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Consumer prices up as gas, clothing costs rise

Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:38 AM EST
business, politics, us, prices, consumer-prices
Christopher S. Rugaber, AP Economics Writer
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<p>This Feb, 13, 2012 photo shows gas prices at Exxon and BP Mini-mart in Scott Township, Pa. Consumer prices rose a modest 0.2 percent in January, pushed up by higher gas, clothing costs. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar)</p>

This Feb, 13, 2012 photo shows gas prices at Exxon and BP Mini-mart in Scott Township, Pa. Consumer prices rose a modest 0.2 percent in January, pushed up by higher gas, clothing costs. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar)

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WASHINGTON — Consumer prices rose modestly in January on higher costs for food, gas, rent and clothing.

But economists downplayed the increase, saying inflation will likely ease in the coming months as prices for raw materials level off.

Separately, a gauge of future economic activity rose in January for the fourth straight month, adding to evidence that the economy has strengthened in the new year.

The consumer price index increased 0.2 percent last month, after a flat reading in December, the Labor Department said Friday.

Excluding volatile food and energy, so-called "core" prices ticked up 0.2 percent. A big reason for the increase was that clothing prices jumped 0.9 percent. Medical care, rent and tobacco prices also increased.

Car prices were unchanged, and airfares fell.

Core inflation over the past 12 months moved up to 2.3 percent — its highest point in more than three years. A steady rise in core prices could limit the Federal Reserve's ability to take steps to boost the economy.

Still, economists said inflation is likely leveling off. For example, clothing prices are higher because of a spike last year in the cost of cotton. When the impact of the cotton hike fades, clothing costs should ease.

Guy LeBas, fixed income strategist at Janney Montgomery Scott, said the rise in the core reflected a delayed response to those soaring commodity prices.

The report "points to a benign path for inflation for 2012," LeBas said. "Consumer demand is fairly anemic right now ... firms can't raise prices when nobody's buying."

Separately, the Conference Board said its index of leading economic indicators rose 0.4 percent last month to its highest point since July 2008. The steady rise has coincided with other positive data that suggest the recovery is picking up.

The unemployment rate fell to 8.3 percent, the lowest in nearly three years, after employers added 243,000 net jobs — the most in nine months. Auto sales are up, unemployment aid applications are down, and factories are cranking out goods at a healthy pace.

The Fed is forecasting that inflation will remain in check this year. It expects that the inflation gauge it follows will increase by about 1.6 percent in 2012. That's below the Fed's target for inflation of 2 percent.

Low inflation was one of the reasons the Fed last month said it plans to hold its benchmark interest rate at a record low near zero until late 2014.

If inflation were to rise rapidly, the Fed would come under pressure to increase rates.

A small amount of inflation can be good for the economy. It encourages businesses and consumers to spend and invest money sooner rather than later, before inflation erodes its value.

And tame inflation, combined with recent increases in income, gives consumers more buying power and should add to economic growth.

Retailers are still reluctant to charge more, even as the economy grows at a moderate pace. Many relied on heavy discounting to boost holiday sales last year.

Oil and gas prices have increased again after dropping late last year, though that has been offset somewhat by falling natural gas costs. The average price for a gallon of gas rose to $3.53 on Friday, up 15 cents from the previous month.

Falling energy and food costs kept wholesale prices in check last month, the Labor Department said Thursday. The producer price index rose 0.1 percent in January, after dropping the same amount the previous month.

Wholesale gas costs rose, but that was more than offset by steep drops in natural gas, home heating oil and electricity prices.

Core wholesale prices jumped 0.4 percent because of higher pharmaceutical, pickup truck and tobacco costs.

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CCArm

We need legislation that makes commodities speculation illegal. This would solve the rising price of gas.

  • 11 votes
#1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:26 AM EST
FLYNAVY1

I agree, but try explaining that to those anti-government, single issue voters of God, guns, gay-bashing and abortion that as they pick up their medicare check.

Big oil will never stand for it, and anyone in congress taking money from big oil will never propose it.

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:36 AM EST
ERich-356044

FLY and CC..

You are both right. We do need this type of legislation, and it is sickening the way prices are rising in this fragile economy.

E

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:42 AM EST
mountainmike-1199289

The Real Reason Gas Prices Are Soaring

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/03/28/the-real-reason-gas-prices-are-soaring/

Dan Dicker, who has spent nearly three decades in the oil market, has a profoundly disturbing explanation of why the price of oil, and the gasoline that comes from the crude product, has risen so dramatically in recent months. It turns out, Dicker says, that the price has nothing to do with supply and demand for oil. It's the financial market for oil, filled with both professional speculators and amateur investors betting on poorly understood oil exchange-traded funds, who have ratcheted up the price of gas to such sky high levels.

"There is no supply issue going on here - what you have is the perception of the possibility of a supply issue," Dicker says. "A whole bunch of people are pouring money into an oil market trying to take advantage of what they perceive to be a real risk in supply. It's a marketplace that I argue should not be allowed to be wagered on like a stock or bond."

‘Perhaps 60% of today’s oil price is pure speculation’

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=8878&context=va

How would you like to see an instantaneous bail out of Main Street involving NO taxpayer money? BAN speculation in oil and food. The price of gas at the pump would be cut in half over night. Prices at the grocery store similarly would be substantially reduced. There is no rational way to keep indulging a small group of greedy white collar criminals getting rich off of the nation wide inflation they are causing.

The Dodd-Frank Bill established a law that empowers the Commodities Futures Trading Commission to eliminate all unnatural forces on the market and prices outside of supply and demand. Republicans have been trying to sabotage the CFTC.

