Should coach who posed nude get her job back?

A. The parent was not "trolling the internet" looking for this, Adelle mentioned that if she was to live up to a "higher standard" than most in order to be a Casa Robles cheerleader, why would their coach and role model not be held to the same standard? If this coach was naked on the internet, and the cheerleaders have to monitor the pictures they post on their myspace page, in their personal time...to adhere to the standards set by their school...how ON EARTH is it "okay" for this coach to be naked on a Playboy site?

B. Revenge? It's shameful, really. The lack of support for a set of parents trying to encourage their daughter to rail against something that is clearly a double standard. As the mother of a young daughter and a teenaged son, I would HOPE that I would have the guts to stand up to the community my family had been a part of for the entirety of their lives. This is a disgrace to women and CERTAINLY to female role models who are just as beautiful as Carlie...and choose to use their mental assets rather than their physical assets to get ahead in life.

Please, I beg you, before you post a comment to this story, think about what you would rather YOUR daughter do. Would it make you more proud to see them at the head of the Obama administration or at the head of the Playboy mansion dinner table? Think about that.

To the Geniella's: Keep on keepin' on...Adelle is obvioulsy becoming a strong and empowered woman who will know what a true role model should be.

Yes, Michael why should parents care if their children are being taught by persons in the porn world. I mean who wants their children to have role models with decency and morals, lol.

The sad thing is this girl is not cute in reality, the pics are so fake, altered.

When did nudity become porn? I'm sure that would be news to many of the great classical artists!

The sad thing is this girl is not cute in reality, the pics are so fake, altered.

I dunno, I saw the woman on the news this morning. Looked like the same person to me! But you're right, they're certainly altered. Maybe she had clothes on when they were shot! Would that make it OK?

I was surprised they recoginzed her, did she use her real name?

she was just a barely average looking girl with a padded bra on, tons of make up and her face and body did not match the pics whatsoever, it was an illusion they created, it's probably not her body parts either they do so much fake stuff to the pics, lol.

playboy and porn in general are simply vultures, they don't care is she gets fired or goes on to do porn movies and get aids, they just want $$$ and they get them from losers who live behind their computers paying to look at fake pics, sad really.

I also think posting a fake image is lying as well so.... such much for hypocrisy

Terri,

Sounds like a little bit of cat-fight jealousy on your part to pick her looks apart. Maybe deep down you wish that others would look and think of you as HOT too!

Girls are the worst critics of other girls! By my experience, the better looking the compitition is, the more the less fortunate girls will slam the other to make them selves look good.

Pull your claws in and give the girl her due for having the guts to do something others (and you) wished you were able to do but weren't blessed with her looks or body.

so, were the models who posed nude for the painters of yesteryear immoral? no. are you saying then that painting is art, but photography isn't art?

This is purely sour grapes on the part of the girl and her parents. If there were rumors, why wait to bring it to thier attention until after she was told she would not be allowed to try out next year. They used this hoping she would get fired and she could try out for cheerleading next year.

There is a difference between art and porn, if it's made for guys to jerk off to, it's porn. What she did was porn, do you think they were going to hang her pic in a museum lol? No, I wouldn't want her to teach my child, not with her values, what she did was public,not private.

Score one for the Christian Taliban.

Let's pose a hypothetical.

Angie Harmon, who used to be on Law & Order, decides to go get an education degree and become a teacher because before her acting career took off that is what she really wanted to do with her life.

She is a stanch Christian and a vocal Republican.

But wait....she did a nude scene in a movie.

Is she disqualified from ever teaching?

Are you kidding me?  It's not like it was a secret.  Posing for pornography is not something that a person working for a school system should do.  A good role model does not show girls how to objectify themselves.

I was wondering the same thing.  Who was looking for the nude pic on the Internet?

All other distractions aside, if her contract forbids this type of conduct, then she should be fired. If not, then no. Enough said.

Who says it is pornography! It may be art!!! Who makes that decision? She should not have been fired. People these days need to grow up. Americas attitude toward nudity is obsolete. Get over the Puritan views.

that is so true

There had been rumors for a while all over the school about her activities. The parents were checking it out to see if it were true. I don't think it was "revenge" per sa but what's good for one is good for the other. If this were a man doing that, most would want him burned at the stake as an immoral PERV!!! If she worked at a bank or a law office...no big deal BUT she was working with children and teens NOT appropriate! and I'm NO prude.

