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Obama to address gas prices, pitch energy policy

Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:03 AM EST
us-news, politics, us, obama, barack-obama
Jim Kuhnhenn, Associated Press

President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama attend the groundbreaking for the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington, Wednesday, Feb. 22, 2012. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

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MIAMI — President Barack Obama is confronting Americans' anxiety over rising gasoline prices by drawing attention to his energy policies and taking credit for rising oil and gas production, a greater mix of energy sources and decreased consumption.

Obama arrived in Florida Thursday to promote an energy strategy that the administration says will reduce dependence on foreign oil in the long term. But Obama's pitch will also have a subtext: the federal government can do little to halt the current rise in gasoline prices.

Obama will speak at the University of Miami and tour the school's Industrial Assessment Center, which trains students as industrial energy-efficiency experts. The program is one of 24 across the country.

White House advisers believe Obama needs to address the recent spike in gasoline prices, even though they see it as a cyclical occurrence. The current $3.58 per gallon is the highest price at the pump ever for this time of year.

Obama aides worry that the rise in prices could reverse the country's economic gains and the president's improved political standing. A new Associated Press-GfK poll shows that though Obama's approval rating on the economy has climbed, 58 percent disapprove of what he's doing on gas prices.

Republicans have seized on the issue, citing Obama's decision to reject a permit for a cross-country oil pipeline as evidence of a misguided policy. Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum has warned of $5-a-gallon gas, while former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has said he could lower prices to $2.50 a gallon.

White House officials point to increased oil production and decreased consumption as evidence that Obama's policies are working and will lead to greater energy independence in the long run. But they assert there is little Obama — or any president — can do to change the trajectory of prices now.

Despite more domestic oil and less consumption, "these prices are going up, and that tells you that there are other things beyond our control, like unrest in the Middle East or other factors like the growth of emerging countries such as China and India," White House spokesman Jay Carney said Wednesday.

To be sure, oil and gas production has increased during the Obama administration, though the trend began during the presidency of George W. Bush, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. The increase has reversed a decline that began in 1986, and the agency projects that by 2020 oil production will reach a level not seen since 1994.

The agency also has reported a drop in petroleum consumption, caused by the economic downturn after the 2008 recession, new efficiencies and changes in consumer behavior.

While in Florida, Obama also plans to raise money, including a $30,000-a-person event at the Windermere, Fla., home of Dallas Mavericks guard Vince Carter. An avid basketball fan, Obama will attend a dinner Thursday at Carter's house just three days before the NBA All-Star Game in nearby Orlando.

Obama also will attend fundraising events at the Biltmore Hotel and at the Coral Gables home of lawyer Chris Korge, a top fundraiser for Hillary Rodham Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign.

Last week, Obama took a three-day West Coast trip and raised about $8 million in eight campaign events.

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Jim44

Well Isn't that nice ... the President goes to Florida to make us feel better about high gas prices...

Oh yea and while there he will hook-up with some of the 99 % for a $30,000 per person fund raising event !!! Luck for him the US tax payer payed the fuel bills for Air Force ONE and not the Obama Campaign...

And yes I know every president does it... Give a speech and then fund raise your ass off at tax payer expense... That doesn't make it right be they Republican or Democrat... Its completely unfair when the out of power candidates have to pay their own way!

Just another thing about our campaign system that should be fixed... Be the president or be the candidate but don't be the candidate on the tax payers DIME!

  • 7 votes
#1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:25 AM EST
John from Jacksonville Fl

The President has to have the security the Gov affords him.

All of the candidates have nixed the idea id publicly funded campaigns because they don't want to give up their sugar billionaire Sugar Daddy's fat wallets.

Don't blame the President, if there is anyone who is worth it it's him.

Just wish he could be President for life.

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:47 AM EST
Jim44

The President has to have the security the Gov affords him.

Of course he does... And maybe that would be why I was talking about the cost of (notice I even spelled it out for you) Air Force One ...

All of the candidates have nixed the idea id publicly funded campaigns

What a joke... But thanks for at least trying to cover for the President...

Or didn't you know that .....

Public campaign finance Funding would only go into effect after the Parties have their conventions... And select their candidates ..LOL Sorry that's a Duh on your part !

Don't blame the President,

I didn't... now did I ! maybe that why I said "yes every president does it" ....

Just wish he could be President for life.

Ah yes El Presidente .... Or ......President for Life Obama.... Or His Royal Highness Obama.. Really just President for life? Why not King that way his children could continue his rein (of terror) even after his death at a very old age ? And the Obama Dynasty could rein for a Thousand Years ....

Sadly there are people that would be fine with Obama as President for Life...

  • 7 votes
#1.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:53 AM EST
McSpocky

President Obama is one of the better Presidents in recent history, and 1000% better than Bush. President Obama has done a lot of good for this country, and would have done a lot more had it not been for republican obstructionism.

  • 14 votes
#1.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:35 AM EST
MichaelPA

Are you serious? 1000%? Enough to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize?

He has done nothing except shift the blame to others. He is what is wrong with this country - no accountability hiding behind his 'label'. Like all leaders before him, he promised to make changes, not whine about it as he has done since taking office.

  • 9 votes
#1.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:04 AM EST
Jim44

Sure McSpocky ...

But President for Life? Really .............

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:05 AM EST
WaltUU

Are you serious? 1000%?

How do you arrive at any numbers for this sort of thing, really? How much is a single life worth, if you balance out the number of extra lives lost on both sides (i.e., as compared to the fewer lives lost that would have resulted if Obama led the reaction to 9/11) specifically due to Bush's moral failures in his conduct of foreign wars, and the number of extra lives will be lost lost (i.e., as compared to the fewer lives that would be lost if the President's original health care plan was the law of the land instead of this watered-down version) due to how the President's health care initiatives had to be dumbed-down specifically to confront wholly myopic and selfish Republican rhetoric that adversely impact public opinion. Even one life is enough to justify a number of "1000%".

