| Type | Comments Since You Last CheckedArticle | Source | Last Checked |  |
 |
Newsvine is msnbc.com's social-news community where you can discuss stories, publish your own column, and connect with other news lovers.
No! If this product is sold over the counter, parents would not have to be notified. The girl is having unprotected sex and could be at risk of diseases.
#1 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:34 PM EDTIn most states parents already don't have to be notified if the minor is 13 or older.
Needing plan b doesn't mean that you were having unprotected sex. Accidents happen.
If a girl is afraid to tell her parents she is having sex, that says a lot more about her relationship with her parents than anything else. America's Puritanical attitudes are the root of the problem here, not sex.
No, sex is the problem. I'm a teenager with alot of.... well "wordly" friends who beleive that since evryone else has sex they should too.
My own sisters think the only way they can be happy is by havign a guy every night.
It has nothing to do with parents. We're idiots. Once something becomes "fad" - rumor or not - we follow it.
That's pretty weak and doesn't offer any real reasons for withholding it from teenagers.
If a girl is capable of having sex, she should be able to procure birth control PERIOD.....
and for those blind mama's out there, whose little darlings won't be doing that, YOUR little girl is probably the WORST.
and for those blind mama's
Soon to be blind grandmamas
absolutely
#2 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:35 PM EDTNo you can't regular birth control pills without a prescription so why should 17 yr olds be allowed (or any age) to get Plan B w/o a prescription
#3 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:51 PM EDTUm ya you can get birth control pills without a prescription. Sorry do your research
I agree 100% with parkerse41!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are not legally an adult until you are 18!
#4 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:59 PM EDTWhat does being an adult have to do with having sex - you don't have to be an adult to have sex. Our teen pregnancy rate proves it. Kids are having sex anyway (you're fooling youself if you think otherwise), it's best to give them available options.
NO! A minor is a minor and the parent still has the right to know, who cares if she's out having sex at 13 or whatever age she wants, until she's emancipated or can sign a legal document for herself, she has no rights. permiscuous little slut
#5 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:01 PM EDTNo too much risk involved and not enough info and responsibility
#6 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:02 PM EDTDo You know the risks?
No way!!! this opens all sorts of problems like an older male who is 17 and tries to convince a 14 year old to have sex...or how about them not having to bother with protection at all now.How many teens will now end up with std's. This gives the male so many more ways to pressure a female into having sex. Older Males taking advantage of younger females who may not be ready!!!!
#7 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:11 PM EDThad not thought about it that way and it's soooooo true! anyone can use that excuse...
I dont think it should be allowed it just gives way for many ignorant people out there to think they are safe about not getting pregnant and not worry about any STDs
Why does the government and the judicial system keep taking away our parental rights? It is so sad that it could be possible for a young girl (who is really not mature enough to have taken that step to start with~I have a young daughter and will most definitely talk with her when she is old enough~please don't say that she is. She is 8 years old and still under my watch) to have access to a pill like this. Birth control is a private issue between a doctor and patient. This is a form of birth control. I
If your child skips school, you as a parent can be held accountable for it. If your child commits a crime, you as the parent can be held accountable. If your child wrecks your car, you as a parent can be held accountable.
But it is okay to take away a parent's right to say what chemicals can be put into that child's body?
What happens when the one child who has an adverse reaction to this drug and dies, is the parent going to held accountable and charged with child endangerment?
#8 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:19 PM EDTTo "My2cents-427724: My hat's off to you, well stated.
In my state the age of adulthood is 19. I was raped when I was 14, so are you saying that girls in my situation shouldn't be allowed to go to the store or the pharmacy and get this to prevent pregnancy from her rapist because it is a "take two pills" pill with similar hormones to birth control? She should have to have parental consent when it is likely she won't even be able to talk about the incident?
What about the legal age of consent? In most states that is 16. What if a girl is convinced to have sex without a condom? She should have to go tell her parents that she is sexually active just to avoid getting pregnant because she is two years under the "adult" age?
