What are the most irritating things you've seen a passenger do aboard a flight?
Sat in first class in same isle as Charlie Rangle and his HORRID grand son. Charlie is a worthless guardian, and his grandkid is a banshie.
I once sat next to a guy who took his shoes off during the flight..he had nasty smelling feet.. I switches seats immediately.. keep your shoes on folks!
i wonder how stinky you were and how messed up your breath was. stop whining, its a public facility not your house
I thing "fedup" needs a hug, preferably not from an evangelist.
Exactly fedup. It's not your house. Keep your shoes on.
What about two passengers who hit it off and talk non-stop without taking a breath in between!!! This is really annoying!
are you just whining coz nobody would ever hit it off with you? If you are that annoyed why not buy some noise reduction headphones? Its a public place don't expect it to be like your house (or cave)
I'm not advocating fedup's point but, it's in human nature to enjoy the company of others and can be extroardinarily helpful on a plane.
I suggest taking a flight with a good friend, it's amazing how time flies by!
Upset that no one's talking to YOU?
Frankly I think that all children under 5 should be forced to ride in cargo. I was in business the other day to Japan, a 13 hour flight, and some stupid baby in coach cried the whole time. Apparently these parents have never heard of cough syrup.
obviously you don't watch the news. Cough syrup is contraindicated for infants, (contraindicated means don't give it
. A plance is a public place moron.
They will escort parents and their crying infants out of a movie theatre, also a public place. So by default they should escort the infants and their parents off the plane, hopefully at 30k feet.
Wow...a woman who thinks it's ok to drug infants unnecessarily and potentially dangerously. Please do the rest of us a favor, take a couple dozen Valium and a fifth of Tequila and DON'T have kids. We don't want your gene pool contaminating the rest of us.
I gotta agree with Apples. In case of an emergency, which would be easier to deal with: a possessed child or a slightly sedated child.
a woman who thinks it's ok to drug infants unnecessarily
Not unnecessarily, but for parents who can't control their children/infants. Sometimes the children are actually worse then the infants. I was once on a flight there this 3 year old ran up and down the aisles without any supervision; then, when the plane was landing sat in the middle of the aisle until the flight attendant instructed the parents to collect their child and seat belt them in. In these and many other instances, parents should have the common decency to .. parent. If they cannot parent, well a drab of cough syrup won't kill them. Hell I'll volunteer my 5th of tequila to them too, for the cause.
As to why I don't have children.. I don't have time for them in my life right now. What an amazing concept, not having kids until you have adequate time and financial resources to provide for and teach them. Perhaps if others in your gene pool took my lead we'd have less immature, ill-behaved idiots walking the world.
Adults sometimes forget (or just don't know) that the pressure in a childs eardrum can be excruciating during a flight. It happens to adults but is 10X worse for children. Try to remember that when a young child cries during a flight. Thats not to say that there aren't terrible kids and parents flying but try to be patient with little kids. Its not their fault or their parents fault (in this case, probably not all cases).
And that is understandable for take-off and landings; but not for 14 straight hours.
You are such a pathetic moron. Why don't you haul your big ass into cargo? I bet you are butt ugly that nobody would ever want to have a kid with you. If you want so much privacy, buy your private plane. A plance is a public place moron.
Chillax, go2vidhu. You're suspended for a day for trolling up this whole thread and violating #1 of the Code of Honor. Another performance like this and it'll be a lot longer.
We were on a 5 hour flight with our one-year old who was behaving fine. A passenger a few rows back loudly complained about someone else's kids, including a remark that she "hates kids". At that moment, our son hurled his bottle across the aisle and bulls eye, splashed formula all over the whiner's glasses! He is now 21, and an excellent pitcher! :)
They should offer "children free" flights. Put the kids and their parents on one plane and provide another for just adults.
why not buy your own plane? oh wait... if you were that smart or rich you wouldn't be spinning out such stupid ideas
Otter, that is a silly thing to suggest. I hope you don't have any children because it will be unfair for them to have a parent like you. I wish there were "Idiot-free" flights so I never have to run into you. Get your own plane as suggested.