Bravo! JECD - make no mistake, the kids KNEW & either HAD SEEN or WILL SEE her pix. It was just a matter of time. Nevermind the fact that she's drop-dead gorgeous and appealing to see nude (and, call it art if you want); she either has to choose to be a teacher & thus maintain the necessary moral eptitude - [not all of which is written down, but would at least be socially-recognized as inappropriate for someone in such a position in direct guidance and leadership with our children] OR she can choose a profession whereby her exposing her body would not be a liability to character. This is not being self-righteous, it's about choices and consequences.

I agree 100% As a parent with a daughter it doesn't matter Man or Woman, it is and was inappropiate. And the rest of these other people on here, this is your problem because it does'nt matter to you just remember that the next time someone's precious little girl go's missing and they find her dead, you can think to yourself no problem it's what somescumbag doe's on his own time. This coach is the problem. She needs to stop and think, oh wait! she does'nt know how she can only take her clothes off and teach other girls to do that! You people are pathetic.

She shouldn't have been fired. It is purely revenge by a pissed off parent who's kid wasn't good enough to make the team. END OF STORY!

All other distractions aside, if her contract forbids this type of conduct, then she should be fired. If not, then no. Enough said.

Maybe I missed it, but did the article say whether she posed WHILE a coach or BEFORE she was a coach?

Also, would she have been fired if it wasn't Playboy? What if she accepted a one time job as a nude model for a photography class? Or even a life drawing class? What if she had posed 98% exposed for a print advertisment (plenty of examples out there)? What if she visited a nude beach?

What IS the standard here that she is being held to?

poor mother of this girl, showing her daughter that's it's ok to be jealous and a hater. thats what's wrong with this world we live, everyone is so judgemental of everyone else's lives. worry about parenting your child and having her go to school and this would have not happened. the mother is obviously jealous of the coaches great looks and better body.....rock on carlie.....hope they re-hire you girl!

I'm with you. And did they show the coach's picture to their daughter, perhaps to verify that it actually was her coach? If they did then that's showing pornography to a minor. That's a FELONY. If I was Beck, I'd be sure to bring that up in court.

Are you people retarded?! Any parent who's worth a penny is involved with their children's extra-curricular activities, so of course they're going to know the kids coach! They wouldn't have to show the picture to the daughter in order to know who she was. It's ridiculous to even think that that was the case! And, secondly, if you actually read the entire article, it says that the girl "Told her mom that she had heard rumors of the coach posing nude." So then the mom went and checked it out. As a mother, I would have done the exact same thing, no matter what. No, what she did wasn't illegal in any way, but it's still immoral conduct and, as such, barres her from employment in a school setting. End of discussion. It wasn't revenge, it was "Hey, mom..." and then it blew up.

No where in this artical did I read that the parents are the one that brought this to the daughters attention. The daughter remarked that she had "heard" that this person had put pictures on the internet on the playboy site - nude. The daughter was questioning the difference in standards. It is the old saying that I have heard many times in my life - "Do as I say, not as I do". Teachers should be held to a higher standard just as parents should be - society today is a disgrace. It is time that we all set ourselves to a higher standard with better morals.

I will bet that within 5 seconds from when the dad heard that the coach was posing nude he was on his computer searching and it was not to get her fired.

Rather vewed or not nomatter to me. She works for school not herself. NO JOB SEX IN SCHOOL!

right on. all this crap about her being a role model. parents need to man up. their kids ,their the rold models, dont be lazy parents and blame everyone else for stuff they do in private and try to say its bad for the kids. 90% of the kids would never even know about something like this if the nosy parents didnt need something to complaing about. and seems like they did an awful lot of leg work to dig this up. seem like the parents arent the role models they expect everyone else to be. pathetic. most people should never have kids if they want celebrities/athletes/teachers/coaches to do there job. sounds like targets of lazy parents. bottom line what are the parents hiding that they need to attack a 100% innocent women doing a job that obviously now a days parents cant do because they are LAZY!!. NEXT UP THE LAZY PARENTS FILE FOR A GET RICH QUICK CUZ WE ARE LAZY COURT CASE because let me guess the "kids" are emothinally scarred for life. grow the #### up america grow the $$$$ up where did our balls go. pathetic pathetic people.

yeah pay back all the way.... as a parent i would rather some one in Playboy teach my children the the pedophiles that are in our schools with them every day as teachers, janitors, etc. so what she took her cloths for for a few pics... who the hell hasn't ....I'm sure every couple has @ one time or another....so why burn her for it....we don't say you cant be a parent which is the most in portent ROLE MODLE of all cause you poss naked in personal pics right...as long as she conducts her self in a professional way at school and is not in appropriate with ANY STUDENT then who cares what she dose at home......

