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i live in oregon i was in the us army and now i need a good paying job iam been looking for a year and i have nothing we all need help
#2 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:50 PM EST
Comment collapsed by the communityActually TR-421173, the jobs that you mention at the mills and casinos no longer exist. Due to the housing market and the economy many of the mills in the area have shut down completely. The casinos have laid off many workers because the expendable income doesn't exist right now. Maybe you should pick up an econ book.
Not to mention the fact that you should show a little respect to someone who has gone abroad to protect your ability to talk so disrespectfully to someone else.
I absolutely appreciate your service for the protection of our country. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
There is still no excuse for poor english and your soldiering for the USA does not earn you a free pass.
p.s.-It is disposable income.
Thanks again for your service and I wish you the best of luck in your job search.
Having lived for several years in the Portland area which includes the dot bust era I can vouch for job hardship in the pacific northwest during recessions...worst in the country. During the good times there are people with college diplomas taking your order at mcdonalds but there are jobs to be found if one is dilligent!
I wish the young hero the best of luck. I can't say much for his grammar. Just because he uses that type of language in this forum doesn't mean he uses it on his resume or during interviews so lighten up everyone.
Use that GI Bill, soldier! Get an education on the gov't because you deserve it, you earned it and it is the smart thing to do! Don't wait around either!
The GI Bill ain't what it used to be...
Larry, there are many good jobs. Set your sights on the world, not just Oregon, and things will look better!
You should have stayed in at least you have a job. With Obamanation there won't be any jobs because he wants to raise the employers taxes. Remember no employers NO JOBS!
Please DJ, pick up an intermediate economic text book and you'll learn that one person is almost never responsible for massive job loss or job gain. At least with the minuscule tax increase Obama is proposing for the weathiest of Americans those without jobs will not have to worry about their children not being able to see a doctor when they are sick.
For our struggling heros that return from Iraq we thank you, but unfortunately the Bush administration sent the message loud and clear, that message was that you should have gone and worked for a private security firm. Appearently they are the soldiers that mattered for Bush and his friends, since they are the ones who were paid massive sums of money to violate international law, kill innocents, and after it was all said and done get away with it all and a fat check on top of it.
Larry forget about the idiotic comment to you from TR ok. You always get the clowns that want to belittle someone. It's going to be a numbers game for sure. Jobs are hard to come by and especially if you aren't specialized in a field. Don't listen to the people that think they have some inside information about there not being any jobs because of Obama either. These business were closing down before Obama took office and he needs to raise the employers taxes and not ours. This is why really the media needs to stay out of it and this is a dumb azz post by the media to us. Just sit back and let Obama and his staff let us know and show us their priorities before we make any comments. Hell we all are aware that the economy should be #1 and the troops to stop taking lives of our citizens. The media is always starting bs and they are going to do this to this administration for sure.
Dear Larry, Employers prefer people who can read and write well. Secondly, don't give up a job until you have another one already lined up. Good luck and a positive attitude will get you what you need. If you made it through the military, I'm sure you'll succeed. Sincerely, Steve.
Everone has advice for Larry, how about someone in the area offering him a job.
HELP
Here are a couple of the mills that are still open in OR. Start making calls son, you will be able to find something. Remember you are military, buck up, you have it in you, you can do it, and will.
Alder Creek Lumber Portland,OR 97231 (503)621-3224
Arrowhead Timber Portland, OR 97015 (503)658-5151
Banks Lumber Banks, OR 97106 (503)324-2681
Blue Mountain Lumber Products Inc. Pendleton, OR 97801 (541)276-4304
Boise Cascade Corp. Lagrande, OR 97850 (503)962-2000
Elgin, OR 97827 (503)437-2611
Elgin, OR 97827 (503)437-2611
Independence, OR 97361 (503)838-1610
La Grande, OR 97850 (541)962-1200
Medford, OR 97501 (541)776-6666
St. Helens, OR 97051 (503)397-2324
White City, OR 97503 (541)826-0219
White City, OR 97503 (541)826-2386
White City, OR 97503 (541)826-3535
Willamina, OR 97396 (503)876-2221
Bright Wood Corp. Madras, OR 97741 (503)475-2234
C&D Lumber Riddle,OR 97649 (541)874-2241
Cascade Wood Cascade Locks, OR 97014 (509) 427-5605
Collins Products Kalmath Falls, OR 97601 (541)884-2241
Columbia Forest Products Kalmath Falls, OR 97601 (541)882-7281
Davidson Industries Mapleton, OR 97453 (541)268-4422
Douglas County Forest Products Winchester, OR 97495 (541)672-5711
Lumber Company Riddle, OR (541)874-2231
East Fork Lumber Norway, OR 97458 (541)572-5732
Estacada Lumber Co. Estacada, OR 97023 (360)673-2825
Flakeboard America Eugene, OR (541)744-4639
Albany, OR (541)928-3341
Freres Lumber Company, Inc. Mill City, OR (503)897-3367
Frank Lumber Lyons, OR 97358 (503)897-3003
Fremont Sawmill Lakeview, OR 97630 (541)947-2018
Georgia Pacific Coos Bay, OR (541)267-9237
Flynn/Philomath, OR (541)929-2323
Gorge Lumber Cascade Locks, OR 97014 (503)374-8646
Lumber Company John Day, OR 97845 (541)575-2602
Hampton Lumber Sales Tillamook, OR 97141 (503)842-6641
Willamina, OR 97396 (503)876-2322
Hull-Oakes Lumber Dawson, OR (541)424-3112
Lamanation Technologies White City, OR (800)397-7024
Interfor Pacific Gilchrist, OR 97737 (360)788-2299
Molalla, OR 97038 (360) 788-2299
Keller Lumber Roseburg, OR (541)672-6528
Kinzua Resources, LLC Pilot Rock, OR 97868 (503)485-4025
Mary's River Corvallis, OR 97330 (541)752-0218
Murphy Plywood Sutherlin, OR (541)459-4545
North Powder Lumber North Powder, OR 97867 (503)246-8600
Northwest Hardwoods Eugene, OR 97404 (541)689-2581
Garibaldi, OR 78118 (503)322-3367
Ochoco Lumber Co. Prineville, OR 97754 (503)447-6296
Olympic Mist, OR 97016 (360)673-2825
Laminates Brookings, OR 97415 (541)469-2127
Panolam Industries Albany, OR 97621 (541)928-1942
Prairie Wood Products Prairie City, OR 97869 (503)820-3334
Riddle Laminators Riddle, OR 97469 (541)874-3151
Rosboro Lumber Co. Springfield, OR 97477 (541)746-8411
Lumber Cave Junction, OR (541)592-3116
Roseburg Forest Roseburg, OR 97470 (541)679-3311
Coquille, OR (541)679-3311
Riddle, OR (541)679-3311
