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12.2%
Yes, the economy is definitely turning around.
257 votes
30.4%
Yes, I am cautiously optimistic.
639 votes
15.7%
No, it’s too early to say.
329 votes
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No, the outlook is still bleak.
862 votes
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Not sure.
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Yes, I am cautiously optimistic.

We're starting to see signs of stabilization, maybe not outright recovery, but at least things aren't getting worse.

{"commentId":6955670,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"MozeeToby"}
  • 3 votes
 - 11:52 am EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
No, the outlook is still bleak.

The economy will stay in trouble until there is actual job growth. Anything else is just empty pep talk.

{"commentId":6955677,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"pfb1051"}
  • 4 votes
 - 11:52 am EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
No, the outlook is still bleak.

When President Obama says that it is going to get worse, then how can anyone be optimistic? He isn't making matters any easier.

{"commentId":6955844,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"lcolon45"}
  • 4 votes
 - 11:59 am EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
Yes, I am cautiously optimistic.

Our firm has picked up several new design projects, only one directly from stimulus funds. We are feeling better.

{"commentId":6956355,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"hank-1"}
  • 2 votes
 - 12:26 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
Yes, the economy is definitely turning around.

Even the pessimistic reporting can't stop it. The American capitalists will always rebound if the government will leave us alone.

{"commentId":6956364,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"BUDGE"}
  • 1 vote
 - 12:26 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
No, the outlook is still bleak.

Credit card debt, com. real estate collapse, Wall St's inflated sense of self... foreclosures restarting... we're not out by a long shot!

{"commentId":6956707,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"jenncoolidge"}
  • 4 votes
 - 12:44 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
Not sure.

There was never a problem here to begin with. All this doom and gloom affected big cities but left us out here in the boonies alone.

{"commentId":6956766,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"em3xdad"}
     - 12:46 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    No, the outlook is still bleak.

    How much more junk do we need? teh economy of the past few years is based on an endless buying that can't continue. We are in for a reset.

    {"commentId":6957099,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"bleake"}
    • 3 votes
     - mxracer
     - 1:03 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    Yes, I am cautiously optimistic.

    The mall was packed last weekend, so people seem to be out spending money. This is definitely a plus.

    {"commentId":6957180,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"spring16"}
    • 2 votes
     - 1:07 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    Yes, I am cautiously optimistic.

    I believe we have the right President at the right time to pull us through this deep recession.

    {"commentId":6957587,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"carl48-morris"}
    • 4 votes
     - CM48
     - 1:26 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    Yes, I am cautiously optimistic.

    I have a construction equipment rental business in southern Ca. In the last month we have felt recent positive signs. However, negative too

    {"commentId":6957600,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"john-149"}
    • 3 votes
     - 1:27 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    Yes, the economy is definitely turning around.

    Every metric shows improvement, and confidence is way up. Still a long way to go, but there is no doubt that the economy is improving.

    {"commentId":6957693,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"pjthornton"}
    • 2 votes
     - 1:31 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    No, the outlook is still bleak.

    Banks need 37 Billion, GM lost 6 Billion, Consumer spending shrank 3 times what analysts expected, Job losses were huge despite govmt hirin

    {"commentId":6957836,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"pj98gt"}
    • 3 votes
     - pjam
     - 1:38 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    No, the outlook is still bleak.

    There is no light at the end of the tunnel because we're going to spend trillions of dollars over the next few years of taxpayer dollars.

    {"commentId":6957854,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"benlugo"}
    • 2 votes
     - 1:39 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    Yes, I am cautiously optimistic.

    Other than high gas prices last year this economy hasn't affected me one bit. I think their are many others unaffected too.

    {"commentId":6958046,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"vfhelt"}
    • 1 vote
     - usa1967
     - 1:48 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    Yes, I am cautiously optimistic.

    only because obama etal. are pragmatic and have brainpower, instead of the idiotic ideologues of the g.o.p.

    {"commentId":6958353,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"ttyskiewicz"}
    • 2 votes
     - 2:02 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    No, the outlook is still bleak.

    NO WAY!!!!
    It's going to be a years before this is over

    {"commentId":6958393,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"jgb2010"}
    • 1 vote
     - 2:04 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
    No, the outlook is still bleak.

    The government hasn't done enough to keep the lenders from pulling the same crap again. Oil speculation is already starting again. Round 2?

