guess who had her there just awaiting to pinch his cheek? Oprah brought Paula out. Ok, that was good. It probably made his life. But what about him growing up and seeing her as a role model?

So kids are watching her too. And there's A LOT of obesity in children.

Darrah, how many of these kids are watching their fat parents as role models?

Ok, he adored Paula Deen...but what exactly? Her looks? Did she look like someone that he knew when he was little. Is it her nature, etc.?

I knew someone who loved the Two Fat Ladies. Not because of their looks or their food, but because of their attitudes.

Of course he watches Paula because of her recipes and maybe her personality too.

Maybe he wants to be a chef. If so, I hope his recipes are healthier.

Note that the carbs are all processed nasty stuff, not whole grains. White bread might as well BE sugar.

Could be anything: lack of exercise, their own choices of a poor diet, genetics (in that case, you're screwed because it is hereditary). So, if we knock out the last one because you were born with it and it wasn't your fault; lack of exercise and poor diet.

People would rather blame everyone/anything else other than themselves. Reminds me of the moron teenager who blamed videogames after he shot his parents because he thought that they would respawn and that death wasn't final.

liv2barlrac wrote:

Can you seriously tell me that any reasonably informed adult would think butter, heavy cream, and sugar are good for you? I think most people know these things are bad.

I've got to agree there. That's exactly why I avoid that type of cooking. There are plenty of much healthier alternatives that are just as tasty.

Anyone who doesn't understand that a recipe for four that has a pound of butter and a quart of heavy cream isn't going to extend your life needs to have someone else cook for them.

Incidentally, I don't care for Deen's line of cookware either. :)

Incidentally, I don't care for Deen's line of cookware either. :)

Me neither! Received two knives with her name on them as the "sneaky santa" gift at the folks house on Christmas. Cut my dang finger with the large one..yup, I hold it personally against Paula...lol!!

Myself, I just use my old Revere Ware (made in USA, not China) and my USA Corning Ware.

@Dennis-

People will never cease to amaze me! Most of the time I cook and eat very healthy. I have stomach problems that prevent me from eating all of the high fat greasy stuff most of the time. We also rarely eat out, so every now and then I just can't resist the urge to use more butter! A balanced lifestyle is really the key.

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Myself, I just use my old Revere Ware (made in USA, not China) and my USA Corning Ware.

That old Revere Ware is some venerable stuff.

I still use Corningware for microwave applications, but for conventional cooking, I use mostly All-Clad (and some of the Sur la Table All-Clad knockoffs) and Le Creuset.

liv2barlrac wrote:

so every now and then I just can't resist the urge to use more butter!

Indeed, sometimes there's just no substitute for real butter, but I've found that in most applications, the butter can be cut to a minimum and combined with some combination of olive or canola oil and still have plenty of the buttery flavor.

We also rarely eat out,

I hear that. It's really difficult for me to eat out. Most of the reasonably priced restaurants serve *way* too damned much over-salted goop, although there are a few mom-and-pop ethnic places that do a good job of avoiding the formula junk. And, I worked in fast food when I was in school, and they're just nutritional toxic waste sites. Plus I really enjoy cooking, and I buy/cook/freeze in bulk, which is a lot cheaper.

I agree. The timing looks very bad for her part. If she'd disclosed her condition much earlier, then the general public wouldn't feel like this was just an opportunistic move to let it out now. The part about her being a spokesperson for the drug? Well, that was just the icing on the cake (pardon the pun).