Dillard, OR (541)679-3311
North Bend, OR (541)679-3311
Seneca Sawmill Co. Eugene, OR 97440 (541)689-1011
Shaniko Forest Products Lyons, OR (503)859-3698
Sierrapine, Ltd. Medford, OR 97501 (541)773-2522
Slice Recovery Coquille, OR (541)396-6608
Specialty Panel Products USA Eugene, OR (541)343-5383
Spectrum White City, OR 97503 (541)826-2246
Stimson Lumber Forest Grove, OR 97116 (503)295-0951
St. Helens, OR (503)222-1676
Tillamook, OR 97141 (503)246-8600
Sundance Lumber Springfield, OR 97477 (541)746-2563
Superior Lumber Co. Glendale, OR 97442 (541)832-2151
Superior Studs Roseburg, OR 97470 (541)440-1580
Glide, OR 97443 (541)496-3571
Swanson Superior Noti, OR 97461 (541)935-3683
Timber Products, Inc. White City, OR 97503 (541)826-2281
Grants Pass, OR 97526 (541)479-6822
Medford, OR 97501 (541)773-6681
Triple T Studs Cascadia, OR 97329 (541)367-4969
Weyerhaeuser Eugene, OR 97402 (541)689-9000
Stayton, OR (503)769-7676
Industries, Inc. Grants Pass, OR 97526 (541)476-1191
Umpqua Lumber Co. Dillard, OR 97432 (541)874-3343
Inc. Boring, OR 97009 (503)663-4466
Forest Products Wallowa, OR 97885 (503)886-5028
Forest Products Warm Springs, OR 97761 (541)553-1131
Westwood Saginaw, OR 97472 (541)926-7771
Weyerhaeuser Cottage Grove, OR 97424 (541)942-6222
Dallas, OR 97338 (541)623-2351
Products, Inc. John Day, OR 97845 (503)575-0398
Yakima Resources Plywood Yakima, OR (503)453-3131
Yankee Forest Products Clatskanie, OR 97016 (503)728-2630
Zig-O-Log Mills Eugene, OR 97402 (541)343-7758
Don't expect any quick improvements in job growth. During a recession, look at the stock market, because it's a Lleading" economic indicator, meaning it anticipates what the economy will be doing in 6-9 months, and it's going down right now.
Conversely, Employment is considered a "Lagging" economic indicator, meaning that jobs are added by businesses only when needed to meet increased demand for products and services. This normally takes 6-9 months after the economy actually rebounds.
The bottom line is that significant job growth is 12-18 months away, regardless of what Obama and Congress do. The "Infrastructure" jobs are temporary Union jobs, which might help the 2 or 3% of workers that belong to a Construction Union, but what about the 95%+ of us who don't belong to a Construction Union?
I live in NE. MN and our Mining, and Logging industries are closing up their newer explorations, which resulted in many layoffs, and the repercussions of it. I live in a small town that was created by iron mining back in the 60's. In early 2000 and the late '90s the mining operation closed up. Home values fell to a point when homes could be picked up for 10k. in 2006 and 2007 they started exploration again hoping to bring mining back to NE MN and life back to this small town, however, within the last 6 months many of the workers have been laid off, and they have started removing the heavy mining equipment. It is expected that they will close up completely again, and thus once again devistating this small town.
So unless Americans are able to go back to work, and rebuild a demand for manufactured products, that require these materials such as logging and mining for precious metals, towns like these will become ghost towns. I know of several of my neighbors who have been laid off, and as a result have filed bankruptcy.
There have just been to many years where neo-cons have been rewarding the wealthy in sending American Manufacturing jobs overseas via tax cuts. America needs to start manufacturing things again, instead of pushing paper around.
And TR you speak of lowering his standards. To what flipping burgers? last I checked that was a Minimum wage job, I don't know about you, but I have scraped by on it. Let me tell you something about that. working minimum wage jobs, you are working 3 of them just to cover the rent, food, and transportation. If you get sick, forget it, your fired. And speaking of getting sick, if you do, well guess what, you cannot even afford to be seen. There is no Doctor, or Dentist care, no optomotrics if you need eye glasses. I had children, guess what, they couldn't even get medical care that they required. As a result I had child protection crawling up my ass. It is idiots like you that think that people can live on 6 or 7 dollars an hour, and support their families.
go to globalissues dot org and read for yourself how widespread poverty is.
Somehow get those with the most to trickle down just a bit.
The unbriddled greed by those who have been in power is
insatiable. They won't invest in anyone's ideas unless they
are rich friends.
And the businesses that have been raping their customers
with loan shark rates while they borrow at near zero %.
They leverage their assets at 40X and raise peoples rates
if they try to use their 1X. Companies like Wachovia and
Best Buy are hateful if you run into trouble so be aware.
Not to worry larry! Now that the new president is in office You will get a lob, you will get food, you will get a new energy efficient electric car that Detroit will be forced to build,(it will be free because no one will buy them) You will get gas for the car, (not that it will use much), and if you are patient you will get a new house for free, compliments of the rest of the nation whoose wealth the new president is going to help spread around, so dont worry be happy! Like the girl who was interviewed after one of the Obama rallys said (paraphrase) I won't have to worry about those things because HE said if I helped HIM, HE will help me. So just hold your breath Larry. Help is on the way!!!
I am a veteran as well but I live in Wisconsin. Now, I certianly don't know how the state of Oregon operates things for veterans, but in WI the state offers help to veterans as far as money for school. Are the GI-bill and Army college fund available to you? Someone wrote it's not what it used to be, there right, it 's much better now. There is more money available now than when I was serving. You should contact your states Veterans Affairs office and see what benefits are offered for your home state. You can also check out military.com, they may have some useful information as well. You have a computer, use it.
well for anyone who cares to listen... i agree that without the safety of our country the economy doesn't matter because there wouldn't be a country to worry about, but right now i think that the safety of our country isn't struggling as badly as the economy is. The war is with a few nations while the economy is affecting the entire world. This can trigger new wars because of what the people of our country have done and the most we can do is fix it. Also, the economy is affecting more people right now than the war is. I'm not saying that I don't appreciate our troops, because I do, but people are losing their jobs and homes in our own country- on our own soil. The troops are doing their job and Obama has an entire cabinet to help protect our nation, but the most important thing right now is to fix this economic crisis.
