Will this tax cut make a difference in your life?

No it probly wont get out of debt. Unless America grow's a spine and say's enough is enough.As far as America suck's :If you don't like it leave it.And as long as thee people have th eright to protect themselve's the Criminal's won't win. Don't look to BIG Brother to protect you. You protect yourself.

My boss just announced that he has to lay off 20% of our people, I'm safe for now but it's tough seeing so many hard working americans loose their jobs to pay for Obama's stupid stimulus plan. This is also in response to our governor increasing taxes on businesses, fuel, property and the increases by the municipalities for water, electricity and natural gas.

Not one state agency is laying off or taking pay cuts, and I see that the federal govt employees ranks are swelling - guess where all the tax increases are going to be used. Think we can do with a few less government employees?

4everamerica. I'm not pointing you out, I simply need to make this statement:

It's time we started thinking about what it is we want to do. What it is we want to see exist or not exist.

Do we need new roads or, do we need to replenish some of the planet's natural resources?

Do we concentrate upon the world by making it better here and now by getting closer to the earth, starting to do things like propagate new fruit bareling trees, work on solar solutions, start fish farms and tythe to the oceans, in other words, replenish the balance or...

do we want to continue raping the planet, contine having a population explosion, rip down every tree, eat every animal, create and consume for the shear sake consumption? In essence, I guess I'm saying do you want to go along with these fools and their plans, those who would have us in an apocolypse? People, you knw something isn't right and it's us; we have been following someone else's idea of what life is.

Look, just start doing the right thing. We don't need new roads, we need nature. we don't need mega-ports, we need fish. we don't need new homes and fancy cars and diamonds on the soles of our shoes, we need life, real life. Real life includes water. We must stop having babys. You want freedom? You want tro tell yourself YOU control your life? Then take control of your life and promote life, not death!

If you feel that bad about America, then move!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, things are bad. Yes, things will get worse. Pessimism, however, will not solve our crisis! How dare anyone say America suck's. We may have not had the best leadership this past decade, but we are one of the best nation's to live in! Iceland is bankrupt, Mexico is having a drug civil war, China has just closed 70,000 "Factories". Scotland and England are in far worse shape then us!...etc etc!

Optimism. I didn't vote for Obama(nor McCain), but I am cheering for him!

I am sorry that things aren't fair. Sometimes people can't work and if it isn't their fault it must be awful. You are right that it doesn't matter who is running things unless...... they really CHANGE. This article started out by praising how fast Obama got this huge spending bill passed. NO ONE EVEN READ IT!!! How responsible is that? Some day I hope some one will stand up and show some intergritiy so that things will change. Obama is just paying back the people that got him elected and at the expense of all of us.

Some of you Republicans are cruisin' for a bruisin'. Keep it up.

What is interesting that the Republican is complaining that the $13 not enough to do anything. In another words, it is not enough that the goverment just spent $13 a week per person which translates to 223 Trillion in tax break to all Americans in 2009.

The greedy MoFos want more! They want more for themselves so that the can truely bankrup the government like they have already done with our financial instintutions that they have supported overwhelmingly over the years.

Moral fiber, my a$$. All they care is themselves... I am going to pay off my debt, I am going to blah, blah, blah. If you're such a fiscal conservative, then why do you even have a debt? You should be paying by CASH!!!!

Hey everybody!!!!! Dont spend all of your new found tax cut wealth in one place, wait you will have to save several weeks of to be able to do that!Hmmmm?

So why not relocate to a country that you would prefer?

It is not $13 per person per week. It is an average of $13 per working American per week. If every person were working, we wouldn't be in this mess, now would we? This does not add up to the amount you said. Think about it. Your amount is greater than the entire spendulous package.

Then leave

<The greedy MoFos want more! They want more for themselves so that the can truely bankrup the government like they have already done with our financial instintutions that they have supported overwhelmingly over the years.>

Do you actually understand the government? First of all, we want MORE of what belongs to US... I don't feel like I should go to work to hand my money to the government so that they can give the money to some other country to abort their babies. Do you understand that the government is supposed to work FOR us, not the other way around?

Also, don't get me started on the financial institutions...most of the problem with those now stems from the Democrats insisting that everyone get a loan for a house much bigger and grander than they can afford, whether they have shown financial responsibility in the past or not.

to 4everamerica: you say you can't work. you seem to be vitriolically competent with a keyboard - i feel almost certain you could find a suitable job to fit your - ahem - skills, if you felt so compelled not to play the victim. vitriol - look it up...it comes after "Unbelievably narrowminded" in the "U" section.