What school does your kid attend that is full of pedophiles? As far as the pictures are concerned, it doesn't say they were photos taken for personal use, they were professionally taken for the website.

I agree with what you say wholely what does this mother and her family want 15 mins of fame somewhere surely they could ve done something a bit more origional for this .

Or, it could be that the main difference between kids today and kids yesterday is simple..TECHNOLOGY! We didn't have it as children so we couldn't get in the trouble kids do today as easily. Same thoughts as when we were children, but technology has enabled kids to do things easily we couldn't back then.

Time for the codewords, eh? Let's just blame the liberals!

Let's see how that plays out, shall we?

In your mind: Liberals see no problem in a teacher who posed for Playboy before being hired as a cheerleading coach. Conservatives see no problem in a teacher who owns five assault rifles and goes out on weekends to shoot at targets that are life-sized facsimilies of people.

By using a label for people, you create a class of "others" that you view as different from yourself, but the label is fiction. I can, without difficulty, find people who consider themselves liberal who want to see her fired, and conservatives who do not. I can find life long Republicans who's let her keep her job, and lifelong Democrats who's fire her. I can find educators and union members who would support her firing, and business leaders who would want her to stay.

By placing all who disagree with you into a category of "other people," you have created the same mental model that Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot used to justify mass murder. After all, "those" people are what's wrong. Let's get rid of "them" and the world will be better.

Many members of my family have proudly served in the military. The eldest generation all fought in World War II. Although they all returned home, many of their comrades and friends were not so lucky. They were willing to give their lives to defeat people who classify people like you just did.

So don't tell me that the "bad" people have ruined America. We may disagree on an issue, and we may have an honest debate about it. That is our strength.

But the moment anyone starts sliding into "blaming the other," and blending one concern (nudity on the part of a teacher) with another (a woman's right to choose), and invoking labels to classify people... that is when the speaker has failed to live up to the ideals of our great nation... the right to speak freely, to think freely, and to respect the rights of others to do the same.

I will pray for you, that you will learn to respect all of God's children, without labels and without prejudice.

It is amazing that the conservative view of less government individual rights, and personal responsibilities only applies we you want them too. What happen to your view of it's the parent role to raise their children? As the mother said, I control who influence my daughter! and she is right! She should be her daughters role model, as long as the teacher was not nude during cheerleader practice where her daughter was affected, mind your business as you would wish others would stay out of yours!

I am a conservative person. I believe though that no one has a right to interfere in an adult's decision to pose nude, not naked, for a photographer. This decision does not reflect defective morals. Everyone should get out of other's bedroom's and personal lives that have nothing to do with being a good role model. She did not show the childre the pictures of her nude. That would be amoral. She did not take the children to the photoshoot. That would be amoral. She did not takr nude pictures of the children. That would be amoral. These are not liberal ideals these are conservative ideals. When did conservative and morals turn into a puritanical point of view? When did it become ok for people to rebuke another person for a choice they made that does not agree with what we would do? Just because some women and men are not comfortable enough in their own skin to see the beauty in the human form nude does not mean that people who do are amoral. Get out of my bedroom and everyone else's bedroom.

The parents' job is to protect their children.

In this incident, what are the parents protecting their children from? A picture that they wouldn't be viewing if their parents didn't go look it up?

Do these parents also protect their children from Alfred Stieglitz, Edward Weston, and Man Ray? Georgia O'Keefe or Picasso?

Is it just this particular cheesecake shot or do they cover their daughter's eyes when confronted by Michaelangelo's David?

if she posed for those pictures while she was the coach, then I would agree, but this was before she was the coach.

Any parent who shows pornograpy to their own daughter should loose custody. Quick! Call CPS! These people are sex offenders!!

