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They're back: Social issues overtake US politics

Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:53 AM EST
politics, us, culture
Laurie Kellman, Associated Press

In this Feb. 7, 2012, photo, Karen Handel speaks during an interview in Atlanta. All of a sudden, abortion, contraception and gay marriage are at the center of American political discourse, with the struggling — though improving — economy pushed to the background. Social issues don’t usually dominate the discussion in shaky economies. But they do raise emotions important to factors like voter turnout. Then, as the GOP nomination fight churned with no resolution in sight, the economy began to grow. Unemployment rates dipped. And a cascade of cultural political developments inspired a new set of talking points for the year’s crop of political hopefuls such as supporters of Planned Parenthood, which provides abortion services, helped force the resignation of Susan G. Komen For the Cure executive Handel after the breast cancer research group cut grants to the organization, then reversed course. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

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WASHINGTON — All of a sudden, abortion, contraception and gay marriage are at the center of American political discourse, with the struggling — though improving — economy pushed to the background.

Social issues don't typically dominate the discussion in shaky economies. But they do raise emotions important to factors like voter turnout. And they can be key tools for political candidates clamoring for attention, campaign cash or just a change of subject in an election year.

"The public is reacting to what it's hearing about," said Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center. In a political season, he said, "when the red meat is thrown out there, the politicians are going to go after it."

The economy still tops the list of voters' concerns and probably will still shape this presidential election. For now, at least, the culture wars of the 1990s are back. It's not clear which party will benefit because the same group of voters that opposes abortion might split over gay marriage or whether cancer research should be immune from politics. And it's not yet known to what extent, if at all, social issues will influence voters on Election Day.

Jobs, jobs, jobs — it's been the governing mantra of both parties since the economic bust of 2008, through President Barack Obama's sweeping overhaul of health insurance and the 2010 elections that returned control of the House to Republicans. Since then, voters have turned angry while remaining anxious over the economy's crawl toward stability. Republicans have been keen to blame the slow-motion progress on Obama in their drive to deny him a second term.

Then, as the GOP nomination fight churned with no resolution in sight, the economy began to grow. Unemployment rates dipped. And a cascade of cultural political developments inspired a new set of talking points for the year's crop of political hopefuls:

_Supporters of Planned Parenthood, which provides abortion services, helped force the resignation of Susan G. Komen For the Cure executive Karen Handel after the breast cancer research group cut grants to the organization, then reversed course.

_Catholic bishops began sparring with the White House over a new requirement that Catholic-affiliated institutions such as hospitals and schools must provide insurance coverage for birth control for their employees even though the church opposes artificial contraception. On Friday, Obama announced an update to the policy. Under the change, religious employers will not have to cover birth control for their employees. The government, instead, will demand that insurance companies be directly responsible for providing contraception.

_A federal appeals court in California struck down the state's gay marriage ban, prompting criticism from the Republican presidential candidates and others who charged that unelected judges were overruling the will of voters.

For both parties, social policy puts key constituencies at stake. Republicans are courting the religious conservatives that populate their base, including Catholics in battleground states like Ohio and Pennsylvania. Obama, meanwhile, is trying to preserve support among women, moderates and independents.

Wednesday was a key pivot point.

Hours after GOP presidential hopeful Rick Santorum won all three states holding votes Tuesday night and stalled Mitt Romney's modest winning streak, congressional leaders issued tightly coordinated statements on another subject: The White House's policy on birth control coverage was a government mandate that threatens religious freedom and violates the Constitution.

In a floor speech rare for a speaker of the House, Ohioan John Boehner, a Catholic, accused the administration of undermining some of the country's most vital institutions, such as Catholic charities, schools and hospitals. He demanded that Obama rescind the policy and pledged that Congress would if Obama didn't.

"This attack by the federal government on religious freedom in our country cannot stand, and will not stand," Boehner said.

Across the Capitol, one rising star made clear the matter was a starkly political issue in the year's presidential and congressional elections.

"We have plenty of other issues to take to the American people throughout the year and in the November elections. This doesn't have to be one of them," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said in English. As he often does, Rubio repeated his statement in Spanish — an effort to make sure Hispanic voters in Florida and beyond, many of them Catholic, got the message.

But where Republicans cast the White House's contraception policy as an assault on the freedom of religion itself, Democrats argued for the preservation of affordable birth control for women. The White House circulated letters from women's groups defending the policy and signaled on Tuesday that a compromise was possible.

Former Obama aide Jen Psaki suggested the uproar was due in part to the GOP nomination fight, noting that the administration's directive requiring church-affiliated employers to cover birth control for their employees was based on a policy used by many states.

"Where has the outrage been up to now?" Psaki said.

On the presidential campaign trail, the GOP candidates competing for conservative votes presented themselves as foes of any efforts to remove religion and morals from public discourse. Some described those efforts in the language of war.

Romney, a Mormon, is embracing social issues in a way he hasn't to this point in the campaign as he fends off threats from two challengers. The Obama administration, he says, is waging "an assault on religion."

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Catholic, says Democrats have "declared war on the Catholic Church."

Santorum's resurgence has coincided with the surge in controversy over social issues. During a two-day sprint through Oklahoma and Texas, he used the marriage and contraception rulings on the two coasts to raise broader concerns that the courts and the Obama administration are "trying to shutter faith" and "push it out of the public square."

"They are taking faith and crushing it," he told a Texas rally Wednesday. "When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights, then what's left?"

It's powerful rhetoric, to be sure. But interviews Thursday with nearly two dozen attendees of the Conservative PAC convention in Washington produced remarkably similar sentiments: Even the most conservative voter cares most about the nation's fiscal health.

"I really think this election will turn on the economy," said Tina Katcheves, 38, a patent attorney from Howard County, Md.

___

Associated Press writers Brian Bakst, Charles Babington and Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report.

© 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Jake-413451

All of a sudden?

Okay, can we please just stop making crap up. It is things like this that cause people to not trust journalists

Gay Marriage has been a focal point of politics for, what, the past decade or so?

Abortion, why it's only come up in every single presidential election since, what, 1970's? Oct 13, 1980, economy wasn't doing that hot. Oh look a story whose focus is the candidates positions on abortion.

Seriously, all of a sudden? When did those stop being issues for them to suddenly become issues again?

  • 18 votes
#2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:43 AM EST
TomTom-72

"The public is reacting to what it's hearing about," said Andrew Kohut....

And who determines what the public will hear about? The Associated Press; Reuters; Haaretz, etc?

  • 10 votes
#2.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:38 AM EST
drummerboy2011

All of a sudden, abortion, contraception and gay marriage are at the center of American political discourse, with the struggling — though improving — economy pushed to the background.

Of course they are, it's election time and Obama needs those liberal voters. He certainly can't run on 9% unemployment and 46% approval ratings.

  • 11 votes
#2.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:51 AM EST
Wizeguy

Last time I looked UE was at 8.3% and falling ....46% is almost 5 times that of the GOP led Congress.....

Yes there are people that thing the GOP can fix the economy but the word "fix" means "rig" the economy with the same house of cards they built from 2000 to 2006...the rich mans Utopia he gets to keep what you earned for him....

  • 18 votes
#2.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:03 AM EST
BostonMan-3128434

Last time I looked UE was at 8.3% and falling

You do realize the unemployment number went down becasue more people are losing benefits and leaving the workforce right?

As Burnett explains, the jobs report only includes Americans who have been actively searching for a job in the last month–but there are many more who've quit looking out of frustration. "There's several million people who are truly disenfranchised," says Burnett. As the labor market improves, those people will start looking again–and that will cause the unemployment numbers to pop up. "Even though it's going down now, at some point...it actually needs to go up."

http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/03/erin-burnett-despite-jobs-report-unemployment-needs-to-go-up-again/

  • 4 votes
#2.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:11 AM EST
drummerboy2011Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Okay so you wanna fight over seven tenths of a percent? Good Grief.

46% is almost 5 times that of the GOP led Congress.....

Who gives a @!$%# about what the approval rating is for Congress, I'm talking about OBAMA, not Congress.

That wasn't even a good try at deflecting from the point. 46% approval with such a HIGH unemployment rate in an election year for the president is NOT GOOD.

The rest of your bull@!$%# comment doesn't deserve an answer because it's simply more finger pointing. Obama is 3 years plus into his term, time for him to step up to the plate and for all you Obama worshipers to stop pointing fingers everywhere else.

  • 7 votes
#2.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:12 AM EST
BostonMan-3128434

46% is almost 5 times that of the GOP led Congress....

And that of the Dem led Senate right? Did you forget that or intentionally leave that out?

  • 8 votes
#2.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:12 AM EST
WizeguyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I sure know how th push them buttons...no go get your friggin shine box....

  • 4 votes
#2.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:15 AM EST
drummerboy2011

Don't confuse them with facts BostonMan, they'll just blame Bush.

  • 9 votes
#2.8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:15 AM EST
drummerboy2011

I sure know how th push them buttons...no go get your friggin shine box....

So instead of refuting the facts, you simply and very clearing admit to trolling, not to mention throwing out racial slurs?

Thanks for clearing that up, reported.