I agree with almost all of this. The only part I think is wrong is saying dems forced people to take excessive loans. People need to take responsibility for them selves. If you sign the papers, it's YOUR obligation and no one should bail you out.

4everamerica, where else will you go? I'd tell you to leave, but I don't think you'd be happier anywhere else. Everyone likes something to complain about.

I can agree with your thoughts that sending billions to bankrupt companies and banks is not the right thing to do. $13.00 each paycheck won't do any good, when people like Reid, Nancy, and Obama are multi-millionaires and have no problem paying their own bills, they have no idea of what we need. A stimulus check to thefamilies that actually paid taxes last year would help. But no, they have to send billions to banks and companies that should fail anyway. Obama talks a smooth game, but has no ideas, lies more than he tells the truth, and cant seem to pick a honest person in his cabinet or staff. He will be a one term president along with a bunch of people in the US House and Senate. As far as your outrage with America, if you dont like it, move the he** out.

Thanks but no thanks Mr President! What an absolute insult to the taxpayers. You can keep my crappy $13.

maybe you should stop complaining and be thankful for what you do have - if you hate this country so much move to india or africa and see what real poverty is ~ pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get after it ~ gov't can't fix everything...at least this is a move in the right direction

4everamerica,

With your downbeat attitude, why not leave? Please!

This tax cut is the same as the one Bush used to give us. Why is it suddenly not enough? Here's a thought...it's an AVERAGE. The harder you work or the more you make the higher YOUR cut will be...so if it isn't enough for you, work harder you lazy sot!

Sound familiar???

sygh,

I feel very, very sorry for you. You have been completely brainwashed it appears. It is my ardent prayer that the cover of fog that has infiltrated your reasoning is soon lifted from your brain so that your eyes can see more clearly.

Man and man's actions are inconsequential on this planet compared to natural occurrences and have been for thousands of years.

Turd - you are so full of .... turd.

nice phillipqb, having to resort to personal attack, #2 rule in the Republican'g guide to success?

My place of employment has also cut hours down to 40, not easy for most of them to survive on no overtime, wages just never seem to go up.

We are all paying for these credit card companies to get bailed out, but then they raise our interest rates. Never late on payment, always paid way more then minimum payment, and the greedy bastards raise my interest rate to 27.99 percent? What gives? Instead of spending part of my income tax return I am paying off that damn card and closing the account. Can anyone tell me how that is going to help this economy?

Sorry, but they will. The borders to the south of us will open wider!!

a proposal for my state to stop paying sales tax on government projects was rejected. Does that make any sense, why is the state charging itself sales tax?

A bridge project costing $400 million generates nearly $40 million in state sales tax, that the state has to pay itself! why not cut out the sales tax on itself and pay only $360 million for the bridge? Oh, there is a reason, a big reason, a big smelly, disgusting, rip-off of a reason.

Turns out the state uses this as a means to shift allocated funds to the state's general fund for special interest programs that the citizens would never fund - like auto flush toilets for the homeless, health care, food and education for illegals.

The taxes I pay for better roads are actually paying for Paco's food stamps!

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sick of paying everyone else's bills...Stuggle and work yourself to pay everyone bills....maybe we should just all stop paying on time and keeping up with our responsibilities too!!!! and let the goverment take care of us as well.....saddly just can't do that and maintain some source of dignity and self respect !!!!!!!!!!!

I see more and more evidence each day that the Obama Kool-Aid taste has gone from Cheery Cherry to Sour Apple on down to Rancid Raspberry.

All this, only after one month. I wonder what the future may hold for the annoited one.

too true... and the joke is on us

More than likely, we will be screwed at the end of the year when we file our taxes. Not enough money taken out of the checks, and the IRS isn't going to drop the amt of taxes that we pay, so we're going to get it coming and going. Not to mention the AMT. I say that we need to close the borders, demand repayment on loans that were made to take care of everyone else in the world, and start taking care of our own. If you don't this country will be divided up and belong to the rest of the countries of the world, and that my friends is not a pretty picture!!!

