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Health care reform: Have your say

Would you sign a contract that would prevent you from reviewing a doctor online?

Some doctors have started fighting back against ugly Internet reviews by asking patients to abide by what are effectively gag orders that bar them from posting negative comments online.

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8.8%
Definitely. I trust my doctor completely. Besides, if a physician is truly bad and patients need to be warned, there are better, more legitmate ways to complain about the care provided.
62 votes
86.7%
No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.
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I'm not sure.
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No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

The manner of a doctor in treating a patient is as important than his medical skills. Bad people skills do not engender trust.

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 - bfoster
 - 7:32 pm EST on Tue Mar 3, 2009
No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

If a doctor is competent and has nothing to hide, then there should be no problem.

{"commentId":5721544,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"louise-dover"}
     - 9:22 pm EST on Tue Mar 3, 2009
    No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

    as a nurse, I HATE when I know patients are seeing a doctor who is dangerous. people really don't know about doctors, most are good though.

    {"commentId":5722087,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"neeneedavis37"}
       - 9:51 pm EST on Tue Mar 3, 2009
      No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

      How dare they try to stop people from talking. It shows how above us all some of them think they r. If you're good u won't have to worry!..

      {"commentId":5722727,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"freshesttomato"}
         - 10:26 pm EST on Tue Mar 3, 2009
        No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

        I would only make an internet posting if I had a doctor who really screwed up but I would reserve my right to make that post.

        {"commentId":5722958,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"gayle1942"}
           - 10:39 pm EST on Tue Mar 3, 2009
          No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

          Some doctors are unhelpful, overbearing, and unaware of recent research. There should be a way to alert prospective patient-victims.

          {"commentId":5723734,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"bnnadeau"}
             - 11:22 pm EST on Tue Mar 3, 2009
            No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

            America has the worlds most expensive health care for quality of care that ranks near the bottom among developed nations.
            Nuff said!

            {"commentId":5723994,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"taitravis"}
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             - Tai T.
             - 11:37 pm EST on Tue Mar 3, 2009
            No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

            Doctors should be subject to the same performance reviews by their customers as any other business.

            {"commentId":5724060,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"jaker-1"}
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             - 11:40 pm EST on Tue Mar 3, 2009
            No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

            Just shows what's wrong with our medical system. Doctors think their medical skills are more important than their people skills.

            {"commentId":5724167,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"MahaDave"}
               - 11:47 pm EST on Tue Mar 3, 2009
              No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

              Not only would I not sign, I'd let the world know if my refusal to sign got me a refusal of medical service or treatment.

              {"commentId":5724915,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"pdeuth"}
                 - PDeuth
                 - 12:38 am EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                There are excellent doctors out there, if one is a lemon the public has a right to express it and know. The Doctor could then improve

                {"commentId":5725800,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"jamesvanspach"}
                   - 2:21 am EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                  No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                  But I do NOT support anonymous postings. Track them, and hold folks liable if they lie, that's libel after all.

                  {"commentId":5725806,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"fredevil"}
                     - 2:22 am EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                    I'm not sure.

                    would need to read full contract.- what else does it prohibit ?

                    {"commentId":5727777,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"byoung-2"}
                       - mac-rn
                       - 8:14 am EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                      No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                      There are real Doctors and then there are people simply 'Licensed' to practice medicine". Sigh!

                      {"commentId":5728062,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"cheapcharlie"}
                         - 8:35 am EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                        Definitely. I trust my doctor completely. Besides, if a physician is truly bad and patients need to be warned, there are better, more legitmate ways to complain about the care provided.

                        What method is there to protect a physician from one angry patient who rights a review that is inaccurate? Can an MD respond to the review

                        {"commentId":5728735,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"jayharris"}
                           - LAJay
                           - 9:17 am EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                          No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                          Not only wouldn't I sign a waiver, I'd change physicians if asked. Good practice prevents complaints.

                          {"commentId":5731842,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"ladyprof"}
                             - 11:29 am EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                            No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                            A posting about an arrogant and disinterested Dr. was addressed by another Dr. as it "says nothing about what should really matter " WOW!!

                            {"commentId":5734652,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"croye"}
                               - 1:08 pm EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                              Definitely. I trust my doctor completely. Besides, if a physician is truly bad and patients need to be warned, there are better, more legitmate ways to complain about the care provided.

                              If a doctor does not meet your needs, find a new doctor who does. There are truly some who do really care about the care you receive.

