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Santorum blasts Obama's motives on power, abortion

Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:33 PM EST
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Charles Babington, Associated Press
Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum says the health care law is an example of the government overreaching its constitutional boundaries.
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<p>Republican presidential candidate, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, left, says the Pledge of Allegiance during a campaign stop at the Maricopa County Lincoln Day Luncheon, Tuesday, Feb. 21, 2012, in Phoenix, Arizona.  (AP Photo/Eric Gay)</p>

Republican presidential candidate, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, left, says the Pledge of Allegiance during a campaign stop at the Maricopa County Lincoln Day Luncheon, Tuesday, Feb. 21, 2012, in Phoenix, Arizona. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

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PHOENIX — A surging Rick Santorum is making increasingly harsh remarks about President Barack Obama, questioning not just the president's competence but his motives and even his Christian values.

Mitt Romney also is sharpening his anti-Obama rhetoric. He said Tuesday the president governs with "a secular agenda" that hurts religious freedom. In general, however, the former Massachusetts governor has not seriously challenged Obama's motives, often saying the president is decent but inept.

But Santorum and Newt Gingrich have heightened their claims that Obama's intentions are not always benign, ahead of Wednesday's televised GOP presidential debate and next week's primaries in Michigan and Arizona.

Santorum, the former Pennsylvania senator who suddenly is threatening Romney in his native state of Michigan, says Obama cares only about power, not the "interests of people." He says "Obamacare," the health care overhaul Obama enacted, includes a "hidden message" about the president's disregard for impaired fetuses, which might be aborted.

Santorum even seemed to compare Obama to Adolf Hitler, although he denies trying to do so.

Santorum's remarks have gotten only scattered attention because he weaves them into long, sometimes rambling speeches. Romney's team is monitoring Santorum's comments, privately suggesting they could hurt him in a general election.

But it's difficult for Romney to openly criticize Santorum on these points because Romney already has trouble appealing to the party's socially conservative base. Santorum's remarks could come up in Wednesday's debate in Mesa, Ariz., sponsored by CNN.

Gingrich, campaigning Monday in Oklahoma, called Obama "the most dangerous president in modern American history." Gingrich said the administration's "willful dishonesty" about alleged terrorists' motives threatens the country.

Gingrich has long been known for over-the-top rhetoric, and Santorum's rapid rise in the polls has drawn much of the campaign's focus away from the former House speaker.

Some of Santorum's remarks echo attacks on Obama during the 2008 presidential race, when critics portrayed him as a mysterious politician with hidden motives and questionable allegiance to the United States. More recent examples include:

_Saturday in Columbus, Ohio, Santorum criticized Obama for requiring health insurance plans to cover prenatal testing. He said such tests lead to "more abortions and therefore less care that has to be done, because we cull the ranks of the disabled in our society. That too is part of Obamacare, another hidden message as to what President Obama thinks of those who are less able than the elites who want to govern our country."

Obama campaign spokeswoman Lis Smith said "prenatal screenings are essential to promote the health of both the mother and baby and to ensure safe deliveries."

_On Monday in Steubenville, Ohio, Santorum said Obama "talks about how he's going to help manufacturing, after he systematically destroyed it. You pick any area. Financial services. One after another, where he has this ideology of government-centralized control. Not worried about the interests of people. He's worried about the interest of power so he can dictate to people what he believes is best."

Independent analysts say U.S. manufacturing was in steep decline before Obama took office in 2009. Many economists credit Obama's stimulus packages with keeping the job losses from being considerably worse.

_At the same Ohio event, Santorum said Obama and his fellow Democrats have raised unfounded fears about hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking," in which pressurized fluids are pumped into the ground to extract natural gas. Santorum said Obama wants to unfairly regulate fracking "as if this is some new technology out there that we don't know anything about, and we have to be worried about." Santorum said the administration tells Americans, "Ooh, we've got to be scared, we've got to be scared of this technology that's producing the cheapest natural gas and oil....Why? So we can get your dollars, turn it to politicians who can win elections so they can control your lives."

_Also in Steubenville, Santorum said Obama encourages a trend in which the church, religious-affiliated colleges and civic institutions grow weaker while government grows stronger.

"We all know that one of the ways that government has been able to accumulate power is to do so by weakening the institutions that people rely upon," he said. "When they can rely upon them, these stable, mediating institutions in our culture, they don't need government."

"That's why it's not surprising to see the president's assault on, first, charities," Santorum said. "You recall one of his first tax proposals was to limit charitable deductions — charitable deductions to those mediating institutions," which include colleges, churches and civic organizations.

_Speaking Sunday at First Redeemer Church in Cumming, Ga., Santorum said people who shrug off troubling signs about Obama are like those Americans who ignored the growing fascist menace in Europe before World War II. "Your country needs you. It's not as clear a challenge," Santorum said. "Obviously, World War II was pretty obvious. At some point, they knew. But remember, the Greatest Generation, for a year and a half, sat on the sidelines while Europe was under darkness, where our closest ally, Britain, was being bombed and leveled, while Japan was spreading its cancer all throughout Southeast Asia. America sat from 1940, when France fell, to December of '41, and did almost nothing.