Hello ....We need to let them now we need the help not the banks!If they were to give every one over 21 and a citizen 400.000 each it would still be less than they just spent and it will not help anything ! If they gave it to us there would be no more housing problem,tax base problem,bank capitalization problem , consumer spending problem , or any other problem because there would be on more economic crises . PLEASE WRITE YOUR LEADERS!!!!!!!!

Obama knows all this and doesn't care. The majority of the people that voted him into office are looking for a free ride anyway, and they'll get it. Remember, even those who pay no federal income taxes will get money, it's called welfare in the real world, Obama calls is a rebate.

What a scam. Thank God we only have 3 years and 11 months of this nonsense left.

$13 more per paycheck does help a little. The people in the most dire of straits will immediatedly spend that money. That is why it is being given to those in the lower part of the workforce. Every penny will be spent and when you multiply $13 every two weeks by millions of people, there is a mass influx of dollars into the economy. Really, this is the point, perhaps you should all try some deeper level thinking.

live by your priciples - if you truly believe that the tax relief is worthless, donate your share to a food bank or other charity and let them be responsible for complaining about it. put your unwelcome tax relief where your mouth is.

K in pa

So you think Americans should not voice their opinions when they don't agree with how their Government is being run? Are we in North Korea, China or Cuba this must be Obamas America.

k in pa - you're funny - and you must be a liberal. You know back in 2006 Arthur C Brooks wrote a book about giving and compassion, and studies showed conservatives give 30% more on average than liberals, so when you speak in your judgmental terms regarding living your beliefs, we actually do live our beliefs, whereas you are more likely to want to use my money for your causes rather than your own.

Doug Walter we would no longer be slaves to this corrupt system that is supported by brainwashed individuals who think it is good. Also the people would actually own this nation and their homes and property with little or no profit to the very wealthy.

$13 more per paycheck does help a little. The people in the most dire of straits will immediatedly spend that money. That is why it is being given to those in the lower part of the workforce. Every penny will be spent and when you multiply $13 every two weeks by millions of people, there is a mass influx of dollars into the economy. Really, this is the point, perhaps you should all try some deeper level thinking.

Here is some deeper level thinking, how about the government getting out of the business of social architecture and focus on the limited enumerated powers specified in the Constitution? The tax burden could be slashed, the regulation burden could be slashed and lobbyists would no longer have a reason to lobby so graft would decline, just to name a few economic stimulus actions.

And that is what really kills me. Congress votes themselves pay raises, not to mention a recent $93k a piece for expenses? WTF! I'm single so I think I'm getting an $8 cut. Well WOOPDEEFU*KINDOO! Thanks for nothin.... Oh and by the way NANCY. I hope you're doing well with your little mouse farm or whatever you call it with MY GODDAMN MONEY! @!$%#..

wack,

Please, please leave poor little Nancy alone! She needs your money badly and is more adept at spending your money than are you. Forget about her little mouse farm, she needs your money instead to help pay for her weekly jet flights across America.

You should be proud to pitch in instead of bashing her. She is probably thinking of you all the way from Washington to San Francisco AND BACK.

I am pretty sure the last legislators raise was about $13 a week. At least, I am sure that would be the way the government calculates it.

Obama could do a lot better and faster by simply by suspending capital gains for 6 months, you would see a huge amount of money suddenly being spent, but that doesn't pay off his union buddies.

Frankly, the pittance is insulting.

Just shows the gap between the haves and have nots- the elite are thinking we're so stupid that we'll be delusionally happy about this- NOT.

They'd better start taking care of the poor and middle class- because the only thing that's keeping the poor/middle class from mass insurrection in the streets is a deluded belief that there will be some sort of 'Judgement Day' or karma where justice will be rendered and their sufferings will be rewarded.

This belief provides protection for the elites- and it works well, due to the delusions of the impoverished. The wealthy elitists aren't banking on any 'Judgement Day' or karma for their 'salvation'- they're grabbing anything and everything they can get to take care of themselves ASAP right now-.

Why should those with even less settle for less? 'The elites aren't!

Whether you believe in justice/salvation/Judgement Day is immaterial (so the religious types can unbunch their undies).

"Pray like it depends on God/Work (and defend yourself!) as if it depends on YOU.'

Pretend that there won't be a judgement day, and take care of yourself NOW!