                              {"commentId":5735118,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"bkaufmann"}
                                 - bethcat
                                 - 1:24 pm EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                                No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                                Absolutely not. This way doctors will be on their toes about giving good customer service.

                                {"commentId":5736662,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"c-sposito"}
                                   - DaysieD
                                   - 2:17 pm EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                                  No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                                  OTOH, if a doctor is good, I would also share that with other potential patients.

                                  {"commentId":5743702,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"pusscat"}
                                     - 7:10 pm EST on Wed Mar 4, 2009
                                    No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                                    I think the trouble is with the readers of the postings. We can tell the difference between a valid complaint and @!$%#ing I would hope!

                                    {"commentId":5748334,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"annckeirns"}
                                       - 12:16 am EST on Thu Mar 5, 2009
                                      No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                                      It's time patients had a forum to provide feedback on doctors instead of suffering in silence. Compassion should be a priority.

                                      {"commentId":5750583,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"fionaferguson"}
                                         - 6:54 am EST on Thu Mar 5, 2009
                                        No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                                        I've had one awful Dr a neurologist who told me I was crazy when I was having seizures. I tell EVERYONE to stay away from him!!

                                        {"commentId":5751217,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"jlfaucher"}
                                           - 8:12 am EST on Thu Mar 5, 2009
                                          No way! If a doctor is bad, I'm going to spread the word however I can to warn other patients.

                                          Because of my lifelong misdiagnosis experiences and some outright bad treatment based on wrong ideas I will not give up my right to speak .

                                          {"commentId":5757225,"threadId":"517562","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"floaterslc"}
                                             - Freddd
                                             - 12:55 pm EST on Thu Mar 5, 2009
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                                            {"commentId":5719058,"authorDomain":"sjblot"}

                                            its all about FREEDOM OF SPEECH....don't spit on the constitution that grants us that right...which includes the right to protest in ANY form or fashion, As long as I am not hurting the doctor physically.

                                            {"commentId":5719058,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"sjblot"}
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                                            Reply#1 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 7:20 PM EST
                                            {"commentId":5720815,"authorDomain":"daisy5m72"}

                                            I'm guessing that the doctors who want their patients to sign these contracts know they're going to get dinged on the internet either because of their poor people skills or their poor professional skills. Either way, I would be very suspicious of a doctor asking me to sign a contract essentially barring my first amendment rights.  I think if a physician has an unusually high number of complaints posted, it's evident something is amiss. Mutual respect and feeling comfortable communicating with your physician is just as important as the physician's medical skills. If a patient is really concerned about the physician's medical skills, then there are websites where any disciplinary action against a physician is readily available.

                                             

                                            {"commentId":5720815,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"daisy5m72"}
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                                            Reply#2 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 8:43 PM EST
                                            {"commentId":5721184,"authorDomain":"bruceanddoris"}

                                            Being a Registered Nurse for many years and having worked with and for many Physician's, I would take skill hands down over bedside manner if I was having surgery. Charm doesn't give the best results. Save it for your PCP.

                                            {"commentId":5721184,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"bruceanddoris"}
                                              Reply#3 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 9:03 PM EST
                                              {"commentId":5721441,"authorDomain":"vismajor"}

                                              Where does the doctor post his skill rating? Patients don't have the knowledge you have regarding a doctor's skill. Do you think peer reviews should be public?

                                              {"commentId":5721441,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"vismajor"}
                                                #3.1 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST
                                                {"commentId":5725039,"authorDomain":"bruceanddoris"}

                                                Vis:

                                                Look up his credentials. Does he belong to organizations that support his speciality? Does he have any negative reporting against his license? You can find out this information though your states Department of Health and through the organizations they belong to. You are also able to find out where they went to Medical School and where they did their residency. Ask the physician how many of the procedures/surgeries he has done. Never have someone work on you until you have checked out the above. I have worked with many doctors who are really nice people but could use some help in the skills department and some that have absolutely no people skills but would be the only one I would want to treat one of my family members. As far as peer reviews, two things make it difficult. First one is that if you write "They are a great surgeon but a a-hole" most people would avoid them. Second if you write " There wonderful and a great bedside manor" you set yourself up. My opinion is just that. We all have different personalities, and impressions are so subjective. Do your homework on anyone you are trusting with your life. Credentials are not subjective.