"Why? Because we're a hopeful people. We think, `Well, you know, he'll get better. You know, he's a nice guy. I mean, it won't be near as bad as what we think. This will be OK.' Oh yeah, maybe he's not the best guy, and after a while, you found out things about this guy over in Europe, and he's not so good of a guy after all."

Asked by a reporter Monday if he was comparing Obama to Hitler, Santorum said "No, of course not."

White House spokesman Jay Carney declined Tuesday to get drawn into a point-by-point rebuttal of Santorum's comments. He said Obama "is focused on his job as president, getting this country moving in the right direction, ensuring that the recovery, which is under way, continues forward."

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Associated Press writers Kasie Hunt in Michigan and Ben Feller in Washington contributed to this report.

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thisbusymonster

Santorum even seemed to compare Obama to Adolf Hitler, although he denied trying to do so.

I smell desperation, soon to become outright panic.

  • 36 votes
#1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:00 PM EST
trm2008

Santorum makes outrageous comments, and then doesn't have the balls to admit that he made them. Santorum's motives are pretty obvious--he wants to be president. What a gutless wonder!

  • 43 votes
#1.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:05 PM EST
GaryColumbus

Santorum's just another evangelical who spends too much time on his knees for the wrong reasons! Like for his corporate campaign financiers with his mouth open!

  • 28 votes
#1.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:07 PM EST
Nicey-1026620

"Why? Because we're a hopeful people. We think, `Well, you know, he'll get better. You know, he's a nice guy. I mean, it won't be near as bad as what we think. This will be OK.' Oh yeah, maybe he's not the best guy, and after a while, you found out things about this guy over in Europe, and he's not so good of a guy after all."

Oh, not a direct comparison. Just an alluding to it, so you can put those images side by side.

Maybe America was smart to wait...unlike other people who seem to think they are smarter today by pre-emptively striking other nations.

If this guy wins the nomination, it will be scary. I know in national polls he looks weaker than Romney in a heads up match, but I just have this nagging feeling he will appeal to the darkest corners of the far right.

And by default, the rest of the republicans will vote for him just because he's not Obama.

  • 21 votes
#1.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST
real michaud

I hope Santorum is the nominee so we can eviscerate him in public. I would love to just bring them down hard and embarrass him for even being born.

  • 18 votes
#1.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:13 PM EST
Disturbedlibrarian

The more Santorum talks the better I like it! He is going to talk himself right out of the election. The man is a complete wing-nut and the only agenda he has is pushing evangelical, ultra-right wing conservatism on all of us. If we don't think like him then we are all sinners. Personally I welcome a president who governs from the secular viewpoint. Can you say "separation of church and state"? It's in the constitution, get your head out of the Bible and read it. I am a Christian too and you embarrass me Santorum.

  • 17 votes
#1.5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST
real michaud

america is secular....but of course the Conservative Catholics, evangalicals, and Mormons want to bring us back to the puritanical times. Can't chew gum and walk on Sunday according to these bozos.

  • 17 votes
#1.6 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:20 PM EST
Concerned Citizen-1303521

"Blast". I see this word used more and more in headlines. Does it just mean 'angry rant'?

I always assumed these 'blasts', 'slams', etc descriptors needed to be referencing something intelligible and at least somewhat accurate.

I mean, if I just say "Santorum supports terrorist organizations", did I just 'blast' him?

  • 6 votes
#1.7 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:21 PM EST
Emmadadog

I'd like to ask him the age-old question of who died and made him God. But, there is no doubt in my mind that he'd tell me.

Is this evil man sane? Probably only in theory, not in reality.

UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHUDDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHUDDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHUDDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 16 votes
#1.8 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:22 PM EST
Severed Head in a Jar

Mitt Romney also is sharpening his anti-Obama rhetoric. He said Tuesday the president governs with "a secular agenda" that hurts religious freedom.

That's the whole point of separation of church and state, isn't it? To govern with a "secular agenda."

  • 20 votes
#1.9 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:25 PM EST
J-DOGGIN

These pro-life candidates can suck my left one! For the love of Christ, it is 2012! If a woman wishes to hoe about and eliminate the potential life long problem afterwards, or better yet prevent it in the first place... more power to her. Like wise, if my wife decides we aren't having children and wants to abort our unborn children.. more power to her. If god doesn't like my opinion... F-him too.

-Disgruntled Catholic-

  • 7 votes
#1.10 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:38 PM EST
thisbusymonster

"Blast". I see this word used more and more in headlines

I've been seeing that word for 20 years in the media. Also "So-and-so Vows" to do something.

Very common coin for the brain-dead media of our era. No originality whatsoever.