Captain Marvelous,

No you wouldn't. Capital gains would just get invested. Most of us don't have any capital gains to get taxed. That is just for those with a bunch of money. Maybe you are now getting the idea that President Obama is not here to make people who have lots of money richer, he is here to bring some relief to so many Americans including the working poor. The minimum wage is so low that a single person could not afford to meet their most basic needs. Tell me how suspending capital gains taxes for 6 months helps them.

Butterfly,

I am curious. Out of the more than 90% of the population that remains employed, how many receive minimum wage? And then who are these people who earn only minimum wage? Are they people with families or youngsters just entering the work force who may still live at home with mom and dad?

Knowing the answers to these questions would help us to present a factual argument that showed how many single people cannot afford their basic needs. This is good because, as you know, we would rather that the government receive the revenue from capital gains rather than the people who risked their money to earn it.

Halleluah Sister!! Clinton just wishes he had the power crackling in his jeans that O has in one ear.

You said they would only invest the capital gains savings and how would that help. I suggest that they would go out and buy a bulldozer since O has said he is in the road building business. That is how those filthy rich people keep getting richer. They spend their money on things that return more money. The greedy basturds(intentional misspelling for you Turd).

and don't plan on leaving anything for your children when you die, Obama is going to increase the Death Tax to 65%.

You may as well draw SS, you paid into it, and give it to your kids or a charity and use it as a write off contribution. If you don't use it Obama will.

If you are retired and not drawing social security you must have a pension you are living on. Do you know how many Americans are among the working poor who are not offered pension plans, and wouldn't be able to afford to put money in one. More and more companies don't even offer healthcare and if you try and purchase it individually it will eat up a large chuck of and already small paycheck. I think it very sad some of you don't like this just becuase you don't get anything. Reminds me of my neighbors child who made a comment when I took her and my child to School. There were some kids outside the School asking for donations to provide a goat to a third world country(the milk helps keeps the kids healthy). She stated "why should I give money for a goat that I won't ever see or benefit from" That is what you are all whining about. You obvioulsy are doing fine. This is for those who are struggling. I hope you never fall on hard time such as an illness, natural disaster or anything else that might require help from someone else. I'm assuming you think as you age you will be able to take physical care of yourself, drive yourself to the store, cook your own food, and bathe yourself up until the day you die. You may be doing well now, but it won't last forever.

Butterfly, I think that's a little harsh you don't know what they did for a living or how they managed to get to the point they are at. These kinds of arguments between all of the people here are preventing us all from seeing the real monster in our midst. It's not all of us that have differing opinions and reasons for our stance against the corruption. Our anger needs to be channeled together and properly to accomplish what stands before us all.

Everyone in America has a pension plan. It is called saving. Based on our ideas of poverty, I contend there are very, very few people (as a percent of the population) who can not afford to invest in their own future by saving, even if it means only having one TV and no video games (oooh! The humanity!!). There is not nor has there ever been, nor should there ever be a gaurantee on life. You use your brains, talents and energy to improve your life and, if you have a private retirement vs. SS, the lives of your children.
I have "fell on hard times" more than once in my life and I expect that it can happen again (and I feel a greater sense of probability since 11/08). Each time, we lost all we had but each time we came back. It sucks but that is life. If you see your neighbors need and choose to help them in their time of need that is your perogative and I encourage that type of largesse. But do not think you supporting government confiscating my wages and giving it to your neighbor somehow makes you charitable.

You don't think people will spend that money say, at the grocery store, on some gas, renting a video, new shoes for the kids. Ummm think just a bit. $13xmillions of Americans.

Butterfly

you are correct it does not seem like much to one person and it really is not but it will be to 13millions of people.

Stock market is at its lowest in...... 6 years not decades....please get your facts correct

Carrie - are you referring to the stock market that was over 10,000 when George W. Hoover took office in 2001 who then left office eight years later with both the stock market and working people's wages LOWER than when he went in? You epitomize the "Audacity of Nope"

You are getting exactly what you voted for so keep a smile on your face as you watch good ol America become the USSA. It is on the way and faster than one would imagine!

Yes we are getting what we voted for and we also got that for the last 8 years, anyway you always get what you vote for.

Consider the choice we had The MAV. LOL

Funny how the market was breaking positive records until the Democrats took control of both houses.  Everyone likes to blame Bush for a failing economy, yet this is solely the fault of the Democratic congress.  When Bush and the Reps were running the show we were safe and rich.  Now we are on the verge of a depression and it only took the socialists 2 years to do it.  That's impressive work by the parasite Democrats and their lazy leech constituency.

jarmo-547986, I love to watch people drowning sneer at their rescuers. Good job, keep it up.