                                                {"commentId":5725039,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"bruceanddoris"}
                                                  #3.2 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:48 AM EST
                                                  {"commentId":5725599,"authorDomain":"dan42day"}

                                                  Stanwoodgirl:

                                                  I have to disagree with your low rating of people skills. Yeah, I love House - damn good doctor that nearly kills his patients before finally getting his diagnosis right at the last minute on a weekly basis - but that's just TV.

                                                  When it comes to a specialist, medical skill is probably way more important. But for a general practitioner, people skills is a must. I have known many people who are too intimidated to question their own doctor when things don't seem right.

                                                  I am with Kaiser Permenente and have a CNP as my primary care physician. She may not be the best all around doctor, but she listens to me. I'm a fairly bright person who enjoys researching things, and there have been a few times when I have disagreed with her diagnosis. While she is very self confident and can be assertive, she doesn't get bent out of shape when I disagree, and actually seems to enjoy arguing with someone that somewhat understands the subject. She usually does turn out to be right, but not always. That doesn't seem to bother her either. I feel very fortunate to have a physician that appreciates my efforts to understand the conditions I have. Whether or not that promotes my physical health, it certainly improves my quality of life.

                                                  That said, while I would like to have as much information about my health care providers as possible, being aware of the insane ranting that goes on in many of these forums, I can certainly understand why many doctors would prefer not to be subjected to vicious slander.

                                                  {"commentId":5725599,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"dan42day"}
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                                                  #3.3 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 1:51 AM EST
                                                  {"commentId":5726394,"authorDomain":"vismajor"}

                                                  I want actual peer reviews. The opinion of other doctors on how good this doc is. And I want to know not just how many times he did a procedure but how many times the doc screwed it up. Where do I find that out? That's right, I don't get that info, not from anyone but the former patient.

                                                  {"commentId":5726394,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"vismajor"}
                                                    #3.4 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:23 AM EST
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                                                    {"commentId":5721318,"authorDomain":"griffintracy2006"}

                                                    Malicious rumors and dissatisfied patients comments need to placed in a separate category.

                                                    But reporting the existance of another quack physician in our midst is the right of every person. They already do enough harm to unsuspecting patients. Then add on top of that more new doctors that have no business in the profession, I think not.

                                                    It is no different than spreading the word about another shyster attorney or a car dealership that takes advantage of little old ladies.

                                                    Why would I not want to keep someone else from being duped or injured permanently because of a incompetent Doctor?

                                                    {"commentId":5721318,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"griffintracy2006"}
                                                      Reply#4 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 9:10 PM EST
                                                      {"commentId":5726381,"authorDomain":"vismajor"}

                                                      I like it. Label one list Reporting Quacks and the other Malicious Rumors. Which one will fill up?

                                                      {"commentId":5726381,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"vismajor"}
                                                        #4.1 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:20 AM EST
                                                        {"commentId":5731523,"authorDomain":"workingmom79"}

                                                        I agree that there should be freedom of speech (unfortunately some abuse it with libelous comments), however, other businesses and service providers have the opportunity to defend themselves with facts of the case. Because of privacy laws physicians are forbidden to do so. Somehow that has to be resolved because you can't have it both ways.

                                                        {"commentId":5731523,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"workingmom79"}
                                                          #4.2 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 11:17 AM EST
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                                                          {"commentId":5721322,"authorDomain":"ikewaller"}

                                                          Doctors who provide successful results for their patients should have nothing to worry about. It is those physicians who have something to hide such as botched surgeries, inadequate prescriptions, under or over treating patients who want to keep their activities secret. Then there are the drug companies who 'buy' doctors with their lobbying efforts to push one drug over another or use one hi-tech piece of equipment to perform a procedure they come into play. It's time physicians are held accountable for their actions. If they perform and care for their paying patients in an upright manner they should have nothing to hide, if they do not or if they continue to overcharge and push procedures patients do not need to pad their own pockets then they should surely be held accountable. What is wrong with transparency with those people who hold our lives in their hands? What are they really afraid of that they need a patients to sign a this form? State regulatory agencies certainly do not discipline physicians to any degree. Americans need to hold these people accountable, we should be demanding access to physician performance records so we have the knowledge necessary to make a sound and informed decision before handing over our bodies to them.