Enough to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize?

As a matter of fact, yes. If nothing else - i.e., if you are incapable of acknowledging the President's efforts in that regard - then consider it a strong, international statement condemning Republicans as a whole, with regard to their party's indefensibly immoral perspectives toward relationships with our neighbors around the world.

He has done nothing except shift the blame to others.

He has done much, and he hasn't shifted blame to others. That's just something you made up just to have something negative to say about him.

He is what is wrong with this country

On the contrary, he's indicative of the only thing that can save this country from the utterly corrupted abyss that Republicans have tried to drive us down into, and are again trying to drive us down into.

no accountability hiding behind his 'label'

This is yet-another vacuous statement you made up just to have something negative to say about him.

Like all leaders before him, he promised to make changes

And he has made as many changes as he could, despite overt pledges from the opposition to obstruct his efforts solely for the sake of obstruction.

not whine about it as he has done since taking office.

Obama doesn't whine. You must have tuned in during one of his recent attempts at singing. He's actually very good, if you listen to it as singing instead of working so very hard to make up ridiculously vacuous negative things to say about him.

  • 4 votes
#1.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:24 AM EST
TomTom-72

The current $3.58 per gallon is the highest price at the pump ever for this time of year.

A few months ago when oil was trading at $130 per barrel, we paid about $3.10 at the pump; today, oil is trading around $100 per barrel and we are paying much more. Something smells fishy.

Could this be a ploy to force Americans to buy GM's fire-prone Volts.

  • 6 votes
#1.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:40 AM EST
We the corporations?

All we need to know is in this quote from the head of the American Petroleum Institute:

"A determination to decide anything less than that I believe will have huge political consequences.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/202359-oil-industry-keystone-rejection-will-have-huge-political-consequences-for-obama

This is payback for protecting our environment from large oil corporations. Go ahead and blame Obama for standing up to corporations and big oil...

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:34 AM EST
hww

He could give the same speech from the white house and save us a ton of money if he was not politicking on our dime.

  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:05 AM EST
We the corporations?

He could give the same speech from the white house and save us a ton of money if he was not politicking on our dime.

He could.... but then we remember he is President of the WHOLE country not just DC. Don't be so jealous of success, he earned the job and gets the perks. I complained alot about Bush and starting wars of choice, being on watch during 9/11 and failing, tax cuts, civil liberties, etc... but never about him traveling even when it was for some ridiculous record of most vacations ever. Atleast Obama is working...

  • 3 votes
#1.10 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:21 AM EST
Greenwood10

Obama to address gas prices

What is he addressing about gas prices? His press secretary said yesterday that there is nothing he can do about them.

  • 5 votes
#1.11 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:26 AM EST
mon glas

Tom Tom-72

Somthing smells fishy.......Could this be a ploy to force American's to by GM's fire prone Volts.

Bingo, Tom Tom-72. It's obvious that manipulation from Washington is currently and has been for decades the route they take to accomplish their ideals.

  • 4 votes
#1.12 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:46 AM EST
AL-1735815

No..... the GOP/Teahadists are what's wrong with this country. They only care about their own personal greed, power and don't give a flying F@#$ about the United States.

They can't handle the facts, so they slam education....

They still have problems from their high school days of being rejected by women, so they slam women's health rights.

This country will be totally screwed if the GOP/Teahadist win in November.... get ready to return to the fuedual system of Lords and Serfs.

Get ready for the religious police, the sex police, and the GOP/Teahadists will find some way of pleasing their corporate masters and charging everyone for breathing air.

To bad we can't spike their Viagra with a human version of "Mad Cow Diesease" oh wait - it looks like it has already been done.

And during the debate last night on illegal immigration, they all responded that employers should be fined for hiring illegals, but when asked if the home owner shuld be fined - the answer was No - they still need their paid slaves.

Women / Latinos - if you don't turn out in Novmeber - you deserve what comes in January 2013.

  • 1 vote
#1.13 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:52 AM EST
TooManyPuppies

LOL Jim44, security requires airforce one.
Funny this @!$%# didnt come up under bush huh.
we bitched about bushes vacations, and we bitched about gas prices but we didnt bitch about bush doing on vacation with gas prices so damn high.
The forerunners on the right get tax payers provided security SORRY MAN BUT IT IS TRUE.
Jim44, what do you think it is when the right pass an obviously unconstitutional law bringing ID to public schools when the supreme court already ruled against it? THEY ARE USING TAX PAYERS MONEY IN THE FORM OF LAW SUITS TO ADVERTISE HOW DAMN CHRISTIAN THEY ARE.

and really they should run on NOTHING but the tax payers dime, but I am sure you know this and just love how the citizen united decision benefited the GOP.

SADLY JIM44, THERE ARE REPUBLICANS THAT NOT ONLY CALLED FOR BUSH TO BE PRESIDENT FOR LIFE, BUT ACTUALLY PUBLISHED A CALL FOR HIM TO OVERTHROW THE US, IN THE MAGAZINE CALLED "FAMILY SECURITY MATTERS" a mag that happened to have dick Cheney sitting on the board.

and the best way to fix gas prices is for the government to ban oil speculation. but the right are against that.

    #1.14 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:57 AM EST
    vol fan in chatt, tn

    Well, my first thought was Your highness the President, thinks he can "talk" his way out of this...FAIL. He is the one who said he want everybody cutting their consumption of energy, he is the one who said based on his policies "electricity rates would skyrocket":

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

    he is the one who forced the Keystone pipeline timeline and then didn't even have the guts to tell the American people that...his STATE Department (of all thing) quietly announced that the timeline was too tight and couldn't be pursued...pure baloney:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-keystone-pipeline-rejection-is-hard-to-accept/2012/01/18/gIQAf9UG9P_story.html

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-01-18/obama-rejects-keystone-pipeline/52655762/1

    Why is it this President can NEVER accept responsibility for HIS FAILINGS???