  • 7 votes
#1.11 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:42 PM EST
Dr. Reid

Santorum... The living embodiment of ignorance.

  • 23 votes
#1.12 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:55 PM EST
Monkey99

I'd like for once, he explain his incessant, continuous extremist projection vomiting.

That would be a start.

  • 12 votes
#1.13 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:57 PM EST
ERich-356044

Well said Monkey!

  • 8 votes
#1.14 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:11 PM EST
Vooda

Just waiting and biding my time until the republicans decide which clown they hate the least to represent them........then Obama will slice and dice whichever moron is representing. Can you imagine the republican asshat candidate debating Obama.....roflmao!

  • 11 votes
#1.15 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:24 PM EST
Holly-348328

Is anyone else buying the Cheshire cat grin?

  • 7 votes
#1.16 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:18 PM EST
Maggie-602935

Gosh, and all this time I thought Paul Ryan was the Antichrist. Silly me... :)

  • 5 votes
#1.17 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:20 PM EST
Colodomom

Santorum, the former Pennsylvania senator who suddenly is threatening Romney in his native state of Michigan, says Obama cares only about power, not the "interests of people." He says "Obamacare," the health care overhaul Obama enacted, includes a "hidden message" about the president's disregard for impaired fetuses, which might be aborted.

Impaired fetuses. Interesting choice of words there.

Seriously Santorum...I know you had a horrible experience when your wife had this problem and I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

http://garystlawrence.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/santorum-no-woman-can-ever-have-an-abortion-except-my-wife/

Perhaps some prozac and counselling are in order...instead of...ya know...trying to control OTHER people's families.

Some of Santorum's remarks echo attacks on Obama during the 2008 presidential race, when critics portrayed him as a mysterious politician with hidden motives and questionable allegiance to the United States. More recent examples include:

_Saturday in Columbus, Ohio, Santorum criticized Obama for requiring health insurance plans to cover prenatal testing. He said such tests lead to "more abortions and therefore less care that has to be done, because we cull the ranks of the disabled in our society. That too is part of Obamacare, another hidden message as to what President Obama thinks of those who are less able than the elites who want to govern our country."

??

Prenatal testing is the norm. It protects women and fetuses. Nobody is being forced to end ANY pregnancy.

Elites Santorum? You mean like YOU?

Santorum's 2010 salary - $923,000 - placed him squarely within the top 1% of income earners in America.

http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/multimillionaire-santorum-woos-blue-collar-voters-4732833

_On Monday in Steubenville, Ohio, Santorum said Obama "talks about how he's going to help manufacturing, after he systematically destroyed it. You pick any area. Financial services. One after another, where he has this ideology of government-centralized control. Not worried about the interests of people. He's worried about the interest of power so he can dictate to people what he believes is best."

Interesting Santorum...how you said "pick any area" and then promptly skipped OVER the auto industry and went right to the banks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/us/politics/in-detroit-santorum-defends-opposition-to-auto-bailout.html

Independent analysts say U.S. manufacturing was in steep decline before Obama took office in 2009. Many economists credit Obama's stimulus packages with keeping the job losses from being considerably worse.

_At the same Ohio event, Santorum said Obama and his fellow Democrats have raised unfounded fears about hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking," in which pressurized fluids are pumped into the ground to extract natural gas. Santorum said Obama wants to unfairly regulate fracking "as if this is some new technology out there that we don't know anything about, and we have to be worried about." Santorum said the administration tells Americans, "Ooh, we've got to be scared, we've got to be scared of this technology that's producing the cheapest natural gas and oil....Why? So we can get your dollars, turn it to politicians who can win elections so they can control your lives."

Fluids...yep, they are pumping fluids into the ground get at the natural gas. The problem is that they don't have to reveal WHAT fluids or their chemical make-up. It's considered proprietary info...

It's ALSO really toxic...and tends to end up in the tap water. Do a LITTLE research Santorum...for piss sakes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_fracturing

New and improved household feature, flammable water at your kitchen tap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U01EK76Sy4A&feature=related

Control your lives?

Try getting the hell outta my uterus there buddy.

_Also in Steubenville, Santorum said Obama encourages a trend in which the church, religious-affiliated colleges and civic institutions grow weaker while government grows stronger.

Constitution.

1st Amendment.

Specifically: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Dearest Santorum...Government IS SUPPOSED to be stronger than any one religion in America. Considering you are a Catholic...you should know the history of oppression of your OWN religion in America and champion the rights of others, instead of trying to force people to believe what you believe.

It's when government is too weak and a specific religion takes over that we no longer live in a representative democracy...and switch to theocracy. If that's what you're aiming at, you'll have to fight me for it.

"We all know that one of the ways that government has been able to accumulate power is to do so by weakening the institutions that people rely upon," he said. "When they can rely upon them, these stable, mediating institutions in our culture, they don't need government."

Now WHY would a guy who's running for office in government be lecturing people that they don't NEED government.

bi-polar much?