                                                          {"commentId":5721322,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"ikewaller"}
                                                            Reply#5 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 9:10 PM EST
                                                            {"commentId":5731676,"authorDomain":"workingmom79"}

                                                            Nothing to worry about?? As a clinic director there are patients who are totally irate because they couldn't get the doctor to prescribe medication (antibiotics, anti-depressants, pain medication, muscle relaxers, etc.) over the phone without an examination. There are others that literally yell at our receptionists because they can't get in exactly when they wanted (same day when the called mid-day) for non-urgent needs that can be seen next day (knee has been sore for 3 days, caught a cold yesterday/no fever, etc.). You're assuming that people are reasonable -- most are, but the ones that complain the loudest often are not. How do you address that -- especially due to privacy laws you can't even state that one of their facts or accusation is totally false and you have proof otherwise. Doesn't seem right.

                                                            {"commentId":5731676,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"workingmom79"}
                                                              #5.1 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 11:23 AM EST
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                                                              {"commentId":5721710,"authorDomain":"bgaineshunter-1"}

                                                              The doctor's interpersonal skills are just as important as his medical skill. As a matter of act, they are inseparable. I've learned not to back down to arrogant doctors. It's an ungoing skill that I'm perfecting. Many doctors do not listen, are arrogant and downright rude. More proper places to complain do not exist. Medical boards are already aware of the fact that many of their doctors have bad bedside manners. I first heard that as a child, and I am now in my late 40s. Medical boards do not discipline doctors for rudeness. Patients need to do it.

                                                              {"commentId":5721710,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"bgaineshunter-1"}
                                                                Reply#6 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 9:31 PM EST
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                                                                {"commentId":5723278,"authorDomain":"rajahcat6"}

                                                                I would sign a waiver for my current doctor because he has been and is a very good doctor. I have been to many shoddy doctors in the past, and I feel that many of them think their stuff doesn't stink because they have that medical degree, but when you find a good doctor, I think you would agree about signing the waiver. I have not been asked to do it though. I work in the medical field, and I have seen the bedside manner of many many doctors and it is atrocious the way some of them behave, but some of that "arrogance" is not really arrogance at all, they really do know what they are talking about and they just don't know how not to be arrogant.

                                                                {"commentId":5723278,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"rajahcat6"}
                                                                  Reply#9 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 10:57 PM EST
                                                                  {"commentId":5724271,"authorDomain":"btaxey"}

                                                                  I notice that complaints often cite a feeling that the doctor is lofty and/or cold but does not rise to the level of incompetence or malpractice, just a subjective view of the patients. First, doctors are not walking x-ray machines, nor do they possess “magical” powers. They cannot look through you and know what is wrong much less cure you. The DEPEND on a patient to TELL THEM their symptoms and then ask the patients questions to clarify answers to their questions in order to elucidate the doctor to make the decision whether to ask that tests be done if learning of he symptoms can’t lead to a definitive diagnosis.

                                                                  That said, having an outlet to vent such feelings just might make the doctor aware of how he or she is perceived and lead to a change of attitude. This could be a good thing and just might lead to a change of attitude on the part of some physicians (and there are many who are in serious need of a personality transplant!).

                                                                  As for being asked to sign a contract that would prevent me from reviewing a doctor online? Such hubris! And since when should any patient have to forfeit his or her Constitutional right to free speech in order to be treated? That’s as bad as demanding cash from an uninsured patient before agreeing to even look at the symptoms even though the patient is in extreme pain It happened to me. The doctor wouldn’t let me remove my shirt but rather instructed me to go to the bank and get $200 cash! I left, passed my bank on the way, and went home only to wind up in the emergency room very late that night!

                                                                  {"commentId":5724271,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"btaxey"}
                                                                    Reply#10 - Tue Mar 3, 2009 11:54 PM EST
                                                                    {"commentId":5724607,"authorDomain":"MahaDave"}

                                                                    This isn't really a question of constitutional free speech. Nobody is forcing you to say or not say anything. Nobody is punishing you for saying something. I don't think free speech means you can say anything at any time without consequence. In this case, you have the choice of agreeing to sign the paper or not. An agreement is an agreement. If you sign it you've relinquished your own right to say anything. The constitution isn't involved.

                                                                    {"commentId":5724607,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"MahaDave"}
                                                                      #10.1 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:15 AM EST
                                                                      {"commentId":5726435,"authorDomain":"vismajor"}

                                                                      But is such an agreement valid? If you are sitting there with a fever or a fractured leg or whatever, are you really in an equal bargaining position with the doctor over the terms of the contract? And which doctors are more likely to ask you to sign? Do you think it may be the ones who get the bad comments?

                                                                      If I ran one of those lists i would tell the doctor that I had no contract with him/her. I would say that I have no way of knowing if the person who signed the piece of paper was the patient who left the comment. Can the doctor get a court order? Can the doctor sue the patient? For what type of damages? If the comment is slanderous, the doctor doesn't need the paper to sue.