  • 8 votes
#2.9 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:17 AM EST
Wizeguy

I've dealt with BM before don't know who you are but report away....

I'm out of here got to go out a hug a few trees before the GOP outlaws them...

  • 12 votes
#2.10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:21 AM EST
mrsrachelm

Wow, nice racist comment there, Wizeguy.

These issues have been issues for a long long time. And no, no one has forgotten for minute about the HUGE dive the economy has taken under Obama. The so-called improvement is all smoke and mirrors which does a very careful dance with statistics and most of us know it.

  • 4 votes
#2.11 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:25 AM EST
drummerboy2011

I've dealt with BM before don't know who you are but report away....

Funny you claim to have dealt with BM yet you conveniently dodge the fact presented inhis comments. You call that "dealing with"? I call it copping out.

  • 6 votes
#2.12 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:32 AM EST
Smith Cassidy

drummerboy2011

Of course they are, it's election time and Obama needs those liberal voters. He certainly can't run on 9% unemployment and 46% approval ratings.

That's a joke, yes? Those issues are important to the 'right'. You know, the people who like to tell other people what they are allowed to do in their bedrooms and with their bodies.

If you believe that is "liberals", I think you need to go back and read Ideologies 101, cause you aren't getting it.

  • 14 votes
#2.13 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:38 AM EST
Smith Cassidy

And no, no one has forgotten for minute about the HUGE dive the economy has taken under Obama.

That's not reality.

But seriously, what's the weather like where you live?

  • 13 votes
#2.14 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:39 AM EST
BostonMan-3128434

What he meant was i have presented facts to him before which he conveniently ignores and instead calls me a troll or a racist- You get used to that type of behavior from some liberals on here -

  • 5 votes
#2.15 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:39 AM EST
Smith Cassidy

drummerboy2011
Don't confuse them with facts BostonMan, they'll just blame Bush.

Yes, because the worst president in recent history has had no impact on where we are as a country right now.

I got news for you, if you believe GWB is blameless, then you can't drop anything on Obama.

  • 15 votes
#2.16 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:41 AM EST
Wizeguy

% Wow, nice racist comment there, Wizeguy

Obvious you have not seen the movie.....

You call that "dealing with"? I call it copping out.

Deal with what your distortion of the facts.....you my friend stated "9%" UE rate so I pointed out the true and factual rate that was disputed with some GOP talking point....That congress now has a 10% apporval rating is and I did use the word "almost" which was wrong it is exactly 5 times...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

I

  • 10 votes
#2.17 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:45 AM EST
Smith Cassidy

46% approval with such a HIGH unemployment rate in an election year for the president is NOT GOOD.

Who the @!$%# cares? 46% can win him a second term in the White House, especially when the Republicans are opposing Obama with such beauties as Mitter, Newter, and Baby in a Jar Man...after having weeded out crazyass Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Trump, etc.

That's just too funny, ripping on Obama when the Republican candidates are, quite literally, one of the worst possible collections any could imagine.

Seriously, Republicans had BACHMANN as a serious presidential candidate. End of story! LMAO

  • 15 votes
#2.18 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:45 AM EST
BorncornExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

You do realize the unemployment number went down becasue more people are losing benefits and leaving the workforce right?

You right wingnuts realize that the same statistics were used when the rate was going up, don't you? Sure didn't hear you whining about it then.

  • 9 votes
#2.19 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:46 AM EST
drummerboy2011

Yes, because the worst president in recent history has had no impact on where we are as a country right now.

Cite Bush's numbers at this time in his first term and compare them with Obama's.

I got news for you, if you believe GWB is blameless, then you can't drop anything on Obama.

And I've got news for YOU, if you'd do a little homework before assuming things about people you wouldn't end up with your foot in your mouth. Go read my comment history and you'll find out exactly how I feel about Bush and it isn't pretty I assure you.

  • 5 votes
#2.20 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:47 AM EST
drummerboy2011

You right wingnuts realize

You can't have a conversation without name calling and throwing out personal attacks?

  • 7 votes
#2.21 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:48 AM EST
Smith Cassidy

Cite Bush's numbers at this time in his first term and compare them with Obama's.

Irrelevent.

Cite GWB's numbers from the beginning of his presidency up to the day he left the White House, let me know what you find. Additionally, GWB was still directly involved up until his budget expired, and indirectly involved til this day.

And I've got news for YOU, if you'd do a little homework before assuming things about people you wouldn't end up with your foot in your mouth. Go read my comment history and you'll find out exactly how I feel about Bush and it isn't pretty I assure you.

Fair enough.

  • 6 votes
#2.22 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST
mrsrachelm

You can't have a conversation without name calling and throwing out personal attacks?

Look who you're asking, drummer? That answers the question right off the bat.

  • 4 votes
#2.23 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:54 AM EST
GaryColumbus

If Republicans didn't have issues like these, that they bring up every national election, to fall back on. How else do you propose for conservatives to get their constituents to the polls? It's just a damn shame that evangelicals continue to eat from the rotted tree!

  • 7 votes
#2.24 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:58 AM EST
BostonMan-3128434

You right wingnuts realize that the same statistics were used when the rate was going up, don't you? Sure didn't hear you whining about it then.

Wingnuts? Can you make one post without immature name calling?

I posted a link to CNN - Is that some right wing outlet all of a sudden ?

  • 4 votes
#2.25 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST
Borncorn

.

  • 3 votes
#2.26 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM EST
Thinknaboutit

I can't think of a single issue that the GOP has the upper hand on. They've painted themselves into a corner with their "hate this" and "hate that". It is nearly impossible for humans to adhere to all of their "issues" and as more people are coming to this realization, the GOP is becoming a non-issue.

  • 9 votes
#2.27 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM EST
Borncorn

Can you make one post without immature name calling?

I do comment without immature name calling quite often, when I'm responding to mature comments.

  • 7 votes
#2.28 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:32 AM EST
insight-122112

46% approval and 8.3% unemployment is not good for the President. But it is Bush's fault. You can try to ignore Bush'e legacy, but you cannot hide it. Obama stopped the economy from sliding into depression, and for that he gets my vote. And he did it with McConnell filibustering everything in sight.

  • 7 votes
#2.29 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:39 AM EST
Marshall James

this is just manufactured by the propaganda machine to distract from the real issues.

the destruction of our rights and endless war.

  • 7 votes
#2.30 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:42 AM EST
RI Mom

TOPIC:

Social issues overtake US politics

The GOP has found an ally with churches to just LECTURE voters on morals.

The "do as I say, not as I " do kick-off to elections is fueled by the media who force us to watch BBC for WORLD NEWS that affects our economy, health, safety and environmental issues.

  • 5 votes
#2.31 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:45 AM EST
Leiya123

Wizeguy says:

"I've dealt with BM before don't know who you are but report away....
I'm out of here got to go out a hug a few trees before the GOP outlaws them..."

Make sure you bring your 'Huggies', 'Depends' work well too. Hee-he! Just kidding!

  • 2 votes
#2.32 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:47 AM EST
Wizeguy

Boxers or briefs??? At my age Depends....LOL :))

    #2.33 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST
    BostonMan-3128434

    I do comment without immature name calling quite often, when I'm responding to mature comments.

    Oh so a comment with a link to a CNN article is not mature? Sorry born but that is just not true -You reply with immature name calling when presented with opinions that you do not agree with

    • 3 votes
    #2.34 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:54 AM EST
    Arieus

    All of a sudden, abortion, contraception and gay marriage are at the center of American political discourse, with the struggling — though improving — economy pushed to the background.

    It's a tool used by politicians to manipulate and distract the people from the real issues at hand. corrupt politicians and government is what should be the the top stories, not social issues. What one does in their own home is their business and no one elses.

    Te American people are being HOODWINKED once again by these politicians. Stay focused o what's important, not what the media and politicians want you to think is important.

    Gay people do not make people gay. If that were the case, then we all would be gay by now.

    Women's rights are at stake. This is not about religious freedom. It's about taking away the rights of women's freedom to do whatever with their own body. No man, nor church, no government should have control over your body or mind.

    REVOLUTION 2012

    • 2 votes
    #2.35 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:55 AM EST
    Rational Brent

    Ever notice that when liberals talk about low congressional approval numbers, they always forget that the Senate's run by Democrats?

    • 5 votes
    #2.36 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:00 AM EST
    Rational Brent

    Arius, we tried your REVOLUTION in 2008. Didn't like it in 2010 and won't in 2012.

    • 4 votes
    #2.37 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST
    Wizeguy

    Ever notice that when liberals talk about low congressional approval numbers, they always forget that the Senate's run by Democrats?

    and we are thankful for that so most of the fruit loopy ideas coming from the overwhelmingly GOP House Of Reps gets stopped at the gate....

    Here is the overwhelming majority of Dem Senators....wow 51 to 47 with 2 so called indies...

    112th Congress (2011-2013)
    Majority Party: Democrat (51 seats)
    Minority Party: Republican (47 seats)
    Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat

    • 3 votes
    #2.38 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:16 AM EST
    Thinknaboutit

    RB I have noticed that conservatives like to point fingers at the Senate when discussing the low congressional approval numbers. I wonder why they don't talk about the fact that congressional approval numbers were higher when there were more democrats in congress and Pelosi was running the show in the house?