"That's why it's not surprising to see the president's assault on, first, charities," Santorum said. "You recall one of his first tax proposals was to limit charitable deductions — charitable deductions to those mediating institutions," which include colleges, churches and civic organizations.

Spoken like a man who is truely worried about his charitable tax breaks.

mediating institutions? What the hell does THAT mean?

_Speaking Sunday at First Redeemer Church in Cumming, Ga., Santorum said people who shrug off troubling signs about Obama are like those Americans who ignored the growing fascist menace in Europe before World War II. "Your country needs you. It's not as clear a challenge," Santorum said. "Obviously, World War II was pretty obvious. At some point, they knew. But remember, the Greatest Generation, for a year and a half, sat on the sidelines while Europe was under darkness, where our closest ally, Britain, was being bombed and leveled, while Japan was spreading its cancer all throughout Southeast Asia. America sat from 1940, when France fell, to December of '41, and did almost nothing.

"Why? Because we're a hopeful people. We think, `Well, you know, he'll get better. You know, he's a nice guy. I mean, it won't be near as bad as what we think. This will be OK.' Oh yeah, maybe he's not the best guy, and after a while, you found out things about this guy over in Europe, and he's not so good of a guy after all."

Wow...revisionist history at its finest. I can't even untangle that mess enough to answer it. Those of us who've looked at world history int he 20th century understand the connection between WWI and WWII...and we know NOBODY ever said Hitler was a nice guy.

America had its own reasons for trying to stay out of that war...not the least of which was the dreadful losses we suffered when we got into WWI (the war to end all wars). We had an isolationist thingy going on as well (as in, it's THEIR war)...until Japan attacked Pearl Harbor...and then we were pissed off.

Putting Obama and Hitler in the same few jumbled sentences....

Asked by a reporter Monday if he was comparing Obama to Hitler, Santorum said "No, of course not."

Yes he was.

White House spokesman Jay Carney declined Tuesday to get drawn into a point-by-point rebuttal of Santorum's comments.

No problem Jay Carney...I went ahead and did it for you.

  • 14 votes
#1.18 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:22 PM EST
jawill11

But it's difficult for Romney to openly criticize Santorum on these points because Romney already has trouble appealing to the party's socially conservative base

I.e., Romney knows Santorum is bat@!$%# crazy, but he can't call him bat@!$%# crazy because the GOP primary voters are also bat@!$%# crazy.

  • 13 votes
#1.19 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:37 PM EST
Rhazes

Supreme Ayatollah Rick Santorum, got his so now it should be banned!

He is against abortion for even rape and incest victims, but it was ok for him and wife to have this option and abort one of their fetuses. The aborted fetus they brought home with them to meet the family(creepy).

The Santorums doctor that delivered their children is also the abortion doctor who pioneered it in their state and opened the first abortion clinic. This doctor or mass "babykiller" as the Santorums call them was the first person to touch their children as they was born. The same doctor is the one that delivered Santorums wife and then dated and lived with her 22 years later(CREEPY) for 6 years. (You might need to read that a few times for it to sink in)

The Santorums are against contraceptives, but I have a feeling that his wife used them during the 6 years she dated and lived with the doctor that delivered her 22 years earlier.

Tort reform, Rick Santorum wants to limit us to $200,000 caps when suing for malpractice, but his wife sued her chiropractor for $500,000.

Santorum also stole $100,000 of Pennsylvania taxpayers' money to fund his children's education at Western Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School, despite the fact that Santorum's family lived in Virginia at the time. This is why Pennsylvanians sent him packing and he lost by 18 points.

Santorum voted against minimum wage increases but gave himself a $8000/year raise as Senator.

Santorum voted against Seniors being allowed to buy prescriptions from Canada at 40-60% less and said he would raise the retirement age past 70.

Santorum is against Stem Cell Research but accepted $50,000 in donations from companies that do that research. Blood money as he would call it.

  • 12 votes
#1.20 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:57 PM EST
petridishofideas

Frothy likes to paint the dems with the sins of the right. How stupid is he! (rhetorical question)

Hitler was a Catholic who was used to using religious imagery in his speeches, painting himself as the avenging Christian sweeping away all that ws wrong in the fatherland. (sorta like icky ricky) He engaged his followers and created a sort of truth blindness, or rather an enviroment where it was acceptable to revel in hatred and ignorance. (like the gNOp and frothy) Hitler used deception to get the Greman citizens to beleive they were being opressed while he and his Nazi regime used the ignorance of the Gremans to rid themselves of their enemies......sortal like the gNOp and frothy. The gNOp are mearly willing to oblige!

  • 7 votes
#1.21 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:03 PM EST
elliot-3020456

The only way a socialist system works is with fewer less productive members. That is one of the reasons why obama supports birth control and child abortion.

This is the same reason why Mao and Stalin had to kill millions of their own people.

Notice how over population and birth control are more frequently being mentioned in the same breath.