    Too many puppies, your post is wrong on so many levels...

    THERE ARE REPUBLICANS THAT NOT ONLY CALLED FOR BUSH TO BE PRESIDENT FOR LIFE,

    Funny this @!$%# didnt come up under bush huh.

    THEY ARE USING TAX PAYERS MONEY IN THE FORM OF LAW SUITS TO ADVERTISE HOW DAMN CHRISTIAN THEY ARE.we bitched about gas prices but we didnt bitch about bush doing on vacation with gas prices so damn high.

    What are your sources for your drivel and please don't post out to lunch left wingy spaceship blog sited...

    One other thing while Bush went to his ranch plenty(and worked from his ranch...he and his wife and kids didn't use AF 1 like their own personal jet and fly ALL over the world on "vacation" on the taxpayer's dime. He flew there and stayed up...he didn't fly to NYC for an AF1 photo op, nor a New York City "date night"...sheeze.

    • 3 votes
    #1.15 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:23 AM EST
    AL-1735815

    WHOA - hold the Bat phone here....... The right is complaining that the President isn't doing something about the raising gas prices?????

    So the right is now against Capitalism and the Free Market????? As the price of gas is set on the market.

    And just what should the President do? Release oil from the emergency reserve? Sorry high gas prices does not constitute an emergency....

    Allow more off shore drilling??? I can go for that - as long as the oil companies have to pay for every dime of any clean costs and restoring the area and then the management does jail time.

    You want to drill in the Wilderness Areas - fine, I want to put a commerical hog lot in your back yard...

    BUT, what happens when the oil runs out??? This country needs to conserve the oil we have and we need to set a ten year goal to change over. Think of all the jobs it would create.

    We need to tell the middle east to take their oil and shove it, and if the rest of the world can't live with it, then they need to deal with the middle east.

    We need to tell Israel, "If you have a problem with Iran - deal with it - but leave us out of it."

    If we cut off all oil imports, would it be painful at the pump - yes, would it kill us - no.

    Would we recover - yes and would we be better off in the long run - hell yes.

    • 3 votes
    #1.16 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:26 AM EST
    WBOB in Indiana

    Just wish he could be president for life.

    Oh....lunch....please stay down.

    • 1 vote
    #1.17 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:55 PM EST
    Jim44

    OK TooManyPuppies

    I'll play ...

    LOL Jim44, security requires airforce one.

    And AF-1 goes where the president says it does... My point was and still is The government pays all costs when the president goes to do the business of the People...

    But if the president is acting as the candidate then his campaign pays the equivalent of commercial or chartered air costs... No more give a 10 minute speech and then fund raise for 2 days using the 10 minute speech as JUSTIFICATION for the cost of the AIR FARE...

    Plain and simple if the president has a fund raiser on a trip ..his campaign pays for the air cost...

    Funny this @!$%# didnt come up under bush huh.

    Stop over looking what you don't want to see... I said its been done by all presidents..I said it needs to change...

    we bitched about bushes vacations,

    You want some creditability for your bitchin? Then be damn fair... Truth be known the Bush Ranch was set up with everything that was needed for a presidential get away... Just like Camp David. There was facilities for Secret Service there were Media area's briefing areas..Secure area... The cost to the American tax payer were kept down by Bush repeatedly going to ONE PLACE.... I know you have to know that it makes sense.. A trip by the president to a new location is a very costly endeavor... The security pre ... during ... and post visit... Those costs are minimal when its a known location of repeated use...

    So you want creditability stop using the Crawford Ranch... As a vacation... Its no more a vacation than the president staying at the White House or Camp David... You know it ... So stop saying it... A Trip to Hawaii , Aspen, Martha's Vine Yard ... those are vacations.... Not going to camp David, or staying at the White House and walking around the grounds...

    and we bitched about gas prices but we didnt bitch about bush doing on vacation with gas prices so damn high.

    I don't remember Bush telling the rest of us to "sacrifice" and maybe not go on vacation .....Then send Laura off to Aspen to go Skiing ....Do You?

    Jim44, what do you think it is when the right pass an obviously unconstitutional law bringing ID to public schools when the supreme court already ruled against it?

    I have NO idea what your talking about>>> Sorry clearify and I will give my opinion..

    THEY ARE USING TAX PAYERS MONEY IN THE FORM OF LAW SUITS TO ADVERTISE HOW DAMN CHRISTIAN THEY ARE

    Again a statement with no connection... But What do you think of the Federal government Suing The States? Causing the States to spend tax payer money against the Federal Government who are spending tax dollars...???

    and really they should run on NOTHING but the tax payers dime, but I am sure you know this and just love how the citizen united decision benefited the GOP.

    Tell me how Citizens United ONLY effects the GOP ? That is the biggest Media and Democrat lie!!! Are the Democrats using SUPERPAC money? Yes ...Surprise !!!! Its a Bull @!$%# argument...We hate it (wink wink) but we have to use it (wink wink) ...Oh Bull.... Stop being a DNC groupie and be honest the DNC is using the Citizens United for their benefit just as much as the RNC...

    Citizens United no more helps the GOP than it does the DNC ... Stop believing a lie.... You want creditability ? Go look at what Corporations are giving to the DNC ...