WELL SAID!!! *clap clap*

i totally agree with you that parents are the best role models. i dont beileve the parents taught their daughter a good lesson by ratting her teacher out. what they taught her is inorder to get you way you are allowed to let other fall! im disgusted! i hope the cheerlead never makes it to any team!! period!

Role models? If you want to worry about that, then what kind of role models are we setting for our young men and women when the schools have cheer programs that put students into uniforms so skippy, they have to have special exemptions to wear them at school without violating school dress codes?

What kind of message is being sent when students, players, and their parents see those cheerleaders doing their routines at games? Well of course the message is that sex sells.

That particular role modeling is being taught in schools across the nation. Stamped, endorsed and supported by the schools. So I wouldn't pretend that there's some wholesome moral thing in danger here; this is high school cheerleading, not a convent cheer squad.

If cheering can be accepted for what it actually is, then all this coach did was more or less the adult version of the same thing. We don't pay our teachers and non-football coaches enough so I don't blame her if she needed the money, and if she just wanted to do it, that's fine too. No laws were broken.

One moral we do need to worry about is how this jilted student went all revenge on her coach. That's not a behavior we need to be encouraging in our students. The ends do not justify the means.

Now how ironic is this??? The names lol!! But yours is the first comment I've seen that points out the self-contradictory nature of this whole venture.

I think you are confusing naked and nude. They were nude shots not naked ones. You are making an attack with faulty reasoning.

The naked coach has to go. My folks wouldn't have stood for that kind of behaviour from a teacher/coach for 1 minute. Doing so would have condoned her behavior. That school district shouldn't condone it either. Our society has become so permissive that this kind of thing doesn't seem to bother anyone anymore. Kikaiju, and apparently many others seem to think this kind of conduct is to be expected.

I think David has a good point - WE need to be the role models for our children. How many kids do you know that will say that one of their parents is their hero? I knew a kid like Lance in school, and he just retired from the Air Force as a Brigadier General; I know he thought his dad was his hero. One of the big problems we have with our children is that so many parents are electing to delegate responsibility for their kid's upbringing to outside sources - schools/teachers/coaches, employers, neighbors. But, in the end, it's ultimately up to us as parents to do the hard work and be the role models our children need.

By allowing a cheerleading coach who poses nude for Playboy to keep her job, we allow our kids to think we don't care if that kind of thing matters to us - and in doing that, they will feel it is appropriate for them to do something like that, too. Yes, Kikaiju - it is a moral thing - it's not the difference between legal and illegal; it's the difference betwen right and wrong. And you should know the difference.

I think you are confusing naked and nude.

Nude - naked or unclothed, as a person or the body.

Naked - being without clothing or covering; nude.

Those are the primary definitions listed at dictionary.com . I'm in agreement with your overall point, angelike, that this is no big deal and people should mind their own business, but maybe you could explain the difference, as you see it, between nude and naked pix.

If this is immoral then by that standard, every teacher I have ever had should not have been teaching.

On their on time you could find them at the bars drinking or at the ball games smoking or just simply having a conversation with the girls in the school that were very likely not class related.

By your distorted view of what is moral and what kids should or should not be witness to, I would say to you, get a clue. This is the 21st century and anybody who tell me that I can't do something that is in fact NOT hurting anybody else, needs to have their rights as an American citizen revoked. This was and is a unconstitutional firing and the parents of the dog faced Adelle, need to take a long hard look in the mirror to see who is actually doing more harm to their daughter. Their ten minutes of fame on the Today Show should result in 30 days of hard labor for child endangerment for exposing their kid to the tremendous amount of torment and ridicule that she will be facing when she tries to go back to school. Really good parenting.

Nude is artistic, Naked is vulnerable.

Nude is her choice. Naked is when she gets caught in the shower.

They were nude shots not naked ones.

Nude is artistic, Naked is vulnerable.

Nude is her choice. Naked is when she gets caught in the shower.

Shouldn't (and doesn't) make a difference.

I forget who said it but (Frank Zappa?) we are all naked under our clothes.

These are probably some of the same people who go ape-@!$%# if a mother breastfeeds in public. Because god forbid that mother do the same thing the Virgin Mary had to do (and actually does in some works of Christian art).

Your name says it all.