    {"commentId":6959135,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"lbontrager"}
       - LB-CO
       - 2:43 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
      Not sure.

      who knows? the media ran it into the ground to help obama get elected, so they just have to report clear skies and sunshine to help him now

      {"commentId":6959227,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"colsoh"}
         - 2:47 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
        No, the outlook is still bleak.

        NO, NOTHING HAS CHANGED & THE CROOKS AT AIG ROBBED THE TAX PAYERS FOR OVER 400 MILLION FOR BONUSES!

        {"commentId":6959963,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"moore-ld"}
           - l moore
           - 3:21 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
          No, it’s too early to say.

          what has really changed, the government stuffed the financial industry with cash, they are on life support compliments of taxpayers

          {"commentId":6960013,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"enigmatico"}
             - 3:23 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
            Yes, I am cautiously optimistic.

            I work in financial services - and we took our lumps in Q4 2008 and Q1 2009. Stimulus and TARP programs are easing things - albeit slowly.

            {"commentId":6960032,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"droessler"}
               - Dorfy
               - 3:24 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
              No, the outlook is still bleak.

              Outlook looks great for Wall Street. But I live on Main Street. Only thing uptick in stocks means to me right now is higher gas prices.

              {"commentId":6960382,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"jasmineisland"}
                 - 3:40 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
                Yes, the economy is definitely turning around.

                When all the numbers come in (a year from now) the recession ended March 09

                {"commentId":6961178,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"michael-tully"}
                   - 4:18 pm EDT on Fri May 8, 2009
                  Yes, the economy is definitely turning around.

                  My nest egg is re-inflating; recovered more than half the losses since 1/20/09. Will fully recover when 43 & VP are waterboarded & jailed.

                  {"commentId":6967537,"threadId":"573811","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"Mmro"}
                     - 12:00 am EDT on Sat May 9, 2009
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                    {"commentId":6955789,"authorDomain":"pfb1051"}

                    I don't how many times this has to be said.. The jobs need to come back to the US!!

                    Outsourcing has killed our economy. American jobs are the only thing that will put our economy on a solid foundation.

                    {"commentId":6955789,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"pfb1051"}
                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#1 - Fri May 8, 2009 11:57 AM EDT
                    {"commentId":6958194,"authorDomain":"marti"}

                    I am pretty much in agreement. It is difficult to see where the recovery wiill come from if employment doesn't increase. Employment cannot increase unless jobs that have been off-shored are returned to this country.

                    I was dismayed to read that General Motors will make a higher percentage of it's cars in foreign countries. They took a lot of taxpayer money. If they are not going to use it to create American jobs, why don't we just let them sink?

                    {"commentId":6958194,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"marti"}
                    • 4 votes
                    #1.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:55 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":6958229,"authorDomain":"marti"}

                    I am pretty much in agreement. It is difficult to see where the recovery wiill come from if employment doesn't increase. Employment cannot increase unless jobs that have been off-shored are returned to this country.

                    I was dismayed to read that General Motors will make a higher percentage of it's cars in foreign countries. They took a lot of taxpayer money. If they are not going to use it to create American jobs, why don't we just let them sink?

                    {"commentId":6958229,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"marti"}
                      #1.2 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:57 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":6960213,"authorDomain":"droessler"}

                      I agree. But this is the responsibility of the voter and the consumer.

                      You can't go to WalMart every Saturday and load up on Indonesian clothing, Korean tools and Japanese electronics. We must buy American products, and insist on our stores carrying a broad selection of goods made here.

                      The people complaining about losing their jobs are the ones buying all for foreign consumer goods. 20-30% of the people complaining about jobs lost vote for Republican candidates and the party that is doing nothing to keep jobs here. You are shooting yourself in the foot.

                      Stop voting for a party that is doing you no favors, stop buying the products that ensure companies move overseas. Inform yourselves, and change what you do to match your own interests.

                      {"commentId":6960213,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"droessler"}
                      • 2 votes
                      #1.3 - Fri May 8, 2009 3:31 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":6992812,"authorDomain":"brim-smith"}

                      I completely agree with this statement. But also lets not forget that work visas should be greatly reduced so that those jobs could be filled by those of us that actually live here.

                      {"commentId":6992812,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"brim-smith"}
                        #1.4 - Mon May 11, 2009 1:12 AM EDT
                        {"commentId":8266454,"authorDomain":"louisbullock"}

                        The "Crap and Tax" bill will send even more jobs overseas do get out from under it. No wonder no other country signed on to this LOAD!