                                                                      {"commentId":5726435,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"vismajor"}
                                                                        #10.2 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:34 AM EST
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                                                                        {"commentId":5724383,"authorDomain":"MahaDave"}

                                                                        While it's important to protect doctors and other service providers from slander, doctors shouldn't be shielded from feedback. Let's face it, many of them act arrogantly. Maybe it's because they feel overworked and in a hurry, but if things are going to change, they need to know how their customers see them. The whole medical system needs to start seeing itself as a service industry if it's going to provide the kind of healthcare Americans are looking for. Other service industries live and die by customer feedback. So should medicine. That doesn't mean doctors should make medical decisions based on what the patient thinks. But they'd better learn how to educate the patient about what they're doing and gain the patient's trust. If they do that, they won't have to worry about nasty comments being published online.

                                                                        {"commentId":5724383,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"MahaDave"}
                                                                          Reply#11 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:01 AM EST
                                                                          {"commentId":5724628,"authorDomain":"jimg45"}

                                                                          Rare is the physician that is worthy of his or her own arrogance.

                                                                          {"commentId":5724628,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"jimg45"}
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                                                                          #11.1 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:16 AM EST
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                                                                          {"commentId":5724524,"authorDomain":"jimg45"}

                                                                          The only regulation of physicians is peer regulation. While MD's are required to complete CME's they are not required to complete ongoing competencies. Alerting the public to potentially unsafe and/or ineffective practitioners through experience is a good way to help limit problems.

                                                                          {"commentId":5724524,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"jimg45"}
                                                                            Reply#12 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:11 AM EST
                                                                            {"commentId":5724549,"authorDomain":"MahaDave"}

                                                                            The medical system could head this problem of theirs off by establishing a three-part rating system for themselves. Every doctor and medical facility could be independently rated on patient feedback, medical skill and medical outcome of treatments. This would provide a fair comparison for patients to see and for doctors to use in improving their professional skills.

                                                                            {"commentId":5724549,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"MahaDave"}
                                                                              Reply#13 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:12 AM EST
                                                                              {"commentId":5724597,"authorDomain":"jimg45"}

                                                                              Most hospitals do have ongoing performance reports based upon patient satisfaction feedback. The ones I have worked at over the last twenty years have. The medical outcome reports (sic) are reported and can be looked up.

                                                                              {"commentId":5724597,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"jimg45"}
                                                                                #13.1 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:15 AM EST
                                                                                {"commentId":5724660,"authorDomain":"MahaDave"}

                                                                                Why do you include the (sic)? Is there a different industry term for 'medical outcome'?

                                                                                {"commentId":5724660,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"MahaDave"}
                                                                                  #13.2 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:19 AM EST
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                                                                                  {"commentId":5727658,"authorDomain":"ceasterchristian"}

                                                                                  Incompetent doctors and PA`s need to be policed somehow and if they are good they should not care about internet postings. I am bias however since I just lost my husband to cancer that should have been discovered much earlier. He was treated for chronic bronchitis for 11 months before I insisted we go to the emergency room for his symptoms. His doctor had never ordered a chest x-ray over that period and within 3 hours the er had diagnosed his 3mm tumor encasing the pulmonary artery and paralyzed his vocal cords(hence the hoarseness). Of course it took a couple of days to tell us what kind and to get his tests complete but this doctor had ignored the hoarseness because of asthma.(He said) He was diagnosed in Sept, and died in June. Of course I don`t blame the doctor for his cancer but he was negligent in his treatment and callous in his treatment of me during my husbands illness. I live in a small town but on one visit for me(during his treatments) the doctor didn`t even know who I was. Said it was great we caught the cancer because of chest pains. He was talking about another patient. Didn`t even know who I was even though he had my chart right in front of him. Of course I now have a different doctor but feel others should know about him. I am all for public ratings of physicians. Educated people should be able to tell the difference between malicious postings and real concerns such as mine.

                                                                                  {"commentId":5727658,"threadId":"517551","contentId":"2502277","authorDomain":"ceasterchristian"}
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                                                                                  Reply#14 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 8:04 AM EST
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                                                                                  {"commentId":5728305,"authorDomain":"cheapcharlie"}

                                                                                  The excuse that a physicians' poor people skills may obsfucate the ability of the reviewer to write an objective article is lame. If you are a great attorney but still torque the judge off you cannot do a good job for your client so what is so hard to understand about if a doctor irks his patient that his prowess as a phsyician is similarly compromised. If a highly trained skilled physician cannot control his emotional outbursts, frustrations and rage during normal everyday personal face to face encounters why would I and why should trust him with my critical health care needs in crisis?