    SADLY JIM44, THERE ARE REPUBLICANS THAT NOT ONLY CALLED FOR BUSH TO BE PRESIDENT FOR LIFE,

    Can you point one out? I can point on out ....Look up! Can you demonstrate one Republican saying that GW Bush should just declare the congress non functional and JUST DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO ...Beyond his Constitutional powers... Basically become a Dictator ... I can't ...But here is an Obama allie, sitting member of Congress saying just that!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LEwP0UeMpo

    BUT ACTUALLY PUBLISHED A CALL FOR HIM TO OVERTHROW THE US, IN THE MAGAZINE CALLED "FAMILY SECURITY MATTERS" a mag that happened to have dick Cheney sitting on the board.

    Your going to use a 911 TRUTHER Blog .,....??? That made a claim that it couldn't prove because it said the article was immediately deleted .... Really? You want to use that to further your creditability?

    http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/group-that-advocated-bush-become.html

    and the best way to fix gas prices is for the government to ban oil speculation. but the right are against that.

    Until the President becomes PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD.... The US government does not control the World Oil Markets... We can not "ban oil speculation" its not something controlled by the US government...

    Sorry that just demonstrates that you don't understand the situation... Tell these countries that they can't speculate on THEIR OIL because the President SAID SO !

    CANADA

    SAUDI ARABIA

    MEXICO

    VENEZUELA

    NIGERIA

    COLOMBIA

    IRAQ

    ECUADOR

    ANGOLA

    RUSSIA

    BRAZIL

    KUWAIT

    ALGERIA

    CHAD

    OMAN

    Because those are the countries we get over half of the oil that runs the US on a daily basis...

      #1.18 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:21 PM EST
      Jim44

      Hi Al

      WHOA - hold the Bat phone here....... The right is complaining that the President isn't doing something about the raising gas prices?????

      No, I would say more like pointing out the Hypocrisy of the Left that stood and whined for years ...Blamed the president for every penny gas went up..Claim he was a active player in the raising costs...

      And now wants to spew what must be lies ..because unless something amazing happened in the last few years now it seems that the President really can't effect the price of world oil prices...

      So the right is now against Capitalism and the Free Market????? As the price of gas is set on the market.

      Nope... but it is nice to see that you now realize that the free market sets the price and not the President (when his name is not Bush)

      Allow more off shore drilling??? I can go for that - as long as the oil companies have to pay for every dime of any clean costs and restoring the area and then the management does jail time.

      HAHAHA sure you do? And they already do... so the point of this statement ??? It was fun to write I guess!!! Ah wait you want someone to go to jail? Because of and accident? OK file that away!

      You want to drill in the Wilderness Areas - fine, I want to put a commerical hog lot in your back yard...

      You move to the ARCTIC CIRCLE and then your comparison will be valid... And I would be glad to make that trade...

      BUT, what happens when the oil runs out???

      I don't know WHAT? and what does it have to do with anything TODAY?

      This country needs to conserve the oil we have and we need to set a ten year goal to change over.

      So your answer is buy it from our enemies and give them money to do things that are against our best interests...OK

      Think of all the jobs it would create.

      What? doing nothing , creates JOBS? WOW!!!

      We need to tell the middle east to take their oil and shove it, and if the rest of the world can't live with it, then they need to deal with the middle east.

      And we do what to replace the oil? Nothing?

      We need to tell Israel, "If you have a problem with Iran - deal with it - but leave us out of it."

      So we desert all our allies or just this one? So we tell Israel to deal with Iran even though Iran has repeatedly said we are on their lest of Nations that they wish to defeat...

      If we cut off all oil imports, would it be painful at the pump - yes, would it kill us - no.

      That is the most TELLING thing you said!!!! We import over HALF the oil that makes America run everyday... Sorry you just demonstrated that you have little to no knowledge of what Petroleum products do in our world...

      You stop 50% (half) of the oil available to America and you say "painful at the pump"? Sorry that is about the most foolish statement I believe I have ever seen on the subject of US Oil Imports..

      Yes it will be painful at the pumps... But only for a day or two... The millions that will starve and the millions that will die from lack of fuel oil to heat their homes ... Will pale with the millions that die to the riots and looting ...

      Do you not understand that every product in this nation was shipped with the use of FUEL on a Truck, Train, Plane, Bus or car... Every bit of food is moved by FUEL ..Grown by equipment that uses FUEL ...

      America rose to Industrial Greatness because of OIL .... Cut the Oil Imports by 50% ....Turn off that oil....

      WATCH AMERICANS DIE IN THE STREETS.... Don't believe me ... DO IT!

      Would we recover - yes and would we be better off in the long run - hell yes.

      Was your goal to trim the population of the old,and young the sick and the weak? Cut the population in a way to help reduce American dependence on oil? Then it would do that ...

      "Would we recover" ...sure... But I believe not as anything that resembles the nation we are today or we were when we were founded... "would we be better off" I guess that would depend on what you call better off!

      "hell yes." Or Yes we are in HELL ..........

        #1.19 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:10 PM EST
        AL-1735815

        Wow - Jim 44 - I am glad to see that you not only read my posts, but disect them as well.

        Well "grasshopper" let me explain a couple of known facts to you.

      • The world is consuming 85,980,000 barrels of oil daily as of 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption and for those that don’t trust Wikipedia – https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2174rank.html Wikipedia format is easier to read.
      • The “proven” oil reserves are 1,292,600,000,000 http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html there are those that believe that large oil fields, like the ones in Saudia Arabia are just waiting to be found.
      • At the “current” rate consumption we will run out of oil within 41 years (1,292,600,000,000 / 85,980,000 = 15,033 days/365 days = 41 years). At the rate China is developing, 41 years is a pipe dream.
      • which would you rather do? Wait until we run out of oil? or start looking for better fuels now, while we have the time to come up with the "right mix" of renewable energy?

        Wait let me guess, you would rather we rally the troops and go take it from every one else.... and what would the rest of the world be doing while we did this????