Anyway, this coach was not doing anything to suggest/promote what she did to her students, she was doing her job and only her job.

Learning to respect their bodies falls under common sense and sex education, which falls under the parent or a professional to teach.

There were rumors all over the school for a long time about her activites outside of school... This to say the least a distraction from what the children were there for.... TO LEARN!!!! What were they learning from this?

who started them?

Young girls can respect their bodies and themselves because their PARENTS teach them to. This is the responsibility of parents, not the responsibility of schools, teachers, etc.. As long as she was not promoting her modeling or the website to the students, and behaved in a professional manner while she was coaching the students, she should have been left alone.

This was straight up "payback".

The kids all knew about this.

How did the kids find out? If they found out because Bucky McSpankerton was on his daddies computer. Because it stated in the article that she kept quiet about it, and it also stated that when they googled her name from the school computers the playboy site was blocked so you couldn't see it. So If a high school student found these pictures on their off time. WHERE WERE THAT KIDS PARENTS TO KEEP HIM OFF PLAYBOY.

Sorry morals are always the sole job of Parents. As Charles Barkley Stated "I'm and not a role model" His point at that time was that Parents are. Parents need to be and Parents have to stop taking the Easy Way Out and do their job.

This girl losing her spot on the Cheerleading squad was her mother's fault for not excusing the days she was out of school because "She's never skipped a day in her life" If you believe that. I knew plenty of kids growing up that their parents thought were angels and when the got in trouble it shocked them.

If there is nothing in her contract about this behavior than she was Illegally Terminated. Furthermore we are wasting our time and money on this when the school could be spending it instead of worrying about legal action from a fired teacher (Who has a case BTW) on books, paying teachers better so they don't need a second job that people may find "Morally Distasteful" or better equipment.

So, if the kids "ALL" knew about this. Then their parents failed to protect them from the very hazerdous internet. This is all the parents fault for not properly installing a "Nanny watch" program on their precious childrens computers. Give me a beak!

Parents these days are simply not doing their jobs!! They expect the schools to do it for them, saving them the time and energy that could be better spent getting drunk or going to the casino's.

Double standards are not going to go away anytime soon. Just look at all the troubled profesional athletes getting in trouble, but not having to pay the consequences. Don't you think that their behaviour is just as important in your childrens learning of good moral behaviour? They are teaching the kids that as long as you have money, you can do anything you want legal or otherwise without getting in trouble for it.

Do you have teenagers? There are no computer "nanny watch" that can stop a computer savy teen. Is all they need is an IPhone!!! Teens have money now a days, not like when I or my children were growing up. But there were rumors about this among the kids, especially the boys. schools do have a morales clause in the contracts.

Calling the kettle black, there, aren't we?

What about all the conservatives out there last weekend at their little "tea parties" whining & moaning about "Don't make me pay taxes!! "

Rush Limbaugh NEVER whines about unfairness or unjustness. He never complains that the "liberal" media was unfair to poor Prez Bush.

Michael Savage never complains about anything.

Glenn Beck never complains about anything.

Personally, I'd like to see the coach get rehired, because what she does in her personal life is HER business, as long as it's legal. I DON'T want her to stay fired.

Just because she had a "cybergirl of the week" (according to interview), does not mean she was employed, please present this evidence in order to talk about falsification.

What is wrong? Nothing. She was on an adult site, with an adult warning, and an agreement that you agree to if you surf, that you are 18 or older, and that it contains this material. Why be so offended by it if you know whats on the site? Its not like she was in a sex video of pornographic movie or picture of her doing things to people. It was just a picture of her body.

She did this in her private time. anyone that has a problem with, we should peer into their private lives and judge them too, we'll most likely uncover a lot of dirt.

Those girls are there for their coach back, not just to be on the media. So they might not hold up signs in a few days, their cause will still live.

Us liberal? You are the one peering into anothers life and judging them based off of their private life, something thats not even bad! So you're telling me that we should play "Big-Brother" - THAT is a liberal thing, you have been caught in hypocrisy.