  • 2 votes
#1.22 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:11 PM EST
MJMullinII

Notice how over population and birth control are more frequently being mentioned in the same breath

By who?

  • 8 votes
#1.23 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:42 PM EST
Got_It?

They may blast each other in public but behind closed doors they are laughing at your mindless gullibility.

  • 1 vote
#1.24 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:15 PM EST
spg64-1292127

So Santorum, the Guy that supports Government required RAPE(Virginia) is going to attack Obama's health Insurance reform package because it requires all Insurance companies to cover birth control for those that WANT IT!

It has been obvious for a while now that the modern GOP is nothing short of an AMERICAN TALIBAN!!!

These guys are absolute scum bags, I mean listen to people like Elliott above.

Obama's Insurance reform requiring Health Insurance Companies to pay for Birth Control for any adult that chooses it, some how makes our President Stalin.

Yet they will goose step right down to help the Government in Virginia RAPE any women that wants birth control. And yes an UNWANTED VAGINAL PROBE is RAPE!

  • 7 votes
#1.25 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:32 PM EST
Greenwood10

GO SANTORUM! - Liberals are whiners!

  • 2 votes
#1.26 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:22 PM EST
petridishofideas

greenie....you spelled it wrong. Liberals are winners. But we all know the gNOp aren't all that smart!

  • 9 votes
#1.27 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:33 PM EST
mountainmike-1199289

The ultra orthodox Catholic Taliban in person. I could criticize, but he is the current front runner for the Republicans, so .........knock yourself out! The more asinine and delusional the better. If the Teapublican-Republican Party thinks it is going to win a national election with mainstream America with this ultra orthodox Catholic Dan Quayle, they need the harshest possible wake up call in 2012. A full, devastating smack down.

  • 6 votes
#1.28 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:40 PM EST
Greenwood10

greenie....you spelled it wrong. Liberals are winners.

How come they got an historic trouncing in 2010?

  • 1 vote
#1.29 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:35 PM EST
MJMullinII

Because Republicans said if they were elected they would bring jobs. We are now in the Thirteenth Month of the Republican House and we've seen not a single Jobs bill.

The American people have a long memory, sir.

  • 10 votes
#1.30 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:18 AM EST
nicelovermanceoceDeleted
George-369262

'the president is decent but inept.' Neither decent nor inept: likely the biggest crook to ever hold that office - stealing trillions of dollars from the American public, which will have to be paid back, and transferring them to his political allies... corruption personified.

    #1.32 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:35 AM EST
    Ben-478550

    Frothy Santorum, King of the Talibangelists.

    • 3 votes
    #1.33 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:53 AM EST
    GaryColumbus

    How come they got an historic trouncing in 2010?

    Even raisins had once last moment in the sun before the people ate them up! This country needs another Republican like a fat kid needs cake!

    • 7 votes
    #1.34 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:08 AM EST
    Greenwood10

    Because Republicans said if they were elected they would bring jobs. We are now in the Thirteenth Month of the Republican House and we've seen not a single Jobs bill.

    The American people have a long memory, sir.

    Yeah, Obama has been in for 37 months. He had charge of the white house and congress for 24 months republicans have not. He still has white house and senate. Americans have not forgotten about Obama's incompetence they are reminded daily of it.

    • 1 vote
    #1.35 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:41 AM EST
    thisbusymonster

    Americans have not forgotten about Obama's incompetence they are reminded daily of it.

    Like his incompetent job at getting Osama bin Laden, who Bush literally gave up looking for?

    Like his incompetent job of saving GM, and the US auto industry, from complete destruction?

    Or how his "incompetence" has resulted in what is it now 22, 23 straight months of job growth?

    Or how about the Dow Jones Industrial Average, which hit 13,000 the other day?

    Yeah, I'm sure Americans have plenty to compare the GOP's job at running this country vs. Obama and the dems. I know if I had stock investments I'd be overwhelmingly favoring the Democrats. If I worked for a living (oh, wait, I actually do) I would favor the Dems. I have seen our job market FINALLY return to something resembling a functioning, breathing entity after spending MOST of the last decade half-dead on the side of the road. And I credit Obama entirely for that return to life, and I blame Bush (as do most Americans) entirely for killing it in the first place.

    The fact, is, the GOP's policies of unpaid-for tax cuts and reckless abandon of all checks and balances in the business world have lead to a catastrophe for the working American, and we all know it now. Too bad for you, the facts just do not agree with your propaganda.

    • 11 votes
    #1.36 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:58 AM EST
    hvymtl83

    Why isn't there ever a fatal car accident when you really need one?

    • 1 vote
    #1.37 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:49 PM EST
    Vooda

    spg64writes

    So Santorum, the Guy that supports Government required RAPE(Virginia) is going to attack Obama's health Insurance reform package because it requires all Insurance companies to cover birth control for those that WANT IT!