I have family that live in Illinois, Texas and Oklahoma. I myself live in Louisiana. The classifieds are full of jobs with no people applying. I do have a job, but if I lost it, I wouldn't hesitate to work at "any" job I needed to to care for my family instead of depending on the government! Two low paying jobs are better than sitting on the couch waiting for gold to fall out of the sky. The majority of the American People would be whining ten times harder then the real americans who went through the depression! Do what has to be done while your waiting on your couch!
Larry thank you for your service to our country. There is at least one TR in every crowd. He may have been born with the silver spoon in his mouth...Oh but wait he now has his foot in there. Musta been "real hard" for him because 5 will get you ten he's never had to worry. Thank you again and I am sorry that you returned to this dismal economy.
Roy Wilson, I know it is taught that the stock market is the leading indicator, but it took the stock market nearly two years after the economy started falling for it to reflect how bad the economy is.
In reality, the stock market booms when the unemployment rate is low and bombs when the unemployment rate is high. The stock market gambles on a business's profitability, and a business is profitable because the middle class and poor earn money to buy what the company is selling. It is the people working in manufacturing and construction that buy the products that drive our economy and the stock market.
America's economy can survive stock market crashes easily, but when working classes are not employed and able to spend money, we get what we have now.
We need to stop worrying about how much POTENTIAL income is lost in the stock market GAMBLE and start making sure that people who buy things keep their ACTUAL incomes.
We the People need to tell Obama to stop bailing out the stock market and finacial institutions and start bailing out the manufacturing and construction companies so the workers have the money to buy things and boost our economy back up again.
Get healthcare fixed! Follow a system similiar to Germany's and that would be great! Make it a not for profit system.... and that will keep costs down and keep the greed out of patient care.
My first act would be to abolish unions ... they served a valuable purpose at one time ,, now they are just another money suck.
There is no law that says Gov't employees need to be union workers by the way ... could you picture a USMC union ? .. lets work out a contract before we go kill people ?
could you picture a USMC union ? .. lets work out a contract before we go kill people ?
Funny.
1 deleted, off-topic: derek-305324 starts with a 'Israeli mossad did 9-11' derail, everyone promptly personally attacks him, nothing really productive happens.
There should be more labor unions. Labor unions are not money sucks, they protect workers. Who do you think an employer is more afraid of? one employee that they can take benefits from, move around on all kinds of odd ball shifts, and if they get ill can let them go with out so much as a reason? Or the labor union where if the company decides to screw with the workers can and will stand up for each other.
I work for a state government, and I proudly pay my union dues. I have better benefits than I ever had working non union jobs, and I also do not have to worry about some administrator screwin around with my hours, my pay, my benefits, or terminating me without just cause. And all this because my voice is one of many.
You have a state union job? a job where your wages increase every year without negotiation. If this is true then you kind of are the problem. If we as a people have to cut back to make ends meet our government needs to do the same. Your job makes it harder because the government automatically needs more money every year to just pay employees. You have the gravy train enjoy it a#$hole.
Me and my husband have both lost are jobs in the past two years. We have three kids and used to make a good middle class living. My husband has a new jop, but makes nine dollars less per hour,I went back to school. The point is we are on the edge of lossing everything in a country were it used to be if you worked hard and and were good people you could have a good life.
good luck to u mr. barack obama
#3 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:53 PM ESTGood luck Mr. obama
#4 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:57 PM ESTGood luck Mr. obama
#5 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:58 PM ESTGood Luck...tough job ahead for you. I am pretty sure you will be criticised no matter what....but as Americans, we will stand behind you (except for those so-called Americans that wish that he fails so they can get elected again.)
#6 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:04 PM ESTTwice in US history has the president deported all illegal aliens!! once during the depression and once after wwII ...more jobs for legal americans of all races! stop the nonsense..fine and jail employers who knowingly hire illegals to pay less with no benefits...
#7 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:08 PM ESTsure.... that'll create more jobs... more crap jobs that I don't want.
Investing in new energy technology that we can use and sell to other countries is a much more intelligent and less hurtful way to create jobs.
Wow, I am suprised, even with an African American President, people such as yourself still decide to act racist. How can you say that? People such as immigrants come here and do work that you would not do! But, either way I think immigrants should be able to get any job that they qualify for, because change has come and everyone deserves that opportunity!
"Twice in US history has the president deported all illegal aliens!! once during the depression and once after wwII ...more jobs for legal americans of all races! stop the nonsense..fine and jail employers who knowingly hire illegals to pay less with no benefits..."
Right... like you are going to go out and pick tomatoes or change the linen at the local motel. Give me a break! The average American can stoop to doing menial jobs when they can hire Mexicans to do the dirty work for less than minimum wage.
surprised...I don't think he was being racist...but realistic. Afterall, all races including Hispanics here legally, are hurt by illegals who are hired at lower pay than them. Not the fault of the undocumented, but the fault of employers, who need to be prosecuted.
Mr. Blue....That attitude is just wrong to display at your fellow citizens. Americans have always arisen to the occasion, no matter the hard work. The problem is low wages that are often below minimum wage. It is the large farm conglomerates, some owned by overseas firms now, that hire these people and keep Americans out. If the wages were realistic and living wage based, then I assure you Americans would flock to them like any other. Further, it hurts other countries as much as our own, to draw their labor force to us, as that is what is needed there to develop their country, in industry and agriculture.
Yes indeed, fine the illegal employers, I agree.
However, never "has the US deported all illegal aliens".
Ever. It's not feasible, and to suggest it is simply a distraction.
Comment collapsed by the communityhe's not being racist...he said all illegal aliens. I know there are Canadians here with out green cards, I also know about some Bosnians too.
And about "jobs we wouldn't do"... That's one of the problems with our counrty right now. There are some jobs available... but it is true most Americans won't do them. We need to stop feeling so "entitled" to the perfect job or not taking a job "beneath our station". My grandfather used to say "I'd rather dig a latrine than take welfare." Now the sentiment seems to be. I'd rather take welfare than work at a job that is beneath me."
Where did The American work ethic go?
Well said, Rich! Here here!