I do believe that some parents need to take better care of their children since that is their primary responsibility. No matter how tired you are, you need to make sure your kids do not cause others discomfort. With infants, speak to a doctor before you travel and you might get some helpful tips. I travelled my 4month old son and made sure he drank warm milk during take-over, landing and turbulence, it helps with the pressure in their ears and I chose a back seat so I won't be in anyone's way. We need to also help other passengers enjoy their flight.
go2vidhu,
Why must you be so negative with everyone's ideas? I haven't seen one comment out of you.
I love the people who need a wheelchair so they can board first, but somehow after 2 hours @ 30,000 feet they're cured - IT'S A MIRACLE!!!
The other thing I love is the parent that changes their kids diaper then rings the call bell and hands the dirty diaper to the flight attendent, or worse just leaves it in the seatback pocket. . . . . get up and get rid of it yourself
When you have an infant - it is not that easy to "just get up and get rid of it yourself." I agree that a parent should be prepared and have a ziploc bag to put the dirty diaper in, but please be realistic about the situation.
Being "Realistic" about the situation is being prepared. How horrid to hand off your baby's poop to someone else because your a "mother". Since when did being a "mother" become a disability?
When you have an infant - it is not that easy to "just get up and get rid of it yourself." I agree that a parent should be prepared and have a ziploc bag to put the dirty diaper in, but please be realistic about the situation.
What do you do at home, stuff the diaper in the seat of your couch? What about at a restraurant, do you hand the waitrer a dirty diaper inside a ziplock? There is a bathroom on the plane, you could simply get up and dispose of the diaper in the receptacle in the restroom.
"There is a bathroom on the plane, you could simply get up and dispose of the diaper in the receptacle in the restroom"
Not to mention that this is where they should be changing the babys diaper in the first place and not in their seat.
Uh... clearly you have never changed a diaper. Have you looked in a plane restroom lately? Where do you intend for parents to put a baby while changing them?
And Apples, since you don't have kids, kindly shut your trap when it comes to telling what others should or shouldn't do with theirs. You're just not qualified to say anything, since you clearly have no idea what it takes to raise a child.
Uh, since when does the act of having a child make you "qualified" for anything? I hate sitting in front of seat kicking little bratts who's parent(s) think it's cute. I like to spill my beer on them when I get up.
And Apples, since you don't have kids, kindly shut your trap when it comes to telling what others should or shouldn't do with theirs. You're just not qualified to say anything, since you clearly have no idea what it takes to raise a child.
Since it you clearly believe it's fine to stuff a dirty diaper in your couch and change your baby in public at the dinner table (why not since you can change it on a plane and leave the diaper) then you're absolutely correct- I know nothing about raising children. I always thought, apparently incorrectly, that handling feces in public is unsanitary and a health hazard; but go ahead and wipe that feces on your face and dance around the plane and see what happens. I sit in First Class, so I at least won't have to be in your vicinity.
Also, doesn't it take a village to raise a child? ;p
Flight attendants are horrible! Is it okay for them the be rude and demeaning to customers? I think they forget we are paying customers and should be treated with respect.
I agree: flight attendants are so terrified of passengers since 911 they treat everyone like an enemy, don't ask questions or state your on opinion: just jump when they say jump or they will call the captain: I witnessed a man totally embarassed and threatened with arrest for arguing with the attendant: He wasn't. I was going to defend him but i chickened out since I was afraid they would threaten me also. A disgrace. So if the attendant says jump, say how high?