You could have voted for anyone under the sun. Who is in office at any one moment is not the cause of all of this. The system is corrupt and will never be corrected from within... Supporters of this system are the root cause of it all.

You're right. I should not sneer at someone trying to save me from drowning when they toss me a bag of rocks. We're saved!

And that, my friends, is how simple it is. You should run for president Jay. Too bad Obama doesn't understand this simple concept...

and at the end of 10 months what would happen?

I googled USA population - it is 303,824,640 as of July2008. I calculated out a $1000.00 per person and $150.00 per week for 10 months. In my family of 4 after the 10 months we could be debt free on two car payments or we could be out of debt completely on all but one credit card - either of these scenarios would provide us with about $1000.00 of disposable income each month - provided we keep our jobs for that long.

JaySuds is correct - it does add up to about the same amount as the 787 billion our government is willing to spend - actually a bit less. The hope, Weedhopper, is that after 10 months the economy would start to recover because I now have disposable income each month that I could spend anywhere. Also, because I paid off my credit cards or car loans, the banks I had those debts with would also have disposable income and would hopefully start to loan it out.

The only flaw I see is at the end of the year, my tax bracket would have gone up by the $10,000.00 the government paid me and I then would owe a lot of money back to the government. The only way such a huge payment would work is if it were completely tax free. Try getting that through congress!

As I said before we would no longer be slaves to this corrupt system. We can't have that now can we?!

you are about the only person on here smart enough to get what is really going on. The american public is so split between dems and repubs that they can't make a rational bipartison decision. We are mostly all fat dumb and happy. We elected Obama now we deserve what we get.

A beer!

that is true, thats a good case of a beer a week there.

also thats about $55/m. almost can cover an eight of some chronic too, but not quite.

James, it won't even buy you a beer, especially if your in OR, when they want to tax the barrel an additional 1900%. Yes, that is correct it is not a typo!!

The government doesn't have money. The working class have the money and the non-laboring upper class want more wealth. People in the government (and I mean up top not all the working people out there) are seemingly working for this upper class, by having the authority to take money from the working class and transfer it to them, and they are. All the votes in the world will not change this dynamic.

Lor, actually we are idiots because we allow them to do this to us

Somehow people do seem to equate intelligence with monetary wealth and the privileges it can buy. It seems to be an illusion that the majority of people fall under. You cannot buy right thinking.

He doesn't get it - he gives it. The Dem congress was in control for two years and did NOTHING. I resent paying for deadbeats. I work hard make decent money for where I live but still have to take out loans for my son to go to college. I resent that as a single parent I am not considered a family even though I have been raising my son. I didn't get the tax rebate last year and will not receive the tax relief this year. There has to be a better way to help ALL Americans. Congress doesn't doesn't listen to their constituents. They work at fattening their own bank accounts.

Sir, you need a history lesson going back and tracking your governments involvement in give aways from Lyndon Johnson until now. Being a Bush hater seems to take away all sense of really looking at the financial fiascos of the Dems as well as the Repubs. Neither have done our nation proud. All want to get rich or powerful and you drink cool aid and do not look at the entire past 50 years.

Steve,

Man, you're Bush hating has completely blinded you to reality.  8 years of Republican rule? You're not serious, right? Last I checked, the democrats had control of BOTH the senate and the house for a majority of Bush's presidency --- not exactly what I would call a republican rule...

You need to go back to economics 101 if you think that Obama's massive spending spree is going to do anything to help this country in the long-term. 

Now, I just want to make sure that everyone reading this post realizes that the policies used by the banks to create this mess we are in.(deregulation of mortgage industry), were put in place and signed into law by our good old friend Slick Willie Clinton. So the only blame you can toss at the Republicans is that they failed to fix Clinton's mistake. I say let natural selection take its course if these big crooks on Wall Street cannot make it on their own. Let them die! If you take a look around most, not all, local banks and credit unions that did not get caught up in the mortgage schemes are doing great! We need to reward them by putting our money there and not with the crooks on Wall Street. Let nature take it course. Will it be painful? Yes! but in the long run the country will be better off. That's just the two bits of a lower middle class working man.

