Constant improvement is Toyota's Moto and this is the proof.
Why does everything always have to be "bigger"? Is it to accomodate the super-sized Americans who are becoming morbidly obese?
Maybe if they walked more instead of driving everywhere they would tak up less space.
The primary complaint was that the car did not accelerate. So they put a slightly bigger engine in there that would not have to strain so badly. And it gets better mileage. Did you even read the article?
I think the Prius has evolved over time frames; to a much better model then the Insight which Honda is all Named Hyped -case in point go to a dealership and there you always fine customers.... one buys a honda everyone wants one, followers not leaders... Having a Toyota camry Le 93 my first car I can say to you- one thing "just can not beat them":...
As for Hybrids they are economical to a point, still far underpowered for passing - but lets face it youll push the gas pettle down when an SUV is behind you - no savings , unless you change lanes - my best advice go clean diesel VW Jetta; claims almost 60mpg and the torque and engine moves without worries of a 6cyl or 8 cyl behind your back... what is most important gas mileage or safety? Id take safety over mileage, rest assured that the Jetta TDI will move you providing excellent gas mileage, high torque, safety, solid build.
The Prius is always evolving, and for some its just a statement of "HMMM if the movie stars,drive one ill buy one as well" oh and it is good for "green" I have to respect ones wishes on that as for me - well taking the train, walking, biking and change of lifestyle will have a greater impact on the green cause. It bottoms down to monkey sees,monkey does be a smart consumer get a better car and change the lifestyle.
I don't ever "push it down" when an SUV is behind me. Same with a Kenworth. I drive about the speed limit 5 mpg and that's it.
Can you say ugly! Why they can not make a good looking hybrid or electric car I will never know...
i second that on the looks of these two but i think the fusion looks way better.
I'm with Michael on this. First thing I think when I see this car is ugh, it's hideous. The Honda Insight is a frightful sight as well. Actually the Insight looks like a copy of the Prius. Now the Ford Fusion looks pretty nice.
Being a guy my focus isn't usually on looks and pretty colors so it's gotta be pretty ugly to get me to eliminate it.
my VW diesel TDI Jetta gets 48 MPG
AND is NOT a hybrid
If I drove 60 MPH on the freeway with no A/C, I'd get 55 MPG
That's the ideal condition for diesel. Prius can match that with the good old 87 Octane gas. How many MPG do you get in the city? How about during winter or summer with A/C on?
A full hybrid like 2010 Prius is engineered to give the most MPG in those extreme conditions as well. Look up Exhaust Heat Recovery and Electirc A/C.
Shutting off the gas engine and regen braking are so last gen hybrid tech. The new gen tech recovers heat from the exhaust during winter and use solar panel to cool the cabin in the summer.
with A/C in the city 47 MPG
a new test of the TDI diesel got a super high MPG...have to search for it
maybe on VW site
I am not saying I don't trust you but you are getting 62% better than EPA 29 City / 40 Highway.
The A/C on a Prius is not connected at all to the drivetrain like some other vehicles and is electric operated. When on the highway there is not power loss or loss in fuel economy.
I had a 2005 Prius which was an excellent car, no nonsense, just good performance and good value for the money spent on fuel and maintenence. My son took it over since I was waiting on the new model. My only complaints were the pale colors used for the interiors which tend to show dirt requiring frequent upholstry cleaning, the lack of a vertical seat adjustment, and the lack of tinted windows. All these features have been fixed on more recent models. I look forward to trying the new model and hope they offer the "touring package" on the 2010 as they have on the 2009 which would be the only options I really would like. The standard equipment on my 2005 was very adequate, my only option was the extra air bags around the interior.
Not impressed - Ford Fusion Hybrid safer and more luxurious.....