While there are flight attendants who aren't the most personable people in the world, there are many of us who go out of our way to provide the best customer service possible to our passengers. I'd like to know what happened to common manners. I say hello to our passengers and 80% of them look at me like I'm crazy. "May I offer you a drink?" "Get me a Coke" is the response. What happened to PLEASE and THANK YOU??? If your child is over age 2, they must have their own seat. The also must wear their seatbelt for takeoff and landing and any other time the seatbelt sign is on. Sorry, but the fact that they don't want to, or they'll cry is not the issue. It it an FAA LAW. Would any responsible parent let a 2 year old bounce around in their car going 70 mph?? Why then would you let that same child bounce around in his seat in a seatbelt that is so loose he can slip right out of it when we are taking off at almost 230mph. In a rejected takeoff that child would be thrown about the aircraft and most likely be critically injured or dead. The same goes for landing. What are you thinking?? When the seatbelt sign is on, it's on for everyone and that means you!!! In April of this year a 42 year old lady got up to use the lav while the seatbelt sign was on. While in the lav the aircraft experienced a sudden bout of extreme turbulance. This lady was thrown up to the ceiling, broke her back and neck and will spend the rest of her life in a wheelchair. The seatbelt sign is on for a reason, not to make you suffer until you can get to a lav. The emergency row seating is not there for extra leg room. When you sit there, you are committing yourself to help in an emergency. There is a great possibility that in an emergency, depending upon what has happened, some/all of your flight attendants may be injured or even dead. That is the reality of the situation. It's now your responsibility to evacuate that aircraft and by the way, you have 90 seconds to get everyone off, less if there is already a fire. So, remember that the next time you tell the flight attendant giving you a special briefing that "you've heard all of this before." That may be, but did you really pay attention? Critical phase of flight is during takeoff and landing and under 10,000 feet. Try and stay awake during this time, you may have to react quickly. Don't drop your bag on my feet and tell me to "deal with it." It's your bag and I've already had shoulder surgery from lifting a overly heavy bag. I'll deal with it by putting it in cargo. We understand that you've had to jump through several hoops just to get to your seat. We also go through all the security screening every day. Regardless of what you may think, flight attendants are highly trained professionals. We are extensively trained in first aid and CPR. Having a heart attack, we are trained for that and have AEDs on board; diabetic shock, we have insulin on board; delivering you baby early, we're trained for that. We are trained in self defense using the same training used by Federal Air Marshalls. We can evacuate our aircraft in under 90 seconds regardless of the conditions, we've practiced in them all. Please try to remember this the next time you board an aircraft. We are not waitresses, porters or babysitters. Please afford us the respect we deserve, you just may need our expertise one day.
I fly hundreds of thousands of miles every year and I still say please and thank you when I order a drink/meal/etc, greet the FAs when I enter the plane and say thank you when I leave. Having seen things first hand, I agree that many customers have lost common courtesy.
That being said, there have been a number of examples lately in the media, and from first-hand experience, where the FAs and/or GAs (gate agents) have taken their new role to legislate to their head and have called the cops/security for people asking questions or showing their displeasure verbally. These people have not presented a safety concern, they are not terrorists; and, while I recognize that FAs have a rough job, I agree with the previous 2 posters here that they should not take THEIR frustrations out on already frustrated passangers. While you may be safety specialists and you may very well save one/all of us in an emergency sitation one day, we provide the money that keeps your airline operational and you with a job to be able to receive this training and provide these services. You are likely not one of the bad apples, but you need to acknowledge there ARE bad apple FAs who also have lost common courtesy, in the same way there are bad apple passangers.
To give an example of poor service. I recently boarded a flight out of Denver where we spent 2 hours on the tarmac waiting to be deiced, then after being de-iced, the pilot turned the plane around, went back to the gate, and said "FAs prepare for arrival." Not a word was said to the passangers. In fact, they opened the door and just walked out and let the passangers handle themselves. When we got back to the gate, the GA was shocked that all these passangers were getting off the plane, and he got on a bull horn to say that the flight was not cancelled- even though everyone thought it was- and to please stay in the waiting area. After another hour of waiting, they reboarded the flight. On my way back to my FC seat, I saw the captain speaking one the phone to his union representative. Apparently, from what I overheard, he was angry to have to be flying this flight after he came back since they were coming close to their hours and would likely go over if they went to DFW for the 2 hour flight. After reboarding and spending another 30 minutes on the plane, the FAs again evacuated the plane and for their only explanation said that the flight is now DELAYED until 6am (this was 7pm at this point). Again no real explaination. The passangers on this flight were the nicest I've ever seen, no one screamed or raved, they just disembarked and started making arragements for a hotel. I jumped on another flight because of my status, but also didn't say anything. However, this is an example where the FAs and pilots were rude idiots.