                        {"commentId":8266454,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"louisbullock"}
                          #1.5 - Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:00 PM EDT
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                          {"commentId":6955977,"authorDomain":"spurman"}

                          The big economy scare was mostly orchestrated by the media to get their man elected. No different than the swine flu,pig flu,mexican flu ,N1H1 or what ever their calling it today was blown out of proportion for whatever reason they had. Anyone who believes anything the media has to say must be very very naive.

                          Make no mistake I'm not a Republican,But I do remember the President when running for office saying he was going to put America back to work. I have seen no evidence of them trying to bring jobs back to the country or sending illegals back home that are taking our jobs.

                          {"commentId":6955977,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"spurman"}
                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#2 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:05 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":6957126,"authorDomain":"debdebsemail"}

                          Mexican flu......really? That is so sad! I would rather them blow it out of proportion then tell us nothing. Better safe then sorry.

                          As for the evidence of jobs coming back. The stimulus money is still being distributed to states. It has only been a few months. What did you expect it the next day. Mr. Instant Gratification? Did it happen over night? NO....it will take time.

                          {"commentId":6957126,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"debdebsemail"}
                          • 4 votes
                          #2.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:04 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":6959205,"authorDomain":"TR966"}

                          Why is it that only R.Hill can see the Truth. The problems with the economy were orchestrated, swine flu propaganda, media CONspiracy to you naive that listen to the media. They are all in it together.

                          http://zapatopi.net/afdb/build.html

                          {"commentId":6959205,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"TR966"}
                          • 1 vote
                          #2.2 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:46 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":6960786,"authorDomain":"droessler"}

                          RHill and TR must be enjoying the weekend early.

                          The economic situation became a critical situation under BUSH. The jobs started to vaporize before Bush left office. The billions started to flow to the collapsing financial institutions in October - before Obama was elected. Believe me - Bush looked the other way trying to pretend all was still OK until it became unavoidable. It ruined Bush's delightful economic fantasy. Once the collapse of Lehmann Brothers occurred and CitiCorp wrote off billions, a deep recession with its accompanying unemployment was in full swing and there was no way of stopping it.

                          Illegals are not taking jobs most Americans would do. My father was a farmer, and he never could get anyone but the Mexicans (and he hired legal workers) to work as hard as they did in the fields. Also - the illegals would not be working if citizens were not employing them. If you have a problem with illegals - maybe you ought to ask the Americans employing them to stop. It's just like the drug war in Mexico - if Americans did not sell so many guns in Mexico and buy so many drugs, Mexico would likely have little problem with drug "wars" on our border.

                          This economic mess was in no way set up by the left. The last thing Obama or any new president would want is this type of chaos. During most of his campaign the economy looked weak but OK, so he thought the challenges regarding unemployment were like those faced by past presidents. The recession has made his job very difficult, especially listening to conspiracy baloney like what you just said. He will get the economy back and in about 18 months, the job picture will be improved.

                          It took more than 100 days to get the jobs back after the Great Depression - so I don't think Obama is dragging his feet.

                          It would be great if we could stick to facts. Try it.

                          {"commentId":6960786,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"droessler"}
                          • 2 votes
                          #2.3 - Fri May 8, 2009 3:59 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":6961045,"authorDomain":"crouchcc"}

                          But, but Dorfy!!! Don't you know that Clinton and the whole Freddie/Fannie fiasco created this mess and now Obama is spending all this money, it's all the Democrats' faults!!!.....let's just completely disregard the last 8 years!!!

                          I can't believe Obama would spend all this money on infrastructure and providing jobs to American people rather than spending it on no-bid contracts in Iraq, that's unheard of!!!

                          {"commentId":6961045,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"crouchcc"}
                          • 1 vote
                          #2.4 - Fri May 8, 2009 4:11 PM EDT
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                          {"commentId":6955987,"authorDomain":"b-hummell"}

                          Somewhat optimistic although economy is not turning around yet. It is only worsening more slowly. Latest jobs numbers a bit misleading as one time temporary Federal Gov't  hiring reduced layoffs from 631,000 down to less than 600,000. Biggest concern is that although new unemployment rate is 8.9% (until revised), "underemployment" rate is 1 of every 6 workers. The keys for turnaround will be 1. Consumers feel confident to spend and 2. Employers hire again and don't try to keep expenses low by  squeezing their remaining employees to be more "efficient", thereby eliminating need to rehire. Consumers can spend which will help, but in long run, Employers must rehire in order to reduce unemployment /underemployment level or there cannot be a full recovery. Stock Market has risen rapidly in anticipation of an economic recovery later this year but may be too optimistic considering we're only slowing the bleeding, not in a true recovery phrase.