        • 3 votes
        #1.20 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:54 PM EST
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        Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

        When Obama came into office, he stressed a very important concept about energy and tried to get Americans to face reality: Oil supplies continue to DECREASE while demand continues to INCREASE. To counter this problem, he invested heavily in alternative energy research, which has had pretty good results in only three years.

        Americans bring much of this problem on themselves by Ricky Racing all over the place in their big-ass SUVs and wasting gas. They continue to sign six year contracts for gas hogs. They refuse to cut down on the miles they drive. They ignore the realities of the 21st century. And so for this, we ALL pay.

        Eight of ten of the largest oilfields on Earth reached peak oil production DECADES ago. (More than half the oil pumped from the oilfield)

        Face it. It's time to shift our energy efforts in the direction a Very Smart President has challenged us with. You want gas prices to drop? Cut back your driving to what's necessary. Open your brain to alternative-powered vehicles and support research in that area. Electric and hybrids are the future. Wind, solar, natural gas. Maybe even fusion, if that place in France actually pulls it off.

        Do you believe that it is still fifty years ago and you can just pull up to the pump and fill up your gas hog for less than ten bucks? Welcome to the new century. Energy, in the form of powering your home, your workplace, and your car, is now a major expense. We're also adding another billion people to the planet about every fourteen years now, (it took from the Stone Age to the year 1800 to reach our FIRST billion) and this should be telling you something.

        Stop whining and listen. Obama isn't dumb, by any means. Some people either can't or won't face reality. They will...

        • 7 votes
        #2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:47 AM EST
        John from Jacksonville Fl

        Well said.

        The truth of the matter is much of the Mideast reason for jacking prices is hype.

        More truth is America is producing more oil than it ever has in it's history as the article states. We now have so little demand (respectively) compared to what we produce we are exporting more than we use.

        What does that tell you? There is no shortage except for the one the Oil Companies create to keep the prices high.

        So what if nothing comes to bare in the Iranian fuss up? Are the oil companies going to refund all the money they over charged? H-E-L-L no.

        The oil companies just like the Insurance Companies have been there to suck up any crumb the economy produces to the citizens of this country.

        This is why the average worker hasn't gotten a raise in decades.

        If they do the Oil & Ins Co's are there to grab it with higher rates.

        Higher gas prices means higher food and everything prices. It's all passed on to the consumer.

        • 4 votes
        #2.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:00 AM EST
        MoCowgirl-1193719

        Oil is a finite resource. It is nasty and ruining our environment. Why would anyone without ties to the fossil fuel industry be against a better, cleaner, renewable source of energy?

        • 5 votes
        #2.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:14 AM EST
        WaltUU

        Precisely. Good thing Cheney isn't anywhere near the White House at this point; we'd be looking at $5/gallon already if the Republicans were in charge.

        • 8 votes
        #2.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:36 AM EST
        Jim44

        we'd be looking at $5/gallon already if the Republicans were in charge.

        Why? President Obama just said that the government has nothing to do with the price... Or are you saying that government can only effect the price if Republicans are in the White House?

        "these prices are going up, and that tells you that there are other things beyond our control, like unrest in the Middle East or other factors like the growth of emerging countries such as China and India," White House spokesman Jay Carney said Wednesday

        Didn't you get the memo?

        • 3 votes
        #2.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:08 AM EST
        buckeyenut-2225921

        Precisely. Good thing Cheney isn't anywhere near the White House at this point; we'd be looking at $5/gallon already if the Republicans were in charge

        The national average for gas December 25 2008 was 1.648 per gallon gas is now averaging 3.612 according to AAA

        • 2 votes
        #2.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:12 AM EST
        buckeyenut-2225921

        Open your brain to alternative-powered vehicles and support research in that area. Electric and hybrids are the future.

        Show me a hybrid that will pull 13,000 lbs at 70mph and I'll buy it.

        • 3 votes
        #2.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:19 AM EST
        buckeyenut-2225921

        Why would anyone without ties to the fossil fuel industry be against a better, cleaner, renewable source of energy?

        Because it costs more to produce. Most forms of power generation cost more than natural gas or coal. Bring down the cost of production and I'm all for it. Keep raising my electric bills as a result of "clean energy" and I'll fight it tooth and nail.

        • 2 votes
        #2.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:21 AM EST
        WaltUU

        Why?

        Because many Republican donors enrich themselves by financially supporting Republican politicians who work to enrich businesses in the oil-based energy sector of the economy.

        President Obama just said that the government has nothing to do with the price...

        On a spot basis, but the government can clear the way for businesses to exploit the marketplace with impunity, if it so chooses. While government cannot lower the price, which is a reflection of the market as it is, it can do things to make the market ripe for abuses by suppliers to spike prices, which is something that Republicans will do when they can, because they value profits over people. But once the government has done all it can do (or really, all the Republicans will allow the government to do) to reduce greedy exploitation for profit, there is nothing the government can do further to affect prices.

        • 4 votes
        #2.8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:29 AM EST
        buckeyenut-2225921

        While government cannot lower the price

        WRONG, Bush released oil from the strategic oil reserve in 2005 which brought the cost of gas down about 10%

        From politifact "Presidents can tap the nation’s strategic oil reserves, which President George W. Bush did in 2005, causing oil prices to drop 10 percent."

        So yes they can bring down the cost of gas short term and long term if they want to use the tools available to them.

        • 3 votes
        #2.9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:33 AM EST
        WaltUU

        Yes, I'll grant you're correct about that.

        But first: Answer this: If Obama does so, will you praise his decision or criticize his decision?

        Please answer directly, with either "Praise" or "Criticize" as your answer.

        • 3 votes
        #2.10 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:40 AM EST
        buckeyenut-2225921

        Simple answer: PRAISE.