Cantor Promises Oil Speculators That GOP Will Block Financial Regulations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXJR7eZ_jQ

Lobbyist In Charge Of ‘Trying To Kill’ Financial Reform Hired By GOP Chair To Oversee Financial Regulations

December26,2010

A few days ago, incoming Agriculture Chairman Rep. Frank Lucas (R-OK) announced the hire of Ryan McKee as the senior staffer to oversee the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. McKee is currently a lobbyistworking for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s division dedicated to deregulating complex derivatives products. In her new role working for Lucas, McKee will be liaising with regulators in charge of implementing new rules under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform law to overhaul the over-the-counter derivatives market.

Republicans are also attacking the funding of the CFTC.

  • 8 votes
#1.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:25 AM EST
Cygnus_X-1

Here we go again. The speculators are at it again. CONGRESS, pass laws that regulate or tax speculators. The PEOPLE have spoken. WE are your constituents, not BIG BUSINESS. Just because you managed to get CITIZENS UNITED passed and approved by the courts, doesnt mean the voters and people of the United States approve of it. Get your priorities straight, and start looking after people instead of yourselves and your Big Business task masters.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:48 AM EST
GaryColumbus

Because of gas prices being what they've been this century thus far commerce has been hobbled for economic growth. The Republicans kissing Big Oil's a$$ will in some way another show Obama's administration to have a sluggish economy all because they want the White House and only because they feel they have the right to screw everyone over including those who vote Republicans not understanding that is not in their best interest. You want the recession to end? Jump down the Republicans throat period!

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:53 AM EST
1standlastword

Predation!!!!! Where are the regulators??????

99% has less 1% demands more.

They calculate the thresholds and we have to pay to play....predation

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:55 AM EST
mountainmike-1199289

If the corporations involved in speculation are now legally considered "people" then they need to be sued for raping America. People are held accountable for their actions. Why not corporations now that they are legally "people." I would at least enjoy seeing the five conservative Republican appointed judges that voted for corporate personhood make an about face in a corporate rape case and openly show themselves as hypocrites.

Those 5 judges, especially with demonstrated ties to the Koch brothers, need to be impeached out of office.

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:56 AM EST
jpokergman

Dan Dicker says it so it must be true.

The recession is not really the Republicans fault, or the Democrats fault. Pointing fingers will not end it. If everyone in the Country became instant Dems first thing in the morning. It would still be here.

The fact that people still have not come to grips with what has really happened to our Country's Mining, Manufacturing, and Agriculture production tells me that our perception is truely broken. Those are the only three things that actually create wealth.

Not Taxes...Not War..Not Rules..Not Clean air...Not Bills..Not Banks..Not Wall Street...Not Car Insurance...Not Life Insurance....Not Indian Bingo....Not street craps....Not Main Street...Not the Media...Not Fox News...ESPECIALLY NOT FOX NEWS....Not Congress...Not The President...Not Newt...Not The Primaries....Not Social Security...Not Obama Care....Not Medicare...Not Penmanship...Not pink ribbons...Not the Weather....Not Occupy Whatever.....Getting the point?

Only three things create wealth on this Planet.

Mining, Manufacturing, and Agriculture. Everything else is a redistribution of that wealth.

  • 1 vote
#1.8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:18 AM EST
Greenwood10

Consumer prices up as gas, clothing costs rise

And Obama fiddles. His great issue? Make the Catholic Church go against it's teachings and make them pay for birth control. Go back to Chicago and do your "community organizing". It's about at the level you can handle.

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:27 AM EST
Ripley8

gas costs rising ?

cons and oil companies are very happy !

Greenwood10 aka Driftwood ....

it's cons in congress that are fiddling ... and have been for the last 15 years.

Obama , a community organizer , still far better than Bush Jr !

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM EST
jpokergman

President Obama is not fiddling.

He is a damn fine Commander-in-Chief. Is that not his main job description?

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM EST
Nicey-1026620

‘Perhaps 60% of today’s oil price is pure speculation’

I'm doubtful of that.

There is some speculation to be sure. But you also have many other factors.

  • Fear, there's a fear factor. A lot of the global production comes from Areas vunerable to distabilization. Nigeria, Middleeast, Venezuela, Russia, even Mexico isn't what you'd think of as being safe.
  • The big easy fields are basically all found. That means getting new supplies is more difficult, in more hazardous areas, that cost more to produce.
  • Asian consumption is applying demand pressure to the global markets.

If you look at a supply and demand picture globally, we have more daily production than consumption. But not by a huge amount. Which means that any supply disruptions have big consequences.

Those prices are exaccerbated by the futures market and volatility trading, but they would be affected regardless of that.

  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:35 AM EST
Nicey-1026620

And since this is about CPI. You have two factors that have much more impact.

A) Healthcare costs have increased faster than oil over the last decades.

B) Tuition costs have increased faster than Healthcare or Oil over the last decades.

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:37 AM EST
echo82

Greenwood: it's the Republicans that are up in arms over social issues, please try to get it straight. Pandering to the religious right is all they've got.

  • 3 votes
#1.14 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:54 AM EST
CCArm

Nicey and Mountain Mike are two wonderful examples of how we get smarter here on NV

Thanks to both of you for informative posts!!

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:26 PM EST
BeMyJellyfish

You guys want to pass legislation to ban commodities speculation? OK, fine. So what do we do about the rest of the world trading on those global commodities markets? If you think prices are high now, wait until US investors aren't allowed to participate in those markets.

    #1.16 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:31 PM EST
    CCArm

    If you think prices are high now, wait until US investors aren't allowed to participate in those markets.

    and US speculators hold the prices down? Please explain.

    • 3 votes
    #1.17 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:49 PM EST
    BeMyJellyfish

    CCArm,

    By excluding US investors, who otherwise would be affecting the global prices (yes, sometimes in a positive way), you would be leaving the commodities markets open to prices based on conditions in the rest of the world, to the exclusion of the US. Since the US is the world's largest economy, that would have a hugely negative impact on the commodities markets, driving prices higher. If you want to get more conspiratorial about it, it could provide an avenue for economic warfare against the US by allowing a foreign power to manipulate the prices without the US having any leverage to act against it.