If we are going to "fine and jail employers who knowingly hire illegals to pay less with no benefits" then when are we going to "fine and jail employers who knowingly hire Americans with less pay and no benefits and no union", i.e. WALMART? They are a billion dollar industry and they are sucking the life out of the small business sector by not providing any benefits or representation to its workers and pay them peanuts!
thehoz,
Oklahoma has such a law that makes it illegal to hire or rent homes to illegal immigrants. There is more to it, you will have to look up all details of the law yourself. My great-great grandfather was an irish immigrant who came over here looking for a new life. He had a dream and wanted to see it come true. He got off a boat in New York City, signed up for the army, and became a Union solider. Thank GOD they did not send him back because he wasn't an American citizen. Better yet, thank the LORD it was not left up to you.
those "crap"jobs" you talk about are JOBS U MORON!!! any hard working dedicated american trying to make ends meet want and need those jobs!!!!
You go dawn in mass, the problem is that too many kids have been raised to be lazy, if you have a family to provide for you will do just about anything. And the last thing that we need is for some illegal immigrant taking up these jobs. Wake up people there are tons of americans here now with four year degrees out of work. So that means they will step down and take the jobs that the non degree people would occupy and the cycle trickles down the ladder. So yes it does matter if we have illegal immigrants here taking our jobs. And yes we were all immigrants at one time, but we did it the right way.
Holy Crap, where do I start with this one. First of all, there is nothing wrong with people coming to this country to improve their lives as long as it is done LEGALLY!!
For those who think the illegal immigrants do jobs that "no one else would", and think it is OK, need to look at the big picture. These employers AND employees are not contributing to our economy. Neither pays taxes.
Wanting people to come into this country legally is NOT racist!! Most people don't have a problem with where these people come from or what color they are, but that they come, take jobs and don't pay taxes, can't communicate in English when they go to a retail store or restaurant, get tax breaks for opening businesses with financial help to open the business, etc. It is a hard pill to swallow for people who were born and raised here that cannot open a business with tax breaks if they can even get the loan(s) needed to open a business.
Again, I am not against people from other countries coming here to better their lives. I do think they should do it legally, pay taxes and contribute to the economy of the country that you choose to live in.
If you choose to live in another country, learn their customs, laws and language(s). Respect their customs (i.e. don't fly your home country flag above the country flag of your chosen residence). When you visit or move to another country, you are subject to their laws, so it pays to know what can get you into trouble. And learn their language(s). You should not expect people in another country to speak your language when they have spoken their language for centuries! You should be able to count change to keep from being cheated, read directions and news or order from a menu. It drives me INSANE to have to choose between English and Spanish before I can even get to the first menu of telephone options (what country is this anyway?)!!!
Another thing killing this economy is the laws that permit immigrants to start a business here and keep it for seven years and pay no taxes and get grants to help them start the business, they in return go back to their country after the seven years are up and sell it to their cousin or brother for another seven years raping our country and taking advantage of the helping hand that our government has offered laughing all the way to the bank. I have seen this for myself and know that we the tax payers are financing this whole mess.
I can find some truth in everything that all of you have mentioned. However, what is the ultimate sure-all, cure-all for bringing our jobs back to US soil? Has anyone ever thought about abolishing NAFTA and imposing a tax (similar to the VAT tax in Europe) upon those that wish to import goods into our country? Surely, the increased prices would not only keep Americans from purchasing foreign goods but it would make those once American companies realize that it's time to move their businesses back to American soil.
Unfortunately, you also need to consider the fact that the unions have had a hand in this as well. We always want more and more and it's never enough. Why on earth do you think that these large companies keep moving overseas in the first place? People just don't know their limitations. If you are lucky enough to be able to land a job that pays you $36 an hour, as well as low insurance premiums, to punch a hole in a piece of metal, why complain about it? There are thousands of individuals out there who would happily do that for half of your pay.
I also wanted to mention that I work two jobs just to make ends meet and without either one, my family would suffer. Make no mistake, there are still jobs available if you are willing to work. These jobs may be thankless and menial compared to what your Bachelor's or Master's degree once promised you, but they will keep food on your table and a roof over your head.
Sent, unions have tried to organize Wal-mart. And guess what, employees have always rejected it. I am sure your liberal mindset will call it a conspiracy and that Wal-Mart threatened its employees but hate to break it to you but you are wrong. Most of us believe that unions hurt our economy. They have created more non-skilled, overpaid whiners than I can imagine. Wal-Mart employes over 1 million people, and guess what, when a new store opens they are flooded with applications.
Yes get rid of all the immigrants, I'd love to see all the out of work yupies on wall street go pick fruit and vegetables. Wouldn't it be great to see your former stock broker delivering your pizza. My favorite would be to see my lazy cousins get up of their behinds and go flip burgers. Maybe our out of work heroes comming back from Iraq can go work in the fields. Great idea. Let American's fill those dream jobs of moving from fries to the register at McDonalds, or cleaning toilets. These are the jobs America needs to move forward.
I have nothing against immigration -- only illegal immigration. When the illegals work here, it allows employers to NOT pay payroll and Social Security taxes. I'm not a big fan of rewarding employers financially for breaking the law. Second, undocumented workers don't get health insurance or worders' compensation. So when they are sick or injured, they go to the local ER and rack up big bills that are never paid. So the taxpayers end up eating that cost. Moreover, as a law enforcement professional, I can tell you that undocumented workers are far from being universally virtuous. Manyy defendants I interview have dozens of aliases and criminal histories that span half a dozen states.
Also, the "crap" jobs only get "crap" pay because employers know they can easily get undocumented workers for pennies on the dollar. If this employment loophole did not exist, the wages of for unpleasantt jobs would increase quite a bit.
You want to pay off the national debt? Get rid of the illegal aliens and make the corporations pay taxes!
I have a college degree and I am currently returning to school in order to become an educator. I lost my previous job in November and I have not been able to secure a job since. Once people find out I have a degree and that I have worked in upper managment, they look for someone who either does not have a degree or will "cost less" in their mind. The funny thing is that if someone walked up to me today and offered me a job changing linens at a hotel or picking tomatoes for less than minimum wage, I'd take it. Americans have this idea that they are too good for these types of jobs. I agree with everyone who says we should close our borders and fine or imprison people who hire illegal immigrants. Americans need to stop complaining about the current job market and prove to our potential employers that we are just as hard a worker as an illegal immigrant and that we will take any job that is required of us in order to survive as a people and as a country. There is nothing wrong with cleaning toilets, dishing out fries, or picking fruit and vegetables. We need to use it and therefore we should be responsible for taking care of it, not someone who comes in under our governments' radar and sends American money back to a foreign country. I come from a family of immigrants, but my family came over the legal way and they worked their way up from menial labor jobs to corporate business jobs. I respect everyone for whatever job they have, but I do not respect someone who steals our wages. That goes for illegal immigrants and any American who would rather get unemployment than "pick fruit" or "scrub toilets".
protectionism does not work. Pick up a book and do some research. It's a stupid idea without merit.