It is ridiculous. I understand the parents concern for their children, but your daughter is a person, too. She has the right to decide how to take care of herself, and that involves emergency contraception WITHOUT having to have parental consent.
Honestly if you're raped when your 14 you need to go to a hospital not get an over the counter pill
BoomkinBabe,
While I admire your courage for going through your situation, you are very misguided in your statements. First off, in most states the age of "PARENTAL" consent is 16, not "child consent". If you are 16 and have sex a parent can press charges against you or your parents can press charges against the other involved. And yes, even at 6 months under the age of 18 a child should have to consult their parents... and while not all parents are level-headed enough nor caring enough to actually set aside anger and help their child through tough ADULT decisions it is important their right to be informed is there.
And the case of rape is not an okay for girls to go behind their parents back. The problem is we need to encourage these girls to speak out and seek the help they should be getting. By not speaking out about their rape and reporting it they are condoning the rape. My wife was raped so don't think I am trying to trivialize this situation.
Oh and I forgot... yes my children ARE individual people... and that is why I want to be involved so I can TEACH them how to take care of themselves. I want them to be able to handle the adult world on their own. This has nothing to do with individual freedom or liberty, this is about a parent's right to be involved and empower their children to be stronger, wiser individuals.
My wife was raped by her father and brother, taking turns. So, do you advise parental consent in those situations? He was a VIP in her small rural town. Going to the police would have resulted in more beatings, not stopping them. She repeatedly ran off until 16, then she managed not to get caught again.
It's even more important that the morning after pill becomes available to younger girls, like those at age 12. 17 is a ridiculous high age. Sticking your head in the sand will only lead to more teen pregnancies. Even your hero-out-of-convenience Bristol Palin said that she wished her pregnancy could have happen TEN years from now. Not 3, not 5, not seven. BUT TEN years. Think about that. Teen pregnancy is not an act of God, but of teens.
To be against premature sex, I can understand that somewhat. But to be against contraception??? This puts you in line with the Pope, someone Evangelicals love to hate. do you people WANT as much teen pregnancies as you can get or something? And yes the condom breaks, however what if the condom DOES NOT break? And teens' promises to abstain break much faster and frequent.
It's absolutely disgraceful to say to BoomkinBabe "sorry you got raped but you are a moron anyway"
To those ones who say NO: You are completely focused on your own parental rights, and are home-dictators. What about the rights of the child? And 17 is way too old, it should be 12 or at least 14, surely in cases of (parental) rape. For all other cases: If you can't keep you kid from having unprotected sex at those ages, just admit you're a lousy parent to begin with. But of course you won't which will result in either a pregnant 15 year old, a completely repressed teen or, most likely, both.
My wife got repeatedly raped by her reverend father and her brother. She was too afraid to speak out in their evangelical rural community. Her mother told her to endure it, when she finally even admitted that it was going on, after YEARS. She ran away repeatedly until age 16. Then, she managed not to get caught again. So, do you recommend parental control in those situations too?
And lemme get this straight: the rightwing nutters are mad because this pill goes against 'Parental control'?? What, so they WANT more teen pregnancy? Or what? Because Plan B comes in effect AFTER their abstinence methods HAVE ALREADY FAILED.
I think a 17 year old girl is old enough to decide whether or not she wishes to takes steps NOT to become pregnant. It's not as though they have to wait until they are 18 to suddenly develop common sense if something happens and they want to seek protection. However, I'd prefer someone of that age being pro-active and obaining birth control if she's having sexual activity, rather than having to rely on Plan B.
#10 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:38 PM EDTI never said at 18 they suddenly become capable of this type of decision.
I personally don't feel an 18 yr old is mature enough to make such a life changing decision as this. Many 18 yr olds are still seniors in HIGH SCHOOL. Peer pressure at this age is sooo strong and every one wants to "fit in".
What this comes down to is MONEY.
This pill is ONLY 89% effective. That means that 11% of these 17 yr old girls can become pregnant. So now you have girls who don't want to be pregnant stuck with a pregnancy that is unwanted and the next step could be abortion?