        Long answer: I'm not blinded by political affiliation. I don't care who brings the cost of gas down, I'll praise them. We need lower gas and diesel prices to keep the economy moving forward. If gas prices start to bite into the little extra money we have now, we'll be facing a recession again.

        Didn't see that coming did you?

        • 3 votes
        #2.11 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:46 AM EST
        buckeyenut-2225921

        Walt,

        The government can also implement a "tax holiday" reducing or removing the fuel tax that can immediately reduce the cost of a gallon of gas by up to 18 cents per gallon.

        • 2 votes
        #2.12 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:52 AM EST
        WaltUU

        Didn't see that coming did you?

        My point was to get you on-record, so if Obama does release oil from the reserves I can monitor the veracity of your claim, and hold you to account for failure to actively praise the President.

        So we're in waiting-mode. The right time to release oil from the reserves would be May or June at the earliest. Let's check back here, then. Eh?

        Regardless, it isn't all just about you: I'm waiting for the 55 million registered Republicans to give their answer to the question as well. The President has to weight his option not just against what the impact of your singular set of comments in response, but also in consideration of the impact of how everyone would react to his doing so. He could do something that would benefit a few people for a few weeks that ends up costing millions of people quite a lot for a very very long time. That's why we need a thoughtful, intelligent leader, like Obama, instead of an ideologue who will make spot decisions without considering the indirect and second-order consequences on others, like the Republican candidates.

        The government can also implement a "tax holiday" reducing or removing the fuel tax that can immediately reduce the cost of a gallon of gas by up to 18 cents per gallon.

        It would be irresponsible to reduce revenues lower than the revenues anticipated by the already-completed budgeting process - deficit hawks would condemn the President for doing so, myself included. Reducing gas prices even by 15 cents per gallon would only be defensible if it fostered so much more consumption to make up for the lost revenues (through the remaining 3 cents per gallon) that that itself would put upward pressure on the price of crude oil. Reducing the federal gasoline tax is not a simple solution, as you're making it out to be.

        • 3 votes
        #2.13 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:47 AM EST
        buckeyenut-2225921

        Walt,

        You monitor all you want. I'll even PM you when I'm surfing the pages of the vine if you'd like.

        Is it "irresponsible" to reduce money coming in to social security at a time when social security can't afford it?

        Look at the cost of food right now then look at how high diesel prices have been for the last 3 years and let me know what 15 cents per gallon would do for us. A business friend told me last year he spent $500,000 more than in 2010 for fleet fuel costs because of the increased cost of diesel fuel.

        • 1 vote
        #2.14 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:27 AM EST
        buckeyenut-2225921

        Walt,

        You monitor all you want. I'll even PM you when I'm surfing the pages of the vine if you'd like.

        Is it "irresponsible" to reduce money coming in to social security at a time when social security can't afford it?

        Look at the cost of food right now then look at how high diesel prices have been for the last 3 years and let me know what 15 cents per gallon would do for us. A business friend told me last year he spent $500,000 more than in 2010 for fleet fuel costs because of the increased cost of diesel fuel.

        • 1 vote
        #2.15 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:27 AM EST
        WaltUU

        Is it "irresponsible" to reduce money coming in to social security at a time when social security can't afford it?

        Ice cream has no bones.

        • 2 votes
        #2.16 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:56 AM EST
        Reply
        Dean Moriarty

        Throw the bum out. Nobama 2012.

        • 6 votes
        Reply#3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:22 AM EST
        McSpocky

        That would be a unwise thing to do. We have an awesome President, unlike the republican clowns that are trying to run for office.

        • 8 votes
        #3.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:40 AM EST
        WaltUU

        We cannot forget that three of the four GOP candidates were effectively thrown out of office; Gingrich resigned for his failures to lead; Santorum lost his re-election bid because he didn't reflect his constituency's values honorably; and Romney didn't run for re-election because he realized that he'd lose because he didn't reflect his constituency's values honorably.

        • 6 votes
        #3.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:47 AM EST
        rick-673281

        That would be a unwise thing to do. We have an awesome President

        You wont be thinking that when inflation hits for all the money he has spent, 4 trillion more in debt in less then 4 years and wait till your taxes go sky high to pay all of it back it has to happen no other way to pay off 16 trillion you ass is going to be paying sky high taxes/fees in the near future and your dollar wont be worth crap.

        • 3 votes
        #3.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:34 AM EST
        renee219-2390107

        You wont be thinking that when inflation hits for all the money he has spent, 4 trillion more in debt in less then 4 years

        And you honestly believe it would have been different with McCain as President? Get real it didn't matter who got the Presidency when Obama ran and won the Nation was headed for massive debt because of the policies that were in place prior to that race!

        • 2 votes
        #3.4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:23 AM EST
        vol fan in chatt, tn

        well, we wouldn't have Obama care, for one thing and the massive tax increases that will come from that..not to mention the other taxes Obama has implemented and seeks to implement.

        http://www.atr.org/comprehensive-list-obama-tax-increases-a6694

        http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203918304577239590921861800.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

          #3.5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:56 PM EST
          WaltUU

          well, we wouldn't have Obama care, for one thing and the massive tax increases that will come from that.

          But we would have "massive" amounts of people dying in the streets.

          What? Unproven over-the-top rhetoric? Why, yes - just like what you wrote.

          • 3 votes
          #3.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:07 PM EST
          Reply
          copelandbattseeyon

          you need all the luck you can get when you're on the move.

            Reply#4 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:34 AM EST
            MeanGene-3334839

            I actually like the spike in gas prices. It keeps the peons off of my roads.

            I pay about $100 in car insurance per month, call it $25 per week because other drivers suck. I don't mean just by a little bit, I mean running red lights, texting while driving, headlights off after dark, just crazy and irresponsible behavior and the thing about gas prices rising is simple:

            It prices jackasses off the road.