      #1.18 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:58 PM EST
      Phil-1006700

      Obama said that the tax cut will keep $40 a week into the pockets of people . The price of gas has more then doubled since he came into office and that's a lot of money out of our pockets but not a word from Obama. Garantee he is smiling because the more expensive gas becomes the more he can push his agenda for electric cars. He's selling a dead horse and people are buying it.Will anyone buy a USED electric car ? the battery only cost $30,000. Just for the arguement, we already have the knowledge to convert gas engines into natural gas along with 100 years plus of natural gas. As far as i'm concerned someone is peeing on our legs and telling us it's rain.

      • 1 vote
      #1.19 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:54 PM EST
      CCArm

      Phil,

      Short of regulating the price of gas, President Obama has NO SWAY over gas prices.

      I had a car that ran on propane YEARS ago, so I suppose it's Obama's fault we don't have more cars that run on propane, eh?

      Thanks for the explanation JellyFish!

      Sheesh

      • 4 votes
      #1.20 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:03 PM EST
      hww

      Gas prices almost doubled under his watch, He don't mind at all if it makes his agenda. Not a word from him.

      • 1 vote
      #1.21 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:11 PM EST
      FLYNAVY1

      hww.....

      1. I would be really curious to see why YOU think gas prices have gone up?
      2. What the POTUS can do to to make them go down?

      Just like in school, please show your work with supportive data & links.

      • 4 votes
      #1.22 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:25 PM EST
      Ripley8

      BeMyJellyfish

      CCArm,

      By excluding US investors, who otherwise would be affecting the global prices (yes, sometimes in a positive way), you would be leaving the commodities markets open to prices based on conditions in the rest of the world, to the exclusion of the US. Since the US is the world's largest economy, that would have a hugely negative impact on the commodities markets, driving prices higher. If you want to get more conspiratorial about it, it could provide an avenue for economic warfare against the US by allowing a foreign power to manipulate the prices without the US having any leverage to act against it.

      Bull@!$%#...investors will get the highest price they can get irregardless of where they are from and where those goods go. US investors regularly screw over the US.

      here's why.

      SUCCESSFUL GLOBAL MARKETING BY U.S. FIRMS

      An important reason behind the increasing deficit is the involvement of U.S. businesses investing in China.

      For the foreign investors like the U.S. multinationals, this has opened up a new and extensive trading and investment market, and for China the means of gaining the foreign investment necessary for modernization and economic reform. These foreign investment projects will help raise output, improve quality, and increase the variety of China's existing product. Furthermore, it will help China produce goods that at the moment it is incapable of producing or, at least, is in short supply. This will eventually reduce China's dependence on imports. Most importantly, these goods may end up being exported from China to the international marketplace, most probably to the United States, thereby increasing U.S. imports from China.

      by moving production sites to China in search of low-cost labor, these American companies are directly responsible for the decrease in the amount of total exports to that country. Since the product is no longer produced in the U.S., trade statistics will show a decrease in total exports. Items such as machinery and transport equipment (for railway, aircraft, and ships) showed a decline in U.S. exports for the years 1993 and 1994. But while exports in that category declined, imports in this category increased tremendously, going from $6 billion in 1993 to $9 billion in 1994 and to $34.9 billion in 2000. The trade gap increased in the machinery and transport equipment category from $200 million in 1993 to almost $27 billion in 2000 (U.S. Department of Commerce, 1985-2001).

      CONCLUSION

      Based on the arguments presented, it is very possible that the existing China-U.S. trade deficit may actually be created by U.S. companies engaging in successful global marketing and investing in China.

      http://www.allbusiness.com/management/benchmarking/343767-1.html

      • 4 votes
      #1.23 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:33 PM EST
      Phil-1006700

      CCarm, When prices were going up on Bush's watch the media was all over him. They wouldn't let up in fact. the left went bulls-it over and now not a word . Talk about a double standard,, my my my how things can change when everyone is paying thru the nose and the poor are getting poorer cuz gas is so expensive maybe you can tax a 1%er to pull you out of debt. Obama could open ANWAR up to drilling , it's a wasteland that you and no one else will ever visit, an oil spill could be contained very easily and it's only 20 miles from the Alaska pipeline. But it seems that people want to keep supplying the Arabs instead of relying on ourselves. Yes it is Obama's fault for not pushing for natural gas. He is completely against drilling. I blame his idealogy for the demise of this country.He leads from behind so he can blame others for the failure of his policy.

      • 1 vote
      #1.24 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:42 PM EST
      FLYNAVY1

      Phil..... BS!

      We are producing more oil now than we have since 2004.

      http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=us&product=oil&graph=production

      US oil demand was down in January by 5.7%,

      http://af.reuters.com/article/idAFL2E8DH4W320120217

      yet prices continue to rise even while there is a glut of oil on the market. So since supply and demand are currently such that prices should be going down... just what the hell is causing them to go up?

      ...an oil spill could be contained very easily..

      After making a statement like that, it is obvious you know nothing about oil production, or have been anywhere around the petroleum industry. Fortunately for America, there are some of us that have, and know of what we speak of..

      • 5 votes
      #1.25 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:40 PM EST
      Phil-1006700

      Flynavy, the demand is down because people are feeling the price at the pump. Go buy a plane ticket. a ticket to Connecticut from Florida has doubled since Obama has come to office. Do we travel now, can't afford it. It use to be $89 now it's over $200. My 35 dollar cost of living increase in my Social Security won't cover that increase so maybe we'll drive. Look at that cost , gas is what this country needs the more the cheaper. Listen to what people are saying ,food is going up the cost of freight is increasing hell even the POST OFFICE wants to raise rates again. The high price of gas is starting to cost JOBS. Cut Saturday out of the mail delivery and see all the postal workers begin to hurt. Anyone who believes that we are using less oil is blind. I don't know where you live but I got relatives in Ct that are going broke over the cost of heating oil. Obama wants the price high for his agenda. He doesn't care who he hurts because he thinks his crap doesn't stink. He's from Harvard. How else will he pass his agenda for the electric car and solar . By the way will you buy a used electric car when the battery cost over $30,000 ? Maybe by then the price will drop to $20,000, he wants a million of them on the road by 2015 . What a joke.