What is the risk factors to both the girl and the fetus?
I don't think a child of this age is old enough period. Yes, I will talk with my daughter about waiting and saving herself. Too much is at stake when you rush to grow up.
I personally don't feel an 18 yr old is mature enough to make such a life changing decision as this. Many 18 yr olds are still seniors in HIGH SCHOOL.
I always have to chuckle at people who talk about 17 and 18 year olds as though they were still small children who have no abilities and no backbone. I was out of the house on my own with a job at 17 1/2, and I did fine. But, maybe kids are different now, or they are being raised to be less responsible?
Verbal Barb gets it. We need more of her and less of the conservatives who were making all the rules!
Prochoice Mom - You don't get it. The state requires me to feed, clothe, shelter and keep a "child" under 18 from being truant from school - but yet I have not decision about whether or not a drug?? which is birth control is put in her body???? If I still have to sign for vaccination and medical treatment, then I still need to be consulted for this. If I can still go to jail because I keep my kid out of school, they have an accident or even skip school of their own volition, then YEAH - I get to say what they are handed OTC.
VERBALBARB - Yeah I was on my own paying for college at 17 almost 18 also but this is a different day. Thanks to all the LIBERAL agenda out there - there is real evil in the world that doesn't care who it hurts. Maybe you are right that the average kid has been raised with less responsibility - show me those kids and I can tell you that their parents are liberal and in to the culture of "me".
Why are 18year olds allowed to go to war, but are not responsible or mature enough to make any other decisions. People always have to argue about something. I wonder how many of these people have teenage kids, or remember at all what it was like to be one. Given a choice is not going to mean all 17 year olds are going to jump into bed. That is just plain silly and ignorant.
I guess if parents don't mind their daughters taking pills without them being aware, then they'll live with the consequences. Can't wait to see the lawsuits that will happen with the girl who doesn't buy the pill and take it when she should of, and just forgets for a few months, and then finally acknowledges that she's pregnant. Then what - hit every RITE AID and OD on the Plan B pill that each place sold her? What will the parents do then? Will they still have the open attitude that they display here? What happened to morals in this country? There was a time not too long ago when girls didn't want to be "those girls". Oh, I know, it's the sky high divorce rate that sends our teenage daughters looking for love and acceptance from a special man in their lives. And hey, if they can't get positive love and affirmation and be cherished by their dads, then they choose the horny teenage boy that doesn't know what love is. Trust me, a year from now we'll see lawsuts from the same parents that were so quick to applaud this pill so they don't have to be grandparents, and instead they'll be morning the loss of a daughter. Teach your kids respect for themselves!
Hey, as long as those same families that think it's ok to take the pill, don't come back and sue the FDA and drug makers for a problem. And, let's think about it, how is it really regulated if a girl is 1 month or 2 months pregnant? They say it won't work, but what if a girl went to every drug store in town and took 4 times the doseage to make sure she wouldn't stay pregnant? Oh, that's right, these kids are all responsible and know what they're doing and would only follow the manufacturers instructions. Hey, if they couldn't use a condom in the heat of the moment to save themselves from AIDS what make you think they are going to follow the manufacturer's instructions? And, why not have it available to all ages - why limit it to 17 year olds? If we listen to the media, all the kids are doing it and let's just let anyone buy it. Can you see that now? "I'll take the Hannah Montana trading cards, and a pack of Plan B please". Be ready for the consequences that this court decsion will lead to. Not a pretty sight.
@My2cents
So based on your logic, taking the plan b pill away as an option will suddenly cure teen pregnancy? Since its ONLY 89% effective it shouldnt be allowed? I'm sorry to break it to you but If your child chooses to engage in sexual activity, she is damn sure able to make the decision on how to deal with the consequences. And now since you decided to ban Plan B, that 11% of girls who can become pregnant has now become 100%. Giving them only 2 options, abortion or giving birth. I dont know about you, but I'd much rather my child took a pill and corrected a huge mistake, than to have to drive her down to the clinic to be rotor-rootered.