A liberals mindview is actually to give everything to everyone, and make the un-normal and immoral "amoral", an ok thing and completely normal. They also have the views that big-brother is a highly ok thing to do, as well as make citizens pay for ILLEGAL peoples medical, school/college, translators, etc. apparently they dint know what ILLEGAL means (look at MA, as an example of a liberal state, they legalized almost every illegal thing)

"Besides in a few days those kids who want their fired cheerleading coach back will forget about it as soon as the news media dies down. There are many teen girls who will do anything to see themselves on the news. It would probably be the most fame they are ever "exposed" to in their life. So why not jump in and have fun while it lasts"

FANTASTIC. So these girls are likely to become nude models themselves without the "bad role model" cheerleading coach because as you said, they are pre-destined to get fame any way they can. Well, at least you (inavertently) support the coaches right to pursue legal activities outside of her low paying coaching job. And you support that these girls will soon be able to make that same choice if they want, because we live in a free country where fame craving teenagers can grow up to be porn stars.

Gotta love it

also she has the right to mention or not whether she was in the magazine frankly the school really doesnt have the right to inquire about that

The girls on the cheerleading squad are children, under the age of 18 and are not adult. The coach is an adult woman over the age of 18. Teachers are all over the age of 18. Most students in high schools are under the age of 18. All adults, teachers, coaches, and people working with these minor girls should be over the age of 18. These girls should be held to a higher standard because they are minors and if they take pictures of themselves that are nude are breaking the law. To posess those pictures is child pornography and wrong. Wearing clothing that is not allowed is wrong since it is breaking dress code. These are rules for the children not the adults. There are different rules and laws for adults because minor children and adults are not the same. Saying there is a double standard for children and adults is like saying that steak and oranges should be treated the same. Ms. Beck is a role model and is continuing to be one since she made a decision for herself. She is standing up for herself in the face of all this bigotry (if you are discriminating against her for her posing nude you are being a bigot) and will find her own justice without seeking solice from this tirade. She is being a strong young woman and showing character. That is who our daughters should be looking too. Just like Misstress Prynne in The Scarlet Letter she is showing these girls what it is like to be confronted and persevere with dignity.

also she has the right to mention or not whether she was in the magazine frankly the school really doesnt have the right to inquire about that

If the school made any inquiry at all prior to hiring her whether or not she'd ever done anything like this and she willfully withheld the information, the coach is done. If they didn't ask, they apparently didn't care and the coach is gonna be getting a nice FAT check!

The ONLY two criteria that should be considered in whether or not she should keep her job are: 1) did she show up everyday? 2) was she good at her job?

If the answer to both of those is "Yes" then no one has anything they can really say. Otherwise, everyone of you can be judged for ANY out of work behavior.

They would make a lot more money at the Playboy Mansion, that's for sure!!

the bottom line with all of you have never done anything wrong in your life is that you can judge others all you want but the minute something doesn't go your way, you are gonna take away their livelihood? come on..

this hole thing smells of the 13th kid on the little league all star team who wants dirt on the 12 th man, the school board members kid who gets a great football coach fired, the list goes on and on.. the only thing here is so called "morals" enter into the story..

look, all of your ultra conservate right wing fanatics love seeing naked women just as much as the rest of us, you just wont admit it.. did the parents have a point, maybe.. and the cheerleading coach should just go on with her life and learn that when you are dealing with teens, you better have a clean track record.

im not arguing that our role models shouldn't be clean, pure, etc. but the problem here is that many of us hold others to higher standards than ourselves, our clergy, our neighbors, our best friends. and when things don't go our way, we set our for what i would say is not a very christian act-REVENGE..

totally agree..My daughter is a competitive cheerleader and in the by laws she is suspended from the team if she is found to have posted indecent pics on her my space or her facebook. They represent the school and must show responsible behavior on and off the mat. I would have done the same thing. Shame on the parents who are allowing their girls walking around with posters advertising the playboy coach back. i teach my daughter to respect herself inside and out and I am not a puritan viewing person!

This coach should have thought about the consequences of her actions. She is not the first one to be fired for posing. i.e. Vanessa Williams. She interviewed for a teaching job not a dancing job.

Playboy Mansion Table

Shame on the parents teaching their daughter that skipping school is ok and revenge is even better.

I think posing in Playboy is small potatoes to that "moral" lesson.

Teach-

She didn't skip school. More fallacies perpetrated by people without the facts.

This was not revenge-shame on you for not gathering the truth before commenting.

Well, her mother said this morning on the Today Show that the girl had missed several classes and she (the mother) failed to get them excused. Who's fault is that?