            Every time gas prices go up, driving becomes more pleasant. You see nicer cars on the road, there aren't so many beaters, the drivers are more responsible and congenial, and the commutes aren't delayed so often by accidents.

            I love high gas prices. I can afford them, they keep the hoi-polloi off of the roads and it's a never-ending source of amusement to see liberals complain that their green cars get crap for MPG.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#5 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:43 AM EST
            buckeyenut-2225921

            headlights off after dark

            They are just conserving energy at all cost. My personal favorite is the person driving in the fog with just the yellow parking lights on. Or better yet the person in a white car with no lights on.

            • 2 votes
            #5.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:03 AM EST
            Reply
            buckeyenut-2225921

            and decreased consumption.

            Most have contributed decreased consumption to the slow economy. So the president is happy we have a slow economy?

            • 1 vote
            Reply#6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:01 AM EST
            patriot_in_nh

            Funny how times change, during the last presidential campaign the then sitting President was blamed by the Democrat leadership and the Democrat candidate. Apparently now it is the peoples fault.

            cnsnews.com/news/article/pelosi-blamed-oil-men-white-house-gas-prices-08-now-who-s-blame

            • 2 votes
            Reply#7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:39 AM EST
            Jeff-3469909

            No, Bush invaded 2 ME nations causing quite a bit of turmoil which will cause a rise in prices. So yeah what Bush did actually had an effect. Speculators set the price.

            • 3 votes
            #7.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:27 AM EST
            Jim44

            No, Bush invaded 2 ME nations causing quite a bit of turmoil which will cause a rise in prices. So yeah what Bush did actually had an effect. Speculators set the price.

            Were that true then gas would have cost more under Bush not less.... The wars are going away under Obama yet the price of gas has steadily gone UP!

            http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx?time=24

            No one trusts the president or the US to stabilize anything any more... They know the world is in a big FREE FOR ALL with no adult in the room!

            The Russians do what they want the Chinese do what they want the Iranians do what they want... The Europe is on the ropes and the US is standing with its National Finger in its anal cavity..

            We are No Longer The leader's of the Free world...

            We are No longer the Shining City on the Hill !!

            We are no longer that one place in the world where freedom was the rule of law

            We are no longer a nation of laws and not men.....

            And the World knows it....

            Our enemies do not fear us... Our friends do not respect us...because they know they can not count on us!!!

            I remember ....When America was ...

            The Shining City Upon A Hill
            On January 25, 1974

            http://www.originofnations.org/books%2C%20papers/quotes%20etc/Reagan_The%20Shining%20City%20Upon%20A%20Hill%20speech.htm

            Reading this speech reminds me of a day gone bye when it was still OK to be proud to be an American ...And Americans believed and understood what Reagan said in the final paraghrah of this speech ...

            We cannot escape our destiny, nor should we try to do so. The leadership of the free world was thrust upon us two centuries ago in that little hall of Philadelphia. In the days following World War II, when the economic strength and power of America was all that stood between the world and the return to the dark ages, Pope Pius XII said, “The American people have a great genius for splendid and unselfish actions. Into the hands of America God has placed the destinies of an afflicted mankind.”

            Yet today we stand as freedoms Light is lost in our country and the World........

            I don't blame President Obama... he is merely an instrument of a movement that has been working against our nation for over a hundred years... That it appears has reached it goal!

            But I remember when we were warned...time and time again...

            "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

            R.Reagan

            RONALD REAGAN IS 101

            Published 02/06/2012 | By Hank

            In 1961, Ronald Reagan stated:

            “One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project… James Madison in 1788… said: ‘… There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations.’… What can we do about this?… We can write to our congressmen and our senators. We can say right now that we want no further encroachment on these individual liberties and freedoms… We do not want socialized medicine … If you don’t, this program I promise you will pass … and behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known … until, one day … we will awake to find that we have socialism. And … you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children, what it once was like in America when men were free.”

            http://www.jeffcoteaparty.com/2012/02/06/ronald-reagan-is-101/

            And from those that would harm us ...

            "We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism,
            but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism,
            until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."

            Nikita Khrushchev

            I remember how America once reached out to take a stand for freedom ...

            Friday, December 23, 2011

            President Ronald Reagan: The Candle's Beacon of a Foregone Era of Strength

            http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2011/12/president-ronald-reagan-candles-beacon.html

            And I would still have hope ...

            Time to Recapture our Destiny
            by Ronald Reagan

            On July 17, 1980

            http://www.originofnations.org/books%2C%20papers/quotes%20etc/Reagan_time_to_recapture_our_destiny.htm

            I hope someone reads and enjoys ...

              #7.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:09 PM EST
              Reply
              Frank Gruden

              This should be easy for Obama. He's all gas anyway.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:58 AM EST
              hww

              All Gas??? I thought that it was just hot air. More Environmentally sound of course.

              • 2 votes
              #8.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:03 AM EST
              Reply
              MN blu collar worker

              Oil production is up because profits are up, in China. Not good for us. Good or bad O had nothing to do with it. What he has done is set back the green energy program for years. By picking the big companies he wants to succeed, then giving them the unfair advantage of government, he undermines the ability of other companies to compete. He has no concept of what green is and his track record of picking winners is terrible.(Solyndra, a car company in Italy)It borders on criminal.