    • 3 votes
    #2.39 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:17 AM EST
    Leiya123

    Wizeguy

    You're a good sport. I like that!

    • 2 votes
    #2.40 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST
    BostonMan-3128434

    RB I have noticed that conservatives like to point fingers at the Senate when discussing the low congressional approval numbers. I wonder why they don't talk about the fact that congressional approval numbers were higher when there were more democrats in congress and Pelosi was running the show in the house?

    You guys brought up the favorability ratings of Congress on here did you not? (see post 2.17)

    And did you know the favorability rating when Pelosi left congress was only around 13% ?

    That is what you are talking about with Pelosi ?

    • 3 votes
    #2.41 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:48 AM EST
    BostonMan-3128434

    Here is the overwhelming majority of Dem Senators....wow 51 to 47 with 2 so called indies...

    Who said overwhelming- The fact is the ratings for Congress apply to both parties in both houses - Some of you liberals like to ignore that fact when throwing out the approval rating of congress

    • 3 votes
    #2.42 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:52 AM EST
    LassenPark

    B.M., you're a particular font of misinformation this morning, outdoing even your usual production. There are polls that break down congressional approval by party and it appears that Republicans are the ones really dragging the institution down. Polls over the last few months show that Dems have around a 10 point edge on Reps. Here's the link to the polls on Reps and from there you can go to the Dem polls for comparison:

    http://pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm

    • 3 votes
    #2.43 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:04 AM EST
    TooManyPuppies

    YEs suddenly.. sure gay marriage has been in politics for years, but the GOP for the most part put social conservative issues in the back seat. 2010 was nothing but jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs. Yall just love to cry foul at everything. Like it or not in reality the message the conservatives have been pushing was the economy stinks. WHEN ALL ECONOMIC NUMBERS STARTED TO RISE, they switched gears. Denying reality doesnt make it any less real.

    COngress hit a record of 10% after the GOP took the house. The last time the record was set was in 2006 when the GOP had both houses and were thrown out.

    Polls show most voters including 20% of goprs want Obama to lead the country over a generic GOPrs

    The GOP have also set records, for lowest turnouts in primaries.

    AND NO UE HAS ACTUALLY CAME DOWN, IF YOU DO NOT TRUST THE GOVERNMENTS NUMBERS, YOU CAN LOOK AT GALLUP, WHO DOES IT:S OWN POLLING. YES the U3 the government reports does not include people who drop out of the work force, but the good news for you the u4 through u6 DO COUNT THE PEOPLE WHO DROPPED OUT and they are all down as well.

    Which is one reason why the DOW is soaring.

    Consumer spending is up.

    job openings are the highest we have seen since 2007

    credit is up

    and new housing construction is up

    and home sales are up.

    all these reasons are why the right switched to bashing gays again.AS A MAIN EVENT.

    and all these reasons are why the right are going to lose again.

    Heck yall cant even get behind a candidate for office.

    who is it going to be newt with his 20 wives? mister 13% taxes who doesnt think much of the poor but wants to cut his taxes in half? or the uber religious guy who wants to put us all on christian sharia law?

    • 2 votes
    #2.44 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:06 AM EST
    Thinknaboutit

    Heck yall cant even get behind a candidate for office.

    They are all trying to get behind Santorum now, but I think that's just to see for themselves if the internet rumor is true.

      #2.45 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:11 AM EST
      BostonMan-3128434

      B.M., you're a particular font of misinformation this morning, outdoing even your usual production. There are polls that break down congressional approval by party and it appears that Republicans are the ones really dragging the institution down. Polls over the last few months show that Dems have around a 10 point edge on Reps. Here's the link to the polls on Reps and from there you can go to the Dem polls for comparison:

      And as usual you are cherry picking your "info " to try and suit your argument -

      Did you notice that poll you referenced ( CBS) shows a 26 % apporoval for Dems and a 19% approval for Republicans -

      So how it it the Congress has only a 10% approval rating yet neither party is below 19% favorability ?

      You are picking different polls to try and make your argument- Try sticking to one maybe in the future and you will have more credibility

      • 1 vote
      #2.46 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:11 AM EST
      BostonMan-3128434

      Here is something you might not like though lessen -

      More States Move to GOP in 2011

      Seventeen states solidly or leaning Republican, up from 10 in 2010

      PRINCETON, NJ -- Democrats have lost their solid political party affiliation advantage in 18 states since 2008, while Republicans have gained a solid advantage in 6 states. A total of 17 states were either solidly Republican or leaning Republican in their residents' party affiliation in 2011, up from 10 in 2010 and 5 in 2008. Meanwhile, 19 states including the District of Columbia showed a solid or leaning Democratic orientation, down from 23 in 2010 and 36 in 2008. The remaining 15 states were relatively balanced politically, with neither party having a clear advantage.

      http://www.gallup.com/poll/152438/States-Move-GOP-2011.aspx

      • 4 votes
      #2.47 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:15 AM EST
      John Bayner

      Too much to read on this lazy Friday, so drummerboy and BM did you find your shinebox.

        #2.48 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:20 AM EST
        Glo25420

        The Party of No Idea's - except of course, tax breaks for the rich, attended a few mandatory Koch Brothers retreats and were given their marching orders. Steal American rights to make a few extra bucks for their corporate benefactors. These include: overturning hard won environmental standards that protect our water and air from industry pollution, attack the right of workers to a fair shake in the workplace, and oppose equal pay for equal work for women. With the help of Right Wing Propaganda Central FOX duping the dumbasses, and their funding as an incentive, these boot licking toady Republicans have declared a war on American rights. They could care less about the economy or joblessness - their Daddy Koch is doing fine on both of those fronts.

        • 3 votes
        #2.49 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:20 AM EST
        RI Mom

        Archaic Social Issues influenced by Papal Rule is the GOP playbook.

        Meanwhile:in headlines that affect our global dominance:

        US workers behind Korea, UK, Germany, 19 others in science and math

        .

        .

        .
        Not ONE GOP candidate has addressed this alarming statistic requiring a re-tooling of our EDUCATION VALUES.

        This current GOP "social issues" regressive thinking is detrimental to progress and our national security as brain drain is clearly evident in our math & science .

        GOD judges...keep the men and politics out of this.

        • 2 votes
        #2.50 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:21 AM EST
        Woody316

        Gotta love any place where a conservative can site the economy before the crash as a "good" reference point yet won't go as far to accepting that Bush's administration was there when the crash took place. Selective memory much. It seems like history in the conservative mind started at Obama's inauguration...except when talking about how good the economy WAS.

        It was a bubble. Just like every other financial boom we've ever had. At some point the bubble is going to pop and when it does the blame will be solely that of the man in charge at the time of the pop. Hate to tell you guys but no matter how hard you defend it the bubble popped under Bush. Unless you are deluded enough to think that 400,000 jobs lost a month was setting Obama up for success.

        • 3 votes
        #2.51 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:21 AM EST
        Terry-Ca

        All comments so far on this thread sound like our do nothing congress... "My good friend from the other side of the isle!" It's so strange how people point blame but never accept blame... Just heard the other day a negative comment about President Jimmy Cater, and next was a comment about the saint of all republicans President Ronald Reagan... But the fact is GWB will go down in history as the worst president ever, even more so than Hoover...

        The republicans in this campaign have gone back to talking hate for woman's right, gay marriage, and dreamt up this war on religion because they have nothing else to work with... Hate works well when you put a crucifix behind it...

        Simple fact, the people who HATE President Obama, hate him because he's black... Not because he's not able to do the job as president (He's proved that he is.) They hate him because he's just a little too American of which they are not use to...

        I mean, everyone knows that Americans are white, rich, old, WASP... Their wives stay home, stay bare footed and pregnant... So in the mind of these people, President Obama, well he's just not one of us...

        • 1 vote
        #2.52 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:32 AM EST
        BostonMan-3128434

        Simple fact, the people who HATE President Obama, hate him because he's black... Not because he's not able to do the job as president (He's proved that he is.) They hate him because he's just a little too American of which they are not use to..

        Thanks for the chuckle today- Always funny when someone pulls out the race card for no reason at all - Good one - I am still laughing at that joke

        Oh and PS -Obama is half white in case you did not know - So do you think the people that hate him for "being black" only hate half of him ?

        • 1 vote
        #2.53 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:39 AM EST
        LassenPark

        B.M. I figured you'd just look at the top poll and ignore the ones over the previous several months that showed Dems at 30% while the Reps were at 20%. I know you need to prop up your falsehoods in any way you can, but you make it to easy to expose your methods.

          #2.54 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:46 AM EST
          BostonMan-3128434

          B.M. I figured you'd just look at the top poll and ignore the ones over the previous several months that showed Dems at 30% while the Reps were at 20%. I know you need to prop up your falsehoods in any way you can, but you make it to easy to expose your methods.