Chris - yes I am serious. Let me school you a little on something you are truly uninformed on. If you really checked - you would know the Republicans had control of Congress for 12 years from the time Newt Gingrinch and their "Contract with America" days became the majority in 1994 until they lost their majority(barely) in Nov. 2006. Then when George W. Dummy was appointed president by the Supreme Court in 2000 - Republicans RULED with both houses of Congress and the Presidency for most of GWB's two terms in office. It appears your "economic" judgement is similarly uninformed.

Steve-Sarasota FL.... YOU are right 100% King George II spent 8 years screwing this country up and Left President Obama with a total mess. It's going to take more than a month or so to fix these conditions. King George would have given the tax breaks to big business, not average Americans, and we all know that. Give our President a chance to get things fixed. He's moving in the righ direction and trying. That's a hell of a lot more than the King would have done.

As for you cry babies detailing the fact that your companies didnt give you raises and cut back hours.... I didnt hear much about lay offs in those comments. It seems your employer is trying to keep people working the best he can. What greedy bastards you all are. Keeping everyone working is far more important than getting a raise in these conditions. I haven't had a raise in 2 years due to the louzy economy. My business has been hit hard. Our Boss explained and apologized for the lack of raises, and said he didnt want anyone to lose a job. I commend him for that, and will go with the program and work as diligently as I can to make things better for all of us in my company. Raises will come once things improve. Looking for a raise at the expense of your co-workers is just down right greedy an shameful.

I commend President Obama for taking deliberate steps to at least try to fix things, and put the measures in place quickly. It angers me when these idiot Republicans stand there and degrade the steps that are being taken, but offer no alternatives. That Bonner guy should shut his mouth and work as part of a team to implement the measures being taken. In my opinion he's part of the problem, NOT part of the solution.

Brandon - first read up on my post to Chris so you know who was in charge of Congress for nearly all of President Clinton's two terms. Then read up on the "American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003" when Republicans forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to accept Zero Downpayment mortgages originated by banks. Banks would not offer zero down mortgages without the ability to sell them off to Fannie & Freddie which was not permitted until Bush & the Republican majority in Congress eliminated the downpayment requirement that existed when Clinton was in office!! Google it if you don't believe me - but don't post ignorance - it makes you sound like a Bush voter!

The Dems didn't fix the Great Depression. WWII did. FDR's chief economist stated <7 years into the depression> that their constant spending bills EXTENDED the mess instead of fixing it.

Obama does not get it. He cannot even control pelosi & reid. THEY are the idiots...along with Barney <the banking queen> Frank, Chris <Heck I thought Countrywide was making me a normal deal> Dodd who put us in this mess.

Hey Central FL - The Dem's took Hoover's 25% unemployment rate down to 15% before WWI began and yes , the continuation of New Deal and WW2 brought it the rest of the way down. Oh - and unlike the Republicans in the 30's that demanded FDR pull back on the New Deal in the name of "fiscal responsibility" as soon as it started working around 1937, they didn't stand in the way of FDR spending on the war - so voila! Republicans out of the way = American Economic prosperity!! :)

Steve, Your unemployment figures are garbage. The majority of jobs created by FDR were temporary. The new deal didn't create many lasting jobs. You could ask anyone that was there if you would like to learn more.

Actually Steve in SarasotaFL, Woodrow Wilson was the president before the US got into WW1, 1913 to 1921. Herbert Hoover was President from 1929 to 1933. WW1 ended in 1918. Before you start talking your trash, make sure you are up to date on your history. Another stupid liberal who does not know his American history.

If Obama truely got it as you say he would not have put a rich tax cheat in charge of the treasury. The only one who talked about fiscal responsibility and smaller government was not elected, but someone with little to no experience was.

I love hearing how WW2 ended the depression, not the New Deal. But stop and think for a second, will you? Did the war just magically end the depression? No...

What did end it? How about the billions in spending that the US Government did...hiring soldiers (socialism) buy guns and tanks and ships (socialism) and all the spending the government did for highways to train and transport troops and the building of harbors for the ships (socialism).

It is fascinating to sit here and read how confident clueless people are in their beliefs...

All this petty bickering is enough to make a person sick.  I doubt seriously there are many of us that are professors of American history.  It is easy to make a typo or a mis-statement.  I am sick of placing blame on democrats, republicans, Obama, George W, Clinton, FDR or any other previous President or Congress person.  I personally believe all American people need to look to the future and work together instead.  Consider your own personal family.  As head of your family, would you want your children bickering and placing blame on each other and you as well?  I think not.  I would have preferred not to have any tax cuts - I am lower middle class.  I would have rather seen more infrastracture in this bill to help create more jobs.  I am willing to pay my fair share of taxes, but that is FAIR share.  Taxes are what keeps this or any country going.  These are MY opinions.  I am just sick of the bickering and negativity in this country.