The thing with the pilots coming close to their hours is a federal thing. Pilots can only fly so many hours at a time and that is for your safety. Its not that they are trying to be jerks.
I did say in my opening sentence that there are less than accomodating FAs. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience in Denver. Inclement weather can certainly throw a monkey wrench in the system, country wide. What happens in other cities directly affects all cities. As the pilot above pointed out, the FAA dictates their flight hours. You may have just started your flight, but your crew may have already flown several flight hours before your flight. Coupled with a 2 hour delay for deicing probably put them very close to timing out before reaching your destination. The last thing you want is ice on your wings and tired pilots up front. That is for your safety. Does seem as if communication was lacking. Most pilots are very good about letting passengers know what's going on or at least advising the flight attendants so they can advise the passengers. Unfortunately this did not happen on your flight.
While I can't go into detail, when certain situations/actions happen on a flight under FAA regulations, security must be called. I agree some FAs and GAs misread some situations. While it is true that the price of your ticket (which let's face it is the lowest in years) does attribute to keeping airline companies in business. You obviously have an occupation or if not, there is a principle provider in your home. Whatever that occupation is, does my buying your product, regardless of the product's cost, entitle me to be rude and treat you with disrespect? I think not. Like I said before, most of my passengers are great. It's those few that can make a flight a nightmare, just as there are those few FAs and GAs that can make your flight a nightmare. It's a two-way street. Must pack and get ready for a nice long 4 day trip.
Yes sometimes flight attendants are rude because they have to deal with all the crap that the passengers dish them ALL day. They get fed up with rude people treating them as though they are servants on the airplane. If you have not read any of the posts, please do as it pretty much sums up only a small part of what they deal with. After 14 hours of dealing with people and their issues, problems and lack of being able to take responsibility for themselves most flight attendants are at the end of their patience rope. General public please shape up!!
I have seldom had problems with flight attendants, but on one particular flight, a very long one, a mother was on the plane with a 4 year old child. 2 hours into the flight, the restrooms in coach were occupied. The 4 year old (as 4 year olds do) had to go to the restroom "NOW!" The first class section had two empty bathrooms and 3 passengers total. But the flight attendant refused to allow the 4 year old access to the front restroom, and the child ended up having an accident in the aisle waiting for the rear restroom to become available. In normal circumstances, I would agree with the flight attendant, the first class passengers paid the higher fee for the secluded section, but there are times when courtesy and common sense should take precedence. One of the first class passengers complained to the flight supervisor and the staff at the gate about the flight attendant not allowing the child to use the front restroom.
FlyGirl:
You sound like a typical "Fly Hag"!
Logic speaker
That's a dumbass TSA rule.
Actually, new airline safety rules say that NO ONE can go from coach to first to use the restroom. If you think about it, you'll understand why. How did some of the 9/11 hijackers get to the captain's door? They walked from coach to first.
Annoying if there's a line for the bathroom? Yes. Should kids get priority? Definitely! But the rule isn't just there to keep the huddled masses from breaking free, there's an actual safety rationale.
I often feel sorry for the flight attendants. Their numbers have been cut so that there are fewer attendants per flight at the same time that airlines are decreasing the number of flights so as to fill all the seats. They're dealing with more people, and not only that, more crabby people who are crammed into uncomfortable seats and asked to pay for things that used to be free. The flight attendants have to spend a lot of time explaining over and over and over again that amenities such as blankets or pillows are no longer available. I can really understand why they get short sometimes. They're under a lot of pressure to get everything done quickly, they're understaffed, and they have to say "no" a lot.
You know what, many courteous people often feel sorry for the flight attendants, but you don't think other people are struggling with their jobs? Their numbers haven't been cut ~ they haven't been laid off or fired? It is happening all over the country and it is something we all are dealing with. It's unfortunate that they have to deal with some jerks, but what about us nice people? I have never once given anyone on board an aircraft a single problem. There is NO excuse for them getting short with people who have done nothing. If your job is too stressful than get a new one. What about people in the service industry who have to deal with those same jerks? The only difference is they get paid mainly on tips. I am not saying that flight attendants are only here for our service, but they are supposed to be there to help us out and at lease try to be friendly while doing it. I always used to get friendly FA's, but now with some of them just to get them to look at you is like pulling teeth.