          And your posts are all over the place and make no sense - Now you want to go back atnd look at old poll numbers? Try sticking with one toipc maybe in the future and you will not confuse yourself

          • 1 vote
          #2.55 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:54 AM EST
          drummerboy2011

          46% approval and 8.3% unemployment is not good for the President. But it is Bush's fault.

          So Obama's numbers are in the @!$%#ter and you're blaming Bush for that?!?


          BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • 6 votes
          #2.56 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:42 PM EST
          mrsrachelm

          LOL!!! It's what they do best.

          It rained today....damn that Bush! It's too hot today....it's Bush's fault.

          Obama just spent 3+ trillion dollars in three years....no no!...look over here it's Bush's fault!

          Global warming? It's Bush's fault.

          You toilet backed up because you tried to flush that diaper? That's Bush's fault too.

          • 7 votes
          #2.57 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:47 PM EST
          Smith Cassidy

          BostonMan-3128434

          Wingnuts? Can you make one post without immature name calling?

          Shall we be disingenuous and act as if the term 'liberal' isn't thrown around like a curse word?

            #2.58 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:21 PM EST
            Smith Cassidy

            Global warming? It's Bush's fault.

            Sorry, is that an admission that global warming (aka change) is real?

            You must be a RINO.

              #2.59 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:26 PM EST
              Smith Cassidy

              Obviously Obama's approval rating has absolutely nothing to do with GWB.

              Obviously the Unemployment Rate does involve GWB.

              Any other questions?

                #2.60 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:27 PM EST
                Woody316

                Obama just spent 3+ trillion dollars in three years

                Question. Is this three plus trillion you claim including the two wars and the bank bailout? Because correct me if I'm wrong but that would have been spent regardless of who was in office.

                • 1 vote
                #2.61 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:27 PM EST
                mrsrachelm

                Sorry, is that an admission that global warming (aka change) is real?

                Sure, global warming/change might be real in a larger world view than just these past few decades as whats-his-name spouts. It is also a natural part of the Earth's life cycle as a whole and human beings aren't going to change that one iota. We can have teeny tiny impacts in incredibly teeny tiny ways here and there but that's about it. Nature will do what nature will do and we're along for the ride. We really aren't as all powerful as we think we are in the larger scheme of things. We cannot destroy the earth....only ourselves on it.

                • 2 votes
                #2.62 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST
                LassenPark

                Now you want to go back atnd look at old poll numbers?

                I looked at poll numbers over the past 3 months and were all consistent. In fact the CBS poll you glommed onto was the only one that had Dems below 29%. An ABC poll which was right below the CBS one and done over the exact same time period had Dems at 33% and Reps at 21%. A twelve point spread is far outside the MoE. Even the poll you decided to cling to still had the Dems up 7% on the Reps with a MoE of only 3%.

                  #2.63 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:07 PM EST
                  vol fan in chatt, tn

                  lassen, I commend you for FINALLY providing a link...BUT, as you accuse others of living in a right wing fantasy world of propaganda, who link legitimate main stream sources, the one and only time you do is a left wing polling source (look at the list of contributors)...um, isn't that a little hypocritical? Why, yes it is but in all honesty, I expect no less.

                  • 4 votes
                  #2.64 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:06 PM EST
                  Arieus

                  Rational Brent

                  Arius, we tried your REVOLUTION in 2008. Didn't like it in 2010 and won't in 2012.

                  Well it lookee-likee my MSN troll as followed me to the Vine. /lol

                  Funny that I have been here starting in 2011, and now I am accused of posting in 2008.

                  Hmmm, someone is definitely lost in their own time warp it seems.

                  However, REVOLUTION 2012 is a good year for it. Especially after we discover voter fraud during the November election by the Repukians that want Obama out.

                  The whole system is corrupt, and it's up to the people to band together and shrink gvernment ourselves and toss these politicians to the curb or behind bars where 95% of them belong.

                  • 2 votes
                  #2.65 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:10 PM EST
                  Smith Cassidy

                  mrsrachelm
                  Sorry, is that an admission that global warming (aka change) is real?

                  Sure, global warming/change might be real in a larger world view than just these past few decades as whats-his-name spouts. It is also a natural part of the Earth's life cycle as a whole and human beings aren't going to change that one iota. We can have teeny tiny impacts in incredibly teeny tiny ways here and there but that's about it. Nature will do what nature will do and we're along for the ride. We really aren't as all powerful as we think we are in the larger scheme of things. We cannot destroy the earth....only ourselves on it.

                  I agree with the bold completely, mrs. We could haggle over the teeny tiny bit, but I believe it all ultimately boils down to that last sentence.

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.66 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:19 PM EST
                  drummerboy2011

                  Shall we be disingenuous and act as if the term 'liberal' isn't thrown around like a curse word?

                  Oh please @!$%#ing spare us already. Liberal or conservative is the proper way to address those two sides, as opposed to Rethuglicans, REICH WING, RightWingNuts and any number of other choice little names the liberals on this website use for those on the other side of the coin.

                  I could fill a page with liberal comments using these and many more just like them.

                  • 5 votes
                  #2.67 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:54 PM EST
                  LassenPark

                  the one and only time you do is a left wing polling

                  Ah, yes. That definition of "left wing" by the right wing: anything that provides facts that destroy right wing lies or myths. Did you even look at the link? If so did you go far enough down to find the FalseNews poll showing Dems at 29% and Reps at 22% just like almost all the other polls? I am grateful that right wingers are so sloppy or so lazy that they can't even come up with the right information when it's handed to them on a platter. But it is pretty galling to then have them come back and claim that their incompetence was my bias. Now that takes real hootspaw.

                  • 2 votes
                  #2.68 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:31 PM EST
                  Middle Class Mama-1025275

                  You go, LP!

                    #2.69 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:33 PM EST
                    Smith Cassidy

                    Oh please @!$%#ing spare us already. Liberal or conservative is the proper way to address those two sides, as opposed to Rethuglicans, REICH WING, RightWingNuts and any number of other choice little names the liberals on this website use for those on the other side of the coin.

                    Nah, I won't @!$%#ing spare you a thing. It all comes down to usage. Any term can be made derogatory.

                    "Liberal" is the boogeyman for the 'right'. Deny it all you want, who cares? It is what it is.

                    And most on the 'right' who use the term 'liberal' don't even know what it means, they just know it's 'bad'.

                      #2.70 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:36 PM EST
                      vol fan in chatt, tn

                      (look at the list of contributors)

                      Yes, as a matter of fact I did look at the link that is why I said the above...very interesting indeed.

                      In addition, you then said:

                      I am grateful that right wingers are so sloppy or so lazy that they can't even come up with the right information when it's handed to them on a platter

                      The fact of the matter is I did go to your source. You made the mistake of looking at a couple of polls and come back here proclaiming victory...I actually delved into WHO the people are that contribute to the site, and how they conduct their polls, and the wording - is it leading wording (like the AFL/ CIO robo poll I received the other day....they didn't like the amswers I was giving them and THEY hung up on me!)? - all very important.

                      Did you do due diligence or were you a little "sloppy" and "lazy", Lassen? Obviously not...welcome to ignore, troll! Congrats your my second (now that ironicwhat'shisname got the boot) one in 3+ years and it sure didn't take you long, as you got here right after somebody else got the boot and you started targeting the same certain viners ...what a friggin coincidence, huh?

                      • 6 votes
                      #2.71 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:35 AM EST
                      Reply
                      mountainmike-1199289

                      Guess what? No random accident that the Republicans are diverting attention away from jobs, jobs, jobs, withdrawal from Afghanistan, switching to alternative energy, dealing with pollution, protecting ourselves from Wall Street, etc... to their favorite social issues. And its no random accident that those social issues all depend upon forcing their morality and beliefs on others. These are issues of their CHOICE to fixate on others instead of issues based in reality of living in America in 2012.

                      The Republican track record on reality based issues is horrific. They have offered NO realistic jobs legislation proposals at all. Their biggest attempt at a proposal ended up in a sickening proposal to grossly over indulge "job creators" even further than ever before while the jobs creators they are indulging are creating jobs in China and India where people work 12 hours shifts for $17 dollars a days with no benefits.

                      They are indeed the party of NO. They are headed into the 2012 general elections with NO positive track record, just a track record of continuous obstruction. And those social issues at a deeper level is simply propaganda voodoo to fixate Teapublicans away from the fact that Republicans are trying to create a aristocracy/corporatocracy, a government ruled by the Koch brothers, Big Oil, multi millionaires and our largest, richest corporations.

                      And we are down to the point of Republicans not wanting to cut military spending or eliminate tax cuts for the rich and loopholes for corporations. In short, they are obstructing any significant change in paying down the national debt. If they take control of the white house and congress again, they will most likely repeat the out of control spending of George W Bush.

                      • 21 votes
                      #3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:46 AM EST
                      Silvaria

                      If they take control of the white house and congress again, they will most likely repeat the out of control spending of George W Bush.

                      Which is rather ironic, considering how loudly they holler about Obama's "out of control spending".

                      I guess IOKIYAR, right? 8(

                      • 11 votes
                      #3.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:40 AM EST
                      We the corporations?