HMMM.... deport the illegals? Does that then mean that we are going to deport all our sorry European butts back to Europe? I mean legitamately the white man is the illegal alien. The only reason we are here is because we had rifles and committed a geneocide far worse than Hitler.
Dear tiredofidiots -
While I agree that people should come here legally, it's a very complex issue and there is no black-and-white fix for it no matter which side of the aisle you're on. I have been to Mexico many times. In many areas, there are no jobs - period. Their country suffers economically in ways that we can't even imagine. It doesn't make it right, but if my family was basically living outside and I needed to feed them, I might jump the border, too. You do what you have to when your children are going hungry, right?
For the record, I don't personally believe that illegals do the jobs that Americans won't do - I've worked plenty of those "crap jobs". I'm working one now due to my fiance getting badly injured in a car accident, which put him out of work for a few months. I had to take a 2nd job, and no way is any job beneath me when I need to pay my bills. Because we have no kids, we didn't get any gov't handouts to help us out. I know of many people who have kids just so the gov't will pay for everything. And we live in a society that has been telling us that lots of debt for fancy cars and huge TV's is the way to go. Many of our financial woes are the fault of our own people. And don't even get me started on Wall St. thieves who bankrupt people and don't even go to jail or pay back the money.
And you're wrong about illegal aliens not paying taxes. All the same taxes come out of their paychecks as come out of mine and yours. Since illegal aliens can't run over to H&R Block to file their taxes without being found out, guess what? They dont' get a tax return - which means it's free money for the goverment. The government benefits, and all taxpayers, illegal or not, foot all the resulting medical and educational bills. Illegals cost us money, but they contibute, too. There are reasons that Bush didn't want them sent back, and I'm betting that they're mostly financial ones.
Some wars are necessary - Iraq was not. Where's Osama? We still don't know. Natural distaters... and too many loopholes in the system. Illegals are just one tiny piece of this whole mess. It's gonna take changes on many fronts to fix all of it, and it's gonna take time. It took millions of us to shoot our economy in the foot. I believe Obama will lead us to solutions that make real sense. Not to mention real cents!
We just need to build a wall.(a tall one) After all China did!?! Heck Pink Floyd did! With motion sensing machine guns every 100 yards. End of the illegal alien problem. I mean seriously why is the solution to this issue so "tough" to figure out! NUFF SAID
Oh...and it will help with the "Job" situation as well...
i 'would like to know if you are a native american, otherwise i don't know what gives you the right to make such comments....
I agree, that the problem is the employers. Fine them or shut down their businesses and the (illegal) problem goes away......but it ain't going to happen! Why? because our government is forced to look the other way because they CAUSED the problem. Why would anyone (today) do those jobs when it's more profitable to sit home, watch Oprey, and wait for the benefit checks? Their socialist agenda not only resulted in a need for cheap (illegal) labor, but destroyed the black family as well.
I am a "native" American as was my father and his father as was his father's father and somewhere back down the line I am sure that my ancesters "legally" imigrated to this country. There were also American "Indian women" in my family tree. (assuming that is what You mean by "native american"). But in fact, being a "Native" in any country only requires that you were born in the land or that you LEGALLY imigrated there. ( unless the land was won by conquest ) But that is another issue all together. So... Now that my RIGHT to make "such comments" has been established. The issue at hand has to do with ILLEGAL imigration and the damage it causes TO ever resident of this country who has the legitimate RIGHT to be here! Now what I wonder is...are you legally here?
Well put, this should give people something to really think about.
Thanks for the vote of confidence Too many like you and we will fail miserably. I am only sorry that you are so full of pessimism on a day like today. Everyone needs to roll up their sleeves and get ready to move forward, no matter who you voted for...
#8 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:09 PM ESTI know President Obama will do very well. he has the boldness and leadership that is needed to score a touch down! I admire his communication skills he is master politician and will be a excellent commander and chief!
#9 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:10 PM ESThey, go ahead down to tesas with the rest of them
Jeff - your comments are a disgrace to all of us.
Jeff, your are an idiot. All politics aside, I think having somebody other than a rich white guy as President is the best thing that could have happended and may help America in the future. I personally don't think Obama will do a good job, but it has nothing to do with ethnicity. I don't agree with the left agenda and I think the Americans that voted for him are in for a rude awakening. Honestly, in the end, I hope that I am wrong and that he is the best President this country has every had.
Jeff, are you up there risking your life being president? nope, I didn't think so, you may think that Obama is not a leader, but he is up there isn't he? That is enough for me, unlike you which you probably have never been a leader of anything.
listen-jeff i wont disgrace your character, but put aside your hatred towards black people and just give him a chance! You might be surprised by the outcome! Im a proud republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff, it saddens me to read your comments. I can not say that I am surprised the "N" word still gets used today, however, what a disgrace to call you one of my fellow Americans. Race is not a requirement for the presidential role nor is it a factor in the quality of work one can achieve. Obviously, enough caucasian Americans felt the same way...
Jeff, wow. Disgusting is too kind of a word to use regarding you and your mindset. I truly feel sorry for your 10 year old son to have to be brought up in such an ignorant, hate filled, and malicious environment. It's been my experience that most people sharing your antiquated and bigoted views also blame minorities for their failures in life. I hope you are teaching your son more about taking responsibility for his own actions and future instead of clinging to a doctrine of misplaced anger and hate.
Unbelievable that you could put 'treated quite well" and "slavery" in the same sentence. Then you generalize that they aren't willing to go out and get a job, and then in the same sentence...a 17 year old black kid asked for a job. Wow.
Wow!! Unbelievable Jeff and DMessina. Jeff you are ridiculous and need an education you know like OUR President mentioned today in his inauguration speech. If you graduated from high school you probably skimmed by in English class and history. Any person that makes racial comments is one that lacks eduaction. I am hispanic and I am glad we have elected a President that is educated and can speak eloquently and can REPRESENT the U.S. at a world meeting or be seen on television. African Americans can be proud that President Obama got elected just as any other race would be proud that a person of their ethnicity could have been elected. President Obama and his family embody the morals we have lost in this country. As for DMessina my grandparents worked the fields almost as a slave moving from 1 region to another to make ends meet- for a roof over their heads, food on the table and material to make their clothes. They worked any job since they could not read and or write. All of the generations after have been fortunate to go to school it is our choice to stay and get an education but we don't appreciate EVERYTHING that we have in our lives now--we always want more and in our fingertips. Good luck to everyone who is looking for a job and if you have one don't leave it. I am looking forward to helping in any change that the U.S. needs to move onward and build our country up again.