I agree. Actually, I am impressed with the new Prius, and I think the new Honda Insight is also a very good hybrid at a lower price. However, in real-life driving on the streets of Los Angeles, several test drivers from national automotive magazines and newspapers (including daily papers from L.A. and Seattle) got between 46 and 52 mpg in mixed driving -- that's a combination of city and highway, like most of us do. And as you say, the Fusion is safer and has a better ride. It also comfortably seats five people with a real trunk. Lastly, purchasing a vehicle from a U.S. manufacturer now is more likely to help my neighbors in places like Ohio, Michigan, and Louisiana, even though the vehicle is assembled in Mexico.
the 2010 prius has more interior space and where are you getting your crash test results? the 2010 hasn't even received it's crash test ratings. oh, and it has toyota's old hybrid technology in it. detroit, as usual, 3 steps behind....
the reviewer listed one of the "cons" as the car makes a political statement. to address the so called political statement; conservation is not a political statement, it is stewardship. Until this exceptionally simple concept is embraced the world will continue to suffer the ravages of polluting, greed driven corporations and the gasbag buffons who shill and cheerlead for them. the prius has set the standard for cars to come, this being their 4th, yes 4th generation of the car, while Honda's insight isn't even a full hybrid and typical to Honda is the model of a truly cheap plastic interior and harsh ride . Ford has Toyota's last generation of hybrid engines in them, and the Chevy Volt still exists only on paper along with all the other so-called plug-ins. so that my friends, is the real deal.......
The 2010 Pruis is a more refined vehicle than the NEW Honda Insight. What will be interesting is when an automotive magazine decides to compare the new Insight against the older Insight! This new Insight would probably compare well againt the 1st generation Prius but not this new one. I don't think Honda takes hybrid technology seriously. I think they just want to have something "out there". They've introduced and dropped so many hybrid models I'd be afraid to buy this new Insight. They might stop making it two years from now. "Oh you need a part, well we don't make that model anymore, but I may be able to SPECIAL ORDER $$ that part for you!
I'm afraid to comment on the newest model since my experience with the current model was so-so. I had an '09 Prius rental from Hertz in April & was pleased to know I would be driving my first hybrid. The pro: great gas milage (averaged 45 miles per g.) & handling was super. The cons: what's with the beeping while in reverse? Very annoying....I'm not driving a bus! Also the gear shift "knob" on the dash was convenient, but I wasn't fond of it. There's only 1 gear in drive, no 2nd or 3rd, so driving around Sedona was different. The cruise did not maintain speed on a downhill, but increased it. Not good.....Overall, for me, I wouldn't buy one. I'm now driving my 7th Honda & would consider the Insight for sure.
You can turn off the reverse beep. It is a safety feature because Prius does not shook the car when put in reverse because it never need to change gears. It simply spin the electric motor backward.
Prius only has one gear and it is always in top gear. Since it has two power sources, it shift between gas and electric -- getting away with the need to shift gears as in single power source cars (non-hybrids). This is why you don't see 3nd or 3rd gears. Simple and elegant design.
I wouldn't admit publicly that I had BEEN THRU 7 Honda's . I'm still on my first Prius.
Wow 7 Hondas? Don't forget the "B" seting on the drive control lever.
The "B" mode is the engine / compression braking. Prius slows down the car by pumping air in and out of cylinders. Trains have been using this for 100 years.
i own two priuses, an 05 and an 07. great cars. started to trade the 05 on a new ford fusion hybrid. just couldnt do it because the fusion is still a ford. i have owned eight fords and they are still junk. ill stay with the prius!
I like it but I prefer a Ford Fusion. I think the Prius is for women. I'd rather have a midsize hybrid. This car screams i'm a girl or i'm gay. Nice car though.
your a girl with the name ruben. youd better look down to see if you are really a girl...lmao.
Where in the world did you come up with that, lol. I said the prius is for women I just can't see a man driving one.
So your saying you want a car that screams your a hetero and want the world to know you have issues with women and it seems gay males.
ok...
EPA Definition of Mid-size car: 110 - 119 cu.ft.
2010 Prius: 115.3 cu.ft.
2010 Fusion hybrid: 111.6 cu.ft.
Fusion hybrid barely made it to the mid-size but the Prius is the larger size in the range.