                      Thanks Mike, was going to say essentially the same thing.

                      Just add one thing though, this is a purposeful deflection from the economy by the main stream media (FOX) to insight peoples emotions, because if we let "the people" think Obama wins in a landslide.

                      • 6 votes
                      #3.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:28 AM EST
                      drummerboy2011

                      because if we let "the people" think Obama wins in a landslide.

                      3+ years into a presidency in an election year and only a 46% approval rating and you're saying the guy will win in a landslide?

                      ROFLMAO!!!!!

                      • 4 votes
                      #3.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:35 AM EST
                      Radical_Centrist

                      drummerboy2011

                      3+ years into a presidency in an election year and only a 46% approval rating and you're saying the guy will win in a landslide?

                      Compared to what the GOP has to offer? Obama will win EASILY.

                      ROFLMAO!!!!!

                      Huffing will do that to you.

                      • 10 votes
                      #3.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:41 AM EST
                      drummerboy2011

                      Obama will win EASILY.

                      Pure speculation on your part and nothing more.

                      • 5 votes
                      #3.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:50 AM EST
                      Shuklack

                      3+ years into a presidency in an election year and only a 46% approval rating and you're saying the guy will win in a landslide?

                      Actually that's not that bad considering the state of the economy and the constant negative artillery coming from the current crop of candidates. He's in a good position.

                      Pure speculation on your part and nothing more.

                      Somehow indicating that your speculation is not speculation, lol?

                      Seriously, McCain had a good chance until he got Palin ( I voted McCain). The current crop though, just a bunch of Palins eyeballing super-Palins for their VPs. It's a joke.

                      Add that to the fact the GOP base can't seem to make up their mind which one of the three to support, and knowing how hateful and vitriolic GOP voters tend to be with regard to any rivals of their chosen favorite..... I can't imagine them all together sucking it up and throwing in their lot with the nominee if it's not their preferred nominee. Most of those types have already thrown in with Romney.

                      They are so incredibly fractured that I'm suprised they haven't already decided to run on split tickets. If the economy continues to slowly recover, provided there aren't any major setbacks - I expect the incumbent would be sitting pretty come November.

                      • 2 votes
                      #3.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:12 AM EST
                      Middle Class Mama-1025275

                      I am wondering how many of you posting about the economy were working adults in the early 1980's when Ronald Reagan was President? I was and I have a very good memory. Recession, stagflation and inflation, banking and savings and loan crisis, high unemployment. This is what I remember vividly. Did a quick Google search, found more info on "Early 1980's Recession" at Wikepedia. Before you start in with the "Yeah, but Wikepedia's not reliable", I suggest you visit with some working and middle class older people who lived through it. Then we can discuss the Republican record on the economy.

                      • 1 vote
                      #3.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:41 AM EST
                      BostonMan-3128434

                      I am wondering how many of you posting about the economy were working adults in the early 1980's when Ronald Reagan was President? I was and I have a very good memory. Recession, stagflation and inflation, banking and savings and loan crisis, high unemployment

                      The early 80"s was the beginning of his term right? Right after Carter - So if the early years of his Presidency are his fault then the economy is Obama's fault and not Bush's right?

                      • 3 votes
                      #3.8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:20 AM EST
                      mrsrachelm

                      Well I tell ya what...I'll blame the prior President before Reagan for everything just like Bush gets blamed for everything now. Okay? ROFLMAO

                      Anyway, I prefer to look at what we're dealing with now. If you prefer to hop into your way-back machine, feel free.

                      • 5 votes
                      #3.9 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:22 AM EST
                      Woody316

                      Which is rather ironic, considering how loudly they holler about Obama's "out of control spending.

                      Everybody knows the conservatism in "fiscal conservative" only applies when a Democrat is in power.

                      Why do you think they are pushing social issues now? It's because the economy is improving. They started to run on dismal unemployment numbers and no growth but since the economy is improving, albeit slowly, they have lost their platform. All it was is the typical smoke and mirrors rolled out by the GOP. When America needed jobs, that's what they ran on even though they never produced any. Then America wanted a better economy, so that's what they ran on but while they were pointing fingers at the reason they think caused it (Obama)...it got better. Now all they have are social issues. Hence the push on them.

                      • 1 vote
                      #3.10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:29 AM EST
                      Terry-Ca

                      I just copied a few of President Obama achievements so far...

                    • Obama has overhauled the food safety system
                    • Advanced women's rights in the work place
                    • Ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) in our military
                    • Stopped defending DOMA in court.
                    • Passed the Hate Crimes bill.
                    • Appointed two pro-choice women to the Supreme Court.
                    • Expanded access to medical care and provided subsidies for people who can't afford it.
                    • Expanded the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP)
                    • Fixed the preexisting conditions travesty [and recessions] in health insurance.
                    • Invested in clean energy.
                    • Overhauled the credit card industry, making it much more consumer-friendly.
                    • While Dodd-Frank bill was weak in many respects, it was still an extremely worthwhile start at re-regulating the financial sector.
                    • He created a Elizabeth Warren's dream agency: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
                    • He's done a lot for veterans
                    • He got help for people whose health was injured during the clean-up after the 9/11 attacks.
                    • Of course:

                    • He's killed Osama Bin Laden
                    • Eliminated several other Al-Qaeda leaders
                    • Ended the War in Iraq
                    • Begun the draw down of forces from Afghanistan
                    • End-run Republican obstructionism by recess-appointing Richard Cordray to run the Consumer Financial Protection Board.
                    • Not bad for a dude with funny ears...

                        #3.11 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:48 AM EST
                        Woody316

                        few of President Obama achievements so far...

                        Or as the GOP calls them "talking points"./s

                        I think that the pushing of social issues will lead to the demise of the GOP in 2012. Abortions are legal and in some cases necessary for the sake of the woman or the child. They should drop this battle because they are fighting a loosing battle. Look at Komen. They stopped providing grants to PP and were crushed by bad press and feedback over it. Now it would be one thing if the feedback didn't amount to anything but apparently the resignation of Handel and reversal of course says otherwise. Same will happen to the GOP is they stay this course. They will be handed their walking papers. They have turned it into a black and white battle with each side being either for it or against it but have turned their back to cases which require it for the woman's sake. If someone was made to have an abortion under the understanding that if they didn't they would die or the pregnancy was terminated due to rape, the GOP has already lost that vote when saying in no circumstance should abortions be provided even when the mother's life is in jeapordy. A woman that remains alive due to that abortion isn't going to vote against another woman's life that could be saved due to that procedure.

                        • 1 vote
                        #3.12 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:07 PM EST
                        Middle Class Mama-1025275

                        @Boston Man, you will do well to revisit some info on the 1970's economies of President's Nixon and Ford. I lived it.

                          #3.13 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:38 PM EST
                          mrsrachelm

                          Another way-back machine ride! Woo-hoo! You know what happens going forward when you're constantly only looking back? You fall on your face, that's what.

                          • 4 votes
                          #3.14 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM EST
                          Middle Class Mama-1025275

                          Woo Hoo, another Republican denier !

                            #3.15 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:46 PM EST
                            mrsrachelm

                            Awww, you used my "woo-hoo!" comment. I'm flattered!

                            Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
                            Prov. Copying someone is flattering because it shows you want to be like that person.

                            http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Imitation+Is+the+Sincerest+Form+of+Flattery

                            • 4 votes
                            #3.16 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:49 PM EST
                            Middle Class Mama-1025275

                            Don't flatter yourself, educate yourself !

                            • 2 votes
                            #3.17 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:10 PM EST
                            drummerboy2011

                            Don't flatter yourself, educate yourself !

                            Perhaps a little practicing what you preach is in order?!?

                            • 4 votes
                            #3.18 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:02 AM EST
                            Middle Class Mama-1025275

                            Well, of course ! I practice what I preach every day. I educate myself.

                              #3.19 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:59 PM EST
                              drummerboy2011

                              About what?

                              • 4 votes
                              #3.20 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:11 PM EST
                              Middle Class Mama-1025275

                              The posts above on which I commented were about unemployment statistics and the economy. There were various comments alluding that President Obama has done nothing, and that if we had a Republican president our economy would be rosy. My comments were to remind people that under President Reagan, whom many Republicans have cannonized, we faced circumstances just as bad if not worse, two years into his first term. The actual unemployment statistic fluctuated, but were as high as 10%. en.wikepedia.org/wiki/Early_1980's_recession.

                                #3.21 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:25 PM EST
                                Reply
                                imsovain

                                Yeah,yeah,yeah.Divide and rule.I'd like to go on record as stating that I care for humanity more than political parties or ideoligies before such records are gone forever.It won't be long for those of you who believe time is a tangible asset.

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:52 AM EST
                                imsovain

                                I'm still here,I've never left.I'm only a citizen of the U.S. and the rest of humanity so I hope you will understand my embarrassment when I need it announced to me that some other bull@!$%# has overtaken my country.Just imagine your embarrassment when truth has set bull@!$%# aside,along with mainstream media.There is no U.S.politics,or U.S. for that matter.Only globalists and individuals.Reptiles and humans.Cowards and heroes.It's about freedom,nothing more or less,and I'm tired of the reptiles,the mainstream media,the cowards and the bull@!$%#.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:10 AM EST
                                AlKhidr

                                I'm with Jake here. When did this become "all of a sudden" as opposed to a jack-hammering constant from the right wing that has no substantive issues to run on?