Comment collapsed by the communityHe must be a big one, he got collapsed before I got here. He may not have a mommy and daddy ever think of that?
Based on what is Obama going to be a great leader? I will give him a chance but I am approaching this in the best way I know to deal with politicoes. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
Mr. Obama, if you look at what little history (Junior Senator from IL folks) he has, you would find that he has made some very questionable deciscions. Including contributing to the Meteoric Rise in housing prices. Thereby cripling the economy. Read the fair leading practices act enacted by I believe Carter and you will realise how the wording almost forces banks to make bad lending deciscions. As a Lawyer Obama received many kickbacks from this act. Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac ceo's had him in their pocket.
I didn't vote for Obama as you can see but again I pray for his wisdom, he's still my president like him or not.
A Leader you say of Obama. The same guy who nominated a guy who doesn't pay his taxes to oversee the IRS and make sure we do pay our taxes.
The same guy who purchased prime property for far less that its market value from a Convicted Felon (Rezko), who just so happens to be one of Obama's Campaign fund raisers. And that same convicted felon was also a campaign fund Raiser for Blagojevich. What a coincidence!
Was the purchase of the property for less than its value a Political payback, favor or Bribe. Never the less, you can be sure that Rezko, Obama's convicted little Buddy is already on the Pardon List.
What a Leader!
This Country needs more great crooks, I mean leaders Like Obamavich.
I always thought a "Master Politician" was someone who could talk all day and say nothing. Yes, when I think about that, I think maybe you are right. One question though, how do you "Know" what Obama will or can do? The government cannot afford to take care of everyone.
Okay rmbscuba....can you say JOE THE PLUMBER (McCain's example of a good American)??? Talk about not paying your taxes...and then whining about a business he couldn't afford to buy anyway??? AND HE'S NOT EVEN A LICENSED PLUMBER...AND HIS NAME ISN'T EVEN JOE!!! Remember...people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. People like you make me laugh. Sheesh, give the new President a chance to try and do something before you go getting your panties/draws in a bunch.
Maybe his past associations are an indication, as well as his current nominations. Like the guy who doesn't pay his taxes but yet is qualified in Obama's mind to lead the IRS.
There's how I know. He gave us a great big sign with all his past associations.
We are in Trouble with this Guy!
Jeff, you need to seriously get some class. It's fine to not like the current president. Loathing politicians is part of what makes America great. But using racial slurs just makes you look hateful and poorly educated.
TO: T in VA
I suppose you're OK with a guy who doesn't pay his taxes as a qualified / experienced crook to oversee the IRS and make sure you and I pay our taxes.
There's one of many chances he's had and he nominated the wrong guy. He also associated with the wrong people, but not a big deal he's bringing "CHANGE".
What does Joe the Plumber have to do with this? A guy Obama approached and pissed off with his Spread the Wealth BS.
Well, his spread the Wealth BS is causing Corporations and the Wealthy to lleave this Country. And he never said he had a license. He said he was going to school to obtain one. One he would need to own the Company, but not need to be an employee of the Company.
You Libs. are really brain dead!
Be asured, a good majority of the 52% will be back looking for a Republican to vote for in 2010.
How many chances does a Democrat give a Democrat? As many as he wants until he gets caught.
awww Jeff you better get that sheet washed or better yet buy some new ones...its going to be a long 4, no 8, years for you and your buddies.....
Wow, Jeff...What @!$%#in white pig you are! I'm so glad that your kind is dying out it's not even funny...BTW, I am a proud white male.
Also a violation, M.Fisher - of the very first rule. Don't do that.
Jeff, you need to go hide in your hole and get out your hood and sheets. What an A-hole.
See above, verno and others - report, don't attack.
JOBS! Real Jobs, not low paying pathetic retail or service jobs (although a living wage law would help here), but REAL BLUE COLLAR Middle Class Paying Jobs. The best way to do this, is to pass a law to REQUIRE all Companies who wish to sell here to make it here, period. Trade is wasteful and hurtful to the nation, leading to pauperism abroad and destruction of the engine of middle class makers in America. The only thing we should really trade is ideas, discoveries, and natural resources, freely and openly. But for all finished products, MAKE THEM HERE TO SELL THEM HERE, IN AMERICAN OWNED FACTORIES - MAKE THEM ABROAD TO SELL THEM ABROAD - This will creates millions of GOOD JOBS here and abroad and develop Africa, Asia, and Eastern Europe! Oh, and while he's at it, take control of the FEDERAL RESERVE, which should never have been private - its a scam and stop paying interest to them on the money we borrow, like Kennedy did - and REREGULATE WALL STREET like FDR.
#10 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:12 PM ESTI agree with you but there is one thing wrong with making American products. The unions come in and then pay is high until a strike comes along. The American public has to be willing to work for a decent wage not rape the employer . Some for everyone is better than some for a few
Totally agree. The first thing they should do to create jobs in bring them home. OUTLAW Outsourcing. These banks are taking our tax dollars and still laying us off for cheaper labor over seas. Is our tax dollars paying foreign salaries? Is this patriotism, no it is greed, even though everyone says what will help this country is jobs, these corps still outsource. That is because their only allegiance is to the the bottom line not our nation. If outsourcing was made illegal how many of the 2.8 million jobs that were lost in 2008 would be regained.
You people really need to get a grip! Or, maybe an education! Outsourcing didn't kill the jobs in this country: The unions did. How can you believe anything else makes sense? If it's cheaper to shut down a mammoth production facility here, pay to build the same factory elsewhere in the world, pay to ship the product back here, and the only difference is the cost involved with the labor, what's to blame?
Sure, rob the common citizen from the gains he's made in income and wages, by attacking the one organization that has stood for him, the Union. Yeah, Unions are not perfect, but they are a democratic way for free people to monitor business and insure that their rights are protected and wages secure. The Japanese have Unions, the Germans have Unions, yet that kept their factories. They kept them by making sure their businesses did not outsource and invested in their future, so their children could inherit something. The Union is not perfect, but it is needed, otherwise you'd have an intrusive government doing what Unions do. Make it here, to sell it here, as the LAW would do the trick here and abroad - trade freeley in natural resources, ideas, and discoveries; but make it here in factories owned by our Citizens, inherited by our Children.