      • 1 vote
      #1.26 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:39 AM EST
      Ripley8

      Rising Gas Prices: Not Demand Driven

      http://www.readersupportednews.org/news-section2/320-80/10020-rising-gas-prices-not-demand-driven

      • 2 votes
      #1.27 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:53 AM EST
      Nicey-1026620

      Refineries have also been getting squeezed by higher crude prices over the past several months, forcing some of them to shut down rather than operate at a loss, says Stevens

      I call BS to this.

      If you look at the average price per Barrel at a US refiner, it's going to be somewhere aroun $110 a barrel right now. If the average cost per gallon is 3.52, that is high enough.

      42 gallons to a barrel, = sales price of $147.84, taking out taxes, that is still enough to operate. Not to mention that US refineries in particular draw on Mexico, Venezuela, Canada, and oh yeah, the US itself (where 40% of the oil used comes from). They pay much lower prices for this oil as cost is cheap on the transportation side.

      On the cost of oil, it's probably higher than it should be, especially given consumption hasn't gone up significant;y in about 7 years, there was a big jump from 2000-2005, but not so much from 2005-2011.

      • 1 vote
      #1.28 - Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:31 PM EST
      follow the money

      here, nicey,

      regarding rising oil prices,

      and the CFTC, Commodity Future Trading Commission:

      http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=384aa6e1-4c34-476a-a1e7-fce25351c4df

      • 1 vote
      #1.29 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:49 AM EST
      follow the money

      another one,

      on oil speculators, controlling the markets:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Pc9utzawQ

      • 1 vote
      #1.30 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:14 AM EST
      BeMyJellyfish

      Hey Ripley,

      Thanks for the foul mouth and by the way, there is no such word as "irregardless."

      Besides that, you call BS on my post, but your response has nothing to do with my statement. The point being that the arguement was about making it illegal for US investors to trade in commodities. It had nothing to do with them investing in foreign markets. Those investors you cite would not be able to trade in commodities so it doesn't matter where they do business.

      • 1 vote
      #1.31 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:42 AM EST
      Nicey-1026620

      Oh I'm sure speculation plays a role.

      But putting it simply, the world produces about the exact amount of oil It consumes everyday. So the price is about 80% real. In fact, in some of the years of the 2000s the world produced on average less than it consumed. Meaning it drew from supplies to meet ends.

      The 2008 peak was pushed by speculators. And that does suck. But the price needs to be high to get new resources. The US pushing it down for all the 80s/90s was irresponsible. Keeping the taxes on gas much lower than other industrialized countries was also a mistake. We supported low mile cars and sand bagged mass transportation by subsidizing people to drive.

      • 1 vote
      #1.32 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:55 PM EST
      follow the money

      found another one..

      "Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur Explains How Oil Companies Hava A Crisis Every Decade To Gouge Us"

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpyheU-kz8

      the power of a woman with brains, and spunk!

      • 1 vote
      #1.33 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:17 AM EST
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      TooManyPuppies

      cue republicans to pretend this is all Obama's fault and Bush never had gas above a dollar.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:30 AM EST
      FLYNAVY1

      I still love this chart that indicates that under Obama we are pumping more domestic oil than we did back since 2004....

      http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=us&product=oil&graph=production

      What do you think this did for the price-supply-demand curves (with the speculators help mind you) back before the 2008 crash?

      • 8 votes
      #2.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:42 AM EST
      1standlastword

      What do you think this did for the price-supply-demand curves (with the speculators help mind you) back before the 2008 crash?

      It's a game the monied play and the 99% will never be able to compete. We are forced to play by their rules. And for them this is the way it should be.

      Now to your question.

      My intuition informs me that big industry is FOR big industry. The Bush wars naturally caused a huge spike in demand and prices remained low because these corporate phuckers KNOW what they lose on the swings they can make up for on the rollercoaster and that would be the sweaty back of American workers

      Before the next 100 years are up we might be voting with pistols and rifles.

      Some future generation of fed up Americans is going to call this bull$hit game to a halt and wipe the slate clean.

      We today were unfortunately born to suffer this slow death by a thousand cuts

      • 3 votes
      #2.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:27 AM EST
      FLYNAVY1

      Some future generation of fed up Americans is going to call this bull$hit game to a halt and wipe the slate clean.

      I say why wait... I think this generation is sufficiently pissed off now to get the job done.

      • 4 votes
      #2.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:46 PM EST
      1standlastword

      I think this generation is sufficiently pissed off now to get the job done.

      Boy...wish I could be so optimistic about this generation. I just don't see the political will or the populus unified in critical mass enough to cause a systemic change in the economic policies of priviledge that oppress the people of America.

      You say "pissed" yes there's plenty of anger but even anger today has two faces: liberal and conservative. The whore politicians exploit populus anger and incorporate it into their get rich schemes.

      Thomas Frank, author of Pity the Billionaire, illustrates how after the right created the conditions that facilitated Wall Street's plot to blowup the economy exploited "pissed"/ populus anger held in reserve for Wall Street and turned it on BIG GOVERNMENT.

      This generation is plenty pissed but not unified with a common sense of human justice.

      The 99% is truely something significantly less than 99%.

      Until some future time when we have a true 99% nothing of real significance is going to change.

      When there is a true 99% the 1% will be FORCED to change or DIE grasping their gold and diamonds gained from cheating, lying and stealing.