Well pointed out!
Jezz You should look at majority of Prius drivers... Men... Just ones who don't have insecurity issues..
lol, all i'm saying is that this car looks like it was designed for women. Yes, everytime I see a guy driving one I think to myself, he's probably running an errand in his wifes car or his boyfriend.
Toyota Prius, Honda Insight, Nissan Altima Hybrid, and the Ford Fusion Hybrid. ALL FABULOUS. All provide high milage and LOW EMMISIONS.
What is wrong with all these auto magazine editors? Milage is NOT the only important benefit of hybrids. These auto magazine writers NEVER mention how important LOW EMMISION vehicles are in the 21st century. Is there any good reason to be driving a (new) family car or daily driver in the 21st century that is not rated either PZEV or ULEV (partial ZERO emmision vehicle or ultra low emmision vehicle)??? WHO is buying a new Hummer (or similar) today???
Emissions!
I lived in California back in 1995. All those laws about emissions and
I saw more smoking cars than I'd ever EVER seen.
I saw more smoking cars than I'd ever EVER seen.
Then there was that approx $400 charge to get my car into California.
What a rip!
I get 52 US MPG average mixed driving during the warm months with no special driving and I DO NOT have a BMW or VW Diesel.
Toyota continues to bring its "A" game and I view it as inspiring/motivating other manufacturers to do the same. In the process meaningful steps are being taken to address energy consumption and pollution issues, and while the process of weaning this world off of its dependence on oil and its fondness for "big" excessive vehicles is a slow one, some movement in the right direction is happening. And, if Ford, Honda, or some other manufacturer builds a better mousetrap, consumers will consider that when making their choices. But options like those presented by Toyota need to be there to act as catalysts, and Toyota's decision to be the front runner in hybrid technology years ago is still paying off for the company today.
The test drive on the new Prius rated higher mpg than sticker, and we have found that be true with our '07 Camry hybrid. Instead of the 34 mpg on the '09 sticker, we routinely get in the high 30's and low to mid 40's on miles driven in rush hour and around town. At highway cruising speeds (75 - 80, or even 85) we consistently get 38 to 40 mpg. In one Chicago to St. Louis drive in which concerted effort was made to maximize mpg (which included driving nearer the 55 in urban areas and the speed limit in rural areas, and some of the milder techniques used by hypermilers) we achieved 48 mpg, which would result in a 700 mile range on a full tank (14.8 gallon - beating the new Fusion hybrid's claim for being able to do the same, but with a 17.5 gallon tank). The Camry is not a rocket, but it isn't a slouch either and we have no issues merging, or passing at better than highway speeds.
you people can have these eyesores, you will never get your extra dollars paid for these back. and when you add in repairs it will be even worse. yes you are saving a few gallons of gas, but at what price. until there is an electric car that can compete, no thanks.
When they develop a hybrid that accelerates faster than a golf cart and doesn't look like something a first year grad student drives, I'll be the first person in line to buy one. I'm not being sarcastic, I really would.
Until then, I'm more than happy with the 13mpg I'm getting from my 370Z.
We have an '05 and we have loved it for almost 4 years. We average about 50-53 in the city and about 45-48 on the road. We have had ZERO issues with this car. We will buy a 2010 or 11 when we go on the road in 2011(In a trailer behind an RV). We are looking forward to the new one(or perhaps a hybrid version of the RAV4).
I have a 2008 Prius, and I love it. However, I'm already getting 50 mpg or more in the city and about 50 on the highway. I haven't had the first problem with my car, and I have had it for over a year. I don't see any problem with the acceleration. Everyone I have talked to has mentioned how nice the body style is - futuristic. I think "Don" is a bit of a pessimist. I bought the car to help the environment first, not because it gets 50 mpg. One thing I don't like is the lower gas mileage in really cold weather, but I guess that cannot be helped.
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Great car,build quality is fantastic,ride improved -makes going greener pleasurable.