Oh and FLYGIRL ~ whether the tickets are the lowest in years or not we are still paying for them. That is a pretty ignorant comment to make. Case and point proven. (Also keep in mind that many people are making less than they were due to the economy ~ so everything kind of evens itself out in most cases)
Agreed Chelle. I called in and reported a gate agent the other day for making snide remarks about me under her breath. The Executive customer service (since I'm an elite member with the airline) said, "obviously we'd love for each of our employees to perform their jobs with a smile, but we require that they at least perform their jobs with courtesy." That pretty much sums it up. You had a bad day, understandable, but you're still on the clock and expected to perform to your company standards. Do what the rest of us do after a bad day, go home and let it out there.
Item number 4 has me wondering. The term oversized to me indicates that the bag should not be in the cabin but checked and that the air carrier isn’t properly screening the bags. The weight is also a potential problem because if its over 50lbs. it should also be checked and tagged as an overweight bag, which again the carrier is not doing their job.
Too much bad behavior. I think it is because of our discourteous society. I have a hard time accepting this news story because it is ANONYMOUS. If you do not have the courage to stand-up and speak your mind with your name attached then what business do you have standing? And to gripe about someone under cover of anonymity while outing them by name is a new low (Sorry, Charlie Rangle however awful your kid was.)
Having said that. I am a fat guy. I fit in my seat but if it came to it and I could just not put the burger down then I should pay for 2 seats!! Shower before your get on the plane. How many times have we travellers heard "I am hoping they sleep all the way?" They won't, and it is your problem not everybody else's. Check your bags the whole process will move better. So you are 6ft4. sorry about that, if you need more room then pay for it. We all have our burdens and the seat back reclines at all but the exit row seats, perhaps you should shoot for the seats BEHIND the exit row, or maybe a bulkhead seat then you would not have to worry. Planning is part of the duties of those who travel. The resources are out there to learn how to move about the country. The rules of boarding and seating are not a mystery; look them up. Take charge of your affairs or shut-up.
I just want to get to my destination in one piece - no wayward geese or drunk pilots, thank you. I smile, realize that these people have probably had their fill of grouches, and I realize that these hours are a small percentage of my life. Bring a book, some good music and make the best of it!
Since when is it rude to recline your seat??? In spite of my leg room issues - I'm a tall woman with a 34" inseam, so my legs are longer than most men's - I would never dream of complaining because the person in front of me relclined to get comfortable. The worst flight I was ever on was when a tiny "lady" behind me got angry because I reclined my seat and in spite of claiming that she needed the room because she just had surgery proceeded to kick my seat repeatedly.
Carol - It is rude to recline your seat when food is served and I can't get my tray table down because your seat back leaves me no room. It is also rude when you fling your long hair over the seat back repeatedly-right into my food!
Most of the things talked about in these comments shows that we, as passengers or airline staff, have lost our common sense and our manners. Manners don't come already installed at birth and waiting until a child is a toddler to begin the teaching is a bit late. Babies/toddlers/children learn a great deal by watching how people around them behave and talk. Do they hear people (parents) screaming at home? Do they hear family members say "Please" and " Thank You" to each other and to others?
One person's Liberty ends where the next person's begins. Most folks are tired, frustrated, not looking forward to being packed into a metal tube for hours with conditions they can't control and ready to rip, snap and lash out at the nearest target. Get over it or book a first class seat-or try some other form of transportation. Parents-your kids are your responsibility-not the FAs or mine! If your haven't brought them up to respect you and others-don't bring them on a flight! Probably, your attitude towards others isn't too civilized either! Everybody-learn the rules, abide by them, listen to the people who have trained to take care of you. Airline folks-you put up with a lot! - but please try not to take your frustrations out on the rest of us. If the whole job is more of a war than a pleasure, maybe it's time to consider a different career.