Some of you are right, we do undermine the thinking ability of 17 and 18 year olds... but since sexual stupidity, misinformation, and recklessness follow in all the way to adulthood, some adults also over-estimate their cognition. It is proven that the Prefrontal Cortex (the executive, stop-and-think portion of the brain) doesn't stop developing until around 18-25 with individual variance and that IS fact. Also, the impulse portion of the brain develops much sooner which does impede an adolescents ability to "think things fully through". Tie that with the personal fallacy (which many adults still suffer from) that makes them feel like "bad stuff never happens to me" and you've got a dangerous mix. Not saying all are incapable but we shouldn't assume they are ready.
And so you know.. most 18-26 year olds in college still seem to think the only thing you need to worry about with sex is pregnancy so I don't like the thought of giving them another reason to ditch the condom when they don't think straight to begin with.
Since the Dubya administration, it its infinite wisdom, decided to go with ignorant, foolhardy "abstinence only" sex ed, teenagers weren't taught about birth control. They were simply taught, "don't have sex until you're married." They weren't taught what to do in case they decided not to wait. As a result, you have teenagers who are making sexual decisions with faulty information to fall back on. Abstinence-only programs were put in place by politicians to advance a religious-right agenda of sexual control and repression. What do these kids do when, in the heat of the moment, they decide to go for it? They haven't been fully informed on condom use, they can't talk to their conservative parents about getting on the Pill, they certainly can't talk to anyone about sponges, diaphrams, or cervical caps, so what are they supposed to do? Teenagers are going to have sex. There's no stopping it, and it's not a new phenomenon. Why is it that in the 21st century, we still have 19th-century attitudes regarding sex?
If my daughter felt she couldn't talk to me about having had unprotected sex, for whatever reason, I would want to know that she could go to a drugstore and get Plan B to avoid getting pregnant. I would not be upset about losing "parental control," nor would I be upset about any religious anti-sexuality nonsense. It amazes me how many parents willingly sacrifice their daughters' futures and well-being on the altar of religious idealism.
chris from yucaipa
plan b can be seen as an abortion cus incase u didnt know conception starts 10 hours after sexual intercourse. a baby is already forming so u may not take her to get "roter-rootered" at the clinic but ur still making it ok to have an abortion
plan b can be seen as an abortion cus incase u didnt know conception starts 10 hours after sexual intercourse. a baby is already forming so u may not take her to get "roter-rootered" at the clinic but ur still making it ok to have an abortion
If there is no egg in the falopian tube, the sperm can hang around for 6 days waiting for one to drop. So, no, conception does not always start 10 hours after sexual intercourse. Then, it takes a few days for a fertilized egg to implant (and many never implant). So, it's not like taking Plan B is going to have a large chance of actually stopping a fertilized egg, becaue there isn't a large chance that there will be one to stop. Still, anyone who don't want to take that risk should be allowed to use a product approve by the FDA, regardless of what other people think.
Are you planning on continuing to use internet shorthand in your posts? They are very awkward to read.
my 2 cents-
Even though they may be in High school, that doesnt mean that ALL of them are irresponsible. So now your basically saying well if they are in High School, they cant make that kind of decision, but after graduation day they can? Some 30 year olds dont make good decisions. In or out of High school doesnt matter sorry
It should not be an over-the -counter drug. Let parents be responsible for their children. They are not legally considered adults. Young women have enough pressure already. Put this pill out there and you will only put that much more on them. If their parents want them to be on the pill they have access to it. Again, DO YOU AS A PARENT WANT THE DAMN GOVERNMENT MAKING A DECISION FOR YOU ABOUT WHAT YOUR CHILDREN CAN DO WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OR PERMISSION? DO YOU WANT YOUR GOVERNMENT TELLING YOUR DAUGHTERS THAT THEY THINK IT IS OKAY FOR THEM TO HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX BEFORE THEY ARE 18. Everything else...the reasons certain folks think that it is okay...is all secondary BS.