                          {"commentId":6955987,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"b-hummell"}
                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#3 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:06 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":6956003,"authorDomain":"boatjouster"}

                          Been as dismal as it gets (I hope) here in Sarasota Fl, it's like someone flipped a switch 3 weeks ago and what was bad went to worse. Gas prices climbed 22 cents a gallon in the same time period, and who knows why. I have given up hope on being able to stay in my house now and going to send some company cars to voluntary re-po..Im screwed i know now and it's not going to get better.. It seems everything the Gov did and are doing is to help the ones that caused this mess and despite the big promises it alway's ends up back to no help for the ones that actually can help the economy.. how did bailing out the bank's and the UAW help anyone. It just wasted a lot of money and the end result is going to be the same. More BS and corruption........

                          {"commentId":6956003,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"boatjouster"}
                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#4 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:07 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":6956120,"authorDomain":"paint4us"}

                          Hey folks, listen up. I just got a job with the Federal Government. They are hiring, big time.. . Great pay, short hours, 30 paid vaction year, 15 days paid sick leave year and a really fantastic pension that pay 80% salary at age 55. Cannot beat that. Keep your tax dollars comming.

                          {"commentId":6956120,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"paint4us"}
                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#5 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:14 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":6956238,"authorDomain":"boatjouster"}

                          Hey Katlin, what type of job and where do you apply, Im sick of being self employed at this point.

                          {"commentId":6956238,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"boatjouster"}
                            #5.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:20 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":6956300,"authorDomain":"lcolon45"}

                            Yeah, and they'll start cutting back because they don't have any money and be back to square one within a year or two.

                            {"commentId":6956300,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"lcolon45"}
                              #5.2 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:23 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":6958134,"authorDomain":"vfhelt"}

                              Does anyone really believe her??

                              {"commentId":6958134,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"vfhelt"}
                              • 3 votes
                              #5.3 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:52 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":6960893,"authorDomain":"droessler"}

                              I know three people who are now working on stimulus jobs. I am also hiring a person to work for me here.

                              People have to be willing to move, and be willing to change what they do. Jobs are still there in some parts of the country - just not "dream jobs".

                              I believe her.

                              {"commentId":6960893,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"droessler"}
                                #5.4 - Fri May 8, 2009 4:04 PM EDT
                                {"commentId":6992834,"authorDomain":"brim-smith"}

                                Yes the federal government is hiring checkout usajob.gov.

                                {"commentId":6992834,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"brim-smith"}
                                  #5.5 - Mon May 11, 2009 1:14 AM EDT
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                                  {"commentId":6956261,"authorDomain":"lcolon45"}

                                  "President Barack Obama acknowledged some of the green shoots Friday, while at the same time warning Americans to "expect further job losses in the months to come."

                                  Well, no kidding! I'm out there trying to find work to support my family, and the high almighty Barak Obama keeps bringing us down more with words of how it is hopeless things are. Why did 52% of Americans really vote for this kind of crap?

                                  This is a person, as president, who has no clue as to how the real world works. And we have to pay the price for his ignorance. Obama owns this economy, that's a fact. He and his administration are hostile to business since day one as they believe it is up to government to get the economy on track.

                                  Government has never created anything of substance that has been for the better. 'The New Deal', and 'The Great Society' are two of many that seems to be what is touted as great liberal accomplishments to society. Even though they haven't helped nor accomplished what they were supposed to do, the libs say that they should be judged only on their intentions, not their results. I say get real. It cost us a lot of money, grief, resentment and discourse that is worth saying 'These concepts suck.'

                                  There's enough proof that governemnt can't do a damn thing right compared to the private sector. Yes, the private sector can screw things up too, but the difference is that in the private sector most will be held accountable. Who holds government accountable to their screw ups?

                                  What's the difference between a Hoover and the political parties? With a Hoover, it is easy to remove dirtbags. They also hinder quality performance when you keep them in. We have enough dirtbags in DC hindering the performance of this country and us citizens. We're going to experience more problems with the 'lifers' in DC until they are ousted and sent packing away from the world that they want to stay in.