                                • 10 votes
                                Reply#6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:40 AM EST
                                We the corporations?

                                When the economy started to turn around is when it became All the sudden. Scare people with emotions like "they're taking away your religious freedom" and they will blindly follow any idiot the GOP puts up there.

                                • 5 votes
                                #6.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:30 AM EST
                                mountainmike-1199289

                                Republicans have been trying to create bad economy/job numbers. Remember Mitch McConnell saying his goal was to make Obama a one term president. That has been their ONLY goal. Now that is not happening, they seem to be at a loss to find real issues.

                                • 1 vote
                                #6.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:39 AM EST
                                Middle Class Mama-1025275

                                @We and @mountain: You are both exactly right. And this is all you see and hear on every TV channel news cast or program from 6am to midnight, daily.

                                  #6.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:46 AM EST
                                  Terry-Ca

                                  Mitch McConnell has been in congress for some 28 years... I think it should be the voters of Kentucky's job to make this his last term as their senator...

                                  To think that this senator stood on the floor of the senate and said, "Making Obama A One-Term President Is My Single Most Important Political Goal"

                                  He doesn't even have the class to address him as President Obama...

                                  Where are the jobs senator?

                                    #6.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST
                                    Reply
                                    DEATHNELL J.

                                    I wonder how long this "diversion" will last? Last time I looked, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS is what was on the "majority's" mind....

                                    • 11 votes
                                    Reply#7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:03 AM EST
                                    We the corporations?

                                    ...what? All I heard was ABORTION, GAYS, and ABORTION...what are jobs?

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #7.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:31 AM EST
                                    mrsrachelm

                                    Sounds like you only read and consider the "flavor of the month" topics and are incapable of seeing the bigger picture. Or perhaps you forget that a LOT of -various- topics are discussed, especially in an election year. Or maybe you don't recall past election where these topics have been very important to voters AS WELL as the economy.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #7.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:32 AM EST
                                    Radical_Centrist

                                    mrsrachelm

                                    Or maybe you don't recall past election where these topics have been very important to voters AS WELL as the economy.

                                    Or maybe YOU don't recall that the only time the GOP cares about those social issues is at election time, when they need the blind support of one issue voters.

                                    They'll use you and then when the election is over, they'll ignore you as they push forward their financial agenda.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #7.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:47 AM EST
                                    drummerboy2011

                                    Or maybe YOU don't recall that the only time the GOP cares about those social issues is at election time, when they need the blind support of one issue voters.

                                    Funny thing is, is that it's Obama using these and other issues to campaign on.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #7.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:51 AM EST
                                    insight-122112

                                    Obama is governing, implementing laws enacted by Congress. Boehner and McConnell and the rest of the GOP are campaigning. Are we to believe that Boehner and McConnell did not know these provisions were not in the law? This is pure demogoguery.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #7.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:43 AM EST
                                    mrsrachelm

                                    You're a riot! Obama never stopped campaigning, LOL!!!

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #7.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:24 AM EST
                                    LassenPark

                                    Oh, and the Reps did, rachel. Gawwd you're a hoot. They began their political attacks on this President before he even took office.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #7.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:47 AM EST
                                    Reply
                                    fronco

                                    Planned Parenthood provides Abortions, when are they going to make a believer out of me. prove it, just prove it, don't have to give name, just come forward and prove that planned parenthood provided an abortion, otherwise your a BUNCH OF LIARS. Come on make a believer out of me.

                                      Reply#8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:10 AM EST
                                      BostonMan-3128434

                                      just come forward and prove that planned parenthood provided an abortion, otherwise your a BUNCH OF LIARS. Come on make a believer out of me.

                                      Huh ? You think Planned Parenthood does not provide abortions?

                                      How Many Abortions does Planned Parenthood Perform Each Year?

                                      In 2006, Planned Parenthood performed 289,750 abortions, or approximately 23% of all abortions, making them the largest abortion provider in the United States. Even as the overall national abortion rate goes down, Planned Parenthood continues to perform more abortions every year.

                                      http://www.whyprolife.com/planned-parenthood/

                                      • 4 votes
                                      #8.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:50 AM EST
                                      Woody316

                                      Planned Parenthood continues to perform more abortions every year.

                                      So are we to believe the answer is to reduce availability of affordable/free birth control? That doesn't make any sense. To lower abortions you have to have a reasonable starting point. Most people would assume that is during sex where conception takes place. As long as there is a fight over providing contraception, there will be a fight over the number of abortions performed.

                                      Abortion is legal. Don't want one? Don't get one. Problem solved.

                                      Also maybe you guys should read a little out of "Superfreakonomics" where they successfully showed the connection between the Roe v. Wade decision and lowering crime rates in major cities.

                                      I'll go out on a limb then and say if you're against abortion you're FOR crime.

                                        #8.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:44 AM EST
                                        stueystu

                                        BroncoMan - Guess you just schooled someone there. Me too.

                                          #8.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:45 AM EST
                                          BostonMan-3128434

                                          I'll go out on a limb then and say if you're against abortion you're FOR crime.

                                          That is a long thin branch you are going out on

                                          Why don't you read the post above mine before going off to my reply - The pster said Planned Parenthood does not do abortions and said it was a lie that they do - Facts , of course, dispute that claim so i pointed out that he was wrong -

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #8.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:04 PM EST
                                          LassenPark

                                          B.M. spoken as a man all too familiar with sawing of the one he sitting on.

                                            #8.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:16 PM EST
                                            Woody316

                                            Why don't you read the post above mine before going off to my reply

                                            I did but I wasn't going off on you, I was just pointing out that if ANYBODY is that much against abortion then they should praise the Obama administration for making BC more available to women. The only thing that I would go off on you about is the fact that apparently you think ONLY Planned Parenthood does abortions. The fact is that you can get an abortion at ANY modern hospital these days. The reason PP performs more than a traditional hospital is because they do them at a price that is affordable for poor or under-priveliged people where as a hospital will charge you an arm and a leg for the same procedure. Defunding PP does nothing except make abortions harder to get for women with limited means. Abortions aren't what women do as a means of birth control no matter how much some claim it is. Abortions themselves are invasive, painful and not pleasant in the least and are performed for many reasons not just because the woman doesn't want a baby.

                                            That is a long thin branch you are going out on

                                            Is it? Have you read the book? If you haven't then you really don't know how thick or thin my branch is. It's broken down in the book by stats, graphs and research. Most would call those "facts". People tend to make their argument based on facts. So my branch is a lot thicker than you think.

                                              #8.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:30 PM EST
                                              BostonMan-3128434

                                              B.M. spoken as a man all too familiar with sawing of the one he sitting on.

                                              Again you have no reply to the issue we are discussing - Just more of the usual BS huh?

                                              The only thing that I would go off on you about is the fact that apparently you think ONLY Planned Parenthood does abortions

                                              Could you please show me where i said that? I did not but id love to know how you came up with that conclusion .

                                              This discussion was not about Planned Parenthood and i am not getting in a debate about them - I simply posted a link showing that the poster was completely wrong - As he was calling others liars -

                                              • 2 votes
                                              #8.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:31 PM EST
                                              LassenPark

                                              B.M. you make yourself such an easy target with all the false crap you pump out.

                                                #8.8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:36 PM EST
                                                Woody316

                                                I just thought it to be odd that all the info out there on abortions at PP and you chose the one that makes the point that abortions performed there has risen over the past years? Ever think that might have something to do with a poorer country or a growing population? I'd be willing to bet if you posted ANY abortion stat from a traditional hospital those rates would show a rise also.

                                                  #8.9 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:39 PM EST
                                                  BostonMan-3128434

                                                  They very well may show a rising number - You are thinking into it too much - I had no hidden agenda other than to show the poster that abortions are given at Planned Parenthood - Which he said were not- Be low is what he said - I posted a link to show he was wrong - simple as that

                                                  just come forward and prove that planned parenthood provided an abortion, otherwise your a BUNCH OF LIARS. Come on make a believer out of me.

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                                                  B.M. you make yourself such an easy target with all the false crap you pump out.

                                                  And you are boring lessen - I posted a link to an article and you call it false crap? How about you dispute the story i posted? Oh you can't right so you just attack ? Done with you lessen - Go harass someone else with your BS

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #8.10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:49 PM EST
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                                                  AlphaDogReporter

                                                  Pulling the religion card is such a cheap shot that it just goes to show you that the GOP is desperate.

                                                  The Republicans should have learned something from the Komen fracas, but they are too stupid and arrogant.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  Reply#10 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:23 AM EST
                                                  mrsrachelm

                                                  You mean like the constant pulling of the race card done by many Progressives and Liberals?

                                                  Or how about the "let's continue to blame Bush" card even after 3 years of Obama adding to our economic woes faster and more intensely than Bush did after 8?

                                                  People who live in glass houses.......