#11 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:41 PM EDTHey NoBrain - these daughters you're talking about are going to have sex whether you want them to or not... regardless of what the parent and/or government says. What, were you an angel when you were that age? Get a grip. Kids have sex, kids may get pregnant. I would hope my daughter will come to me and discuss this before she decides to do anything, but when I was a teen, there's no way in hell I would've mentioned anything to my parents, and there are many, many girls with parents like I had who would just fly off the handle rather than listen. They need an option.
Stop acting like abstinence is the answer, because everyone knows it's not. It won't help to talk to them when they're in the throes of the heat of being with their first love and hormones are raging. They don't think then, only after. It's all a part of being a teen, unless you think bringing back the chastity belt and requiring them are an option. If not, let it go and get into the real world.
Geez, even adults do that - don't think until after... it happens all the time. Give them an option for their mistake, or would you rather have another child in a home who is unwanted/beaten/abused or stuck in the social system we have? People like you don't seem to think about the good of the child in that respect, unless all of you are willing to adopt all these unwanted pregnancies, which I've yet to see. Picketing clinics and blowing them up seems to be as far as you'll go - help out a woman who doesn't want her pregnancy - and she's on her own. Yeah, that makes so much sense.
What about all the girls who don't have parents who care enough to talk to them about it or are so afraid to mention it that they just don't. Trust me there are plenty of girls way younger than 18 having sex I see it everyday. Or what about the ones who are using condoms and it breaks what then, If they want it bad enough they'll just get someone else to buy it for them.
Hey Lmasure,
And kids are going to drink without our consent and people are going to murder behind authorities backs, so let's help all of them out of the consequences of their actions! Seriously... that "they'll do it anyway" is the biggest cop-out bad answer I've ever heard.
And I don't think NoBrainer said anything about abstinence, it's about parental rights... parents should be involved to advice and counsel their kids if they are sexually active and btw... 16 and 17 are minors, and the age of consent means PARENTAL consent, not child.
And a wise man once said, "If you're too afraid to talk about it with SOMEone knowledgeable, maybe you shouldn't be doing it?"
I don't think we should be empowering kids to act first, think later. They should be talking to their parents. I don't care how scared they are, they are still minors and if they are having sex without their parents permission, they are having sex illegally.
hey nobrain, don't focus so much on what govt does, since they aren't taking control away from you as much as GIVING control to your daughter. And I think that is what scares most Red Stater/ "Family Values" / semi-christian nay sayers the most: They knew they screwed like bunnies at that age, so naturally, they think their kids will too. Lemme break it to you: Parenting is not about denying your kids the pleasures you once had.
Oh and: your side typically had no problems with the patriot act, which is HUGE govt control, how do you not see that. And what's so bad about abortion? Oh wait taking it away will constitute govt control of every womans womb in this country, but that's okay, right? that govt control you want, right? WRONG!
This whole idea of making teen sex illegal .... it's so sick.
Family Values .... what a joke. Red states have the most teen pregnancies AND abortions and divorce.
Studies show that teenagers use emergency contraception responsibly, and do not use it as a method of birth control.
With the teen birth rates in the US increasing, and ridiculously higher than other industrialized countries, we should be focusing on prevention. Maintaining arbitrary restrictions based on politics instead of science will do nothing to decrease the teen pregnancy rate. We should increase access and information about contraception and sexual health.
Also, lets not forget that this decision only increases over-the-counter access to 17 year olds. 18 year olds, thank goodness, already had access to emergency contraception over the counter. The decision did not affect 8 year olds. Scaring teenagers into abstinence will not work, it will only make them less likely to include their parents in their sexual decisions and more likely to forgo protection.