                                  {"commentId":6956261,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"lcolon45"}
                                  • 5 votes
                                  Reply#6 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:21 PM EDT
                                  {"commentId":6956379,"authorDomain":"sleepinriva"}

                                  Why are we giving billions to a company (GM) who is outsourcing their jobs???!!!! This has got to stop. When has it become so bad to give workers a decent living wage? I want to start having the CEO jobs and VP jobs outsourced to other countries. I just bet there are some good managers in India who would love their jobs. We do not make anything any more. We are just one big consuming populace that supports the rest of the world's economies.

                                  How can you encourage people who have been laid off to be re-trained in another job skill when that job skill will probably be shipped overseas in the future if the company owners can make a buck.

                                  {"commentId":6956379,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"sleepinriva"}
                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#7 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:26 PM EDT
                                  {"commentId":6956941,"authorDomain":"b-hummell"}

                                  Part 2

                                  Happy that Katlin & others got the Federal job, even if is temporary for a year. Any job is better than no job. Hope her's becomes permanent.

                                  Anyone notice that oil prices are rising and so are gas prices.  Any recovery or even perceived recovery will be accompanied by Inflation. Anyone still unemployed will suffer additional burden of higher expenses. Even those employed will be squeezed by inflation. Current interest rates are so low that interest bearing accounts/CD's pay little. Millions of seniors have had income reduced as they depend on interest income more than younger persons. Stocks are the only "game in town" for a current decent return and not by accident.  For the poor, little benefit from economic recovery other than hope for finding a job.. Middle class will get some gains in 401k's and and probably house value stabilizes.  The wealthy have more stocks and larger home investments and will benefit the most, as always. Of course, businesses will benefit at first because of more consumer spending (increased sales) with increased profits until they have no choice but to rehire (additional expenses).

                                  Let's hope this time when Recovery starts, the trickle down theory works. As businesses, benefit, some benefit trickles down to you and me. Then again, what got us into this financial crises was wealthy elitist CEO's/Investors who believed in greed, not any trickle down effect. Will it be different?

                                   

                                  {"commentId":6956941,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"b-hummell"}
                                    Reply#8 - Fri May 8, 2009 12:55 PM EDT
                                    {"commentId":6978844,"authorDomain":"Stu-4803409"}
                                    Let's hope this time when Recovery starts, the trickle down theory works

                                    Definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results!

                                    {"commentId":6978844,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"Stu-4803409"}
                                    • 1 vote
                                    #8.1 - Sat May 9, 2009 9:43 PM EDT
                                    {"commentId":6992840,"authorDomain":"brim-smith"}

                                    I doudt that the trickle down theory will work.

                                    {"commentId":6992840,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"brim-smith"}
                                      #8.2 - Mon May 11, 2009 1:16 AM EDT
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                                      {"commentId":6957177,"authorDomain":"em3xdad"}

                                      Quit Whining. How long did you people really think it was going to take before your spend now, pay later, lifestyles caught up with you??? Just because you make $xx,xxx.00 doesn't mean that you can spend 2x that amount, no matter what the banks tell you. If people had used their brains instead of payment calculator we wouldn't be where we are.

                                      I invested soundly in stocks that had done well for a number of years and didn't diversify 20 times. yes, I lost money when things went to he!!, but only about 10%. If you try to make money quick, you tend to lose it just as fast..

                                      "I'll buy a house way beyond my means and sell it later at a profit" was the battle cry of the first half of this decade. Let's see you sell it now. I bought a decent house at a decent price and have not lost a penny in value, but then again, my intention wasn't to "flip" the house either.

                                      I really try to find sympathy for people who lost money in this mess, whether it be from stock losses of getting ripped off by Madoff but I just can't seem to muster any. Sort of like I can't find any sympathy for people who choose to live in cities that are below sea level, are prone to hurricanes, or earthquakes and wildfires. You knew the risks but chose to accept them.

                                      SUCKERS

                                      {"commentId":6957177,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"em3xdad"}
                                      • 2 votes
                                      Reply#9 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:07 PM EDT
                                      {"commentId":6959319,"authorDomain":"franklintherocker"}

                                      Well said. People tend to get exactly what they deserve.

                                      {"commentId":6959319,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"franklintherocker"}
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                                      #9.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:51 PM EDT
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                                      {"commentId":6957181,"authorDomain":"impalarob"}

                                      The problem is nothing is made in America any more, not even the box its shipped in.

                                      {"commentId":6957181,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"impalarob"}
                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#10 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:07 PM EDT
                                      {"commentId":6957244,"authorDomain":"impalarob"}

                                      The problem is nothing is made in America any more, not even the shipping container.