    It has been obvious for a while now that the modern GOP is nothing short of an AMERICAN TALIBAN!!!

    BRAVO SPG64!!! This bears a shout out and repeat!!! VOTED UP!

    OBAMA 2012

    • 5 votes
    #1.38 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:03 PM EST
    Dr. Reid

    Greenwood10

    Have you seen the light yet Greenwood?

    • 2 votes
    #1.39 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:51 PM EST
    sunshine girl-685508

    That is one of the reasons why obama supports birth control and child abortion.

    Child abortion? What in the world is that? I have never heard of a CHILD being aborted. Your use of this fallacious phrase has labelled anything else you have to say unrealiable.

    • 1 vote
    #1.40 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:49 AM EST
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    voxrationis

    Nothing more than the slander talk he knows the TP wants to hear. Surely this will not work in a general election. Will not the American people ask, "DO YOU HAVE NO DECENCY!"

    Certainly a valid question to those who make such attacks. Do Catholics like Santorum confess these lies and slanders as sin? Or do they think they are going to skate by?

    • 14 votes
    Reply#2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:04 PM EST
    Nicey-1026620

    Nothing more than the slander talk he knows the TP wants to hear. Surely this will not work in a general election. Will not the American people ask, "DO YOU HAVE NO DECENCY!"

    You'd think so.

    But remember, Bush was able to win in 2000 despite a stellar performance by the previous administration in most headline matters (no big wars, great economy, etc, etc) because he was able to galvanize many various christian groups.

    • 9 votes
    #2.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST
    real michaud

    very true Nicey, but Gore really ran a terrible campaign, which Obama will not make the same mistake...he will get down and dirty if he has too...

    • 4 votes
    #2.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:31 PM EST
    CCArm

    he will get down and dirty if he has too...

    I don't look for a dirty campaign from Obama. I think he will bring home the truth about a lot of things and he needs to repeat the lies about him over and over again.

    The people need to hear the truth, from our duly elected President. The people need to be educated about the distortions and the lies. With an improving economy and the clowns running against him and their lies and innuendo (Santorum is bad at innuendo) about him he could set the record straight and make the R's look worse fools than they already are.

    No I am not a muslim, no I was not born in Kenya and no I am not a communist/Marxist/fascist/baby killer.

    • 10 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:17 PM EST
    AJ in Missouri

    I think if Obama avoids the negativity it would be to his advantage. People respond more to optimism in my opinion. I still hope we can get Ron Paul in an independent choice. Obama vs Paul vs Santorum in a debate. We watch Obama and Paul to make our choice, we watch Santorum for the laughs.

    • 3 votes
    #2.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:06 PM EST
    infrared

    that girl next to him is hot, the man is an loon.

      #2.5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:37 PM EST
      Reply
      Beebobby

      It's going to get messy after the election what with all the exploding heads of the hardcore GOTP. We have to try and be gracious winners (unless it's a really big margin).

      • 7 votes
      Reply#3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:07 PM EST
      real michaud

      hell with being gracious....even if we win by 1 electoral vote I want to rub it in hard!

      • 8 votes
      #3.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:18 PM EST
      WoodieRae-3499404

      That whole Al Franken/Norm Coleman issue has me praying for a landslide.

      • 4 votes
      #3.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:34 PM EST
      Fedup-378382

      It will be close. Let's hope the same debacle we experienced in 200 is not a repeat. There will be plenty of manipulation.

      • 1 vote
      #3.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:36 PM EST
      Reply
      MJMullinII

      I see Rick Santorum has four cuff-links in that picture, I question his motives for that. Who does he think he is, a General or something! How dare he belittle the Military by pretending to be a four star General like that!

      (this is, of course, a sarcastic comment meant to draw attention to the "caliber" of comments like Sanatorum's.)

      • 12 votes
      Reply#4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:10 PM EST
      digcreation

      The idea is that the state doesn't have rights to limit individuals' wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire.
      Rick Santorum

      the candidate of conservative libertarian ideology?

      • 6 votes
      Reply#5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:10 PM EST
      blue wolf

      Well I certainly would HOPE that Obama would govern secularly.

      We are a secular Nation by design. Constitution takes this so far as to FORBID the application of any religious test as a requirement for Public Office.

      • 18 votes
      Reply#6 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:12 PM EST
      Stevie-445471

      Anyone see Franklin Graham on Morning Joe today? Would I be safe assuming that Reverend Franklin Graham has anointed Rick Santorium the next POTUS?

      • 13 votes
      Reply#7 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:15 PM EST
      John Bayner

      I saw part of it, I thought the Rev was going to blow his wad talking about frothy fecal jizzboy.