#12 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:44 PM EDTIn Illinois and some other states, a girl younger than 17 can get an abortion and birth control without parental consent. A good thing and I hope that other states follow suit. Plan B should be available over the counter to 17 year olds as it will prevent surgical abortions. Maybe if parents took their responsibilities seriously and had conversations about sex (yes, more than one conversation) with their kids, this would not be needed. Abstinance is nonsense. Time parents realize their kids are doing it. And with Prom season coming up, if Plan B were available, there would be none left.
#13 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:46 PM EDTReally Laura? My 18 year old daughter and 17 year old son are NOT "doing it." My kids are closely supervised and we have been very open about sexuality and sexual morality from a young age. They mostly hang out with other kids who share their values, and who also have involved parents. Our bottom line is, if you are not old enough to handle the responsibilities of children and the risk of exposing your self to STDs, you should not be having sex.
That being said, it is ridiculous that government or the over-active judiciary should be able to take away my right to parental supervision of my minor children. If my kid buys Plan B, I want to know about it so we can address the situation. My kids can't even take a Tylenol at school without parental permision. How ludicrous that they would be allowed to use birth control or seek any kind of medical treatment without parental knowledge.
Holly, I applaud you on your parenting skills. I dont feel like your children are the ones that would go for Plan B if needed without you knowing. They'd probably come to you if anything ever happens. That being said, there are a lot of 17 year olds that dont have as good of parents as you are, and those are the ones that would probably benefit from Plan B.
Amen. I am a Illinois resident, and I agree with you. Illinois has for as long as I can remember, not required parental consent for an abortion. Perhaps Plan B will reduce abortions, if that is the result, that is a good thing. I do not buy that teens will wait til marriage before having sex. That said, I believe Plan B should be given after some sort of counseling (regular birth control pills require a prescription) at some place like planned parenthood or a similar facility. Those places as I understand it, keep things confidential, so those teen girls that would have a serious issue with their parents, would be helped, and protected at the same time.
I don't think it has anything to do with the government taking decisions away from parents, or promoting promiscuity. If you have kids, speak to them about birth control before they are sexually active, and don't be judgemental about it. Let them know that birthcontrol is available, and talk with them about abstinence by all means also. But they should know that if they do have sex, that they don't have to be afraid to come to you or afraid to try to get birth control. If they are afraid to get birth control and they do have a pregnancy, they are most likely to go get an abortion without the parents knowing about that also.
#14 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:47 PM EDTWhere did the government say it's ok to have unprotected sex before they're 18?
I see no reason why birth control should be denied sexually active young women just because they are under the age of 18. It is evident that young women are having sex at that age and it appears that "parental control" hasn't done anything to diminish the teen pregnancy problem. So, I'd rather see a 17 year old be able to protect herself from pregnancy, since it seems obvious that "parental rights" aren't doing that for her.
#15 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:48 PM EDTIt's this crazy notion "sending a message". Giving them access to condoms is sending a message that teens can have unbridled sex. The notion that condoms automatically lead to more teen sex is as stupid as the notion that houses with roofs will cause it to rain more.
Just so people know, in nearly every state a teenage girl under the age of 18 can get Plan B and regular hormonal birth control without parental consent already. It merely takes more effort. All she needs to do is go to a sexual health clinic to get a presciption. This has nothing to do with parental rights, it is only about ease of access. Girls that would be going to a clinic to get the prescription often find that its closed on Sundays, or appointment only on Saturdays. So they are forced to wait, lowering the pill's effectiveness once they do get their hands on it. Being able to just go to the pharmacy counter and ask for Plan B will mean they can get it before its too late--therefore preventing unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
#16 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:58 PM EDTKeep the Bible out of government decision making. Free the people from the ignorant fanatics.
#17 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:58 PM EDTKeep the government out of parental responsibilities...
hey moron what do you think government laws are based on, bible teaching (10 commandments) and morals
It's not about the Bible being a part of the decision. It's about parents being parents instead of the government. The government has been taking away parents' ability to raise their children for years. Parents have a moral obligation to raise their children to be law-abiding, respectable adults. If the government held parents accountable for their children's actions while they're still children, maybe parents would take parenting a little more seriously. Instead, the government says parents don't even have a right to know what their children are doing, so a lot of parents just don't care anymore what their children do. This pill is just one more example of the government taking away parents' ability to be parents.