      Until then I think this generation will suffer the death of one thousands cuts...one entitlement at a time until diseases we once under control return with a vengence, starvation and homelessness of the masses becomes commonplace in every major city in American, rampant crime of the most heineous variety begins to happen in families and neighborhoods...just notice how much violence is enacted upon children nowadays.

      Hopefulness is necessary, yes, but hopefulness without a unified will is hope in vain. We're in this suffering for the long haul and the 1% know it which is why they appear so phucking heartless and un-Jesus like

      • 1 vote
      #2.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:43 PM EST
      Reply
      BostonMan-3128434

      Cue the liberals to somehow bring up Bush

      • 5 votes
      #3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:37 AM EST
      takeoutdaCONS

      Daddys little war criminal with the room temp iq?

      • 9 votes
      #3.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:49 AM EST
      BostonMan-3128434

      Daddys little war criminal with the room temp iq?

      And yet he still had better grades than John Kerry and Al Gore - Hmm what does that mean their IQ is ? And well i'd compare Bush's grades to Obama but well no one knows Obama's grades do they ?

      But thanks for your post - Have a good day

      • 6 votes
      #3.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:07 AM EST
      TooManyPuppies

      right wingers just love to make crap up

      Bostonman, have a problem with me bringing up bush when yall spit that Obama is carter mach II? Yall are too @!$%#ing much, no one can do what the right does. THe right always inherits recessions but dare be a lefty and mention the recession started on the right wing watch and they cry like a 4 year old. Pathetic really.

      anyways back to right wingers and their propensity to just make @!$%# up on the spot and act like it is history.

      HE IS AL GORES HAVARD GRADES COMPARES TO THE SHRUB AT YALE

      www.insidepolitics.org/heard/heard32300.html

      as you can see overall Gore beat Bush(especially in economics) what the right wingers are trying to spin, see one single solitary semester Gore got worst grades than bush ever did.... barely.

      www.wnd.com/2002/03/13043/

      in his sophomore year at Harvard," according to The Washington Post, " Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale [emphasis added]."

      see without teh QUALIFIER THAT IT WAS ONE SINGLE SOLITARY SEMESTER you are talking about, then you are just spewing right wing bull@!$%#.

      bush did beat kerry but it was 77 to 76.. not exactly anything to crow about.

      Kerry also beat Bush in economics.

      OBAMA KICKED ALL THEIR ASSES. HARVARD IS ALSO RANKED HIGHER THAN YALE WORLD WIDE.

      • 6 votes
      #3.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:30 AM EST
      gillanator

      And yet he still had better grades than John Kerry and Al Gore - Hmm what does that mean their IQ is ?

      Better than Kerry. I'm not sure about Gore though.

      http://www.insidepolitics.org/heard/heard32300.html

      But this is really about something a little different. What do we need to do to get government working for the people instead of big money?

      And can anyone show me where corporations are mentioned in the constitution? Because I can show where the people is mentioned.

      • 5 votes
      #3.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:31 AM EST
      weRdoomed

      Cue the liberals to somehow bring up Bush

      Strange way to confess you're a liberal, BostonMan-3128434.

      • 4 votes
      #3.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:38 AM EST
      mountainmike-1199289

      We don't need to bring up Bush. Look at the near record breaking profits of ExxonMobile, Chevron and other big oil corporations. They are EXPORTING oil to other countries. They have also bought up leases for drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and are sitting on those leases instead of drilling. They are manipulating the market prices. In short, PRICE GOUGING.

      We are going through the same type of oil/gas price spike as we did in 2008 and 2010. Oil speculators exploit a news story - for example the closing of oil wells in Libya during their civil war. Then they start a speculation feeding frenzy, like sharks that sense blood in the water. Oil was bought and sold two dozen or more times before it reached the pumps as gasoline. That generally doubled the price, even though OPEC increased production to compensate for Libya. There was no supply issue at all.

      Currently, the Iran - US stand off in the Gulf of Harmuz is the news they are exploiting for a similar feeding frenzy. MSNBC and other news sources need to simply track the sheer volume of trading in oil to highlight who is jacking up the prices.

      The leader of the pack, of course, is Goldman Sachs. Matt Taibbi at Rolling Stone wrote about this in The Great American Bubble Machine.

      http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405

      Scroll down to page 5. Wall Street giants had to turn to something other than paper scams because no one trusted them anymore. They have focused on futures and commodities we depend upon daily, such as gas, wheat, corn, rice, coffee, sugar, etc...

      • 4 votes
      #3.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:39 AM EST
      garrisonbye

      Look at the near record breaking profits of ExxonMobile

      Didn't GM just report their highest profit ever? Where is the taspayer's dividend check? Why is profit OK for GM but not for Exxon?

      • 4 votes
      #3.7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:52 AM EST
      SmallTownPete

      And yet he still had better grades than John Kerry and Al Gore - Hmm what does that mean their IQ is ?

      Are you going to retract this statement? Or should I just bring it up everytime you post so called facts from now on?

      • 3 votes
      #3.8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:55 AM EST
      Cygnus_X-1

      BTW, grades and IQ are totally different measurements of comprehension and intelligence. Though you're likely to have someone with good grades having a higher IQ and vice versa, there are also more than a few exceptions that get good grades, but test lower with IQ, and vice verse.

      I tend to consider Bush Jr. based upon his performance as president, than as he was as a college drunk and coke imbiber. The guy who blew away a budget surplus by buying american votes in that tax credit/refund he gave everyone. The guy who blew up our national debt with 2 foreign wars, Medicare Plan B, and tax breaks for the rich and corporations. THe guy who led us into the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression. The guy who GAVE government more power than ever with the Patriot Act, and yet right-wingers continually harp on less government. The guy who removed the "good will" America shared around the world, and put in place paranoia, suspicion, and hatred of America around the world. Yes, "W" can be graded on plenty for his "work" in 8 years, rather than going back to the ancient history of his college days.