When flying International....30 hrs. in the air..I recline my seat a little bit. But once from Seattle to Amsterdam a young exec wannabe came unglued!! My 6'5 companion turned around to the shrimp-jerk and asked if he had a problem with me. I am 5'2 and was not infringing on his space...and had to put up with his bragging about his position with some company for over 9 hours.....along with other passengers who should have duct-taped his mouth shut. On a plane with 300+ passengers ya have to give and take...learn to live with it.
On a flight from Tel Aviv to Rome, I had a woman sitting next to me who let her child cry the entire flight. When I asked her to please quiet her child, she not only refused to, but berated me for wanting her to interfere with her "perfect child."
Do me a favor and don't talk to me! I don't care where you are going, where you have been, or your life in general. End of discussion!
Let me guess... Fat, ugly and sweaty!
Hawaiian
The only reason you are here is to make rude comments. Stop it!
Item 4 is really unfair. I'm too short to reach the overhead bins. And it's embarassing evey time the stewardess makes a fuss over having to do it for me.
Then check your bags, sweetpea. You should be embarrassed.
The flight staff has a number of jobs to do and stowing your luggage is not one of them. Plus, you hold up the whole boarding process while you act all helpless and "poor little me".
The only thing unfair here is your warped sense on entitlement!
And, no, I don't work for an airline and find many flight attendants angry, cranky and downright scary.
But in this case, you're wrong. Passengers like you are part of what makes flying such an unpleasant experience. Again, check your bags.
Then check your bags, sweetpea. You should be embarrassed.
This would make sense except now they charge some people to check bags. Making her check a bag, and pay an extra fee, simply because she lacks height seems discriminatory to me. Instead, she should board at the end or have the courtesy to step into her row while waiting for assistance. Also, asking passangers for assistance nicely is usually an easy way to get something done. I fly all around Asia and oftentimes being the only tall woman, I assist the shorter passangers and shorter crew with getting bags into the overhead compartment.
If you're that short, then you shouldn't have any problem putting your carry-on under the seat in front of you. Won't fit? Check it or pack a smaller bag.
You shouldn't feel bad at all for having to be helped with your bag. You have just as much right as anyone else to be in possession of a carry-on. The planes are made for the middle 95% height measurements, and just because you don't fall into that category is no reason for you to go without a bag. It seems only right that you should be able to ask for such a small favor from the flight attendent. If they make a big deal out of it, that's there problem. As long as you ask them politely, they have no reason to be rude when asked to do their job.
Quizlover, my well meanig but misguided dear, it is not in any way shape or form a flight attendant's job to lift passenger luggage into the overhead bin. We are not being rude by refusing to lift your luggage-and trust me, you are the millionth person that day to ask us to do so. The simple truth is that we are not covered for injuries incurred while lifting passenger luggage-it is not considered an injury on duty. Do you know how many of us have had back/shoulder/neck injuries from assisting passengers with luggage? Thousands. Our company instructs us only to "assist", and I am happy to do so when it's justified-for instance you are elderly, injured, short (at 5'2' I understand it's not easy, yet I lift my own luggage every time I go to work). The bottom line is, you are an adult. Your luggage is YOUR responsibility, not mine. If you packed it and bring it on as a carry on you must be able to lift it into the overhead bin, and if you are not able to do so you must check it. The flying public seems to have developed a lack of personal responsibilty and manners. For instance: you arrive too late at the airport to have time to get something to eat or have not brought something from home, like we have to do-and then scream at us for not having a meal for you inflight. (Jeez I haven't seen a meal in coach for years) Pouting when I tell you we don't have pillows or magazines because we took them off the aircraft 6 years ago to save money so we didn't go bankrupt. The diabetic man I had on last week who didn't have food with him which meant I gave him the meal I'd purchased for myself. The parents who ask us for diapers and baby food because they didn't think to bring any, or ask us to watch their child while they nap. (yes it happened to me) The passengers who yell at us for weather delays-like we control the weather or the aircraft!! Or they're mad we've run out of coke/sprite/oj-whatever. It happens. There are a finite number of supplies on the jet. The flight attendants do not make the decisions as to how much of or what type of catering items are put on the aircraft. We just serve what we have.