Sure sounds like revenge to me!

seriously?  she wasn't being "racy". it's not like she had her legs spread. it's not like she was wearing school colors or had it in the background. it's not like she randomly took naked pictures of herself and put them on myspace or facebook. Playboy, whether people like it or not, is a company. it's not porn and it's no more degrading to women as magazines that have naked pictures of men are to those who pose there. it's her private life. why do you or anyone else care? and there is a huge difference between not being punctual when it's a written requirement and posing for pictures for a reputable magazine.  the kid knew what she was doing by not showing up when she was supposed to and the kid knew how to get back. i think that she and her family are manipulative and sulking and acting extremly immature. it's a human body. get over it. who decided that breasts are a no no in public but a guy can take his shirt off? the coach is in her 20s, maybe she was having a hard time finacially and did the Playboy shoot. there's a lot worse ways to make money. and don't get started with teen preg and stuff like that. posing naked doesn't get you pregnent or encourage pregnency. and in response what i'd rather see my kid doing; at the head of the Obama administration or at the head of Playboy i frankly don't care. if my kids happy, safe, healthy, and knows enough to not judge other's private life than be whatever ya wanna be. i'm sickened by how invovled American parents and schools are in personal matters. people are freaking out about the destraction from education, i can garentee you that there are teachers there who don't do their jobs and have never posed for Playboy, so does that make them better? no. worse even. she's in her 20's. she's still young. let her live her life, it's truly no ones buisness.

Maria-

Not very good arguments.

1. If Adelle had naked pictures on the internet, would she be cheering still for the school? No. She would not. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

2. "It's a human body, get over it." If the human body is so celebrated and there's no big deal about exposing yourself...why are you not naked on a billboard? Why are people arrested for indecent exposure?

3. The coach is 20. Not "in her 20s". I couldn't care less if she poses for Playboy-knock it out! She's beautiful and has every right to do what she wants. Do not, however, expect to not get backlash when involved with young women. Do not, however, expect to keep a job where "standards" are high and dished out to everyone on an equal level.

4. I WILL get started with teen pregnancy. Our children are bombarded by sex...much younger than they need to be. I agree, it is the parent's job to restrict what they are exposed to...but as a mother of two children...it's impossible to be at their side 24/7. Influences are influences and if this mother wants to show her daughter that "higher standards" does not include posing with your clothes off..MORE POWER TO HER!

5. I like that you wish your kids to be happy and healthy...kudos to you...I feel the same way. However, think of it this way: women have been fighting to be on "equal ground" for many many decades with men. Lillie Ledbetter finally got the equal pay law passed. Do you think she did it by taking off her shirt? No. Do you think the suffragist stood nude in front of Woodrow Wilson's white house? No. I think you will agree that there are much better ways of becoming a success than showing your body.

6. You're "sickened by how involved American parents and schools are in other's private lives"? You're kidding me, right? Do you even HAVE children? That is the most ridiculous idea I've heard on this comment stream yet. I would go to the ends of the earth to fight an injustice or prove to my children that good does conquer evil with the appropriate effort. Doing this involves being an integral part of their daily lives...school, friends, teachers, coaches, etc. A parent MUST know the influences their children face and remedy anything their family holds as negative or against their sensibilities. I can't believe you even said this.

7. I will glady let Carlie live her life. I hope it is a long, successful and prosperous one. However, I will continue to refuse her access to molding a young lady's mind if her actions, personal and professional, deem her to be inappropriate in my mind. If her actions were so benign and innocent, why did the school agree that she should not be in a position of role model to these ladies?

For the record, there are administrators at Casa Robles that have made it clear that they align themselves with the Geniella's but due to a district-imposed "gag order", are unable to make statements in that regard.

Please, people...use your brain. No one ever said Carlie was a horrible person for posing nude. That is completely her perogative...but please choose another venue for your other professional ventures...not my school.

lara, after your long, detailed post, you conclude by saying Carlie is not a "horrible person". Why then should she be kept separate from high school kids? You gave 7 points of why she is a blight on society and then deny it in the last paragraph.

David-

Did you even read my 7 points?

If you had, you would have read that no, I do not think Carlie is a blight on society but she should not expect everyone to have the same morals or sensibilities as she.