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                                                                                    Reply#15 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 8:50 AM EST
                                                                                    {"commentId":5728429,"authorDomain":"techster5"}

                                                                                    I have dealt with many arrogant doctors in my dealings with chronic pain. I had dealt with one doc with whom I had to tell that I have more degrees in more fields than he did as a doctor and not to talk down to me as my IQ was most likely higher than his. He then treated me with respect. The thing is, they think they are smarter than all others because of their many years in Medical school. I told him going to school didn't make him smart any more than standing in a garage made him a car...

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                                                                                    Reply#16 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 8:59 AM EST
                                                                                    {"commentId":5729293,"authorDomain":"andreame6"}

                                                                                    Well said.

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                                                                                      #16.1 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:43 AM EST
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                                                                                      {"commentId":5729372,"authorDomain":"andreame6"}

                                                                                      If I ever saw a doctor who attempted to have me sign one of these agreements, I would laugh, and leave the office right then and there. Sorry, docs, you are subject to reviews just like any other professional in any other line of work. I recenly discovered online physician reviews, and they are one of the best tools for patients looking for a quality, competent doctor. I have had some excellent physicians in my time, but also enough really bad ones - doctors who did not listen, constantly interrupted, were arrogant, condescending, and ignorant about recent medical advancements - to know how important it is to get the best picture you can about who you are trusting with your health.

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                                                                                        Reply#17 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:47 AM EST
                                                                                        {"commentId":5734069,"authorDomain":"symons"}

                                                                                        It seems to me, rather than creating a hostile environment for patients, it would be more fruitful and more genuine if these doctors lobbied the state and federal governments to create truly accurate oversight bodies where complaints are vigorously investigated by qualified investigators, and more importantly, valid complaints are made public for everyone to review.

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                                                                                          Reply#18 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 12:49 PM EST
                                                                                          {"commentId":5742449,"authorDomain":"bdebhudson"}

                                                                                          People have to realize, Doctors practice medicine. The don't know everything. No one does, there are some good and some bad. Its just sad to think that the richest country in the world cant get good medical help, or take care of there poor. Explain that one for me.

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                                                                                            Reply#19 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 6:01 PM EST
                                                                                            {"commentId":5745213,"authorDomain":"axisman3"}

                                                                                            To bdebmac; If doctors are practicing medicine. WHY DO THEY CHARGE SO MUCH. In fact if they dont know, how can they charge you at all. I know this story very well. Three years I lived in severe pain and fear. The problem occured after a new drug was prescribed to me for my diabetes. (never made it through the whole bottle). When the heart problems started. All I was told for those three years was THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR HEART. Its in your head. They even sent me to a shrink. That was until I had not ONE but TWO massive heart attacks withen two weeks. ( the second one the day they released me) And do you know what that geedy BASTARD told me. This is practice of medicine we dont know every thing. What a line of . The problem is GREED in the medicial profession, and you have to look no futher than the women with six kids who now has eight more. That was done to make money and the only reason it was done. Take the money away, then you will have Doctors who care more about thier profession than money.

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                                                                                              Reply#20 - Wed Mar 4, 2009 8:33 PM EST
                                                                                              {"commentId":5748486,"authorDomain":"momano"}

                                                                                              You have nothing to fear but fear itself unless what the person is posting is true....

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                                                                                                Reply#21 - Thu Mar 5, 2009 12:32 AM EST
                                                                                                {"commentId":5757444,"authorDomain":"floaterslc"}

                                                                                                I have had the experience of telling a dentist about what a previous dentist did wrong, told him that if he wasn't very careful that he too would do it wrong for the same reason and had him go ahead and do it wrong again and then want to charge me for the redo. I've had this kind of experience over and over with doctors of all varieties. Some are so arrogant that they don't give what the patient says any consideration. MDs have misdiagnosed me all my life, treated me based on those wrong diagnoses and when the treatments didn't work, blamed me for it because Its All In Your Head and then when the real problem was finally found after 55 years dismissed me from their practices when I informed them of the real problem. A lifetime of problems has cleared up with correct treatment by an MD who doesn't play blame the patient.

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                                                                                                  Reply#22 - Thu Mar 5, 2009 1:05 PM EST
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