Here's the thing, people. We are all working with a lot less pay, much longer hours and a lot less sleep. Most of my days are 14 hours-4 flights-and we get about 9 hours in the hotel room. We have weather delays, inflight medical situations, mechanicals, screaming children, atc holds, etc, day after day after day, whereas for you it may only happen a few times a year. And just like you we have families and children and lives of our own off of the airplane. Add nasty, abusive passengers who treat us like servants and think nothing of screaming at, threatening, harassing or actually assaulting us day in and day out. And all of the time we are wondering if this day might be another 9/11. If may have faded from your everday memory, but not from ours. We are trained to be aware every moment we are at work that there may be someone around us who is going to try to kill us and you. So yes, we might get exasperated when you keep coming towards the cockpit door when we have it open to feed the cockpit crew even though we're telling you to back away or use the lavatory in your cabin . Or you give us attitude when we tell you to turn off your electronic device for the 10th time. Or have to repeatedly ask you to fasten your seatbelt or put your seatback up because you did not listen to/ignored the safety demo. And get a blank stare when we ask if you'd like a beverage because you were too rude to take out your earplugs the first 3 times we asked you. We're just doing our jobs, people. If you are courteous and respectful to us we will go out of our way to do the same for you. And if you're rude and crappy to me I'll try not to take it personally and understand I don't know what going on in your day and I'll cut you a break. For as long as I can.
I hate to say it, but I think it is time for a job change for you. I understand you put up with a bunch of jerks, but wow!! You are apparently not happy with your job and the stress you are putting on yourself and probably others isn't going to do anyone any good.
My pet peeve is the young guy who can't possibly live without his Ipod for 10 minutes. You're allowed to turn it on again about 3 minutes after takeoff, but you simply MUST listen to Blink 182 during takeoff, despite the fact that you can't hear it over the roar of the engines. Who cares if it jams the signal from the tower & we all crash?
An iPod does not emit an RF signal, and FCC tests have shown time and time again that cell phones, wifi equipment, etc does not interfere AT ALL with cockpit equipment. Heck certain airlines want to install wifi on their aircraft! But the FAA still wants to disallow cell phones for courtesy reasons... who wants to listen to everyone's cell conversation for 4 hours? That said, again...ipods emit no RF signals. It is a media player. You are obviously not in any kind of tech field, and that is ok. Just know that they do not emit any signal, and certainly cannot jam cockpit/tower signals. All consumer devices are engineered to not produce interference, and must accept any interference they receive. The "turn it off until safe altitudes" is not a law, its just a rule. They want to make sure everyone hears the announcements, and everything is smooth before giving people permission to watch movies, listen to music. You never know what could happen below 10K ft that you'd miss if listening to music, watching a movie.
If I want to recline my seat, that's my perogative. I can't help it if you're too big for your seat, I have a right to be as comfortable as I can too. I personally hate sitting next to non-stop yappers. I don't care who you are, where you are going, DON'T want to look at your pictures, or listen to your IPod. Flying is bad enough without being annoyed by strangers.
Anyone complaining about children crying during air travel obviously does not have kids of their own. If you don't have kids: SHUT UP about it. You have no idea what's it like trying to fly with them. Until you walk a mile in a mother's shoes: SHUT THE HELL UP.
That said, I just want to get where I'm going alive, thank you. Nickel and dime me, lose my luggage, be rude to me, strip search me--I don't care. If it helps get me to my destination in one piece, have at it.
Well, maybe they shouldn't fly with them then. If they have so much trouble with their kids, maybe they should just hop in their car and take a road trip instead.
Agreed Ivanhoe.
Mrshorts. I've been on flights where children are very well behaved, so it can be done. Perhaps you should take advice on parenting from those people before boarding a plane and maybe you'd find your own flying experience with kids more enjoyable and not the hell you have made it out to be. Imagine the hell of the other customers who don't know/love your children, if you find flying with them so obviously painful.
Just keep your brats under control.
Yes, but the kids are YOUR problem. *I* didn't choose to have them. *I* don't want them.