It doesn't take too much to see that none have the answer. They never have and never will. Things are worse worldwide than they have ever been. It did not just happen and it goes way back. Even before this government ( whom so many take such a righteous stand that it is the be all to end all others) was ever established. It has become progressively worse and continues to do so. This division of the people is the problem. Stop the arguing. Where is it leading too?

Hey Dead Rabbits - or should I say Silly Rabbit! Your whole post was about my TYPO??? Did you not read the WW"2" in my post?? Isn't it "funny" how small minded Republicans always resort to petty, personal attacks when confronted with facts? Maybe that's why they hate education because those annoying facts interfere with their ideology - and a more educated population is less likely to be duped into voting Republican!! Silly Rabbit :)

Hey Iknow381748 - I've got news for you - ALL jobs are temporary! How many people in the same job their entire life do you know-Iknow?? WW2 didn't create permanent jobs building B25 bombers, tanks etc. either but, people earned income they could spend at businesses which in-turn produced more jobs in different industries. As for my unemployment numbers - let's have yours. I assume you must have something factual to offer or is yours simply an opinion regarding mine??? :(

sarasota steve..shame,shame

you talk about small minded Reps.....I though Dems preach tolerance?

Or is that tolerance only for your beliefs ?

By the way I am an independant.

I've seen comments here and after previous articles saying that the spending of the New Deal didn't bring us out of the Depression, WWII did. I think that is largely correct, BUT please admit that WWII was simply GREATER government spending, along with people being willing to pitch in and do their part. Of course, it didn't hurt that the economies of most European countries and Japan were destroyed in the process..... I don't think taxes were reduced during WWII.

Hey Told You So - I've noticed a lot of Republican voters have resorted to calling themselves "Independent" these days - too embarrassed to admit they voted for eight years of incompetence I presume. My "intolerance" is for the lies and ignorance that I see too many people duped with by the hard right extremists that have taken over the Republican party I used to support 20 years ago. If you have some facts to present in this post, I would be happy to read and even happier to "tolerate" them.

Ya know Dave.... if you dont like it, get another job, and quit crying like a freaking baby. I'd bet there are lots of people who'd like to be making $20.40 per hour and getting benefits. It's not your bosses fault that the cost of healthcare went up. Mine did too. That's life. Sounds to me lik you are a union worker.

Dave, at least you still have a job, got a pay raise small it may be, and healthcare. Many others don't have a job, don't have healthcare because they cannot afford the high premiums and deductibles.

Those who are losing their jobs and can continue healthcare coverage through COBRA are in for a awful surprise as they will find that they will be paying on average over 575 dollars per month for a plan that only covers 1 person. Imaging what it will cost for a family.

If Steele and his lot had any worthwhile ideas they should have bellied up to the bar and state them not try to derail whatever is being tried to help the majority and not the few. Leave it to them, they would have continued to cut taxes even lower on the wealthy and corporations who are paying very little taxes as they know the loop holes. The only thing they know how to do is talk about Reaganomics and their trickle down economics which also helped to start this country on the slippery financial slope IMO.

Why don't you ask Steele why electric industry was deregulated in his state when there was no competition (no other suppliers)? Why not ask him why the cost of electricity skyrocketed to over 100% after they did that?

The RNC has lost its credibility and have nothing to offer that is of any worth to the masses except talk, miss-information and confusion. But like they say, talk is cheap.

You think electricity is expensive now, wait until Obama and his friends the wackos in the environmental movement kill the coal industry. Fifty percent of our electrical energy needs comes from coal fired plants, but instead of making then better and cleaner. The Dems want to close them all down. I guess we will need the $13.00 to help pay our added costs for electricity?

Folks, this tax cut is just like when we got the checks last year, just that money isn't being wasted on mailing out pieces of paper. You can think of it as $13/week, or as $400 per working individual. It's just a matter of how long it's paid out over. So it should do about the same amount of good as the one Bush granted (which, in my opinion, isn't much. But those who say that cutting taxes is the way to go should be happy for at least a minute.)