      • 3 votes
      #7.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:08 PM EST
      Reply
      Brian-497171

      We are a secular nation.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#8 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:15 PM EST
      larry ling

      Nothing Rick Santorum could ever say could make me believe he is a sane and rational person. He has a serious case of visions of grandeur and self importance. He's a guy that really deserved to have his ass kicked regularly in High School. I would love for somebody to punch that holier than thou smirk off of his face. What a fricking tool ! This is a man that would intentionally hasten world war 3 just to usher in what he believes to be the christian duty to bring about the apocalypse or the end of the world. I could almost guarantee that if elected, the US would be at war within 90 days or less of him taking office.

      • 10 votes
      #8.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:32 PM EST
      Fedup-378382

      Great post Larry Ling.. My only hope is that the majority shares your opinion or we are screwed! He's a freak!

      • 6 votes
      #8.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:38 PM EST
      WoodieRae-3499404

      There once was a bird who flew in a field. It was bitterly cold, and the bird felt himself falter. In the distance, he saw a pile of what appeared to be steam. Craving heat, he flew towards the source and, without thinking, dove in the pile. Instantly, warmth penetrated his frosty feathers. His lungs thawed, and he felt gladdened. He pushed himself back out of the pile and, uncaring of the brown remnants of what he now knew to be cow manure, he started singing with joy and thanksgiving.

      Five seconds later, a cat, who had been watching the escapade, saw his opportunity and gobbled up the bird.

      The moral of the story is one should NEVER gain attention when one is full of sh1+.

      • 5 votes
      #8.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:42 PM EST
      Reply
      real michaud

      I bet Dubya can't say secular. To the rightwing we a Nuklar, and they have been wanting to press that great big red button for quite some time.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#9 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:21 PM EST
      IndependentVoter

      What does that have to do with this seed? You are not making any sense.

      • 1 vote
      #9.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:38 PM EST
      John Bayner

      Actually he said it as Nucular so he would probably say seclear.

      • 2 votes
      #9.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:11 PM EST
      Reply
      BobbyG-420766

      I just love when Santorum lets his mouth run wild... the nation gets to see exactly what type of moron he truly is...

      • 11 votes
      Reply#10 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:22 PM EST
      Sharon J-1312993

      We need to keep their words on the front page every day. This stuff is so over the top. Wrapping racism in the church is still racism. Wrap it in a flag and it is still racism. If people do not get out in record numbers to vote we are screwed. They have an absolute right to be ignorant but we too have a right to take this country back from the edge. I can not wait for November.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#11 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:30 PM EST
      IconoclastX

      Few things are as dangerous as a True Believer with an agenda.

      • 9 votes
      Reply#12 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:33 PM EST
      Jeff-3469909

      I don't think anything is as dangerous as a true believe with an agenda. In their minds anything and anyone is expendable in order to make the world conform to their views.

      • 7 votes
      #12.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:23 PM EST
      Reply
      Linda412

      This man is really beginning to sound like a cross between Jim Jones and Charles Manson. Matter-of-fact all those "extreme Christians" are scary right about now... Funny how they sometimes quote the Bible only to fit their MADNESS. Wouldn't wantta live in his house -- dangerous!

      • 7 votes
      Reply#13 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:36 PM EST
      Brian-497171

      Does he even think that this horse@!$%# will appeal to independent voters?

      I mean, he may actually be the nominee...

      • 7 votes
      Reply#14 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:42 PM EST
      rose-231178

      Does he even think that this horse@!$%# will appeal to independent voters?

      I think that is exactly why the establishment want Mitt, and because he is all pro big business. Santorum is a big turn off for many.

      Who ever is the Repub nominee, the right will follow because of the R. in front of same said nominee. Independents are iffy on both sides.

      • 3 votes
      #14.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:14 PM EST
      Reply
      TOM PA.

      Two questions for Mr. Santorum;

      1- Did his wife have a prenatal exam before/during her pregnancy that ended in an abortion?

      2- If his wife did, did Mr. Santorum pay for these procedures out of pocket?

      • 7 votes
      Reply#15 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:45 PM EST
      JulioCHE

      1-Not of your freaking business. You might be an aborted child that survived.

      2-Of course NOT, public funding pays whether you are rich or poor DUH!!!!!!!

      Check your prenatal procedures. You might be a survivor.

        #15.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:10 PM EST
        John Bayner

        WTF Julio, were you an abused child.

        • 6 votes
        #15.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:15 PM EST
        DoctorNorm

        As to #15.1.

        Wow! They really are crawling out of the woodwork, aren't they?

        • 7 votes
        #15.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:16 PM EST
        Vooda

        Santorum criticized Obama for requiring health insurance plans to cover prenatal testing. He said such tests lead to "more abortions and therefore less care that has to be done, because we cull the ranks of the disabled in our society.

        1. Isn't it the republicans that hate having to support the "lesser" of society?!?

        2. Your spot on Tom with your question for Santorum regarding his own personal experience with his wife and her late term abortion. I wonder if her ex-boyfriend performed the procedure...the much older abortion provider that she lived in sin with prior to Santorum.

        3. Maybe Santorum's dislike of abortion is linked to deep seeded anger in regards to the fact that the abortion provider tainted his little wifey....Santorum probably had her exorcised before he'd touch her.