Other parents CONTROL their children. I understand about screaming babies (their ears hurt, they can't help it; that's why I have sound-deadening earphones) but the out of control, very loud 4 year olds running up and down the aisle, talking loudly, kicking the seat in front of them, playing with their loud "talking" toys---YOU can control that. If you can't, perhaps you need to take Ivanhoe's advice and take a nice road trip instead. I've been on flights where Mom and Dad were both there, oblivious, while their children wreaked havoc with the entire plane--and the FA's were having to try to corral the kids.
I say again: YOUR children are YOUR responsibility. *I* didn't sign up to raise your kids, and if I said something to one of them, you'd think I was a child abuser.
I have been flying with my kids since they were a year old crossing the pac ocean four times, every year. Fortunately for me, the kids slept most of the way and were entertained by story or colouring books. As they grew older they would play games or watch movies on the inflight entertainment on demand. I must admit, I have met my share of stinky passenger, talkative passenger, crying children, ignorant parents, rude parents who let their kids get into trouble. There has only been one instance when a Korean Air Steward was beyond rude to all and every who had the misfortune to ask for an extra drink or made some other request. In my experience with most airlines including domestic flights, I have no complaints whatsoever with the air crew.
To all the air crew, thank you for making my kids' and my flights with you a great experience.
Lady travelers: PLEASE put on your perfume AFTER you leave the plane. Don't gag me with those smells in a closed environment.
Oh, then there are those who incessently shuffle cards for hours on end.
These posts represent what is wrong with American society. It can be turned around and said that those that are whining about kids being on planes are those that have a sense of entitlement. Kids are an important part of society. They are the future of society and society should expect that they will need to travel once in a while. Further, they are not fully developed adults. Has no-one ever felt joy at a kid (a niece, a grandchild) visiting them? Just be tolerant, people! A world full of adults, and the human race dies out.
Congrats, Dad/Granddad: you've managed to do what the birds and the bees, the flowers and the trees, and the alley cats do: reproduce. That's just great.
The fact that you've been able to do that does not mean your precious child should be allowed to run wild on an airplane. They are two different things.
One horror story (of many): I was on a business trip, one-day up-and-back. I was in a suit and had enough time to make my appointment after the plane landed, but not a lot of extra sitting-around time. Someone's "precious" 4 year old, running in the aisle, screaming, not looking where they were going, ran into the FA just as she was handing the pax next to me a beer (which she had poured into the glass for him). Beer all over me, my suit, my tie, my shirt, my pants; the FA could have been injured if she hadn't released the beer to catch herself on the cart. Apologies from the FA (though she didn't do anything wrong), but of course, nothing from the RUDE PARENTS who allowed their child to run around inside the plane like it was a playground (this had gone on the entire flight, including delaying takeoff because the precious darlings didn't want to be strapped in for takeoff and the FA's had to get it done.
Suit, shirt could be cleaned; tie ruined, and I went to a very important business meeting smelling like a brewery. There were other children on the flight, but they were well behaved.
It's people like you, sir, who let their children run around and disrupt life for the rest of us (these same kids grow up to be rude on airplanes, because they've not been taught how to behave in polite society).
I have to agree with Malvie.
Here's an idea, FA should flag parents who do not control their children during a flight; after being flagged, the airline should charge an additional fee to that parent for failure to act like a parent and control their children.
I've seen this on a recent trip to Europe; the couple just let their child run up and down the aisle bothering other passengers.
Oh and just FYI: When I was a child flying overseas; my mother would displine when I acted out.
My mother did the same John.
I always hated flying next to an infant or toddler. And then I had a child and I realized that the only thing worse than flying next to a screaming child, was being the parent responsible for controlling the screaming infant/toddler. It is definitely not easy and drugging them is not the answer. I do prepare for the trip, and always have candy, toys, the dvd player, etc, but it doesn't always work. I wouldn't mind if parents and kids were grouped together, even at the back of the plane, and separated from other passengers flying without children. Sometimes being around other children can actually help the situation. But don't be too critical, especially if you see that the parent is actually trying to control the situation.
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how about the kids who kick the back of your seat while mom reads a magazine oblivious to it all..