If parents would actually live up to their parental responsibilities, perhaps Plan B wouldn't be such an issue. Perhaps parents are confused as to what their parental responsibilities are. Here's a list of what NOT to do:
1. Don't teach children that sex is dirty and/or shameful.
2. Don't ignore your children or tell them they are bad when they start asking where babies come from.
3. Don't teach children that it's ok to tease and torment someone who is different from them.
4. Don't lie to a child. They will know you are lying and will be hesitant to ask you another question.
5. Do NOT try to be your child's friend. Your child has enough friends; you need to be a PARENT.
This pill doesn't give the government control, it gives the girls control. Let's face it, that is what you got your knickers all twisted about: you can't handle that a 17 year old girl is gonna run off with the bad boy and have a hot steamy, lustful, passionate sex. Like you used to have, but are too scared to have now.
The government IS TOO letting you be a parent. This pill is for WHEN YOU SCREWED UP as a parent and your daughter isn't responsible enough to use a condom. That lack of responsibility stems wholly from your lack of parenting skills, most likely because you lacked the guts to have decent talk about sex. And we don't mean threatening them with hell and brimstones either!!! Nor threatening to break their legs if they have sex, or any kinda physical violence. That's illegal, by the way.
Not in any age or era was it easy for teens to talk about sex with their parents, or vice versa. So, in case that still fails, the govt has a back up plan. It's called the morning after pill, isn't that nice?
Go VerbalBarb! Most parent are not involved in educating teens against unintended pregnancies and STD's. Hopefull by providing emergency contraception to 17 year olds will reduce the risk. Statistics prove abstinence does not work. Parents are not talking, schools can't talk. Someone has too. My daughter will have access and freedom. She is a responsible person and we talk! GYT!
#18 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:01 PM EDTI do not think that Plan B should be available over-the-counter to minors. Plan B is just another way for people to try and avoid the consequences of their actions. If a teen is irresponsible and has sex before marriage, then gets pregnant, she should accept the consequences by completing the pregnancy and putting the baby up for adoption. The teen does not need to be a single mother or punish her unborn baby for her mistakes (abortion). Too many people today think it's okay to do whatever they want without any consequences. People need to learn self control and practice abstinence before marriage and fidelity in marriage. Plan B should only be used for rape victims as they had no choice in having unprotected sex.
#19 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:04 PM EDTIn a perfect world, you would be absolutely correct. Unfortunately, we do not live in a perfect world. In Illinois, a teen need not have parental consent to get an abortion, or birth control, where they need consent for a tattoo, or piercing. Reproductive health is in a class by itself.
Yeah, I think it would be better if they didn't, because God knows it would be so much more effective to have underage girls getting back-alley abortions, or attempt to induce miscarriages by exerting excessive stress on themselves, intoxications, or lethal doses of illegal narcotics, or even having others punch or kick them in their stomachs.
And God forbid we should allow for contraception to be passed out freely in schools, because we all know how that just "increases" their sexual urges, and we certainly don't want them to have STD protected sex. If we just don't provide them contraception they just wont have sex right?
I mean kids wont attempt to sneak behind their parents. What kid has ever lied to their parents or attempted to sneak around behind them? Tsk tsk... Good children don't do that. It's against the Bible! At least that's what my neighbors dog told me. My neighbors dog tells me a lot. He's a really smart dog. Good old Rex. Rex and I are becoming fast friends.
.......
-pist
#20 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:14 PM EDTOf course! No one said it was ok for minors to have sex but they can't be stoped so every little bit helps to prevent any more unwanted pregnancies. Because the reality is that if they really didnt want it an abortion would be the next step. This is the lesser...
#21 - Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:26 PM EDTYou're in Easy Mode. If you prefer, you can use XHTML Mode instead. |
Log In | Register
yes!