Bottom line, again, is this: standards are imposed to create equality among the masses. If Adelle must live up to the standards imposed, so must Carlie.

I am trying to prove my point that though Carlie is not a "bad person", she made a decision to do something that is not universally regarded as being an action that good role-models would take. Some think it is okay and others think it is not...but as all intelligent people know...if something you do doesn't "sit right" with those imposing the standards for all...then you will have to pay the consequences. Both Adelle and Carlie now see that.

Oh, and sorry for the long posts...I get carried away sometimes. :) ha!

I did read every one of your 7 points.

Some think it is okay and others think it is not...but as all intelligent people know...if something you do doesn't "sit right" with those imposing the standards for all...then you will have to pay the consequences.

If some think it's OK and some don't, why should those that don't automatically win the argument? Especially when nothing illegal has been done? Maybe those parents should exercise their right to withdraw their kids from cheerleading if they don't like the coach!

Maria-

Not very good arguments.

1. If Adelle had naked pictures on the internet, would she be cheering still for the school? No. She would not. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

WTF? She is a minor. LEGALLY a completely different arguement.

Doug-

We are not arguing a legal matter here. If Adelle was 18 and a cheerleader as a Senior in high school, and she posed for naked pictures...she would not be a cheerleader any longer. That is my point. Standards imposed for the masses must be followed by the masses. There's no "picking and choosing" who gets to follow the rules and who doesn't. Thus, being that the issue at hand is that the high standards that disqualified Adelle from cheering were upheld...so must they be for the coach who posed nude. If the principal or the vice principal or the History teacher were found to have naked pictures on the internet somewhere...my guess is that they too would be looking for a new job.

David-

You're a worth adversary, my friend. I completely understand your argument but it lacks one simple reasoning: public nudity is not considered to be a professional or educational high point. Is this wrong? Maybe. Should everyone start coming to work naked? Maybe. But at 11:04 CST on Tuesday, April 21, 2009, if I walk into work naked...I'm getting covered up by something and asked to leave. As I'm leaving, if I walk to my car naked...there is a good chance I will be arrested for indecent exposure.

Carlie hasn't ONLY posed for Playboy, which as many have pointed out, is a restricted site...there are nude and partially-nude photos of her available elsewhere on non-restricted sites. If you don't think the internet is "public"...then you're kidding yourself.

If life was so easy and the internet was a "private" place for "private" interaction...then the UT football player who posted racist remarks on Facebook would not have been kicked off the team...and the Myspace blogger who stated death threats towards the President would not have been arrested and indicted for terroristic threats.

It's the world we live in gentlemen-like it or not, there are rules, societally imposed or legally imposed. The way we govern ourselves must be in accordance with these rules or there are consequences to pay...either penally or by the public's judgement and outcry. May not be correct...but it's the way it is.

Oh and Doug...stop cussing at me. We are debating, not demeaning.

Lara, I think Doug meant 'Where's The Fridge'. You're being way too sensitive!

public nudity is not considered to be a professional or educational high point. Is this wrong? Maybe. Should everyone start coming to work naked? Maybe.

I like the flexibility of thought you hint at! Maybe there's hope for you! But there are flaws in your argument so glaring that I'm sure you can see them yourself.

1. In this case, no one came to work naked and the fact that kids may have access to the internet is not the coach's fault. The was no "public nudity". No one is going to see them on a billboard or passing by their dining room windows during dinner. They are behind the door of the internet and no one is going to see them with willingly peering through that keyhole we call a screen.

2. You seem to suggest that that her nudity on the internet is what made this egregious, the fact that kids COULD see the pics because no one can control the access they have. Can I assume then, that if there were NO pics at all but the coach had worked worked at a strip club as a nude dancer, that would be OK with you? After all, they don't let kids in those places. Big muscly guys check ID's at the door! What if she had worked at a strip club as a bar tender ONLY, never taking her clothes off at all. Could she keep her job as coach? What if she worked as a nude model at a university art school? There's be pics of her all over the place! No cheerleading coach job if she did that?

3. If you think as you suggest, that maybe our society is way too concerned about nudity, why aren't you willing to defend that position?

Our kids are obsessed with nudity and sex because we struggle so HARD to repress it! REPRESSION creates OBSESSION! She posed naked! So what? We really NEED to change our perspective on this if we're going to have a healthy society.