                Reply#9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:13 AM EST
                Jeff-3469909

                Everyone does understand that gas prices rise every summer right? This summer is worse because a) there is a very strong possibility of war between Iran and Israel and b) there is less oil than the year before. I really am not sure what president Obama has to do with higher gas prices.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#10 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:26 AM EST
                Man of Knowledge

                Oil production is up in this country for the first time since 1970. The reason is totally market driven. Better oil recovery technology and high oil prices have made investment in oil fields that were previously not economical possible. The easy to get oil is gone in this country. New domestic oil sources are expensive to produce. They are either in deep water or tight geological formations. Our domestic supplies will never meet current demand. We consume twice as much oil as we produce. No amount of drilling will make much of a difference because we use it up faster than we produce new sources. We should have been moving toward energy conservation and alternate energy sources 30 years ago when Jimmy Carter tried to make it happen. Now we are going to suffer for a lack of planning and leadership.

                Obama is on the right track, but politically it won't happen until the price of oil stays above $5/gal and never comes back down.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#11 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:39 AM EST
                Rational Brent

                I disagree. We have plenty of easily attainable oil. Democrats are "The Party of No" when it comes to getting at the oil.

                Jimmy Carter is a recognized failure. I wouldn't be using him as an example of something good.

                If you really want a new, abundant source of energy, the gov is going to have to force it through a Manhattan style project. I'm with you on that.

                Telling people to turn down the thermostat and check the air pressure in their tires is flat out dumb, imo. That message equates to "I have absolutley no idea what I'm doing".

                • 2 votes
                #11.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:00 AM EST
                Man of Knowledge

                I disagree. We have plenty of easily attainable oil. Democrats are "The Party of No" when it comes to getting at the oil.

                Pleae educate me. I worked in the oil and gas exploration and production industry for 25 years. There have been more wells drilled in the U.S. in the past two years than in any previous years. Drilling on non-federal land is not regulated by the Federal government, it is regulated by states. I would be very curious to see your evidence indicating where we have plenty of easily attainable oil.

                • 3 votes
                #11.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:49 AM EST
                WaltUU

                Don't confuse the issue with facts, Man.

                • 3 votes
                #11.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:57 AM EST
                Reply
                Rational Brent

                Obama wants it both ways.

                Why don't we raise taxes on oil exports?

                Or something? Anyone got an idea?

                • 1 vote
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                  Reply#13 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:06 AM EST
                  DickB

                  Good Lord! I can't believe there are so many idiots in this country! This #$@$@#?! president (king obumu) is doing everything he can to destroy us and and send us back to being a 3rd world country so communism can reign and we actually have fools who think he is the best thing since sliced bread. He is the reason you are paying $5 a gallon for gas. Remember when you liberal POS said it won't do any good to drill now; that it will take 10 years to get any oil into the pipeline? Well, it is that time, fools. You shallow thinking sheep - who do you think owns the wells who are producing the oil? Who is paying the high price of oil and passing it on to you? It's not your neighbor - the oil companies own the oil coming out of that ground. Why should they care what they pay themselves for it? You sheep will buy it at any inflated price. Same supply, weaker demand, price goes up. Supply and Demand my tail! If this boy king would get off his useless behind and support our oil production instead of trying to turn us into Russia as it was 50 years ago, we could come out of this recession that he has prolonged. I can't wait til Nov 12 - I would vote for Little Orphan Annie to get him out of there and let us be America again.

                  I saw this quote recently - it sure fits a lot of people on this newsvine:

                  "The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#14 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:26 AM EST
                  IndependentVoter

                  Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.

                  Steven Chu , US Energy Secretary

                  This might be one policy of this Admin that seems to be working.

                  • 6 votes
                  Reply#15 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:33 AM EST
                  staniDeleted
                  DBE928

                  We know Obama's energy policy. Don't drill, don't build oil pipelines, don't explore, excoriate oil companies, import more OPEC Cartel oil, and put government funding into failed "green" energy companies like Solyndra. Of course gas prices will keep rising under these misguided policies.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#17 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:03 AM EST
                  1+2=potatoe

                  WOW another speech...................

                  I think I will just sit in my bathroom with a pack of Camels, a short length of tube and blow my own smoke up my ass. Both my and obama's effort will affect gas prices equally!

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#18 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:31 AM EST
                  staniDeleted
                  MN blu collar worker

                  It's news to me!!!!I have seen it on several news stations and more than one anylist. We now produce more oil than we use and are a net exporter. Stocks on hand are at historic levels and usage in this country is off 16%. The oil companies are sending a lot of oil to China because they can get more for it there than at home. The price of gas is being set by opec and the board of trade, but oil companies are loving the profits. Your 401 k is invested in oil....... As long as China needs gas and investors think it is safer to invest in gas and oil than small business and job creation , low demand and high inventories will not be enough to lower prices. Does government have the responsibility to step in and interfere with free enterprise???? In this case where they are utilizing a natural resource owned by the country maybe so....

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#20 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:24 PM EST
                  Jim44

                  In this case where they are utilizing a natural resource owned by the country maybe so....

                  Ah...they already do... That's what OIL LEASES do ! They are contracts between Oil Companies and the US Government...

                  Are you saying that the US Government now has or should have some new power to void the terms of those contracts?

                    #20.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:58 PM EST
                    Man of Knowledge

                    MN blu collar worker

                    Where are you getting your data? It seems really wrong.

                    U.S Oil production 2010 = 5,510,00 bbls/day

                    U.S oil consumption 2010 = 19, 157,000 bbls/day

                    U.S. Oil imports as a share of consumption = 49.2%

                    U.S. Total Petroleum Product Exports 2010 = 2,353,000 bbls/day

                    http://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/index.cfm

                    By the way, the Federal government only has mineral rights to oil on Federal land or on the Continental Shelf the rest is privately owned.

                    • 2 votes
                    #20.2 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:19 PM EST
                    MN blu collar worker

                    T.V. and newspaper, Feb 2012

                      #20.3 - Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:31 AM EST
                      Reply
                      news42

                      Just ride a bicycle to work !

                        Reply#21 - Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:02 PM EST
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