      • 4 votes
      #3.9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:58 AM EST
      BostonMan-3128434

      Toomanypuppies you need to relax - WOW - I did not say Gore got a worse SAT score did i?

      Your idol Gore not as smart as you thought? Why do you hate facts ?

      Gore's Grades Belie Image of Studiousness

      His School Transcripts Are a Lot Like Bush's

      Gore arrived at Harvard with an impressive 1355 SAT score, 625 verbal and 730 math, compared with Bush's 1206 total from 566 verbal and 640 math. In his sophomore year at Harvard, Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale. That was the year Gore's classmates remember him spending a notable amount of time in the Dunster House basement lounge shooting pool, watching television, eating hamburgers and occasionally smoking marijuana. His grades temporarily reflected his mildly experimental mood, and alarmed his parents. He received one D, one C-minus, two C's, two C-pluses and one B-minus, an effort that placed him in the lower fifth of the class for the second year in a row.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A37397-2000Mar18

      OBAMA KICKED ALL THEIR ASSES. HARVARD IS ALSO RANKED HIGHER THAN YALE WORLD WIDE.

      Do you have the transcripts to prove that? Yeh i didn't think so

      bush did beat kerry but it was 77 to 76.. not exactly anything to crow about.

      Oh pointing out facts is now " crowing"

      Now settle down and relax - The seed was about Oil prices not - YOU chose to bring up Bush - typical liberal ploy by some on here

      • 2 votes
      #3.10 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:00 AM EST
      BostonMan-3128434

      On to graduate school. In 1971, Gore enrolled in Vanderbilt Divinity School. The Washington Times says, “It is said that Mr. Gore failed to hand in his book report on time. Thus, his incomplete grade turned into an F, one of five Fs Mr. Gore received at divinity school, which may well be a worldwide record.” He later dropped out.

      Gore then enrolled in law school, but also failed to finish. The Boston Globe said, “Nor did Gore graduate from Vanderbilt Law School, where he enrolled for a brief time and received his fair share of Cs.”

      http://www.wnd.com/2002/03/13043/

      Yeh that Al Gore was a great scholar puppies

      • 1 vote
      #3.11 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:06 AM EST
      BostonMan-3128434

      as you can see overall Gore beat Bush(especially in economics) what the right wingers are trying to spin, see one single solitary semester Gore got worst grades than bush ever did.... barely.

      Gee you are only looking at his grades at Harvard - What about his grades at graduate school? Did you forget those puppies? And his grades before dropping out of law school? Do those not count puppies?

      • 1 vote
      #3.12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:11 AM EST
      garrisonbye

      We really don't know what kind of grades Mr Obama made. He wouldn't release his transcript from Columbia. Maybe he's not as bright as you guys think.

      • 2 votes
      #3.13 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:20 AM EST
      fernando-2143457

      I thought this was about gas prices.

      • 1 vote
      #3.14 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:50 AM EST
      gillanator

      Gee you are only looking at his grades at Harvard

      Bush was a crappy president. You are making a losing argument. Oh by the way, I know the mission is complete but where are the WMDs?

      • 3 votes
      #3.15 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:13 PM EST
      garrisonbye

      where are the WMDs

      Aren't they in Iran now?

        #3.16 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:08 PM EST
        hww

        They are in Washington DC. and working overtime.

        • 1 vote
        #3.17 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:12 PM EST
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        takeoutdaCONS

        Crony ,immoral, unethical FIXED Capitalism=oligarchy=plutocracy

        Sub culture=sub humans freakin sheeple drones for the ruling class..

        • 2 votes
        Reply#4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:48 AM EST
        gotme!!

        It's the only way Government can get an increase in revenue . They certainly won't consider cutting salaries or spending or balancing a budget or cutting back on debt or reducing Departments or employees . Just let all the people lose jobs and pay for their mistakes .

        Spend more...print more money ... borrow more...that's the answer ...sarc

        • 1 vote
        Reply#5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:54 AM EST
        TooManyPuppies

        except none of that is true.

        Not sure how higher gas prices increase gov revenues much since the tax for gas is fixed. yeah they get some microscopic increases i sales taxes due to prices rising, but you do know sales taxes are local?

        WE havent been printing money like crazy, that is more right wing bull@!$%#, had we been printing money like crazy, like yall claim, gas should be at $6 by now or higher. Matter of fact in 2009 and 2010 our money supply declined. It increased last year due to qe2. Dont make up BS, like republicans do. Look the @!$%# up.

        ALso most of Obamas spending is temporary in nature. Building up infrastructure and attacking the recession bush left for him. You do know we used to have a surplus and Obama is working on sending us back in that direction? Unlike Bush's new spending, nearly all of Obamas new non emergency spending, has been paid for by cuts to other programs.

        Yes sometimes when you are not making enough money, smart people spend more, er borrow more. THey go to college and improve themselves, open a second store, get new cheaper equipment for their first store. Recessions are a great time to borrow and spend. WHAT IS MEGA STUPID, is when the government is making surpluses but we are still 5 trillion in debt, to cut the governments revenue by 2 trillion right before increasing spending by a trillion with the unfunded medicare plan D. That what people who get d's in economics do.

        • 1 vote
        #5.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:38 AM EST
        mountainmike-1199289

        Printing out paper money? Alan Greenspan at the Fed did that to fuel the largest white collar crime wave in our history - what we are calling the recession of 2008. Then Ben Bernacke at the Fed printed out paper money to bail out the Wall Street giant white collar criminals.

        It is a factor right now, but printing out money like that causes inflation.

        • 2 votes
        #5.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:46 AM EST
        gotme!!

        Government employee!

          #5.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:28 PM EST
          gotme!!

          Good post mountainmike

          Printing out paper money? Alan Greenspan at the Fed did that to fuel the largest white collar crime wave in our history - what we are calling the recession of 2008. Then Ben Bernacke at the Fed printed out paper money to bail out the Wall Street giant white collar criminals.