        • 6 votes
        #15.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:40 PM EST
        TOM PA.

        JulioCHE-15.1- Does the word "hyprocrite" mean anything in "your world"?

        If, as I suspect, Mr. Santorum's wife had/used a prenatal exam (I understand that there was a medical determination made somewhere along the line that the child supposedly had some "birth defect") and it was paid for by Mr. Santorum's insurance and the late term "delivery" was done likewise then this is a case of "I got mine, but I don't want you to!" In other words, HYPROCRISY!

        • 7 votes
        #15.5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:16 PM EST
        Reply
        Time Lord

        He said Tuesday the president governs with "a secular agenda" that hurts religious freedom.

        And rightfully so...he holds a "secular" office...not a "religious" office. If the "religious right" had the freedom to legislate their way...there wouldn't BE any "religious freedom". Jus "one way"...their way.

        Lets strip "freedom for all" and legislate morality and "christian" values on the masses...cause it's the "RIGHT" thing to do...

        • 9 votes
        Reply#16 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:48 PM EST
        Pablo-123

        Santorum even seemed to compare Obama to Adolf Hitler

        Hates immigrants, Check

        Hates gays, Check

        Hates unions, Check

        Hates birth control, Check

        Is Catholic, Check

        Somebody sounds an awful lot like Hitler, but I don't think it is Obama.

        • 16 votes
        Reply#17 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:49 PM EST
        JulioCHE

        Really?

        ME TOO!!!! I'm voting for Santorum, then.

        ObamBa wishes he'd be like Adolf.

        Viva la revolucio'n, calako.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          #17.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:59 PM EST
          coney-1645455

          sense followed by nonsense reply

          • 9 votes
          #17.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:03 PM EST
          JulioCHE

          Thank you, Coney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            #17.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:11 PM EST
            John Bayner

            Thank Pablo, you are talking a bunch of @!$%# Julio.

            • 2 votes
            #17.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:16 PM EST
            blue wolf

            Post some more stupid crap Julio

            Hey! Independents! over here!

            • 8 votes
            #17.5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:23 PM EST
            Colodomom

            lol blue wolf, thanks for the giggles.

            I visualized you pointing urgently...cracked me up.

            • 5 votes
            #17.6 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:35 PM EST
            Reply
            Philip Grant

            I too want him to win the nomination so we can get this dispute out in the open, and he will be wiped off of the face of the earth.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#18 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:50 PM EST
            coney-1645455

            The nomination for president need not be of such low level to allow a dirtbag to be a nominee. The wiping can be done using other tactics

            • 2 votes
            #18.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:33 PM EST
            Reply
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              Reply#19 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:59 PM EST
              JulioCHE

              Finally, somebody who tells it like it is.

              It doesn't matter: Santorum, Saritah mamamcita, Mitt, Newt, Bush, ..... We're voting for him/her, not for the MONO-polist.

              Viva la Revolucio'n del Te, calaco!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              hahahahahahahahahahaha

                Reply#20 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:02 PM EST
                blue wolf

                I'm sure there are literally dozens of like minded people Julio.

                • 8 votes
                #20.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:25 PM EST
                Jeff-3469909

                Wow, so even if they said they want to bring the Nazi party to power in America you would vote for them because they aren't the current president? Julio you are a shining example of why democracy seems to inevitably fail.

                • 4 votes
                #20.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:20 PM EST
                Reply
                coney-1645455

                This nutjob is one disgusting creature/p>

                • 5 votes
                Reply#21 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:02 PM EST
                John Bayner

                Are you talking about Santorum or the new troll of the Day JulioCHE, because they both fit.

                • 6 votes
                #21.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:19 PM EST
                coney-1645455

                The fool trying to pretend he is qualified to run for president. Minimum quals would be if you lost an election by almost 20% you are not eligible for another US govt position

                • 2 votes
                #21.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:28 PM EST
                Reply
                JulioCHE

                you mean preceded ....

                hahahahahahaha

                  Reply#22 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:15 PM EST
                  Belinda_Joy

                  Hmmm.... Groundhog Day! This sure does remind me of 2008.....when McCain and Palin made their way across the country throwing out red meat to their hungry wolves...Obama isn't a Christian....Obama isn't "one of us".......Obama wants to kill off our elderly and unborn.....Obama is soft on military matters....

                  It didn't work in 2008, yet Santorum believes it will work now? Okay....whatever gets him through the night I guess....

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#23 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:18 PM EST
                  Jensen-576947

                  Santorum makes Palin and her exorcism, sound main stream politic. Forget waterboarding and just jump right into the Inquisition Version 2.0: Draw and Quarter, Public Whippings, Boiling Tar Pits. Make S & M de facto Jurisprudence.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#24 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:24 PM EST
                  StupidLoon

                  They should fix the focus on that photo...

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#25 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:29 PM EST
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