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #10.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:35 AM EST
                                                  drummerboy2011

                                                  Not to mention the fact that RIGHT NOW there are multiple liberally seeded threads published on the Vine that are going viral and what are they about?

                                                  CHRISTIAN BASHING.

                                                  Oh the Hypocrisy

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #10.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:37 AM EST
                                                  Borncorn

                                                  The only Catholic candidate left is Newt Gingrich. You right wingnuts are doing a good enough job of bashing yourselves.

                                                  Oh the Hypocrisy

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #10.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:50 AM EST
                                                  drummerboy2011

                                                  The only Catholic candidate left is Newt Gingrich

                                                  Gingrich won't last another month. But regardless, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said in my comment, just another derail instead of actually addressing the content of the comment.

                                                  And there's more of that uncalled for name calling.

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #10.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST
                                                  Borncorn

                                                  Gingrich won't last another month.

                                                  Whoa there Nostradamus. The GOP values candidate said he was going to take it to the convention.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #10.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM EST
                                                  bonos_rama

                                                  Not to mention the fact that RIGHT NOW there are multiple liberally seeded threads published on the Vine that are going viral and what are they about? CHRISTIAN BASHING.

                                                  Oh the Hypocrisy

                                                  Oh, the victim mentality. If "christians" are going to get involved in everybody else's business- whether it's gay marriage, birth control, etc., they should expect to be called out. After all, what christians are doing in society is a form of "stirring the pot", wouldn't you say? Yup.

                                                  Now, if you will excuse me, I feel another pedophile priest article or seed coming on. Gotta go.

                                                    #10.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:40 AM EST
                                                    stueystu

                                                    drummerboy - There's no Christian bashing on the Vine. Only faux Christians are discussed at length. Truly loving, nonjugmental, unbiased and nonbigoted Christians no one has a word to say about.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #10.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:47 AM EST
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                                                    John W. Schoen

                                                    According to the data, people may talk about social issues - and candidates spend heavily on advertising devoted to them. But when the moment arrives in the voting booth, as the politicos like to say, "it's the economy, stupid." This isn't an opinion. The linear regressions of the link between economic data and political outcomes are pretty clear. Check out our story on the research:

                                                    http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/02/10291640-obama-may-keep-his-job-even-if-you-lose-yours

                                                    • 8 votes
                                                    Reply#11 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:35 AM EST
                                                    Baron Brian

                                                    @John W. Shoen,

                                                    Thanks for pointing this out, with a link!

                                                    In the end, the economy is what'll really matter. Right now, the trends are going Obama's way. IF that's still true in, oh, six months he'll probably win a second term. Will it be a landslide? Running against Santorum or Gingrich, the chances are good it will, but IMO Obama vs. Romney might be a real contest...

                                                    IMO, this "new" focus on social issues is GOP deflection. The economic numbers are trending in Obama's favor, employment statistics smoke-and-mirrors not withstanding. Trying to portray this President as weak on national security is a VERY tough sell now, there's too much evidence to the contrary.

                                                    You gotta rally the troops somehow, and whippin' up a frenzy over gay marriage or abortion is a good way to do it. If I was a GOP political strategist, this is exactly what I'd be doing. The question is this: is it possible that a guy who has just lost his job and his house be convinced to vote for Romney because of a "social wedge" issue, especially if it's one that doesn't affect him directly?

                                                    Can the GOP make that sale in a big enough way? Time will tell...but I doubt it.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #11.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:06 AM EST
                                                    zapper45701

                                                    Why is any politician interested in what’s going on in my bedroom? I’m not sleeping with any of them, so I see it as NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. What does my religion (or lack of) have to do with any governmental agency. Last I checked, we have a separation of church and state. What does my sexual orientation have to do with anything? That’s goes back to my bedroom, and it’s STILL NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. What, as a woman, I do regarding my reproductive rights is my business (already validated by the SCOTUS). What my racial background might be is no one else’s business, either. All of these above mentioned items have already been debated and sealed within anti-discrimination and other laws. You remember—that race, creed, color, etc. thing that is listed in just about every federal and state document. Why are the guarantees being rehashed by the candidates?

                                                    Why are the political candidates not expressing their concerns related to the economy, and their plans for building it? We still have issues with employment, jobs and unemployment. What are their plans for work in the USA? International politics, foreign aid and foreign conflict have not left the limelight. Where is the discussion on these? What is their viewpoint on illegal immigration and the status of illegal aliens within the United States? What all-encompassing stance should be taken? How should the bailout situation continue to be handled? What is the next step toward financial recovery and foreign debt? These are just a very few questions that I would like answers to that are EVERYONE’S BUSINESS.

                                                    Very few issues are on the fence. The only ones I can immediately think of are education and marriage. Education has many ramifications from funding to testing. It needs a lot of examination and definition (too much to list here). Marriage is a contract and, therefore, a legal instrument. The word, “marriage,” has been defined several different ways, but in the end, it is a legal contract. I personally don’t care if “marriage” is between a sea slug and a little green alien from Mars, if it’s a contract, it has a legal binding. Those who use it as a religious agenda might find a different word to define their joining of two entities—perhaps a “binding" or "commitment ceremony” or a “conjugal affiliation.” (Just suggestions, but I think you get the drift.) Again, these are “fence” issues that will take some work.

                                                    Bottom line: Politicians—GET OUT OF OUR PERSONAL LIVES. Get to work on issues that are about our government and survival as a nation of the world. If you haven’t got a plan, then you are NOT qualified to be a candidate.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #11.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:03 PM EST
                                                    Andy Horning

                                                    Unfortunately it is government policy to make everybody pay for everybody's everything. That's why I have to care if you smoke cigarettes or eat Twinkies. That's why I have to care if you have unprotected sex and get pregnant. That's why I have to care if you like pro sports and make me buy your team a new playground.

                                                    We've collectivised all costs and risks, and have privatized the profits into the hands of the politically connected few.

                                                    So each of us have a hog ring in our nose, and an IRS screw up our ...well, nevermind.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #11.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:14 PM EST
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                                                    frugalgovernment

                                                    Polling data now shows that some of the previous cultural wedge issues that favored the GOP are becoming liberal wins now. A majority of the nation favor equal marriage rights. Obviously a super majority of American woman support if not demand contraception choices. The thirty-something and younger generations see gay rights as a ridiculous fight because they except people for who they are regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation. Another large dissenfranchised part of American society are Latin Americans who the GOP have persecuted right into the arms of the Democratic party. Figure the Democrats will harp on the fact that the GOP voted to kill Medicare and Social Security in the Paul Ryan budge and really when you get right down to it there isn't much left for the GOP, but, their base.

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    Reply#12 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:09 AM EST
                                                    mrsrachelm

                                                    Yeah, we all know how wonderfully reliable "poll data" is, ROFLMAO

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #12.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:36 AM EST
                                                    drummerboy2011

                                                    Polling data now shows that some of the previous cultural wedge issues that favored the GOP are becoming liberal wins now.

                                                    What polling data?

                                                    Cite the source

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #12.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:40 AM EST
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                                                    sugarcupid-5195893Deleted
                                                    Wizeguy

                                                    "Where has the outrage been up to now?"

                                                    When it was a George Bush idea it was great....now it's the devil....NOTE TO GOP..We see right trough your bullshirt....

                                                    I can usually hear something about "his" bad policy on my FaceBook page. But on this issue there has been silence. My Catholic friends would be hypocrites if they spouted off about this. If they didn't use contraceptives they would all have a dozen kids....

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    Reply#14 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:36 AM EST
                                                    sugarcupid-5195893Deleted
                                                    don-72

                                                    When the gop has nothing else they fall back on there social issues because it excites there right wing low IQ base who have nothing else to talk about. It is amassing how you can excite people to hate something so dumb as hate for gays or contraceptives for women.

                                                    Now that the President has found out he dose not need them so much to make a difference and turn this county around. There is nothing else but to attack him on Social Issues.

                                                    They can say he is week on National Security but that has proved to not work. They can attack him on job creation and that is not working so well as the economy gets better. They can attack him on Health Care but as more people understand or get Health Care that dose not work so well. They can attack him on that he is not a real American so he can not be President and on and on.

                                                    All they have left is to attack him on Social Issues that there base will stand up and say I agree he hates us and the only thing we care about is our freedom to HATE something.

                                                    • 6 votes
                                                    Reply#16 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:28 AM EST
                                                    mrsrachelm

                                                    This must be your first time to the rodeo.

                                                    Social issues, economic issues, etc are ALL important issues that are brought up again and again during any President's term and especially in an election year.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #16.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:40 AM EST
                                                    Borncorn

                                                    Spare me the religious indignation. You right wingnuts are running Newt Gingrich as a candidate. Good luck with that one.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #16.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:52 AM EST
                                                    drummerboy2011

                                                    You right wingnuts

                                                    Three times in 20 minutes and this time the name calling is directed AT another viner, COH, reported.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #16.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:55 AM EST
                                                    Borncorn

                                                    Need a little cheese with that?