After the past year it is indeed unbelievable that even in hindsight some people do not recognize the greed of those who use the work and resources of others to create their own wealth. The reason companies are tanking, (aside from the banks not loosening a grip on their bail-out dollars) is that the people at the top believe they deserve multi-million-dollar salaries, benefits and retirement packages. They say they have earned it. No one earns an income who does not do the work. Taking advantage of everyone else's energy and resources is not work. It is usury.
You couldn't be more wrong. The reasons the unions work in the foreign countries is because their intent is to make the company better. The reason that unions are killing jobs here is because they've been bastardized, corrupted and run into the ground by a collection of reprobates that should be in jail!!! The union leadership has no interest in making things better for the workers here. Look at the grievances they file sometime. It's not about making things better for the employee, it's about increasing the power of the union.
Actually, trade is essential to a healthy economy. What we need is to make countries that sell their stuff here, sell our stuff there also. Another thing - when China can pay someone .50 an hour to make something, we need to put a high enough tarrif on it to make the cost comparable to something similar made here. We can't pay our workers less to keep up, but we can level the playing field, so to speak.
Good thought but we sent them away forever and forever is a long time. China is a communist country they don't have to give them that .50 if they don't want too.
TO: Farkie3
We don't need any more laws. Especially regarding outsourcing. What we need is to reduce the Corporate taxation in this Country, which is the 2nd highest in the World.
Companies should be worried about the Bottom Line, if they aren't, they would be out of Business or moving their Business out of this Country as they are doing Now.
Along with this trend, we also have to date, more and more wealthy people moving their assets offshore. Can't blame them! They like Corporations are being taxed to death by our greedy and power hungry politicians who prey on the fact we won't do anything or can't do anything to prevent it.
Well guess what, something is being done, but not by the voters thru an election, but by the big Corporations and the Wealthy. They are simply getting the hell out of this over taxed greedy Country run by the crooked 535.
What we need is our money back thru reduced taxation (Corp. Tax, Individual Tax and Capital gains tax) in order to fix this crisis created by our lovely trustworthy Politicians.
I agree with you Farkie, the company that I worked for, moved to Monterry Mexico. I signed a contract for one year to continue working for them overthere. Now I'm back in USA with no job. you'll be surprised of how many companies moved to mexico, I saw hundreds of them. they are doing their business on what is called industrial parks, paying 10 us dollars a day per employee, I'm an inmigrant and I'm also affected because USA is exporting jobs. the goverment need to do something to export products not jobs.
rmbscuba~ I think that you are seriously out of touch. The tax is not the issue. The US has a GDP many times higher than many other countries who have lower taxes. The problem is that these big companies get so big, that even if they had tax cuts, they wouldn't create a new job. Big corporations are always wining about high taxation, and benefits costing them too much, but mean while their CEO is making millions of dollars per year.
What needs to happen is that we need to bring in more legisilation like the anti trust acts, and break up some of the enormous companies, so there is intense competition that bring in more jobs, and that way the markets cannot be controlled by a few MNC's that have people serving on each other's board of directors. Not only would breaking these companies up create jobs, increase competition, but it would bring them back down to a size so that they would not be to big to fail.
rmbscuba- you're an absolute liar. The U.S. has lower corporate tax rates than nearly all European countries for one. Corporations in this country have been paying fewer and fewer taxes for the past 30 years, and all the while have still cut and outsourced jobs. During all this, CEO pay has moved into the next galaxy. You do the math. Your talk is cheap and outdated. Corporations in this country need to be handled with a firm hand- especially when they show up to Capitol Hill in private jets asking for MY tax money.
Corporate tax receipts only make up 2% of the overall federal tax receipts. In the 1950s, it used to be 35%. You keep pimping the failed "trickle down" theory when that has now been thoroughly rejected. The empirical data is now here to prove it. It's insulting to hear someone continuing to sell failed Reaganomics policies to people who have been decimated by them.
Yeah, lets give big corporation more tax breaks. Maybe they can move even more jobs overseas while their CEO can upgrade his corporate jet. We don't need more economics lessons from neo-cons right now.
MARTY: Do you thingk Rev. Lowery's statements about whites was racist? If not why not?
Check out a book called The World Is Flat, it will give you a whole new perspective on world trade. I felt very much the same way you did before I read it.
Hi all,
What we need is bringing up the economy and make sure that loans are not given to anyone and everyone without proper details and information about the person. I am sure that Obama will be able to do it if he plan properly. But at least 1 - 1.5 years is needed to get back the original America. Let's pray and hope to see America back again soon and every one get their jobs back.
Regards
Brandon
#11 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:13 PM EST Comment collapsed by the communityBring W., Cheney and the rest of the gang to trial for the multiple crimes they committed.
#13 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:17 PM ESTRound up Clinton, Gore and the rest of that corrupt regime, too!!!!
amen to that rex!
I agree! Who did they think they were, keeping us safe for 7 years!
Sometimes I have hope for a better future but not always. The rancor dies hard. A bit over a year ago I started supporting Obama rather than Clinton. I had every intention of supporting Clinton but then I saw Obama. I feel a bit cheated because the WWII people had the presidency through 1993 and we boomers only had 16 years but then the Korean War crew didn't take the Whitehouse at all. Maybe "the greatest generation" just wasn't that good at raising children. It was always, "Either you are with us or against us." There was no middle ground. It fealt like Clinton would have been more of the same. It's time to move on and forward together.
I'm pretty sure we will have to deal with the war crimes. Even though it rubs me raw--it might be my boomer being--I think we can let the corruption slide. We have to move on. I'm not sure how we can without resolving these issues.
Jeff you sicken me and you embarass yourself. I feel sorry for your 10 year old son. I hope he grows up with the courage to ignore his racist father. Sir, you shouldn't take your third grade education to intelligent discussions.
GF, "let the corruptions slide" R U Kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Give it a break! Give me 3 crimes that were committed by VP Cheneny? I need facts and not myths. I really believe you do not have a clue as to what you are talking about.
National Security should be our first priority, physically and monetarily. I also note that the majority of people that elected President Obama were not represented in the attendees at the inaug. Where could they have been? Working? That's what it's going to take to get this government back on her feet. Too many people spending government dollars for the wrong reasons. I was struck with the stupidity of the Houston mom who drove her children all the way to DC for the inaug with no place to stay and she had no job. I am wondering what she ended up doing, depending on someone else to get back home to her jobless situation with less money than she had to begin with. This is part of what is wrong with this country - that and the attitudes of the fine Rev.
#14 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:18 PM ESTagreed!
Why don't we all agree that the best course of action for modern day politicians is "one term in office, one term in jail."