                                      {"commentId":6957244,"threadId":"573803","contentId":"2791916","authorDomain":"impalarob"}
                                      • 3 votes
                                      Reply#11 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:10 PM EDT
                                      {"commentId":6957388,"authorDomain":"connie-gallucci"}

                                      When is everyone going to figure out the BANKS are creating the mess - on the one hand they are taking "bailout money" out the wazoo, and on the other they are raising interest rates on their credit cards to all time highs; dropping card limits, and on the poor people who have "fixed" card rates - they are quadrupling the payment, they say they only guarantee the rate not the monthly payment - so your payment goes from $75 a month to $1200 a month - unless of course you allow them to "adjust" your interest rate - that used to be called Blackmail, but now it's standard practice. They are literally driving people into bankruptcy, with a smile on their faces and a fistfull of bailout money! Tell me - who is going to stop these people - oh yes the government is going to put laws in place to protect the consumer - IN JUNE OF 2010 - what about us poor people who are getting shafted this week, this month, this year. And if you think it won't happen to you - you are wrong! My credit rating "was" 745 out of 800 - I have never been late a payment, never went over my limits, nothing - when my card interest jumped from 3.99 to 15.99 I called the company and asked them why - the response - "because we can"!!!! My home that I built 3 years ago, is now worth $50,000 less than the day I closed on it. My household income has gone from over $90,000 a year to less than $45,000 a year. The "unemployment is down"? - heck yes it is, most of the people laid off over a year ago, 2 years ago, and longer are no longer eligible for Unemployment of course the numbers are down - but they aren't down because people are finding jobs! Yep things are really looking great, Thanks Washington - great job! so instead of letting the people who created his fiasco fall on their butts, you are kicking us and forcing us fall on ours!

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                                      Reply#12 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:16 PM EDT
                                      {"commentId":6961166,"authorDomain":"droessler"}

                                      Maybe you bought more house than you could afford? Maybe lots of you did....and maybe that's why the real estate market dropped....

                                      Isn't there some personal responsibility here? Who signed up for these loans? How much down payment did they make? Who said you needed a Home Equity line of credit to buy a bass boat, or a car, or a jet ski, or new furniture, or a Caribbean cruise, or designer shoes, or tuition at the most expensive college in the country?

                                      In the old days, when a person got in over their head, they bought a smaller house - not a bigger one with a goofy payment plan. They didn't max their credit cards - they wore the same clothes as last year.

                                      Too much credit has dug this country into a gigantic hole. The illusion of wealth fooled a lot of people into thinking that price didn't matter and they could buy anything they wanted as long as the payment fit the budget.

                                      I'm sorry for your troubles. I am not assuming you are a careless person. You got caught building at the peak of the market - which sadly often causes problems. The job market should improve in 12-18 months, so hopefully you can hang in there until then.

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                                        #12.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 4:17 PM EDT
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                                        {"commentId":6957725,"authorDomain":"stanhope123"}

                                        There is no good news. Every day it's something else going wrong, now the banks need billions more. I get more upset at the administration lying about how well things are going when you go to any town and see the numbers of American citizens being turned away from food banks and then to know that the politicans are padding their wallets even as we live through the worst economy of our lifetimes, the worst in American history. I realize fake it until you make it, but seeing the rich get richer and everyone else losing jobs, losing pay, it stinks. Nevada Govenor gave his personal staff raises but expects to furlough all the OTHER state employees. I don't understand why we don't have an Attorney General that files charges and makes the politicans that commit felonies like not paying their taxes go to jail, lose their benefits. This double standard has to stop. America is bleeding and the politicans keep up the bull. Get out and vote and make a difference if you really want this to change.

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                                        Reply#13 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:33 PM EDT
                                        {"commentId":6957943,"authorDomain":"pjthornton"}

                                        When comparing economic statistics past and present, there are only three possibilities : they are getting better, worse, or staying exactly the same. Every measure of the economy and economic activity I have seen lately is "less bad" then the last time it was released. That IS improvement and there is no doubt at all about it. That doesn't mean things are as good as they should be, not by a long shot, but it DOES mean they are better than they would have been otherwise.

                                        The bottom line is, we are at least headed in the direction of recovery, which is far better than the alternatives.