          It is a factor right now, but printing out money like that causes inflation.

            #5.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:38 PM EST
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            fstwarrior

            Last Friday, driving home from the airport, the price of Unleaded at our corner station read $3.59 while the Shell station up the street read $3.69. This morning while driving past both stations to the BART, the corner station price is $3.95 and the Shell price is $4.05 - a $.36 increase in 7 days. Why? Because a Cali paper said the price of gas was going to reach $5.00 by summer. So, as all good Cali businesses do, prices get jacked to meet the prophecies.

            Methinks regulation of the gas industry needs to come back - in full swing. Exxon is moaning because it is projected that they will ONLY make $10.7 BILLION in profit for the first three months of 2012. Shell jumped on the bandwagon about their MEASLY $8.6B projected PROFIT. For those of you that are out of the loop, PROFIT is what is left after all taxes/expenses have been paid. Can any of you fathom making $42.8 BILLION in PROFIT in 12 months - one company????

            Yup - regulation of the gas industry again - perfect sense.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:12 AM EST
            mountainmike-1199289

            This is why consumers are not consuming like the did before the recession. Their family budgets are being consumed by putting gas in the tank, food on the table for the family and keeping a roof over their heads. In the meantime, our largest and richest corporations are raking in profits hand over fist, outsourcing jobs, and investing off shore. Job creators? Maybe in China where workers have 12 hour shifts for $17 a day with no benefits and live in company dorms between shifts.

            • 3 votes
            #6.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:50 AM EST
            gotme!!

            Good post mountainmike

            This is why consumers are not consuming like the did before the recession. Their family budgets are being consumed by putting gas in the tank, food on the table for the family and keeping a roof over their heads. In the meantime, our largest and richest corporations are raking in profits hand over fist, outsourcing jobs, and investing off shore. Job creators? Maybe in China where workers have 12 hour shifts for $17 a day with no benefits and live in company dorms between shifts.

            • 1 vote
            #6.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:35 PM EST
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            Manic Drummer

            Gas will be back up to $4/gallon, by how does a rent increase fit into all this? My old landlord in Madison, Wisconsin rarely came out to fix anything and I paid through the nose in heating bills because one of the walls had the insulation ripped out of it during remodeling.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:12 AM EST
            radar015

            The experts predict gas by the end of the year will be up to $5/gallon. At the peak, it reached close to that in some places. People were paying $4.60/gallon. This stuff has to go up because it is running out. Speculators are drawn to speculate on this stuff for that reason. Many are praying for war with Iran. That will be a dream come true.

              #7.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:02 AM EST
              fstwarrior

              Running out???? We have a surplus and are shipping more overseas than we are using in country - check the Pew Reports.

              • 3 votes
              #7.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:20 AM EST
              radar015

              You know Lake Erie, right? The amount of oil left in the world is equal to the water in Lake Erie. Unlike Lake Erie which has rain and river water pouring into it, that amount of oil in that equivalent lake has no raining of oil or rivers of oil pouring into it. When you use up one barrel of oil, it is gone forever. It is non replenishable. At the rate all the cars in the world are taped into that lake of oil, it is going to run out and sooner than you would like to believe. In the hundred or so years we really began using this stuff, that Lake Erie is estimated to be half the world's oil we started with. In other words, we began with two Lake Eries. We have one left and the oil that we can get out of this last of two Lake Eries is a whole lot harder getting at. Not only is it running out, but it is going to cost a whole lot more to get at.

                #7.3 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:31 AM EST
                Nicey-1026620

                Running out???? We have a surplus and are shipping more overseas than we are using in country - check the Pew Reports.

                ....?

                We are shipping pretroluem refined products overseas. Not crude oil.

                And we're certainly not shipping *more than we consume*, we consume about 18.8 million BPD currently of "all petroluem products"

                We're shipping a few million BPD overseas of refined products. How is a few million barrels more than 18.8 million barrels?

                  #7.4 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:13 PM EST
                  radar015

                  Pew Report? They say we are shipping out more than we are using? Well, we are using around 21 million barrels of the stuff every day. The Pew Report says we are shipping out more than we are using? The math don't work. BTW, we only produce in this country just over 5 million barrels per day

                    #7.5 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:13 PM EST
                    fstwarrior

                    I don't write it - I just read it.

                      #7.6 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:16 PM EST
                      radar015

                      I rechecked our oil production figures in the US. It was just over 5 million barrels, but contrary to what people say about Obama, under his policies, he actually encouraged greater production, ramped it up to 7.5 million barrels per day, the highest since 2002. I didn't see that coming. But our usage hasn't gone down - still at 21 million barrels. That Pew Report couldn't be right. I wish it was. The idea that we shipping out more oil than we are producing here in this country is preposterous.

                        #7.7 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:21 PM EST
                        Nicey-1026620

                        Not only is it running out, but it is going to cost a whole lot more to get at.

                        Prices at $100 a barrel are more than enough to explore a wide variety of additional capacity.

                        Which is coming on more every day. Allows deeper ocean drilling, sands, shale, etc. Of course, gradually these fuels will be replaced. Perhaps with NGL (natural gas liquid). Perhaps with a combination of fuels and other sources.

                          #7.8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:21 PM EST
                          Nicey-1026620

                          I rechecked our oil production figures in the US. It was just over 5 million barrels, but contrary to what people say about Obama, under his policies, he ramped it up to 7.5 million barrels per day, the highest since 2002. I didn't see that coming. But our usage hasn't gone done. That Pew Report couldn't be right. I wish it was. The idea that we shipping out more oil that we are producing more oil here in this country is preposterous.

                          Our usage is down a lot.

                          http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WGFUPUS2&f=W

                          Motor gasoline

                          http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WRPUPUS2&f=W

                          Refined products

                          http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRFPUS2&f=W

                          Crude oil production.