He should continue with the big blithering worthless empty rhetoric delivered in the same tenor used by Charlton Heston when he parted the Red Sea. If he delivers alot of high handed words with his typically confident arrogant attitude , he'll let what's left of the natural laws of capitalism run their course, thereby saving some semblance of capitalism and the U.S. dollar. (by the way, Derek305324, did you know the Israeli Mossad was really aiming for your shack on 911? Rod Serling and Art Bell told me so)
#15 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:20 PM ESTIf there had been a category stating "undo everything Bush has done" I would have voted for it. I think a lot of others would have too!
#16 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:22 PM ESTYeah, let's undo bushes stuff...including letting the terrorists that dropped planes into buildings go about their daily business. Put Saddam back in control of Iraq too lord knows he wasn't a dictator.
I am afraid I will not live long enough to see the undoing of the Bush era disaster. I have seen 65 years of presidents and the last eight has been the most frightening. History does not look kindly on Jimmy Carter's presidency, but his book "Our Endangered Values" should be a must read for anyone who cares about Democracy. (The book focuses on values of Democracy, not the over-used, politicized term "family values")
Oh Jimmy Carter? You mean the same one that went over to Cuba to hold hands with Castro? The exact same one that has a love affair with Hamas? Oh that Jimmy Carter, yeah I'm sure he knows quite a bit about democracy lol....punkass
Gray haired lady... don't say old... you never know....... what can happen.... there can be a lot of good done before you leave the planet. You should have at last 30 more great years left.....
8 years of Bush is worse than 40 years of Democrats?
They've done such a fine job with Education, The CRA, etc.....
What about the 6% approval rating our do-nothing Democrat Congress has?
How about the nominee of a guy who doesn't pay his taxes to make sure people do pay their raxes.
We've been duped for over 40 years by the Democrats, but it's Bush's fault.
Let the Change/Games begin!
i can't agree with you more. what scares me about the so called "changes" is that obama thinks it great to blow 100+ million to hold a party for himself when we are in recession...... and no media company made a big deal about it but yet when bush spent 40 million on his inauguration they flipped out! not a good start to change if you ask me. sounds like a typical democrat to me, spend, spend, spend! we should be cutting ridiculous spending not do more of it.
It's astonishing listening to neo-cons here preaching "fiscal responsibility"......as if they still belong to the party of fiscal responsibility.
Grayhairedoldlady is wise, and has the life experience of knowing the dangers we were flirting with over the past 8 years.
Just click the undo button on Bush- over and over and over as many times as you can.
goodluck
#17 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:23 PM ESTMy answer is a little selfish because I know this Friday, January 23, I will be laid off.
#18 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:23 PM ESTcry me a river
I got laid off last Friday - 26 years of solid work (never without a job prior to this) in IT (yes, my skills and abilities are current - they let a whole lot of others go and the CEO of the company I worked for within the parent holding company). I hope that employers out there don't suck in their butt cheeks any more right now - it won't help me personally nor America in general - why can't CEOs and stockholders realize that they are causing the very issues they don't want? Take a profit holiday and not demand a bigger quarter than last month or last year, CEOs reduce your salaries to a reasonable level and retain workers and guess what, people might actually buy goods and services again - but it has to start somewhere and I doubt people living paycheck to paycheck (99% percent of US citizens like me) have much choice at this point and corporations have many more resources than any one of us...
Computer Geek:
I agree with a part of your statement. However, after 26 years of employment you should not be living 'paycheck to paycheck'. That is a part of the problem, instant gratification and no responsibility. Americans need to quit living on credit, only finance what they can afford, learn to work again, and quit expecting someone to bail them out.
Amen Take.
827980, your reply exemplifies the apathetic behaviour symptomatic of everything Obama is opposed to, and hiding behind the blind anonymity of cyberspace to wit. I will cry a river for you, of tears brought upon by the sad quality of character you display and the good example of weak sensibility and sympathy to a fellow honest American.
Computer Geek: I agree with the above, if you have been employed for 26 years in the same company, where is your safety net of preparedness? I am good for a few months, and that is on a lowly interior designer salary.
I am about to bust a gut with pride in the American electorate that finally the minority barrier has been set aside. It is too bad the gentleman is a Democrat, but I will still take him.
It is up to the ladies and gentlemen of the United States Congress as to whether President Obama has a successful first 100 days. Without the cooperation of the members of Congress, I fear President Obama may have a short honeymoon. I wish the new president good fortune.
#19 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:25 PM ESTI would much prefer that JC Watts had been the first, but perhaps, he will be the first PRODUCTIVE one.
i am jenny from trinidad and tobago and i want to wish Mr. Barack Obama and his family good luck.
#20 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:25 PM ESTMake room in Trinidad, Baby, we might all have to flee there.
My mom always says never judge a book by its cover...its what inside thats counts.
So i don't think anyone should judge Mr. obama... read the book first.
unfortrunatley obama didn't come with a book! In fact I can't find out anything about him. Strange isn't it that he would be so popular and have not qualifications to be president!
Actually, he has several million MORE qualifications to be President that the previous preppytwit- the one who deregulated and gut-picked us into this mess - Those qualifications would be a MAJORITY of the votes cast by the American people, as opposed to 5 cast by AWOL's daddys appointments to the Supremes
allie, I find it very hard to believe that you can't find out "anything about him". You must not be trying very hard. As for him "not coming with a book" he is the author of a couple of books...you might learn something about him there as a place to start.
Hay i myself don't know much about him...but i am just saying u'll should not judge.
Give him a chance.
alliesantacruz i think u are very rude to your president. If he is .
I believe that the economy mess is going to require world-wide support to mend it. To do that would require improving America's image abroad in tandem with new regulations on the banking system, as well as creating a set of public works projects so people can get their jobs back. The economy will heal again as long as people have jobs.
And the two wars that are still on-going? Those need to be ended ASAP since they are a huge drain on the economy as well.
Oh, and apply more regulations on the bank bailout funds like what was done with the auto companies. Don't just give a blank check.
#21 - Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:33 PM ESTIf THE ONE does absolutely nothing to the economy it will rebound in a year and a half. Any longer than that is because of his socialist experiments.
They called Roosevelt a socialist too! Where would we be without some his "experiments"? In the 1960s the average CEO's salary was about 35 times that of the average worker in the US. Today the average CEO's salary is more than 300 times that of the average worker. The decline of labor unions since the 1970s also correlates with these statistics. Interesting!
We would be just where we are today.
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The economy is in such a mess, it has to be one of the first things addressed.