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                                        Reply#14 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:44 PM EDT
                                        {"commentId":6958624,"authorDomain":"sadielady"}

                                        I don't know where you get things are getting better. It might get better if Obama wouldn't spend like a kid in a candy store. He needs to get his hand out of the candy dish. We as a country can't afford all the money he plans on spending here and overseas to pay for the "worlds health care." Does he not get we are the ones who end up paying for all this? Why not just let us keep our own money instead of taxing the heck out of us. It's strange to me that he spent so much on his swearing in party. Then they turn around and spent 300,000 to get new pictures of The stand in Air Force One with a couple of military planes. I love the way we get to spend all this money to stroke his ego. Hey Mr. President don't you know people are hurting and losing their jobs why don't you act like you care. Sometimes you have to do what's best for our Country and not all the thing you are trying to force through Congress before anyone can eve read it.

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                                        #14.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:16 PM EDT
                                        {"commentId":6992959,"authorDomain":"crazybored"}

                                        "Less bad" than what they "estimated" has a certain smell about it.

                                        And if you care to check, almost all of the statistics quoted are readjusted the next month to something worse than originally reported.

                                        Three card monte and a shell game anyone?

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                                          #14.2 - Mon May 11, 2009 1:29 AM EDT
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                                          {"commentId":6957952,"authorDomain":"pj98gt"}

                                          From CNN article about how the stock market is being manipulated:

                                          "Euphoria returns! Who could have guessed that Bank of America stock would rally 70 percent the week it learns the Feds are demanding new capital equal to nearly half the bank's market capitalization?

                                          The ongoing grim news -- on rising unemployment, continued (albeit slower) economic decline, and ordinary working Americans being hammered on all sides -- is being ignored by stock and commodity markets. Is America now back on track for growth?

                                          The answer to that is almost surely no."

                                          If you see "positive signs" in the economic news you are either very naive or read nothing but the PR-spun headlines.

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                                          Reply#15 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:44 PM EDT
                                          {"commentId":6957974,"authorDomain":"gregjones"}

                                          It's all Political Smoke and Mirrors. Wait until the taxes hit to pay off the Obama debt. The recession will continue for years.

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                                            Reply#16 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:45 PM EDT
                                            {"commentId":6958250,"authorDomain":"pjthornton"}

                                            Less people applying for unemployment benefits. Housing starts increasing. Real estate prices stabilizing, even in the worst hit areas. Home sales up. Manufacturing inventories down. Stock market doing well, generally speaking. Banks not as bad off as many people thought. Credit starting to flow again. I'm telling you, it is ALL relatively good news these days. I'm not singing "Happy Days Are Here Again", I'm telling you things look better than they did 30 days ago. It doesn't mean you are now doing well. It means you're doing better than you would be if there HADN'T BEEN ANY IMPROVEMENT IN THE ECONOMY.

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                                            Reply#17 - Fri May 8, 2009 1:58 PM EDT
                                            {"commentId":6959071,"authorDomain":"crouchcc"}

                                            PJ:

                                            Very nice, this is the fourth article I've read like this today on four different subjects!! But also, on every one of those sites all I see is.......the GOP followers yelling that these results are skewed and nothin is getting better!! My 401K looks A LOT better than it did 3 months ago, what about you??

                                            Go ahead Pubs.....I know just give it another six months the bottom's going to fall out... I know, I know!!!

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                                            #17.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:39 PM EDT
                                            {"commentId":6961831,"authorDomain":"droessler"}

                                            Thanks for some sanity DC. It's true things are improving - slowly -

                                            1. One investment of mine that was down to $11,000 in February is now at $16,000. That's an improvement.
                                            2. the bank I use completed one mortgage in Q4 2008. The processors now have too many and are working overtime.
                                            3. The mortgage refis are giving people approx. $250-500/month lower payments, so more cash in the pocket.
                                            4. I am hiring for one new person in my department.
                                            5. Stumulus projects have started employment for thousands already...just this month.
                                            6. Unemployment benefits were extended so those laid off have income longer
                                            7. COBRA assistance is helping laid off people afford to continue healthcare insurance while they look for work
                                            8. Pell grants are increasing.
                                            9. Bank woes are subsiding and no further government funds are needed for now.
                                            10. People will be allowed to go to school while looking for a job and getting unemployment
                                            11. The auto industry is reorganizing with minimal intervention from the government, with some real prospects for all or parts of these companies to survive (it looked like they might all fall for a while there..)