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #16.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:06 AM EST
                                                    tesla013

                                                    As these issues do every election cycle. This is done through the media in order to whip up the masses and to get them paying attention to anything except the real problems facing this country. It is done to get folks to the voting booth with party line firmly in mind. And sadly it will probably succeed as it has for decades.

                                                    "Fools can be certain of one thing in this life. Getting exactly what they deserve."

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #16.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:53 AM EST
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                                                    James-316346

                                                    The Republicans are simply not talking about any of the real issues let alone proposing any real solutions.Is it any wonder that 20% of Republicans are leaning toward voting for OBAMA!

                                                    America does not have an Abortion problem, America does not have a religion problem, America does not have a gay marriage problem, America does not have a lack of Military Spending, America does not have to have a military presence in the Muslim world, America does not have a border problem, America does not have an entitlement problem, America does not have an entitlement mentality, America is not on the verge of collapse, America does not have a Gays in the military problem, America does not need a moon station. America does need to do a lot of things, but the Republicans refuse to even discuss what really needs to be done . Republicans have made a big deal about all these non-problems without focusing on the real problems, or explaining, or apologizing, for creating them.

                                                    Its the economy, income inequality, a declining middle class, poor schools, high prices, few jobs, corporate welfare, and a political discourse that is just plain stupid! And to add insult to injury they field a bunch of near lunatics to run for President.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    Reply#17 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:38 AM EST
                                                    mrsrachelm

                                                    See my answer in comment 16.1 above.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #17.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:42 AM EST
                                                    Radical_Centrist

                                                    James-316346

                                                    Its the economy, income inequality, a declining middle class, poor schools, high prices, few jobs, corporate welfare, and a political discourse that is just plain stupid!

                                                    Actually, the GOP is doing what it needs to do in order to keep the blind support of the people like "mrsracheim". So from a marketing perspective, they're doing things just right.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #17.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:54 AM EST
                                                    James-316346

                                                    mrsrachelm,

                                                    The audience is getting smaller and smaller for their social issues program. At this point only the diehard true believers are still listening. Santorums recent victories are shallow at best, turn out was dismally low in all three states. The real consequences of their rhetoric on abortion, gays, contraception, etc is becoming glaringly clear. They are running a campaign of negatives, we continually here what they don't want, and we never hear what they do want. Americans are fundamentally a positive and optimistic people, their protrait of dissolution and decay is just not playing well, and it is not believed, especially by the young.

                                                    The GOP is headed for a huge failure, they have become exceedingly desperate, and a large portion of their voter base is discouraged to the point of defecting or just giving up on them. I use to hope for better things for them, but now I think they truly deserve it.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #17.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:10 AM EST
                                                    RobPlumley

                                                    Sure, they're important to who?

                                                    But for now, I want candidates, the congress and senate to focus on one thing, and one thing only - the economy.

                                                    This pious @!$%# is all what it is - @!$%#.

                                                    Gay people should have the same rights as any other group. Gay marriages don't affect you, unless your gay and want to get married.

                                                    Abortion and contraception, and in general, women's health is not your @!$%#ING business, except of course your a female and want to be treated equally as a man.

                                                    The GOP is bringing this up because they lack anything else - including foriegn policy, which frankly, they're abysmal.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #17.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:24 AM EST
                                                    mrsrachelm

                                                    Oh you mean Obama's foreign policy of having the President of Mexico come to our Country and mock us while he smiled and nodded, even applauded?

                                                    I could go on but we both know I don't need to.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #17.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:31 AM EST
                                                    LassenPark

                                                    I could go on but we both know I don't need to.

                                                    No, indeed, you don't. You've demonstrated your apparently inexhaustible supply of falsehoods and slanders against this President on many occasions.

                                                      #17.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:50 AM EST
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                                                      Scott D-552243

                                                      The GOTP is waiting to pull out the big gun's to get the base fired up ,my guess is by the 4th of July when the real Americans celebrate the birth of are country there will be a all out assault to take the gun's away from every U.S citizen so they won't be able to defend them self's against the gay's that will come and steel there children and turn them into gay's and force there women to take birth control pills . In the mean time I will wait for the war on Easter (it's a cheery and colorful assault).

                                                      Oh my God ,I like pastels.

                                                      Could I be gay?

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      Reply#19 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:54 AM EST
                                                      don-72

                                                      mrsrachelm

                                                      This must be your first time to the rodeo. LOL

                                                      No this is not new to me. What is different is that it is the same old B.S. and people still fall for it.

                                                      • 3 votes
                                                      Reply#20 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM EST
                                                      Dave-535062

                                                      I am also a Catholic. The church's positon on birth control has always been to strict. When I was born it was quite common for Catholic families to have 5 plus children whether they could afford or house them or not. And I am not aware specifically where Jesus said, "no birth control". The complete lack of intelligence daily displayed by the Republican candidates and they are supposedly the cream of the crop. Issues like gay rights, contraception, even abortion are not and should not be political issues. They are issues that effect a handful of people while the issues of economics, jobs, living conditions, health and welfare, hunger, war and other issues that effect the vast majority. In fact whether it be Repuiblican candidates or Catholic Bishops they would be better off proceeding on their own beliefs instead of blaming others, and President Obama is completely out of line to make sweeping edicts that are personal moral issues for his country.

                                                      • 3 votes
                                                      Reply#21 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM EST
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                                                      Beebobby

                                                      Economy, jobs, national defense all improved under Obama. Social issues are all that the right has to drum up support from their base.

                                                      • 4 votes
                                                      Reply#23 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:21 AM EST
                                                      Yeah Toast!

                                                      Economy, jobs, national defense all improved under Obama. Social issues are all that the right has to drum up support from their base.

                                                      Brilliantly said, Beebobby.

                                                      Decades of failed policy leaves them with only talking points on things like the economy (no semi-educated person believes wealth "trickles down") while instilling fear in their already radicalized base.

                                                      Then, once they're ushered into office, they stall and obstruct the legislative process and make no attempt to actually fulfill even their socially-backwards claims.

                                                      • 3 votes
                                                      #23.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:02 AM EST
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                                                      Vlad's dog

                                                      This is funny. Where has Kohut been for all these years?

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      Reply#25 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:38 AM EST
                                                      bubbling

                                                      I think congress likes the economy pushed to the background. At a 10% approval rating. We need to keep the pressure on them to do their jobs. These social issues hopefully will not blur what is important.

                                                      • 4 votes
                                                      Reply#26 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:38 AM EST
                                                      FL Independent

                                                      Social issues are nowhere near the top of the agenda. These social conservatives are getting out of hand.

                                                      It should be about jobs, the future of our economy, actually dealing with the financial sector and limiting their future damage, shoring up SS and medicare, foreign policy, monetary policy, immigration, and the role of government. Topics of actual substance.

                                                      • 5 votes
                                                      Reply#27 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:39 AM EST
                                                      insight-122112

                                                      Social Issues are the only things they can understand. It's the us-versus-them mentality.

                                                      • 3 votes
                                                      #27.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:51 AM EST
                                                      FL Independent

                                                      They dont even seem to understand the social issues very much. They cant seem to grasp they are in the minority on their positions and their positions, when put in law, are unconstitutional. If dont believe abortion is right, convince people to CHOOSE not to do it. Do not seek to force people into your morality. The government is not the morality police.

                                                        #27.2 - Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:42 AM EST
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                                                        Reply#28 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:42 AM EST
                                                        Borncorn

                                                        As the Catholic GOP values candidate Newt Gingrich stated:

                                                        Spare me the pious baloney.

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        Reply#29 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:48 AM EST
                                                        WatchTheOtherHand

                                                        Social issues are not back. Journalists just want to change the topic of discussion. If they keep talking about the economy, their messiah will lose re-election.

                                                        Its a pretty common media political tactic. If you can't win on the current topic, change it.

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        Reply#30 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:04 AM EST
                                                        redphish

                                                        Actually it's the GOP candidates bringing social issues up as they do every election cycle. They know there are a whole lot of religious conservatives that will vote for them solely on those issues, regardless of their qualifications and their positions on the real issues this country faces.

                                                        • 2 votes
                                                        #30.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:22 AM EST
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                                                        Joe-1863628

                                                        I remember all the elections back to Eisenhower and this one has the worst candidates I have ever seen or heard. The republican candidates are so way out out there in outer space it is scary, to be against birth control in this economy is nuts. The Catholic church has made up it's own rules that are not in the bible since the start. They forbid the bible to be translated into english for many years. They wanted the people to go through the church to get to the bible to control them. This is what it is about, control of woman's bodies by a group of old men who can never have control of a woman any other way. The Catholic Church is so rich maybe they will take over supporting poor families with many children!!!

                                                        • 1 vote
                                                        Reply#31 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:19 AM EST
                                                        Texasguy01

                                                        When a captive liberal media tries not to discuss the economy and throws everything a strategy that attacking Christianity and supporting abortion rights will win a tight election in 2012 the first thought I have is that they have gone completely delusional.

                                                        • 4 votes
                                                        Reply#32 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:23 AM EST
                                                        Borncorn

                                                        Delusional is the correct word. Captive liberal media??????

                                                          #32.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:49 AM EST
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