                          You have to bear in mind though, there's fuel production aside from crude oil that goes into refined products. Like ethanol. Or NGL (natural gas liquids).

                          http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCEIMUS2&f=W

                          Imports have also declined.

                            #7.9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:26 PM EST
                            Nicey-1026620

                            Well, we are using around 21 million barrels of the stuff every day.

                            We use around 14.6 million barrels of *crude oil* a day.

                            http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCEIMUS2&f=W

                            http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRFPUS2&f=W

                            Imports are 8.8 million BPD, Field production domestically is 5.8 million BPD.

                            This is of *crude oil* not other products, which we also produce/import.

                            That's 14.6 million BPD of crude oil.

                              #7.10 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:29 PM EST
                              radar015

                              Nicey, I agree with your figures. I was surprised to see our consumption has dropped with a peak back in 2008 of 19.6 barrels per day. I am not advocating production of fossil fuels as the solution to the problem or even conservation. I am for renewable energy and that we must use what we have left in fossil fuels to transition us away from fossil fuels the sooner the better.

                                #7.11 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:38 PM EST
                                Nicey-1026620

                                I am for renewable energy and that we must use what we have left in fossil fuels to transition us away from fossil fuels the sooner the better.

                                I am hopeful for that as well.

                                Unfortunately, the true alternative of electric cars/mass transportation/or some system that runs of the national electrical grid, is not within reach immediately. Maybe over decades, but it will take time.

                                In the meantime, if we can get additional production in a responsible way (take environmental precautions) we should use those resources.

                                Natural Gas in particular could be big and could happen quick. In the 70s, heavy truck/semi switched from gasoline to diesel in a matter of years. And it was all because diesel was much cheaper at the time.

                                Natural Gas is much, much cheaper than gasoline right now. And heavy trucks can be converted quickly. There's a few logistical issues, but we are able to transport liquid natural gas in pipelines. And the savings at current prices is pretty massive.

                                On the demand side, you have a combination of people demanding better fuel efficiency, when the price hit 3-4 dollars a gallon in 2007/2008 people changed habits, then in 2008 with the recession we have less people working now than back then, and also people have to be more careful on budgets, so they watch gasoline.

                                  #7.12 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:12 PM EST
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                                  radar015

                                  They blame speculators for the increase in gas prices. But speculators speculate because they know gas in running out and they ain't making any more of it. We are using too much of this stuff and this stuff is running out. There is no way getting around that and solving the speculation. People will continue to speculate because the stuff is getting scarcer and that is what speculators like to speculate on. If there was an unlimited supply, then speculators wouldn't bother speculating on this stuff, they would look for other things that are becoming scarce. The one thing they can't run out of is wind and sun. Once we develop renewable energy from wind and solar and geothermal, the speculators will stop speculating on gas supplies. I won't feel sorry for the gas speculators when that happens.

                                    Reply#8 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:57 AM EST
                                    nmbg

                                    Gas and clothing? Is that all? Really?

                                    Anyone who's been in a grocery store in recent years knows that the price of food has been skyrocketing with no end in sight. Smaller and smaller packaging is just a deceptive way of hiding inflation.

                                    Food prices are under pressure, not only because of increased fuel costs, but because of corn, which finds itself under pressure due to government ethanol (corn) mandates. So now we have the food supply competing with the fuel supply, and the Obuma regime sitting on its liberal ass so as to appease the environmental wack-jobs that it relies on for its very existence.

                                    No to the pipeline. All-out assault on mining. No to domestic production. No to refineries. Nothing but imports from hostile nations, corn mandates, corn subsidies and billions of wasted taxpayer dollars on fraudulent green energy pet projects that are nothing but left wing political front groups. This is corruption at its ugliest.

                                    And where is the left wing media, the champions of the ordinary citizen, on this one, as the 99% get screwed by the colossal failures of the Obuma regime?

                                      Reply#9 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:57 AM EST
                                      jpokergman

                                      The Economic law of Supply and Demand will eventually cause companies such as Cummins to make a long term decision, and re-tool to Natural Gas at a 75-80% long term discount per Btu unit of thermal output. Once they are "Confident" of the long term reserves.

                                      http://seekingalpha.com/article/373951-state-of-the-union-ignites-natural-gas-companies?source=yahoo

                                      Once such a "Decision", is made, it will take about 18 months to work its way all the way through the pump and bring gasoline down to .55 cents a gallon on a collapsed overshoot. That is the extent of the refineries throughout the civilised nations.

                                      They are growing more concerned by increasing political instability in the Middle East.

                                      So the Very success of President Obama's energy plan, has had the unintended consequence of of temporarily pressuring Oil and Gas prices.

                                      I for one, consider this a great success on the part of President Obama. I believe most people are clueless of the aspect of his Policy's. Maybe people get ostracized here on the vine for expressing any original thoughts.

                                      Natural Gas will be liquified, and stored. Its price will continue to pressure other fossil fuels. The President's Policies will continue to pressure the middle East into diversification, and when engine makers switch from Gasoline/Diesel To NatGas/Electric, we ought to experience quite a boom. IF we don't frack it up!

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#10 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:04 PM EST
                                      nmbg

                                      So the Very success of President Obama's energy plan, has had the unintended consequence of of temporarily pressuring Oil and Gas prices.

                                      And the award for the most creative excuses of all time goes to . . . the indoctrinated left.

                                        #10.1 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:54 PM EST
                                        jpokergman

                                        I am neither left nor right. I speak my own mind and manage to offend many.

                                        Having read your previous blathering, I notice that you repeat ad nausea the basic GOP line. So that begs the question....Who is the indoctrinated one?

                                        However if you have a specific point of contention, and think your solution is better, I have quite an open mind, and would be delighted to hear any "Original" thoughts in this matter.

                                        It is quite easy to take shots at someone else's analysis.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #10.2 - Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:09 PM EST
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                                        Fejj

                                        Glad I bought a bicycle four years ago.

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