                                            I understand why many are sad and disappointed....they believed in

                                            1. the fantasy they were fed by the past conservatives of paying no taxes but having a huge bloated miltary with multiple wars
                                            2. all our woes would be controlled by changing interest rates,
                                            3. everyone could have a new house - with no down paymenmt - and when payments rose - we could just continue to refi them away,
                                            4. we could borrow and live like kings while still making a low minimum wage,
                                            5. a new car every few years,
                                            6. credit cards with outrageous interest rates that never had to be paid off,
                                            7. overdraft protection that allowed spending more than what we have,
                                            8. education systems that did not teach our kids how to think - only to consume and conform.
                                            9. continued employment even though all the goods bought were low priced from overseas replacements for US companies

                                            It will be a tough slog getting people to embrace a more conservative financial lifestyle. But in the end, we will be fine, and hopefully some lessons will be learned.

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                                              #17.2 - Fri May 8, 2009 4:47 PM EDT
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                                              {"commentId":6958344,"authorDomain":"b-hummell"}

                                              I sympathize with Carolyn, Connie, and others.  Unfortunately we are a "Capitalistic" economy/society which is designed to protect businesses and the powerful & wealthy, not us "sheep" working class. Has been that way from the beginning and will never change. The best we can do is try to lift ourselves up and improve our own lives without depending on anyone else. I use my credit card less (saves interest) and don't care if Credit Card company makes less profit. They don't care about me, so I don't care about them. Stopped buying new cars too. Although saves me money, less profit for car maker. Again, I am only "profit" to them, so i really don't care about them either. The point is, do what is in your best interests because they will certainly do what's best for them. As far as Politicians, let's be honest, they care about us only at election time. The rest of the time we are the "sheep" to them and they protect their own interests first, not ours. Wasn't always this bad, but society changed. Most Politicians leave office far wealthier than when they started & wasn't because of the salary. It was the opportunities the office provided. Power= money which is what most of them care about the most. Cynical ? Is reality. All we can realistically expect is that some laws are passed to offer some regulation & consumer protection, but we will have to look out for ourselves for the most part. Good luck to you all thru this recession.

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                                                Reply#18 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:02 PM EDT
                                                {"commentId":6959023,"authorDomain":"golfmanj140"}

                                                the capitalists want to get things moving, its washington that is keeping this economy down. stocks are cheap, real estate is cheap. the banks will not lend right now, mainly because the government is trying to keep a grip on them. if banks are borrowing at 0% and lending at 5%, hell ya they can make money. but the government does these stress tests, and now wants them to boost capital? and they will not allow banks to repay TARP! that is why banks are not lending. and until that happens, we are going to be stuck in neutral, or slight reverse. it is turning into a game of tug of war. and why obama and his band of thieves want to keep things going like this, i have no idea. this economy would be rebounding right now, except for the fact that the government thinks they know how to run companies. i agree, that some of the idiots running the companies now are morons and do not deserve to havethe jobs they have, but obama is only experienced in organizing craft fairs, not running a multi-billion dollar company. i feel bad for bankers that are getting the wrath of this. remember: most of the bankers, not all of them, were playing by the rules, which are set by congress. of course congress will tell you that it was "rogue" bankers, but hey, if you were doing business per the rules in place, its not your fault. and we all know how some rules that congress writes and passes, are a little "vague" with plenty of shady areas. so when the media is going on a witch hunt for the people who caused this mess, why don't they just walk up to the capital building. this is where you would find them all. so next time you want to vilify a bankers or investor, just remember, he did not write these rules. problem is, they way congress writes these rules and laws, they do not even understand them.

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                                                  Reply#19 - Fri May 8, 2009 2:37 PM EDT
                                                  {"commentId":6959568,"authorDomain":"conferencearg"}

                                                  If to be rich means 7,000,000 people without a job....

                                                  If to be able to buy a cheap home means millions of people loosing their homes...

                                                  If to be able to buy cheap stoks means millions of people having lost millions...

                                                  If to make money and give dividends means millions of people without a job...

                                                  then capitalism does not work...It is just another word for slavery.

                                                  We should get benefits for paying our government to work for US.

                                                  Capitalism alone is not the answer when millions of people are hungry and destitute for it.

                                                  Today Capitalism has become another word for Feudalism.

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                                                    #19.1 - Fri May 8, 2009 3:03 PM EDT
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                                                    {"commentId":6959735,"authorDomain":"mightymouse1000"}

                                                    I suppor the new president, because he is doing exactly what any american family will do when we have an Ecomic crisis at home. We all get together and work hard with no recognition for a while..., until we get enough money to go back in our feet, but only if the family has a positive attitude, work together with great determination will survive any crisis in the family!!!

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                                                      Reply#20 - Fri May 8, 2009 3:11 PM EDT
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